That's why we, that's why we have these.

Mhm.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Mhm.

Yeah.

If you just evaluate what we have right now, there is probably almost as much surveillance going on in the U.

S.

In England and London then it is as it is in china in America or the west.

We have a lot of citizens saying let's not do that in china.

They don't have that.

There is a possibility.

I believe that surveillance is inevitable in all the countries.

Japan, even in Japan china us we're gonna have more surveillance quantified self and the cameras.

V.

R.

A.

R requires us to monitor everything.

We do, we're going to have that.

And the question is can we do it in a way.

Mhm.

That feels good that people are comfortable with.

That doesn't feel like you're invading my privacy.

I'm giving you this information voluntarily because I'm beginning some benefits all these kinds of things.

And the question is it may be that China may actually discover how to do that before the U.

S.

Does.

So the way I would call it like they domesticate.

Are they civilized surveillance?

What's called civilized surveillance Or domesticated surveillance or or harmonious surveillance or something where basically as volunteer surveillance And so it's possible actually will happen.

And it was 10 culture.

Do you think people will accept if you had asked 50 years ago in America where the people would accept the amount of surveillance that we have now today?

They would say no way.

But we accept it.

Why do we accept it accept it?

Because we get benefits from it.

Get benefits becoming safer in the society and safe get netflix tells you what you're going to what you should watch next amazon can tell you the better thing to buy because they're looking at your buying habits.

Mm um You get updates among your friends.

I mean so we get benefits.

That's why we that's why we have these and we accept these to a degree that 50 years ago.

Nobody would believe that we would accept it.

So yes, I think it's possible and plausible that we could have even more surveillance and that maybe the chinese to figure out first how to do this.

They are kind of advanced actually if it's really different fast and they advanced and actually comfortable and safe and useful for the human being.

Maybe I think it's just the conception of kind of the freedom of individuals and uh based on the Western values of individuals are really maybe the starting about that progress in the society.

Even some countries like china or some countries, even with dictators, who knows a lot about technologies that really will make it easier for such a harmonized surveillance country countries and maybe the countries whose sharing about the value of Western individuals will be maybe becoming being laid.

It's possible, mm.

So that's a big contradiction.

And I'm not sure where Japan is positioned between that we are quite always between something.

Mhm.

Mhm.

Yeah, Yeah.