Name: Dan Abrams: MAGA is never going to get the Epstein answers they want
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If you wanted to stop people from talking about these Epstein files, Trump blaming it on his political enemies, claiming that it's boring, there's nothing to see here, and then Pam Bondi just trying to dodge it, none of that would make all of this go away.

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I mean, look, they're not helping themselves, but let's be fair, they're being asked about it again and again and again and again.

And that's understandable, right, considering all the circumstances here.

But I don't think no matter what happens here, they're ever going to get, the MAGA base that wants this, is ever going to get the answers they want, right?

They want names and they want a client list, right?

The black book is the list of the victims.

We know he had a black book and it was a black book of the victims, okay?

Then you want to talk about another list.

There's friends of Jeffrey Epstein's, there's associates, there are flight logs.

The problem with that is Donald Trump is on the flight logs.

It doesn't mean he did anything wrong, but the reality is if you want to say, I want to see every flight log, we know Donald Trump was flying with his kids, his infant at one point from Teterboro, New Jersey to Florida on Jeffrey Epstein's plane.

That's not helpful to Donald Trump politically.

And as a result, if they're going to demand that everything connected with Epstein be released, it will include some stuff about Donald Trump.

But you don't know that because first of all, we don't know what the victim testimony is.

The part that I don't understand is Ghislaine Maxwell is sitting in prison right now for trafficking women, young girls, excuse me, that were not women.

Did she just traffic them to Epstein or did she traffic, or did she traffic them to other people?

Let's not pretend we don't know anything about the case.

We know about the civil cases against her.

Well, first of all, what was redacted is what we need to know.

We certainly don't know what some of these girls had to say about who they potentially slept with.

And we don't actually, because we don't know if there's video of this.

This is like saying like, oh, you know, there might be this and there might be that.  We don't know.

There might be, but there's no evidence of this.

The point that Dan is making, the underlying point that Dan is making is that the secrecy is to protect Trump.

So you think that the 200 young girls who testified, who, in Florida, for example, in Florida it was 200 victims or survivors.

You don't think that those young girls slept with men?

You don't think that those men were doing incredibly bad, wrong things to them?

So there must have been multiple assailants, right?

The ones who have spoken out have talked about the people involved.

How do we know that there were not, I think this is the whole point, right?

The whole point is people want to know if there were other people.

If the files substantiate what you're saying, that there are not other people, that's what people want to know.

And here's where Nikki Haley weighed in on this.

She says, release the Epstein files, this is Nikki Haley, and let the chips fall where they may.

This is why people don't trust government.

You can never go wrong with being transparent, redact the victim's names, but release the rest.

I mean, Scott, this is the right that the deep state, they don't trust the government, they don't trust the people at the FBI and whatever.

And they thought that when Trump got into office, he would address that by just releasing what can be released, let the chips fall where they may, and he's not doing it.

Well, today, I heard him say, anything credible, sure, let's release it.

Now, the question is, what can the attorney general release and what is not releasable?

It's opaque to me, what they have and then what falls into those two buckets.

Number two, it looked to me like today the president was sending a signal, like, okay, fine.

If there's something that's releasable and it's credible and it doesn't hurt any survivors and it doesn't implicate people on second and third order hearsay.

The attorney general doesn't want to release any of it at all.

But that to me is part of the challenge, to be honest, and I know this doesn't follow the echo chambers of, you know, cable news, but quite honestly, the people who believe in Pizzagate are not only driving what our government focuses on, but what legacy media focuses on.

I've seen the breaking news banner all day about the Epstein files, this Epstein files that.

And if we are so focused on sexual abuse, I just think the whole reason this became a big deal is because people, his base thought the Clintons were involved.

And the tofu that it actually is right now, that Pam Bondi is like, oh, never mind, let's everybody move on.

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