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Hello everyone, I want to talk to you about a video the New York Times released called inside China's predatory healthcare system
In it the New York Times makes several claims about the state of health care in China
The video was edited to elicit maximum fear worry and anxiety
There's also an accompanying article which has much more information. My name is Nathan Ridge
I'm an American living in China as such
I have a unique perspective on stories like these because even though my life is in China now
I still remember what it's like to live in America and not know much about the real China other than what the media outlets say
I've been to over a dozen hospitals in China
I've had dental work LASIK and even surgeries in both countries
I have been insured and uninsured I've waited in lines
Pay fees talk to doctors and nurses and have spent many nights by hospital beds here
I've seen real problems in China's health care system and in America's but this video was actually a shock to me when
I saw inside China's predatory health care system for the first time a wave of emotions washed over me
First and foremost I was depressed and sad for the woman dying from cancer
But even the first time I saw the video I could tell that something wasn't quite right
Before I go any further
I want to let you know that I was an only child of a single parent my mother and she passed away from cancer in
2010 so this issue is very important to me
Cancer is a heartbreaking life shattering disease that needs a cure
But to find a cure we need to be honest about the situation from all angles
So let's talk about the lady who died from cancer in this film in
2011 a 68 year old former school teacher was diagnosed with serious lung cancer at the time
Her son was making what the New York Times called decent money at a pharmaceutical company
Over the next three years she got surgery took traditional Chinese medicines and underwent biotherapy
The doctors recommended chemotherapy, but she turned it down because she felt she was too old
They also recommended radiation therapy, which she also turned down
So her doctor prescribed her IRISA a lung cancer drug
She bought and took a rest for nine months after which the drug was no longer effective
2015 after all these treatments hadn't quashed the cancer her son quit his decent-paying job and moved in with her and her husband to help
In any way he could for two years her son made her traditional Chinese medicines and various cancer drugs from recipes
He found on the internet
He was determined to help his mother live as long as she could my mother died in America
Only two weeks after her cancer diagnosis, so I know what it's like to not have enough time in
2017 the New York Times interviewed the family and began working on their story
surgery traditional Chinese medicine biotherapy
ERISA and the various drugs her son made weren't able to beat the cancer though
She did live for six long years after being diagnosed. Sadly. She passed away at 75 years old
That's her story one of struggle and perseverance
She beat the odds and lived longer than most. But ultimately it was just her time to leave us
But now, let's take a look at how the New York Times chose to honor her memory in inside China's predatory health care system
First it's an introduction of her son. Take a look
- June earns $300 a month
we see her son now and all they tell us about him so far is he's making drugs and he only makes
$300 a month which is minimum wage where he lives
So he quit his decent paying job to take a minimum wage bang job and spend time with his mother that's his choice
But notice that they left that part out the tone is already set
Let's find out what he's doing. The medicine needed to treat his sick mother cost 2,000. He's making W
Z400 - it hasn't been approved by Chinese or American regulators
The drug isn't approved in America or China
So either he can source at himself or he can't get it exactly like in America can a man making minimum wage in America?
Afford to treat stage 3 lung cancer. I mean just look at these news articles about the medical in America
This is the number one reason Americans filed for bankruptcy is for medical bills
Many cancer patients must face bankruptcy or die or how about this one?
42 percent of new cancer patients lose their entire life savings
By the way in this article, it says the average amount lost is 92 thousand dollars
These people have normal jobs and are facing bankruptcy and death
How do you think that would work out for someone on minimum wage in America?
So as hard as it is to confront people not being able to afford cancer drugs. It's not a China specific issue
Remember how I said when I first watched this video I could just tell something was wrong
This is a clip of him saying until now we have used these seven drugs
But look at how the New York Times has translated it
We have made these seven drugs a slight but important difference
He's not saying that he made all those drugs. He's saying that she has taken those drugs
We know for example that
They didn't make the Iressa that she took so why are they altering what he said to suggest that he made all of them?
Well to make you think that they never bought me
So now with only this information about her son the video moves on to the narration based section the New York Times makes several
Large claims and then they rely on editing intense music sound effects misinformation and lies to make their case
But don't take my word for it. Let's investigate this together. It's a symptom of a health care system in crisis
so far
the only thing we've seen is a man trying desperately to save his mother during the last months of her life after a long and
horrible battle with cancer
She's received many treatments and now is a last-ditch effort. He's trying anything he can he's making medicine that isn't approved in China or America
So if he were in America, what would be different to me? That sounds like a cancer crisis in the world?
Not a Chinese crisis the introduction of capitalism
and the retreive of the state meant that healthcare was no longer free
hospitals became profit driven weirdly
They are suggesting that hospitals in China are all profit driven and somehow that's the reason for this yet to be revealed crisis
In this video only one hospital is mentioned and that hospital like virtually all major hospitals in China is public
The government sets the prices and the aim of the medical staff in those hospitals is the same as anywhere else
to treat patients
Private hospitals of China aren't the same as they are in America
in fact, all the private hospitals combined make less than 10% the revenue that public hospitals do
The vast majority of private hospitals in China have less than a hundred beds and only a 40% occupancy rate
While the largest public hospitals can treat well over
20,000 people in one single day
Are you getting the picture people in trying to go to public hospitals because here in a socialist country?
They are the best. So how is this caused by for-profit hospitals again? And
China's already committed to moving hospitals to be completely nonprofit by next year
What is America doing about the profit as medical companies are driven by and also?
does it seem a little weird to anybody else to hear an American newspaper complaining about capitalism in another country a
culture of mistrust and inequality now plague the system by this time in the video
I was starting to realize that people who made it didn't really understand China very well
Chinese people trust hospitals and their doctors much more than Americans do
This is something you would be able to observe within a month of living here. It's culturally different than America
Right now we have a friend who's coming back from New Zealand to China to do some very minor procedures. Why?
Because she trusts the doctors here
You should also notice that in this video
Not one person says anything about not trusting hospitals or doctors except for the New York Times
They say there's a culture of mistrust and they show you absolutely no evidence of it at all about 100
gathering online in downtown Shanghai is the entrance to the Shanghai Cancer Center unlike an America in
China prices for the best hospitals are similar to ordinary hospitals
And when Chinese people get sick, they want to go to the best hospitals available. This is why there are lines at the best hospitals
America's solution to this is charge so much more money at these hospitals that only the rich can afford them. Why would that be better?
so if you've got one of the top cancer hospitals in the country priced based on cost rather than on profits and
You've got a culture where people want to see the best doctors possible. You're gonna have a very busy Hospital
That's a good thing people are getting treatment at one of the top cancer hospitals. They can afford it. They are there
Imagine how much better off America would be if enough people can afford the best cancer hospitals for their to be lions
I mean really think about that
If you thought the earlier convenient mistranslation was an accident you're going to be disappointed
Nearly everything a Chinese person says in this video is mistranslated and every one of those
Mistranslations just happens to support the New York Times narrative
I wonder what are the statistical odds that every single translation just happens to support their case
Accidentally, so this guy's only said two things and they altered both of them first
He said they've spent forty three thousand dollars on his wife's cancer treatment
He makes no indication whatsoever
That any of this money was spent at this particular Hospital or over any amount of time
Yet when we see the New York Times translation
It is clearly saying that he has spent the money here
The idea obviously is to make it seem like this is a very expensive hospital
It isn't
Let's compare what these people are paying for a top cancer hospital in China to the prices at the top cancer hospital in America
the people in this big scary line are paying about
five or seven dollars for a consultation with a specialist or an expert if they're uninsured if they have insurance like
95% of Chinese people do then they're paying nothing. I
Literally just searched for top cancer hospital in America
Here's the first one. It's called the MD Anderson
Cancer Center how much do you think would cost for the same consultation with one doctor once did you guess?
$40,000 because if you did you're right it costs
$40,000 to talk to one doctor one time if you have no insurance, if you do have insurance it costs you only
So, let's see what else this guy says
It's the second sentences mistranslation that takes the cake didn't know there was a second sentence
That's because they showed him saying it and didn't bother to translate it for you
They didn't think his second sentence needed to be understood. What was that sentence? Let's take a listen
He said my wife got a cold
he seems to be indicating that he's standing in line to get a number for his wife to come to the hospital because she has
a common cold now
She does have cancer but Chinese people go to the hospital for a cold stubbed toes and anything else you could think of
The real question here is why wouldn't the New York Times want you to understand him say he was bringing his wife to the hospital
Because she had a cold
Your chance of seeing a doctor here
It's directly related to how big your wallet is the narration continues with this ridiculously over-the-top nonsense
they are implying quite directly that these people are waiting outside because they don't have any money and if only they had more money they
Could be seen without the wait
Take a moment to picture yourself going to a top Cancer Hospital in America
Outside you find a line of people waiting to go in do you think yourself my god?
If only these people had money they wouldn't be in mine
Of course not so why does it seem so easy to think that here? Well, I'll tell you what, it's the nature of misinformation
Because the New York Times has spent so much of this video harping on about lions outside a top cancer Hospital
We compiled a list of ways. These people can see a doctor at that hospital. Are you ready for this?
You can wait in line. If you want to you can use the hospital's official WeChat account to book an appointment at no additional cost
If you don't know what we chat is I wrote an article about it for medium. But basically it's a chat application and more
or you can use this website and app to book an appointment at no additional cost or
You can use this website and app to the book an appointment again at no additional cost
In fact, they have additional features on top of just booking an appointment
Sometimes you can get free consultations
They have videoconference options where you can sit with your doctor in your province and do a three-way conference call with one of the top
specialists which costs
$120 they have a 24 hour telephone service for one-to-one consultations with one of the specialists
Which is $15.00 for 10 minutes
Or you can even pay $30 to have a two day
Unlimited chat conversations with other specialists including sending them images and having them consult with you
We found at least five other websites and apps that allow you to book appointments with this hospital at no additional cost
If you have an appointment, by the way
You don't have to wait in this big scary line that they keep showing us again and again and again you can just walk in
When they open and give them your number
if you want an appointment with one of the top experts you can just call the
Hospital and set up an appointment again at no additional cost hell
You can even call China Unicom the ISP similar to Time Warner Cable and set up an appointment at this hospital with them
You might be thinking
These people are old maybe they don't have internet access or no all the numbers all these places or whatever
If they're not able to see a doctor that day
All they have to do is walk over to an appointment kiosk
Inside and get a number for the next day then they don't have to wait in this line anymore
In fact, they don't even need to wait in the line
The first time all they have to do is walk into the hospital at any time
Go to an appointment kiosk and get a number for the next day
Then they don't need to wait in this big scary crisis line at all in in rural areas
So this lady has proved the point I made before
People seek out the best
Hospital they can when they have serious illnesses
Wouldn't you this video is making it seem like these people were forced to walk like refugees across
Thousands of kilometers because there aren't enough hospitals. That's just not the case
In fact, there are more hospitals per person in China than there are in America in
America there's one hospital for every
52,000 people pretty good, right well in China, there's one hospital for every
44,000 people that's almost a 20 percent difference
So why are they suggesting that there aren't enough hospitals do they think that the hospitals are too small? Is that it wrong again?
the two largest hospitals in America have about 2,500 beds in
China the two largest hospitals both have over 10,000 beds
Let me put it to you another way. The largest hospital in America wouldn't even be on the top
100 largest hospitals in China. Are you getting the picture now?
So what are they even talking about?
They're making it seem like these people have no options for hospitals when in fact
They have more options than Americans. Do this video is getting really frustrating
Unfortunately, the lies and misleading information has only just begun you get cancer and live in an area without an oncologist you could be in
trouble in what country are you not in trouble if you get cancer in an area without an oncologist you
Go to a hospital that has one just like any other country in the world
This video is a bunch of people from different provinces going to this province
Which isn't where their hookahs are to see doctors because they chose to go to the best Hospital. Is anyone else seeing this?
For this next part I want to take the time to explain to you how seeing a doctor works in China
Because the New York Times didn't want you to know and it's actually relevant in
China people generally seek out one of two types of doctors
specialists and experts
specialists has the same meaning as it does in the West a doctor who specializes in a certain area and
Experts are those specialists who have outstanding credentials beyond their peers
Without insurance to see a specialist at this hospital costs $5 and to see an expert it costs $7
If you have an emergency, or you have special needs you can pay
$43 to see an expert in another line, which is sometimes shorter
but no matter who you want to see you never have to wait outside if you make an appointment and if you don't make an
Appointment rich or not. You have to wait in line
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So now we're listening to this lady complain about how the wealthy people get to cut in line
What they're intentionally not telling you in this translation is what she's actually referring to
She's talking about the special needs line. Which again costs
$43 without insurance to see an expert rather than the $7.00 it normally takes
Even if she was wealthy enough to afford an additional thirty four dollars
She would still wait in line because she didn't make an appointment just a smaller line
does it bother anyone else that the New York Times didn't even try to
Understand what these people were talking about before they just wrote the scariest sounding
interpretation possible and then moved on but of course this lady is just
Complaining about waiting in line because she doesn't want to pay for the additional service of seeing a top expert
Rather than just specialist. Also keep in mind that this entire time. None of these people have to wait in this line at all
They just want to see a specialist right now without an appointment
But the way that this video represents the line suggests that these people had no choice but to be in it
So far in this video
We could have chalked most of these things up to just a bunch of incompetence on the part of the New York Times
But here's where that starts to change
From this point on nearly every single thing in the video is so skewed biased and intentionally misleading that I had to pick and choose
Which things to talk about for fear of the video being played too long?
Let's take a look at how far the New York Times will go to make a story where one doesn't exist
Even is a children not using cheating. Hey you good luck here
We have a lady in line saying that there is supposed to be to thyroid experts today
But one cancel the next thing she says is so how many tickets can he get through?
She's asking a question. How many people can this one specialist see today? She doesn't know
Maybe after the audio cuts off she guesses at 7 or 8
But why is the New York Times?
depending on a random lady in line to guess about how many people a doctor sees in a day where are all the doctors and
hospital staff in this video by the way
Take a look at what the New York Times translation says about this lady in line
Wondering how many people a specialist sees in a day?
Those are not good odds, but even worse they aren't unusual
She is asking how many people one by roid expert can see in a day. She has no idea because she doesn't work there
She's a patient
The New York Times is answering for her and us without telling anyone about it
So why is it that they want you to think a specialist could only see seven or eight people in a day?
Well, because then it would really seem like these people outside won't get to see a doctor. That's why
Do you think that that hospital is overwhelmed by a couple hundred people who showed up early?
Then you don't understand China at all that hospital has over 2,000 medical staff working at it over five hundred of which are doctors
Why is there no mention of this at all?
This line could be much larger. The hospital wouldn't even have much of an issue at all. They do about
3,500 outpatient and emergency visits not per month like this videos trying to portray per day
There are nearly 7,000 people for general practitioner in China to put this number in perspective the World Health Organization's international
Standard is one doctor for every 1,500 to 2,000 people
There is no universally agreed-upon standard for the general practitioners to people ratio
There have been numerous studies and suggestions about the proper ratio
But for the sake of moving on let's just assume that the boy narrating the video is right and it's one for every 15
Mm notice that this is the only infographic that they'll use that doesn't compare China to America
We'll get to that in a second first
Let's take a look at their source for China having less general practitioners than the international standard
It's the wh o OE CD stats database. Alright, let's take a look
Actually, it looks like the WH o OE CD doesn't even track the ratio of General Practitioners per person in China
So, how are they sourcing this when the data isn't even there?
They do however track the General Practitioners per person in America. Let's take a look. Oh, it's point three one
That's one in 3,000
226 well below the so called the international standard. Whoops
That explains why you didn't use America's data here after all
what kind of crisis would it be if you said both countries don't have enough, but we just want to talk about China and
Speaking of the World Health Organization their world map of countries with a critical shortage of health service providers
Clearly shows that china is not experiencing a critical shortage of doctors nurses or midwives
but of course that information is missing from this video to
Also notice how the narrator is talking about general practitioners, but the text says people per doctor
That's to make you think he's talking about all doctors when he's actually just talking about general
practitioners and if you understood Chinese culture, you'd already know that like I said by far most people specifically look for
Specialists rather than general practitioners. Honestly, I would have thought this number would have been much lower
I know people here who have literally never ever been to a general practitioner even once in their entire lives
and it's not because there aren't enough is because
currently the culture is that of no one wants a generalist they want specialists and
What the hell does the ratio of general practitioners to people have anything to do with this video?
Anyway, these people aren't trying to see general practitioners and general practitioners. Can't help them
These people are here to see
specialists and
Another thing if you're so desperate
To live where there are more doctors per person here are some wonderful countries
You can move to with more doctors per person than America Cuba Kuwait Russia Saudi Arabia, or how about North Korea?
General practitioners we talked to in China typically see 70 to 80 patients per day
Specialist said they see up to 200 each just four minutes at a time. Did you catch that?
They just two seconds ago told us that the specialist can only see seven or eight people per day
So that the line seemed very very scary and now that they have another attack angle
They're changing the story suddenly now specialists see up to 200 people per day, which is it New York Times
It may come ironically as a news flash to the New York Times to find this out
but Chinese culture is not the same as American culture and
One of those ways that Chinese people are different than Americans is that they go to the hospital for what you are considered to be
damn near everything
Stubbed toe a little cut a cold hell sometimes I think they go to the doctor just to have someone to talk to
They go all the time
And because they actually respect the doctors in China
They don't question them as much in my experience
if a doctor tells a patient to take some drugs the patient says
Thank you doctor and then moves on they don't say what I read about this on WebMD here
What about this other thing that someone else said might be better? It's a different culture you get it and
another thing painted here is that there's some nefarious reason that Chinese people don't talk to their doctors as long
in China
There's not a buzzer that goes off after five minutes and then security guards come and take you out of the office you talk to
The doctor as long as you want just like anywhere else
So you tell me how long do you think it should take for an ear nose and throat specialist to prescribe SUDEP it?
Seems like it should be pretty quick to me if you understood this culture at all
you would have never used this statistic as evidence of anything other than
Not everyone as how you think they should be not everyone is American
while rich Chinese will pay for individual care the rest of the
Population those dependent on health insurance end up paying roughly 30 percent of their healthcare costs
Americans may about 10
Individual care in China is extremely rare, even the super-rich go to hospitals
Which you would know if again you had ever even been here before?
Or you have listened to what the people were telling you instead of just changing everything they say to fit your narrative
This is a different culture. It's not a city in America
Do you even understand that and why are you playing this sad music?
You're making it seem like Chinese people pay more money for health care. They don't
why are you using a
percent instead of actual amounts versus income
Because Americans pay eight times as much out-of-pocket as Chinese people do that's why and they don't make eight times the money
so where are all the sad music videos about America, so
Now you're about to show a bunch of disturbing footage of people being very upset in hospitals
I'm not going to show this footage because it's exploitation of these people's grief. I'm just going to show you a still frame
Where you can clearly see what this lady's upset about
Numbers like these have added up to a culture of conflict violence has become commonplace in hospitals across China
Here we see a lady yelling out. You are all murderers
Obviously she had a tragedy someone in her family a loved one has passed away
She's overcome with emotion and grief and rage and she's having a horrible experience
She's dealing with the worst grief in her life
And I just want everyone to notice that what you're trying to say is that she's mad about the bill
Look violence in hospitals is rare in China, and it's a problem everywhere
I've been to hospitals in China many many times and I've never seen any violence nothing even close to it
No one I've ever known has ever seen it anywhere and I just keep wondering why you seem so
Determined to show there's some huge crisis here when clearly there's a big problem in America. I mean just take a look
new AMA policy calls for research on violence against physicians
Violence against emergency room staff were seen as increasing
assaults against ER physicians and rising in America nurses face
Workplace violence rates higher than in any other industry or how about this one that says hospital violence happen
So often that health care workers consider it part of the job
Lower how about this video? That was on one of these articles. I just clicked it and watched
My trainers was killed in the parking lot of the hospital by a deranged occasion
They have a friend from from years ago who was actually targeted by a patient fall at home and
killed in his own driveway
You're showing us a video of a lady overcome with grief and despair and claiming it somehow because she pays
Less money than Americans do I just showed you a video?
I found in two seconds where American doctors are talking about their colleagues being
tracked down and murdered in parking lots and at their homes and yet for some reason I wasn't able to find your video about the
Culture of conflict in America and how violence has become commonplace in hospitals across America? Why is that?
The people you showed are upset because they lost a loved one
It's not because the bill is too high violence in hospitals has become so common in China
There's a word for it, you know, yes in Chinese you can say II now which means hospital disturbance
But the point you're trying to make is so juvenile and stupid. I can't believe that I have to tell the New York Times that
Having a word for something doesn't make it common
They said this in the video and they wrote it in an article. Somebody typed those words
It happens so often they even have a word for it
let me tell you another thing that happens so often that the Chinese have a name for it Cho seal a
That is so common that they even have a word for it. What does that mean? It means ball lightning
Happens all the time because they have a word for it
Also, did that video say 2012 on it?
Let's talk about the most recent statistics in America compared to the previous year according
To the ia h SS f crime and incident survey
hospital rapes and murders
Are up over 11 percent from the previous year
Think that's just a fluke all of the crime statistics
They track are up all of them assault burglary theft vandalism
disorderly conduct motor vehicle theft rape murder
It's all up some metrics are up by 40% and during that same time
Medical disputes and hospital related crimes went down in China not up
So now we're going back to the people who were in life
they scan the board of available specialists selecting one based on their best self diagnosis just like
Everywhere in the world if you want to specify a doctor you can that's what the board is for to
specifically request a doctor if you don't want to request a specific doctor
You don't have to you can just walk in and see any old random doctor
or you can go to a specific department or you can
Go to the counter and say I don't know how to see my leg hurts
It's a hospital. It's really not that hard to understand
If they're bucking like the one they choose we'll have time to see them just because you choose to see a particular doctor
Doesn't mean that they magically have time for you
I feel like I'm explaining things to a baby now
if they don't have time to see you you can just go see another one or make an appointment at the
Kiosk, I mean, did you just send some interns wandering around in a hospital to film everything that confused them?
Where is this crisis you're talking about?
for those who choose wrong the cycle will begin again tomorrow if you chose a
Specialist and you didn't get to see him. You can just go see another doctor that same day
The only way you would need to riku is if you somehow didn't know about all the millions of other ways to go in
book an appointment
Totally ignored the appointment kiosk and then when they told you the doctor didn't have enough time
You said I'm not seeing any other doctors. That's the only one I will see
I'm coming back tomorrow to wait line, and I'm not making an appointment no matter what you say so far in this video
They've introduced the son while leaving out important information about him
they interviewed some people waiting around a line and lied several times about what they said and they
Showed how little they understand China by parroting irrelevant statistics and they try to say that a lady was
Screaming at people in a hospital because the bill was too high but as hard as this is to imagine it actually gets worse
from here
So finally the video will introduce the lady. I've brought up in the intro. She's speaking a regional dialect in this video
So we reached out to a friend of mine who is from her actual City to help us translate this part
The person did not know anything about this project or article. He only had the audio and we have confirmed the translation with multiple sources
To remind you when they filmed this she had already been fighting lung cancer for six years
She got surgery took traditional Chinese medicines got biotherapy turned down
Chemotherapy and radiation therapy and took a recipe for eventually giving up. Let's see what they show us
Find out what this oi will found out before tea
So here she is mentioning that she didn't want chemo or radiation therapy after receiving so many treatments already
She didn't want to reduce her quality of life. She felt she was too old and that's where right
Years old or dingy so has what a lot headaches
Die today yeah new burner satyagraha we don't find a whole
So you notice that just shows her talking about how she got sent home with medicine
But it doesn't mention any other other treatments that she had before this moment
It's just making it seem like she went to the doctors and said I have cancer. What should I do?
And they just said go home lady you'll be fine, which is not at all. What happened?
she tried multiple treatments and turned down multiple treatments before this moment when she was prescribed paid for and took a
lung cancer medicine
But why would the doctor tell her that she will be fine?
Well, he wouldn't he didn't that's not what she's telling the New York Times at all and yet that's what the New York Times is
Telling you they say she said the physician in charge told me ma'am
Your cancer is not yet severe you can take some medicine go back home and get some rest. You will be fine
But as you guessed that's not at all what she said
What she said was the doctor the Maine doctor said Oh
Graham your situation you take some medicine back and try to make your body stronger. Okay fine
No radiation. No chemo. The doctor is accepting her decision to not do chemo or radiation
treatment and
Insisting that she at least take medicine and get rest in
What appears to be the first honest mistake of the video the New York Times apparently used a non-local translator for this conversation
Because they have misunderstood or mistranslated the last words to be you'll be fine
They may have thought her trailing off while saying Y Liao was her saying Plato
But either way we've confirmed this translation with multiple sources
Even if they made one honest mistake
It doesn't excuse all the obviously deliberate ones and on top of that. They should have gotten a local translator
and if you go to a doctor in America and you find out that you have severe lung cancer and
you try surgery and you try traditional medicine and you get
Biotherapy and the doctor says we should be doing chemo and radiation therapy
And you say no I'm not doing those and then he says, okay. Well, then you need to take this cancer medicine
What else are you expecting to happen? I don't understand what comparing this to is there some magic treatment
I'm not aware of that. This lady should have received before this point. I don't get it
You're just using this lady's horrible tragic story to twist it around to make some weird propaganda film about China
It's disgusting then believe it or not. That's not even the worst part yet
Play like you know, the Hornets had a doubt of your yeah. Oh that was her son that you know
That going up in yet another
intentionally mistranslated section
The idea here is to make it seem like nothing was tried with her because she didn't have any money
So they just let her die
So let's listen to what she's actually saying rather than what the New York Times wants you to think that she's saying
so they're saying that what she said is I
Wasted my time and money and delayed my treatment and my cancer got worse
I came back home and said it's already happened this way I give up
I'm resigned to my faith, but my younger son wouldn't let me give up
the key thing here that they're trying to drive home is that she listened to the doctor and
Delayed her treatment and then it was too late for her. That's the message that they're sending to you
when actually the only delay that happened was when she
declined chemo and radiation therapy
Which was again her right to do but actually it doesn't seem like she even said that at all
Let's take a look at what she really said
We spent energy and money, but it was a waste I said forget it. I'm not going back to see any more doctors
My son disagreed and said no, you still have to see doctors here eat some traditional Chinese medicine
So what she's saying is really sad the lady is at the end of her line
it's been six years since she was diagnosed with severe lung cancer and she survived a very long time with that cancer and
This is towards the end of that battle
But the thing is she didn't say that the doctors told her to delay her treatment be because she didn't delay treatment
She got lots of treatment year after year after year until eventually none of them worked anymore and the cancer
Unfortunately one and took this nice lady away from the world
but why is the New York Times trying so hard to make it seem like her doctors denied her treatment when again she's the only
person in this story who turned down any treatments
Can you see now why I was so upset when I saw this video
can you imagine what it must be like to have these idiots from America come to your country and
exploit the deaths of your people for their own propaganda films against you what a disgusting piece and
Just to top it off even the very last thing her son says in this video is intentionally mistranslated. Let's take a look
At each other two competing two touching Tyler John
No, he didn't say this is our way to treat cancer
They're trying to make it seem like he's saying oh, this is just how we do it in China, which is not at all
What he saying?
What he said was this is how the disease is
This is the process
Basically, he's saying yeah
This is just what cancer is you throw everything at it every type of treatment?
You could possibly can and in the end it usually wins and you still die
That's what he's saying and they're twisting that around into Oh China doesn't know what to do about cancer, which is so messed up
It's like why would you do that? And how is it that you think I wouldn't catch you?
Another thing they conveniently left out of the video
The cancer rate from women in America is 15% higher than in China
the lung cancer rate for women is
19% higher in America than in China and in case you're wondering the cancer death rate in China is the same as Denmark Poland
Netherlands France and the UK
Do those places have a huge crisis?
Where's the New York Times articles about people dying from cancer in those places with someone screaming because of the hospital bill?
Someone in line complaining that he was there too early, you know
There's plenty of incompetence on display from the New York Times here, like how they call the lady
mizdow and then later talk her son moving in with his parents or
how they posted the video on the wrong article back in September and then released the right article in November with another wrong video as
Of today the videos are still wrong door
How about the fact that sweetly we the Singaporean lady living in Beijing who wrote the article?
Doesn't even know the city or province
These people were in she said the family lives in the province of Liaoning
But they actually live over 500 miles away in a different province
hubby, but even with these amateur mistakes
I can't force myself to believe that this story was born solely from incompetence
the evidence for sign of phobia is just too prevalent with hundreds of anti China tweets and
Repos on both sui's and video creator Jonah castles twitter accounts. It's no wonder that this article comes off
So anti Chinese Jonah Kessel has been making anti Chinese films inside of China for years
That's how they make their money by exploiting the Chinese by exploiting the dead and dying in China
Look, no country is perfect and no health care system is perfect
but this is just a
propaganda video plain and simple and it's cast a huge shadow over everything the New York Times has done since
How can I trust them to report honestly when they have so clearly shown that they're willing to?
mistranslate lie
Obfuscate the truth and omit relevant information
For those you who want more?
Information about me or my book or if you want to see their sources for this video unlike the New York Times
I've listed them all out as clear as day on my website Nathan. Rich duh online
You know the next time you run a piece about China you need to do more than send out interns to exploit
Tragedies and interview people align and then just edit whatever you get to tell some very tale propaganda video. You better come
Correct next time because I'm watching you
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Andy Zuo published on August 5, 2019
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