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JUDY WOODRUFF: Staying with the campaign,
Lisa Desjardins has the latest installment

in our series of one-on-one interviews with
presidential contenders.

LISA DESJARDINS: Andrew Yang may not yet have
the name recognition of his opponents on the

campaign trail, but the lawyer-turned-entrepreneur
has steadily gained traction since announcing

his bid for president more than a year ago.
The son of Taiwanese immigrants cleared the
threshold to qualify for the first Democratic

debate later this summer.
And he joins me now.
Let's start with something that was in the
news this weekend, the clear feud and very

significant words between Representative Ilhan
Omar and President Trump.

What is your reaction to what the two of them
are saying?

ANDREW YANG (D), Presidential Candidate: Well,
you know, I think that her remarks were taken

very much out of context, and it was really
weeks after the fact.

One of the problems we're having right now
is this manufactured outrage that's happening

on both sides.
Certainly, I think that the president's tweet
that seemed to suggest that her comments were

somehow dishonoring the memory of 9/11 struck
me as needlessly provocative and inciting

hostility toward Muslim Americans.
And so I tweeting saying, look, we're all
Americans and we need to come together.

And I was personally in New York on 9/11,
so I remember the day very well.

LISA DESJARDINS: You have an idea for universal
basic income.

And I'm going to lay it out really quickly
in a graphic, $1,000 per month to every adult

in this country, and then you would make it
so that people would have to make a choice

if they were on some other programs, such
as food stamps or SNAP or Social Security.

They would have to choose which is better
for them, between your money and the Social

Security benefits.
You would pay for it in large percent with
a 10 percent value-added tax.

So essentially, if I get this right, you're
saying you want to add a tax to most of the

things that we buy as it's being produced,
and then you want to give us money in our

What does that do?
ANDREW YANG: Well, if everyone watching this
reflects upon what a $1,000 a month per individual

would do for your household, that would be
game-changer for tens of millions of Americans.

It would improve health.
Children's graduation rates would go up.
Our mental health would improve.
It would even improve our relationships.
It would create millions of jobs around the

And the reason why we need to have a value-added
tax in place is that, right now, the biggest

winners from artificial intelligence and new
technologies will be Amazon and the biggest

tech companies, who right now in some cases
are paying literally zero in taxes, which

is the case with Amazon.
So we need to wake up to the challenges of
the 21st century economy, get more buying

power in the hands of Americans, but also
make sure that our biggest companies aren't

benefiting without paying their fair share.
LISA DESJARDINS: But I think the economics
of this confuse me a little bit.

And I want to bring out a quote, something
you said at a town hall last night with CNN.

You told viewers there that the goal should
not be to save jobs.

The goal should be to make lives better.
But yet you're running on the premise that
we're going to lose potentially millions of

And I'm not clear on how increasing taxes,
which could actually take away some jobs,

giving away money that could increase jobs,
how does that -- what's your vision for the

economy as a whole?
How do you lift up the economy and create
more jobs in general?

Or is that not your goal at all?
ANDREW YANG: Well, the goal is to build a
trickle-up economy, from people, families

and communities up.
And putting $1,000 a month in the hands of
every American adult would actually create

more than two million jobs in our economy
because of increased demand for things like

tutoring services, car repairs, the occasional
night out, trips to the hardware store.

All of those businesses would end up hiring
people in our communities.

LISA DESJARDINS: It sounds like your plan
does not make up for the amount of jobs you

think we will be losing.
ANDREW YANG: Well, one of the examples I use
is that my wife right now is at home with

our two young children, one of whom is autistic.
And right now her work is not considered a
job by the marketplace or by GDP or by our

economic measurements.
But we all know that she's doing some of the
most important and difficult and challenging

So what we need to do is, we need to broaden
our definition of what work is.

And more and more Americans hopefully will
be in position to do the work that they want

to do if we put this economic buying power
into their hands.

LISA DESJARDINS: You also want to broaden
the definition of American health care -- or

change it anyway.
You say that you want to get to universal
single-payer government-run health care, ultimately,

and you want to phase that in.
Sort of a brief question here.
How long is that phase-in period?
Would we see universal health care in your
first term as president?

ANDREW YANG: You know, it will probably happen
in my second term as president, because my

plan is to lower the eligibility age for Medicare.
I am a Medicare-for-all public option proponent.
I would not outlaw or eliminate private health

But if we do a good enough job, with a robust
public option, there really should not be

as much of a need for private insurance in
the market.

LISA DESJARDINS: I have to say I was excited
about this interview because you have more

policy proposals, I think, than anyone else
running right now, if you just take a look

at your Web site, dozens of very specific
ideas that you have.

For example, you would make today, Tax Day,
a national holiday.

You think the NCAA should pay college athletes.
You would put a term limit on Supreme Court
justices, and you would lower the voting age

to 16.
Also, one of your policies is, you would decriminalize
possession of small amounts of opioids, including

Why, especially when we know that opioids,
even in small amounts, it seems, can be very

ANDREW YANG: Well, that's exactly why we need
to decriminalize the use, because, when I

was in Iowa, an 18-year-old high school student
said to me that his classmates are literally

addicted to fentanyl and heroin.
And that struck me as incredible and tragic.
And so I started looking internationally for

And other countries have decriminalized opiate
possession, not sale, not if you're like a

drug dealer.
But if you get caught with a small supply
of opiates, we should be referring you straight

to treatment, and not a jail cell.
And in other countries, that has reduced both
the usage rate and the overdose rate over

LISA DESJARDINS: I want to turn to foreign

We're in a time of very significant global

And there is U.S. presence on the ground in
dozens of countries right now.

We have seen just in the last week protests
and overthrow and Africa.

ISIS is weak, but still surviving in Syria.
Afghanistan is not yet fully stable.
I'm wondering which of those situations you
think would call for U.S. involvement, if

any, and what kind of involvement.
What is your foreign policy vision?
ANDREW YANG: Well, I would want to rebuild
the partnerships and alliances that we have

had over the last number of years that in
many cases have become very frayed because

some of our longstanding allies now regard
the United States as an unreliable partner.

And, to me, our foreign policy should reflect
how we're doing at home.

In my opinion, the reason why Donald Trump
is our president is that we have been falling

apart at home.
So job number one is to rebuild the American
community, the American people.

And our foreign policy should become much
more restrained and judicious.

I would want to rebuild our partnerships and
alliances, and hopefully rely more on the

U.N. and diplomacy and multilateral approaches
to problems.

LISA DESJARDINS: Would you pull out U.S. forces
from, say, Afghanistan and Syria altogether?

ANDREW YANG: Over time, that should be the

And, certainly, we shouldn't have done it
in the way that President Trump did when he

did it abruptly and didn't notify allies.
And then some friends of mine resigned, you
know, in protest.

I mean, if you're going to do something, you
have to do it responsibly.

But we have been in some of these contexts
for many years.

And, at this point, it's time to own the fact
that we should bring those troops home.

LISA DESJARDINS: Andrew Yang, Democratic candidate
for president, thank you for joining us.

ANDREW YANG: Well, thank you.
It's been a pleasure.
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