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  • - Oh here's a taxi.

  • - What?

  • Oh (beeping)

  • - [Nev] It's a taxi, and it is definitely stopping.

  • - Oh (beeping).

  • (suspenseful music)

  • - [Nev] Oh my god, no way.

  • - [Man] Oh my god.

  • - [Max] Whoa.

  • - Oh, he don't know her.

  • - [Nev] Hey.

  • - [Ricky] Hey how's it going? - [Nev] How you doing?

  • - [Ricky] Pretty good.

  • - [Nev] I'm Nev.

  • - Nice to meet you, Nev.

  • (suspenseful music)

  • - I'm gonna guess your name is Rickie.

  • AKA, Giovanni.

  • - It's a whole lot, it's a whole lot,

  • but the best thing you could do is, you know,

  • follow me inside.

  • - Actually, what I'd like to do is introduce you to Miracle.

  • - [Rickie] I'll do that for you.

  • - [Nev] Let's do that.

  • - I'll do that for you.

  • Yep.

  • I mean.

  • - [Nev] You don't wanna come down here?

  • - I'd rather have her come up this way.

  • - Why is that?

  • - Like I said, you definitely need to follow me inside.

  • I got some.

  • It's hard to explain right now.

  • It's hard to explain.

  • - Why don't you just walk down here with me?

  • Wait, hold up, hold up, hold up.

  • Where you going, man?

  • - Nev.

  • Don't you follow no angry black man into their house.

  • - I guess he went back upstairs.

  • I can understand he feels like

  • we're putting him in the hot seat.

  • If he really needs us to go inside,

  • I'm willing to go in.

  • - It's fine.

  • Charlamagne, you have to come too.

  • - Oh Lord, MTV aint paying me enough for all this, bro.

  • (suspenseful music)

  • - Okay, we are in the house.

  • - Do you know me form somewhere?

  • Like have you seen me?

  • - No.

  • - So why me?

  • - You know, I-

  • it's tough man, it's hard.

  • - [Nev] Let's just talk for a second.

  • She's just feeling a lot of anger and humiliation.

  • - I get that, I get that.

  • - So I think the best thing you can do is

  • to just tell her and us what's going on with you.

  • Whatever it is.

  • - [Miracle] Oh god.

  • - Give me a sec.

  • - Think about it, no pressure.

  • He's just gonna take a second.

  • I'd like to at least give him an opportunity

  • to just explain himself.

  • (suspenseful music)

  • Hi.

  • - Hello, how are you? - Hi.

  • - I'm Nev.

  • - I'm Kara.

  • - Kara.

  • - Yes. - Hi.

  • - Well,

  • I'm Giovanni.

  • - Meaning you are the person with whom

  • Miracle has been texting.

  • - Yes.

  • - Which would mean that you're the guy

  • on the phone that she spoke to.

  • - [Kara] Yes.

  • - So together you guys created this--

  • - Not together.

  • - No.

  • - I did it on my own.

  • When Miracle wanted to speak with a guy,

  • I didn't know who else to turn to

  • but my husband.

  • I made a page because a friend of mine,

  • her boyfriend was cheating on her

  • and the girl that he was cheating with,

  • I was trying to get her to give me all of her information,

  • so of course when I made the page,

  • I'm just sending out friend requests to everyone.

  • - So you made the Giovanni Santos page

  • to reach out to a girl that your friend's boyfriend

  • was messing around with.

  • - Yes.

  • - Explain how we ended up here right now.

  • 'Cause there's a big, there's a big--

  • - There is a big gap, well.

  • I don't work because I have Lupus.

  • Most of the time I'm just kinda laying around,

  • kinda in bed not feeling good,

  • so when she started texting, it was like oh,

  • not thinking that it would have went this far.

  • Not thinking that it would have lasted

  • more than a week or two.

  • - This some real Catfish (beeping).

  • - Why you let your wife do this, though?

  • Why you didn't check your wife, bruh?

  • - Like why didn't you take the phone

  • and say, "Miracle, this my wife, she playing"?

  • - She's here majority of the time,

  • I'm usually not here, I'm working.

  • That's what I do, you know?

  • So I'm normally gone, so I didn't realize

  • how deep it had gotten.

  • Girl, you need to stop with that.

  • I didn't realize that it went

  • over what she originally planned for it to be.

  • - Once I got to know Miracle,

  • like I thought she was a really sweet girl.

  • - Are your feelings--

  • - Genuine, they're genuine.

  • Yes, everything through our text messages,

  • that was all me.

  • - But to be clear, you expressed,

  • at least from the little bit that was made apparent to us,

  • like romantic feelings.

  • - Um, some of it was pretend, and some of it was real.

  • But far as like, wanting a relationship with it,

  • no I don't want to take it that far.

  • - I mean, just from what I got, it was a relationship.

  • - No it wasn't.

  • - That you know, couldn't be put the risk, you know?

  • You know, a month go past and,

  • you still kind of have a thing with her,

  • you still, this is what's still going on?

  • - This is some BS right now.

  • You did make me feel like that person was a real person.

  • Now we on national television looking crazy as hell.

  • I have friends, I have family, I have a daughter.

  • I have a job, I have a career.

  • I work for the damn state.

  • I'm sitting here looking dumb as hell

  • because of you, because of you.

  • - I do apologize that you got wrapped up,

  • but at the same time, it's not like

  • you, you, you, you, you, it's not that.

  • It's us, we did it together.

  • We was in this together, we was- I wasn't texting myself.

  • - You're trying to blame the victim.

  • - Mind you, several times, I did try to stop.

  • - Every time you tried, you were right back

  • trying to keep me to stay there,

  • saying all this weird stuff.

  • Let's just be real, do not sit and say you was just

  • sitting here like I'm done, I'm done, I'm done,

  • and I'm just sitting here like some dumb ass female.

  • And I'm still there.

  • Come on man, let's be real.

  • - I tried more than once.

  • - Is it Lupus or she's psycho, which one?

  • You're a sick individual.

  • - I am a (beeping) sick individual.

  • I am a sick individual.

  • - I know you are--

  • - I have Lupus and I live with it every (beeping) day.

  • - Your mind, your mind. - you're talking about sick,

  • my mind is good, my mind is good.

  • There is nothing wrong, but thinking like--

  • - For you to sit and do something like this.

  • - I apologized, I said I'm sorry.

  • What the (beeping) do you want me to do?

  • Like, get on my knees and beg?

  • I'm not gonna do that.