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  • Lisa Haven: Hi everybody this is Lisa Haven and I have

  • an interesting topic for you! And that is,

  • what happens when you die? Now, this is one hundred percent proof,

  • from the mouth of NDEs which are Near Death Experience cases.

  • And I am going to get into detail and I am going to share a couple of stories about that.

  • But 100 percent true about what happens when you die, at least from the

  • mouths of some involved. Now,

  • I have been reading this book it is called,

  • The Supernatural Worldviewby Chris Putnan

  • and it recently came out.

  • Anyhow, I really enjoyed it and I found some great insights

  • on it. I am not done reading it yet, but I have started on it,

  • and I just want to share with you, some of those stories

  • from this book and I will leave a link at the bottom if you want to check that out.

  • But oftentimes, people are left with a question:

  • What happens at the end of life? What happens when you die?

  • All religions tend to claim they have an answer - you have reincarnation as an answer,

  • you have the atheist view - where you just die and that is it. [Chuckles]

  • And then you have the Christian answer which is you die and there is a Heaven,

  • and there is the Hell, which is what I believe.

  • And which is what I know is real, but we are going to take

  • the advise of near-death experiences and then make our conclusion.

  • And I think you will be amazed by it. And then you also have the other side

  • where everybody goes to Heaven!

  • All paths lead to Heaven! Is that really the case?

  • And that is the question that I want to address today, but the first

  • near-death experience and these are people who have basically died,

  • or almost died, or left their body

  • during surgery, or walked down a tunnel, or saw Heaven, or saw Hell.

  • Something happened to these people, when they came back,

  • they had an amazing story and there are a lot of links that can be seen.

  • So anyway, the first story that I want to just read to you,

  • again I am going to read it straight from this book, is this Kimberly Clark story and it is about...

  • ...she was one of the workers in the hospital

  • but it is about the girl, Maria. And I am just going to read it to you straight from here,

  • but it is pretty cool.

  • Okay, “Maria had never been to Seattle

  • America was everything she had imagined and more

  • although the rain never stopped that crazy flying saucer looking building

  • epitomized America's excess en la

  • parte superior, however this visit was only brief

  • respite from the audacious

  • picking season, like most other migrant workers she sent her hard-earned wages home.

  • She came to this country for work and

  • flash suddenly, swishing pain, shortness of breath and darkness

  • had filled her heart. Sirens and traffic

  • and blinding lights were heard overhead a very skinny nurse

  • said she had a heart attack. She had been admitted to the Harborview

  • Hospital's Coronary Care Unit. While lying in the metal frame

  • bed - everything seemed white-clean, a bleach

  • aroma prevailed. Surely, she would be up against soon,

  • it came again like a cannon-shot - the pain in her chest exploded

  • once more. And there she went

  • up and out of her body...” Now, she was having

  • a cardiac arrest and here she is, all of a sudden, leaving her body.

  • “...Really, out! She was out of her body! Looking down,

  • she saw panicked staff rush to her bedside

  • amidst the clamor of squawking alarms.

  • everything was realer than real - hyper real,

  • high-definition, holographic, multidimensional.

  • She was floating,

  • as the traffic was screaming and equipment was buzzing and beeping,

  • she felt a blissful peace. She rose through the ceiling,

  • through the roof and looked down on the hospital. 'Floating?'

  • she thought, 'Now that is odd. I am floating.' On a window ledge,

  • she saw a single tattered blue tennis shoes

  • sitting on its frayed lace. She wondered,

  • 'How did it get way up here on the third floor?' It had a hole

  • in the pinky toe. All of a sudden, she shot back into her body

  • and felt an icy hot pain as she looked up and saw the doctor holding

  • the defibrillator paddles...” So now, what has happened so far,

  • is she went in for, I believe,

  • a heart attack or cardiac arrest,

  • but she had this and then

  • she left her body, this happened two cases as far as for her cardiac arrest,

  • and she went up to the third floor of the building

  • and on the third floor she saw the shoe with a shoe lace.

  • And set a certain way - it was you know

  • well - it was sitting a certain way. Now, Kimberly Clark who is the nurse,

  • “...was working as a social worker at Harborview Hospital

  • when the unconscious cardiac arrest patient, Maria,

  • was admitted she had arrested again

  • in the hospital, flat lining for a minute or two,

  • but was resuscitated within the three minute window.

  • As part of her customary follow-up, Clark visited her

  • the same day whereupon Maria related

  • her out of body experience floating above the hospital.

  • In addition to describing Maria's perspective looking down on her body

  • and then rising through the building, Clark reported,

  • Maria proceeded to describe being further distracted by an object

  • on the third floor ledge at the north end of the building.

  • She thought her way up there and found herself

  • eyeball to shoelace with the tennis shoe, which she asked me to find for her.

  • Anxiously, to prove that she was not crazy,

  • Maria desperately wanted the social worker to find

  • the shoe.” Now, it goes on to say that basically

  • she goes up - Kimberly Clark - and she goes up to the third floor and she finds

  • this shoe with the shoelace with the hole in the pinky toe

  • just as Maria had described. And there is no way

  • that Maria would have known that, unless

  • she had a near-death experience or that out of body experience

  • and this is what we see happening with Maria. That is,

  • 100 percent concrete evidence

  • of someone leaving their body and coming back. Now, I want to read you one short one

  • and this is another story about Howard Storm and let me read you his is really short.

  • Storm was on a teaching trip to Paris when he was

  • suddenly overwhelmed by excruciating pain

  • and put into an ambulance and rushed to a nearby hospital.

  • For a short while he was dead.

  • As an Atheist, Storm,

  • expected oblivion at death -

  • to his astonishment he was suddenly out his body,

  • looking down at the hospital room...” Now, keep in mind he is an Atheist,

  • so his preconceived beliefs are not driving this,

  • because if it was his preconceived beliefs,

  • he surely would not have been out of his body as an Atheist, okay.

  • “...Then rather than going towards the light

  • he was forcibly dragged down to a horrific

  • place of darkness where monstrous evil

  • entities tortured him in revolting ways...”

  • That kind of sounds like the Hell of the Bible. He was dragged down to the pits of Hell,

  • but it goes on, “...later rescued and transported to Heaven,

  • he encountered angels and the Creator God

  • of the Bible. He described a life review

  • and an interesting conversation

  • with God. Storm was sent back with a new mission

  • to proclaim the Gospel and today he is a pastor

  • of the Christian religion.” So you have

  • one near-death experience with Maria going

  • up being able to see the shoe, okay now, keep in mind Maria was fully conscious -

  • she was able to describe a shoe,

  • okay, while her body was down below.

  • Okay, most people think, “Your brain is thinking.” Yes, your brain is thinking,

  • but even when you are unattached to your brain,

  • you still have a conscious mind - I want you to note that.

  • So, that is one key thing and another thing

  • that we are noticing with Howard Storm is that he too

  • was an Atheist and preconceived ideas of what happens

  • to these near-death experiences did not exist with him.

  • He was physically dragged to a place of

  • torment and the Bible describes that place of torment

  • as Hell. And I am going to read a couple scriptures in a moment.

  • Now, there is another story and I am going to just try to,

  • because it is a little long, but I am just going to

  • sum it up for you. But it is the Pam Reynolds story.

  • No, I will read it - it is not that long.

  • So, one more story and then we will stop with the stories but, “...Reynolds endured

  • an exotic surgical procedure called 'Operation Standstill,'

  • to remove a life-threatening aneurysm on her brain stem.

  • The procedure entails: stopping the heart, and the blood is drained from

  • the brain to allow the aneurysm to be

  • removed, even more the body temperature is lowered to sixty degrees

  • while fully anesthetized or with anesthetics

  • with sound admitting earplugs to verify

  • flat brain wave activity on the EEG (Electroencephalography)....”

  • So basically, she was put under by an anesthesiologist

  • sorry if I messed it up earlier, but she was put under by an anesthesiologist. And

  • they were working on her brain

  • and the heart and she was getting this aneurysm removed.

  • Well, the story goes on to say that basically she has the near-death experience.

  • And she floats above her body and she is able to describe

  • all the tools and the conversations that the doctor had while she was

  • under.” And it (her description) was to 100 percent details,

  • so much so, that the doctors themselves were just

  • utterly stunned and many of them converted

  • to Christianity. And the thing is,

  • she too was out of her body, which means

  • her conscience was working even though the brain