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  • Darryl Anka (Bashar) July 14, 2014

  • Buddha at the Gas Pump Interview

  • Welcome to Buddha at the Gas Pump.

  • My name is Rick Archer and my guest today is Darryl Anka, who channels an entity known

  • as Bashar.

  • Well first of all, welcome Darryl thanks for doing this.

  • Thank you Rick, my pleasure.

  • Thank you for having me, I really appreciate it.

  • Yeah well this is gonna be fun.

  • Those who have been watching this show for some time know that I have a fairly eclectic

  • understanding, or orientation, towards spirituality.

  • I feel that the universe is far more vast and diverse, and complex and mysterious than

  • most of us realize, and that it's all pervaded by Divine intelligence, and that Divine intelligence

  • has a lot of tricks up it's sleeve [chuckles].

  • You know, a lot of different ways of enabling people to more fully realize that deep reality.

  • So I don't rule out much of anything as a valid spiritual path, and I think that people

  • choose the paths which they feel the most resonance or affinity, and that's cool with

  • me.

  • So I feel that the purpose of this show is to expose people to a variety of teachers

  • and teachings and paths and spiritual orientations, and let them use their own judgment as to

  • what works for them.

  • So I say that as, you know, a little bit of an introduction because I know that some of

  • my audience will think, “Oh, channeling, aliens and all this stuff.

  • What does this have to do?– I'm into Vedanta.”

  • And so I'd say, great.

  • Enjoy Vedanta but Vedanta isn't the only game in town.

  • And if you happen to resonate with what we're going to talk about today, and I'm sure

  • many of you will, then that's good.

  • And if you don't, then I'll do another one next week on a different topic [both laughing].

  • So Darryl, one thing that when I was listening to your various recordings of Bashar, there's

  • one in which he distinguished between, I believe it was, skepticism and cynicism.

  • Yes.

  • Yeah, I like that one, and correct me if I'm wrong, but he defined skepticism as a sort

  • of a healthy, open-minded inquisitiveness, which you're free to ask questions that

  • may arise, but you keep an open mind and you're willing to revise your perspective if new

  • evidence is presented.

  • Whereas cynicism is more like a rigidity, or a closed-mindedness, where you feel like

  • you've got it all figured out, and you reject evidence that clashes with your world-view

  • as being kooky or erroneous, or fallacious, or whatever.

  • Yes.

  • So by that definition, I would consider myself a skeptic - and it's sort of a complimentary

  • term - and I'll probably be asking some questions that may seem skeptical, but they're

  • asked in all respect and appreciation for what you do.

  • Yeah, that's fine.

  • Yeah, they may be questions that people we're talking to have in their own minds, so we

  • want to cover them.

  • So with that introduction, I think this interview will probably breakdown into two main sections,

  • and there may be sort of, inter-mixture between the two sections, but one will be about your

  • life.

  • You know, who you are and how you got into this, and how that whole thing unfolded.

  • And the other is about Bashar himself and the knowledge that he is bringing forth.

  • And so those two are intertwined but somewhat separate.

  • So let's start with the first one first.

  • As I understand it, you've been doing this for decades now.

  • 30 years.

  • 30 years, yeah, long time.

  • I know you've covered this in other interviews; there was a great interview on something called

  • 'Waking Universe'.

  • I really appreciated that one, that guy did a good job.

  • But since the people listening to this will probably not have listened to that, let's

  • cover some of the same ground, and maybe I'll ask some different questions.

  • Sure, absolutely.

  • So let's start by just, how did this whole thing start?

  • Well, for me it began back in 1973.

  • I actually had two, very close, broad daylight UFO sightings here in Los Angeles.

  • First time, about 150 feet away, the second time, only about 70 feet away.

  • Both times it was an equilateral, black, triangular ship - about 20 or 30 feet on each side.

  • Now fortunately I had witnesses with me both times, so I knew I had some collaboration

  • and some corroboration in that experiencein both those experiences.

  • But it was those UFO experiences that started me investigating what's this all about?

  • Because now I'd seen something like that, I knew that the world wasn't exactly as

  • I had been taught it was, and I needed to find out what was going on.

  • So in that investigation in the following yearsof course back then there weren't

  • a lot of books on a lot of metaphysical subjects.

  • So you kind of walk into a bookstore looking for UFO books and books on psychic functioning

  • or channeling, or things like that, would all be on the same one shelf in the back of

  • the store.

  • So I just kind of went down the line and picked up on these different books, and tried to

  • ascertain if one had anything to do with another.

  • I became familiar with channeling through the Seth material from Jane Roberts, and I

  • found it to be

  • Hang on just one second before you proceed.

  • About the UFOs, Los Angeles is a populous place.

  • I mean, was this broad daylight, did you say?

  • Both of them were in broad daylight, yes.

  • I was on the freeway the first time.

  • We were actually looking around to see if anyone else in any of the other cars, while

  • we were driving, were looking up at this thing.

  • Everyone in my car saw it, but I couldn't tell if anyone else was looking up and seeing

  • this thing.

  • It was hovering just above and outside of this hotel, which was maybe about 12 stories

  • tall.

  • And it didn't make the news or anything?

  • Well not that I was aware of, although I have subsequently seen more and more reports of

  • triangular UFOs since that time.

  • But I think it took about 2 or 3 years after my sighting before I actually heard of another

  • report of a triangular UFO.

  • They seem to be pretty rare back then; now they seem to be more and more common.

  • Ok.

  • Did you have any spiritual or esoteric tendencies before this, or was that the catalyst that

  • got you going?

  • Not really.

  • That was the really the catalyst.

  • I mean my family had raised me Catholic.

  • You know, I didn't really resonate with the idea of

  • religion in that sense; it was just kind of surreal to me.

  • And so no, I didn't really have any leanings in any particular spiritual direction, but

  • this really ignited my curiosity about what was going on.

  • Ok, good.

  • And so later on we'll talk a lot more about the UFO phenomenon and all that.

  • Sure.

  • But you were about to talk about your exploration and you mentioned you stumbled upon the Seth

  • materialJane Roberts.

  • Yes, yes, and so that gave me some degree of introduction to the idea of channeling.

  • And 10 years after the UFO sighting, I was actually introduced to a channel who was holding

  • seminars at the time.

  • And I went to listen to the information coming through that channel, and after a few months

  • I thought, it's interesting information, it seems to be constructive, it seems to have

  • the capacity to help people make positive and constructive choices in their lives.

  • Now eventually, that entity offered to teach a channeling class.

  • I went into the class, not because I thought I was going to become a channel; I was just

  • trying to further my research, 'cause I didn't understand how channeling could be

  • taught to someone.

  • My understanding at that point, was that it was just sort of something that happened to

  • you out of the blue.

  • But in the class, which was basically a series of guided meditations to put you in touch

  • with whatever you wanted to get in touch with, be it more creativity, your own higher mind,

  • or you know, whatever, I received what I can only describe as a telepathic hit.

  • And in that one instant, an actual memory came back of having made an agreement of doing

  • this channeling with Bashar, in this life.

  • In that instant I understood the UFO had been shown to me on purpose, to get me to start

  • doing the research I was doing so I would be ready by the time it came time to do the

  • channeling.

  • And the information in my head was, “Now that you know you made this agreement, now

  • you know it's time to begin.

  • Is this something you would still like to do?”

  • So this is an agreement that you made before your birth?

  • Yes.

  • And so maybe that's why the other people on the freeway didn't see the UFO, because

  • it was really meant for you.

  • And maybe they couldn't isolate out the other people in your car [chuckling].

  • And I've heard this happen many times from other people who've reported UFOs.

  • Sometimes they'll be standing around a group of people, and only 1 or 2 people in the group

  • will actually be able to see the UFO.

  • So they may have a way of tuning the frequency to a particular person and making themselves

  • essentially invisible to anyone who's not on that wavelength.

  • Hmm.

  • Maybe the people in your car were somewhat like-minded, you know, more open-minded, higher

  • consciousness kind of people, or something.

  • Somewhat, …Sure, well you know, like attracts like.

  • They were my brother, my sister, a very, very close friend of mine and her brother.

  • So in a sense we were all family.

  • Ok good.

  • So you got this hit.

  • You realized, “Ooh, I had made an agreement to do this,” and continue.

  • Yeah, so for a little bit I thought, “Ok, maybe I'm hallucinating here.

  • Maybe this is just my imagination.

  • It's a side effect of the meditation we're doing, I don't know.”

  • But, the instant this actually happened in my head, the entity coming through the teacher

  • stopped talking to the class and turned to me and said, “There's an entity here for

  • you, now, if you're ready to begin.”

  • And at the same moment, I glanced over and noticed that one of the other classmates was

  • actually, had also, somehow, picked up on this peripherally, what was going on, and

  • was actually sketching an image of Bashar that I had seen in my head.

  • So I already had 2 external validations that this wasn't just going on inside me.