and a life that you love. In our fast paced world, it’s really easy to miss the beauty

that’s often right in front of our face. And today my guest has devoted his entire

career to giving us a glimpse of the magic and the wonder that surrounds us each and

every day.

Louie Schwartzberg is an award-winning producer, director, and cinematographer who’s been

shooting time-lapse 24/7 continuously for nearly 4 decades. Schwartzberg is a visual

artist breaking barriers and telling stories that celebrate nature and life. Two of his

recent TEDx talks are regularly cited among the top watched of all time. A 15 episode

web series based on his viral video, Gratitude Revealed, is currently on Oprah.com and he

was a guest on Super Soul Sunday. His moving art series, which explores the beauty and

majesty of nature, is available on Netflix. His most recent films include Wings of Life,

narrated by Meryl Streep, and Mysteries of the Unseen World, an IMAX film narrated by

Forest Whitaker. Over his long trailblazing career, Schwartzberg has earned a myriad of

awards and honors and was recognized as one of the top 70 cinematographers for the on

film Kodak salute series.

Louie, thank you so much for taking the time to be here today.

Great to be here.

So you’re a pioneer in the field of time-lapse photography. What inspired you to get into

this unique aspect of filmmaking?

Well, when I graduated from UCLA I wanted to shoot the highest quality resolution film

I could, but I didn't have any money. So I got involved with time lapse because I could

shoot one frame every 20 minutes and it would take me a month or two to shoot a roll of

film, which was four minutes, and that enabled me to kind of do high quality cinematography

but, at the same time, not spend a lot of money. But in addition to that, it really

filled my sense of wonder. I mean, being able to see the world from a different time and

space, it changes your worldview. It broadens your horizons. I mean, to see the world from

the point of view of a flower or the point of view of a mosquito or the point of view

of a redwood tree, makes you really understand that we have these narrow windows that we

look through and if we can begin to open up that portal, it opens up your heart and definitely

feeds your mind and your soul.

Did you ever have dreams to be a traditional filmmaker in the sense of, like, I want to

go to Hollywood and make those big movies? Or was this always something that you dreamed

of perhaps since you were little? I was curious about that trajectory.

Yeah, well, growing up in Brooklyn I had no idea I would ever be filming nature, let alone

filmmaking. My parents were Holocaust survivors and if they didn't experience, well, neither

did I. But when I went to UCLA I got involved in documenting the anti-war movement, which

was something that was… it was a way for me to fight back, a way to record the police

brutality against the demonstrators, especially against women. And that turned me onto photography

and filmmaking, which then turned me onto my greatest teacher. She taught me everything

about lighting, composition, and color. It was mother nature. And that was the path I’ve

been on because mother nature teaches you really how to live a creative and sustainable

life. So I followed my passion more than dreaming about being a Hollywood filmmaker and, interestingly

enough, Hollywood caught up to my vision because then we built a large company, they started

licensing time-lapse cinematography for commercials, music videos, feature films. And not just

time lapse but, you know, aerial, slice of life, contemporary imagery which did not exist

before. So basically I created the stock… the contemporary stock footage licensing business.

That’s incredible. And it’s something that I know in the beginning of my career

just beautiful stock photography and all those things, it made such a difference just to

have these beautiful images, so thank you for pioneering that.

Yeah.

One of the things that you say that I love, that beauty and seduction are nature’s tools

for survival. We protect what we fall in love with. Can you tell us more about that philosophy

and how you’ve seen that come to life over the course of your career?

Well, I’ve had a camera going 24 hours a day 7 days a week for over 3 decades shooting

time lapse flowers. Flowers are beautiful, right? You love them as well. And capturing

their beauty and the way they move to the light seduced me, and that was enough to keep

me going but I think there’s really a greater story, and that story was when I found out

that the bees were dying. Well, you can’t tell the story about the bees without telling

a story about flowers and how they co-evolved over 50 million years. I call it a love story

that feeds the earth. So that relationship between the animal world and the plant world,

gives us the most nutritious food we need to eat: fruits, nuts, vegetables, and seeds.

It’s the foundation of life on our planet. And that relationship of pollination is based

on beauty. I mean, this gorgeous flower and its color and its pattern is saying to the

pollinator, “Come over here, I need to reproduce. I’m ready to go, I need to be fertilized.”

You know? So the insect, the bee, gets, you know, nectar and pollen so that it can feed

its young. The flower gets its DNA moved from one partner to another because plants don't

have legs and they can’t walk. And they can’t mate and they can’t date without

a messenger. So life is all about, you know, DNA moving forward, and so beauty and seduction

is nature’s way for life to move forward. And we are hardwired, just like they are.

I mean, you’ve got a beautiful dress on today.

Thank you.

The pattern and the colors are designed for my eyes to notice it. Correct?

Yeah.

So we’re hardwired to respond to color, taste, touch, and smell. It’s… it’s

in our… well, it’s just in our soul.

Yeah.

Now, advertisers use it all the time to manipulate people. There’s always a pretty girl next

to a car.

Yeah.

Right?

Hopefully not so many moving forward, but yeah.

No, but… but, you know, we, to be honest about it, they use sex all the time to sell

products.

Sure.

And… and they’ve studied it really well because they know they can manipulate you

in a certain way. So nature has, you know, has kind of embedded our sensibility to respond

to vibrations of color, light, touch, and smell. And that is what motivates, I guess

it… it truly makes the world go around.

Yeah. You know, I was actually thinking about that particularly for Wings of Life, which

is narrated by Meryl Streep, and it is a breathtaking feature from a decidedly feminine perspective.

Right.

And I thought that was fascinating and I was curious how you came to that choice, if you

started the project with that in mind or if that was something that evolved from starting

to look at the footage and what you were shooting.

It really evolved. You know, most nature programs are based on predator vs prey.

Yes.

Which is very manipulative and, well, it induces fear, fear and anxiety, but it gets good ratings.

Shark Week is always the most popular show on television. But if you really study nature,

if you’re present and mindful and observant, it’s the little things that make the world

go round. It’s the billions of interactions, as I said earlier, between the pollinators

and the flowers, it’s the foundation of life. And that story is a feminine story cuz

it’s about relationships, cooperation, symbiosis, nurturing. That is the foundation of life.

So obviously I had to tell it from a feminine point of view and who would be the… the

best female voice in the world? Meryl Streep. Right?

I loved it. I mean, I keep going back to it. And I’m so thankful that there’s a portion

of your work on Netflix, which I’m a subscriber. So I was just sitting there and listening

to it and watching some things again and particularly, the other thing that got me curious was thinking

about you and your process in this, particularly with Wings of Life. And wondering, you know,

do you do so much research on these different flowers and the different insects and the

different birds and the animals before you actually go in to shoot? So I was thinking

about particularly the bucket orchid.

Yeah.

And the orchid bees.

Right.

And just how extraordinary it is that these bucket bees come in, they get seduced by the

nectar, and there’s one escape route and she holds onto that bee until she can glue

down those pollen sacs. So I was just curious to hear from you how much research you do

before and what is… or, versus, what is the process? Like, woah, that actually happens.

As a documentary filmmaker I’m always on the voyage of discovery.

Yeah.

So I’m not an expert about insects or flowers, but what I do is I work with scientists and

I hear all the, you know, research and the stories and I pick the most seductive story

that I think will help me tell the grander story of what we’re trying to, you know,

show. So the orchid bee, I loved it ‘cause it reminded me of a guy going from one bar

to the other trying to score some perfume so he can get a date. Right?

Yeah.

But every time he does, he almost dies.

And that’s what got me so scared with that scene. I was like oh my goodness, is this

orchid just gonna kill the bee?

Yeah. So the typical male is going from bar to bar trying to pick up a girl and, you know,

and every time he does he almost dies. But after that experience he does it all over

again. The drive for life to go forward is so strong, it’s unstoppable. And in most

species, I mean, they’ll give up food and water in order to mate. You know, and it’s

pretty amazing and powerful. So when I… so rather than just doing a story about a

bee, you know, I hear, well, there’s a bumblebee and there’s a honeybee and then there’s

the orchid bee. What a rare experience it was to shoot that in Panama. As a matter of

fact, it really had never been recorded on film before. But when the scientists told

me about that story I thought it was a great opener because it’s not lovey dovey, it’s

not a Pollyanna story. Right?

Right.

I mean, it engages you because the bee almost dies.

Yes.

You know.

Which that’s exactly what I thought was going to happen.

Yeah.

I thought he was out.

And it’s remarkable and it’s incredible and he looks like a martian.

Yup.

He’s like flourescent blue and turquoise. So that was a good way to kind of, you know,

grab an audience.

That’s awesome. And the other thing that I love, I happen to have a real affection

for hummingbirds.

Yeah.

Like I know a lot of people do. And seeing them do those acrobatics and how you’re

able to capture something that moves so fast that we wouldn’t be able to see if you haven’t

captured it and showed it to us in this new framework.

Well, that’s the beauty of slow motion again. We live in this narrow world, we’re recording

right now at 24 frames per second. That’s the human POV. There’s a lot of… when

I say POV, point of view.

Yeah.

For the audience.

Yeah.

And what a wonderful way to expand your mind and your consciousness to realize that there

are so many different ways of looking at life that is real. And slow motion, with the hummingbirds,

it puts you into their world of, you know, you’re seeing the combat, you’re seeing

the twirls and all those acrobatics but to our eyes it’s just a blur.

Yes.

You see a hummingbird go by go [woosh]. There it went. And so to be in their world, to see

it from their point of view, it opens your heart and I think it makes you appreciate

life, it makes you appreciate hummingbirds, maybe it’ll make you put up a feeder in

your backyard.

Yes, I have them.

Do you?

Yeah.

And… and that’s good because I think it generates compassion.

Yes.

By being present and mindful, and gratitude.

Let’s talk about the power of focus. You know, in this world, especially with technology,

which I think can be such an asset and then sometimes it can be a hindrance, I hear so

many people struggling with what to focus on. They have so many choices from what foods

to buy, from what to do with their businesses and their careers and what to watch and what

to read, and I know for you, you really have to choose your focus. There’s so many things

that you could put your camera on. And even within the frame of what you want to shoot,

there’s so many different angles. So I’m curious if you can speak to how choosing where

to focus both in your work and your life has evolved through what you do.

Well, I think it’s a wonderful metaphor if you look at it from a cinematographer’s

point of view. You have to choose the right lens, the right F-stop in order to tell a

good story. And it means you can focus on the object that’s important and a lot of

times you want that background to go out of focus because it’s a distraction. It’s

really true in life, right? We have to choose what’s most important because there is a

lot of distraction. So, you know, rather than just, you know, shooting wide open and making

it be out of focus, we need to choose really what our life’s journey is about and our

path. And it’s a beautiful metaphor to kinda see the parallel between the two. I think

when you find what inspires you and what your passion is, then you can find that path. And

once you find your path you’ll never use your way.

Mm. Speaking of finding what’s important, I know something that we share in common is

a deep love and a practice for gratitude and being grateful for our lives. And there is

a quote in the beginning of one of your talks from Neale Donald Walsch and it really speaks

to what I feel like is the heart is gratitude is “the struggle ends when gratitude begins.”

Tell us about gratitude, because I know it’s so important for your work and it’s helped

me in watching your films want to slow down as I’m walking down the street here in New

York and everything I’m doing. Even today I was thinking about this interview and coming

here and I particularly chose not to listen to a podcast or do anything and to take in

the beautiful scenery, even the concrete, and the people around me.

Right. Well, when you’re grateful and you have a lot of good things going on in your

head, as you described, walking here to work for this interview, there’s not a lot of

room for negativity.

Yeah.

I mean, that’s just a really simple idea and there’s always something you can be

grateful for. You know, you have your health, the fact you were walking, the fact that you’ve

got, like, 5 fingers.