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  • (phone ringing)

  • (phone ringing)

  • - [Taylor] Hello? - Hey Taylor, it's GaryVee.

  • You're on The #AskGaryVee Show.

  • - [Taylor] No way!

  • - Yes way. - [Taylor] Holy crap.

  • Okay.

  • - Where you from? - [Taylor] Yeah, sweet.

  • I'm from Buffalo, New York.

  • - I love it, are you a Bills fan?

  • (Taylor sighs)

  • - [Taylor] Unfortunately yes.

  • - I know you said unfortunately 'cause you're trying--

  • - [Taylor] We're not doing good.

  • - Well listen, neither are the Jets, don't worry.

  • So what's going on?

  • (Taylor laughs)

  • - [Taylor] Nothing much.

  • I basically was just dying to ask you a question.

  • Currently graduated college last May

  • and I'm trying to build my own business,

  • brand, hustle, all that kinda stuff.

  • My question for you is, and I'm probably sure

  • that a lot of people ask this--

  • - It's okay. - [Taylor] The same things.

  • - It's okay.

  • - [Taylor] How do you get over

  • the stump of you're graduating, and you feel

  • all this pressure 'cause you're trying

  • to build something but you're still so young.

  • But you wanna do the stuff and grow it big.

  • I'm just in a rut and I can't get out of it.

  • But I have a hustle and a drive

  • that I know I'll be able to build something.

  • But I'm just in this space that's not--

  • - I know where you're at.

  • - [Taylor] That's not allowing me to.

  • - Let me help you.

  • The space you're in is

  • probably the macro, micro issue.

  • So it's macro patience, micro speed, right?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah. - What do I mean by that?

  • You need to be patient as fuck, Taylor.

  • You're 22, 23-years-old.

  • Like what do you think's gonna happen overnight?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, I know.

  • - You need to be fast.

  • 7 A.M. to two in the morning every day.

  • But in the big picture, you need to realize nothing good

  • is gonna happen for the next six years.

  • - [Taylor] Okay.

  • Do you think that I should just

  • try every good idea that I think

  • I have and just go for it all out?

  • Or do you think I should stick with one thing at a time?

  • - I think the fact that you even

  • asked that question, that you should

  • taste flirting with a lot of different things

  • because you'll be crippled by the what if if you don't.

  • Even though that's not the perfect

  • formula to build the biggest short term wealth

  • because you should triple down on one thing

  • instead of being half pregnant on nine.

  • - [Taylor] Okay, I like that.

  • - Taylor, let me tell you something.

  • Let me ask you, the pressure, who do you?

  • Like are you trying to prove to yourself,

  • to your siblings, to your parents, to the world?

  • Who are you trying to prove that

  • you're successful to, or that this

  • was the right call, or you're gonna make it?

  • That's what you have to figure out.

  • - [Taylor] Hmm, that's a good question.

  • - What are you impatient for?

  • What's the problem?

  • You wanna buy a fuckin' Rolex?

  • What's the rush?

  • - [Taylor] I feel like I've known

  • that I'm mean to do something big.

  • - Me too. - [Taylor] And I grew up in

  • an entrepreneurial household. - Me too.

  • - [Taylor] So it's in my blood,

  • it's in my bones. - Good.

  • - [Taylor] I feel like I watch

  • all these other Millennials hitting

  • these huge I guess milestones in their life--

  • - What milestones?

  • - [Taylor] Then I'm sitting here.

  • - Let's break it down. How old are you?

  • - [Taylor] I'm 22, about to be 23.

  • - Okay, what milestone, please give

  • me a Millennial and the milestone

  • they achieved that makes you feel

  • like you're just sitting in fucking Buffalo?

  • - [Taylor] Well, I'm sitting in Buffalo,

  • which is one thing I'm not happy about.

  • But-- - That's right 'cause

  • it's home of the Buffalo Bills, piece of shit team.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah. (laughs)

  • - But before you go there, forget about sitting in Buffalo,

  • who's the Millennial and what's the milestone

  • that's making you feel like you're sitting there?

  • Go.

  • The truth, go.

  • - [Taylor] Well honestly there's people

  • on social media which definitely

  • is not always true-- - Who?

  • - [Taylor] But I watch, oh god, the only thing

  • on the spot I can think of is a Kardashian

  • or a Jenner which is lame, but. (laughing)

  • - Can we talk about this please?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, I feel like, sure.

  • - Like you're telling me that Kylie Jenner's fucking

  • trillion followers on Instagram

  • makes you feel like you're just sitting there?

  • - [Taylor] No, I feel like the fact

  • that she's already got a business

  • started that's super successful,

  • obviously that comes with her fame.

  • - Did you factor in the fact that

  • her sisters and mom architected

  • something for 10 years while she was a teenager that she

  • was able to walk directly into, that gave her a springboard?

  • That she had the financial capabilities

  • of deploying ungodly amounts of plastic surgery,

  • and all the other variable things that she's been able

  • to do to create that culture, and that financial benefit?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - Did you factor in that her mom

  • is a ninja architect of business and created that framework?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah and I feel like

  • not many people give them the credit for that.

  • - I agree. - [Taylor] I totally think that

  • they built this empire. - I agree.

  • But what the fuck does that have to do with you?

  • - [Taylor] It has nothing to do with me.

  • I know. - No shit.

  • Remember how I?

  • I don't know if you saw this where I said

  • stop looking at your friends' shit

  • or whatever the fuck I put on Instagram?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - I don't know if you saw it

  • or not but it doesn't matter.

  • Like you looking at the Kardashians

  • is the most ludicrous horseshit I've ever heard in my life.

  • (Taylor laughs)

  • - [Taylor] Well that's just first one that can pop into my

  • when you asked me. - Great.

  • Listen, we're here, we're here.

  • Give me another one.

  • - [Taylor] There's a guy in London.

  • I can't think of his name

  • at the top of my head. - I'm gonna stop,

  • I'm gonna stop you right now.

  • - [Taylor] Okay.

  • - Let me give you some, I was gonna say fatherly.

  • I guess my father was 40, now I'll give you some

  • massively older brother, uncle advice.

  • You ready? - [Taylor] (laughs) Okay, yes.

  • - Every second you spend thinking

  • about what somebody else has is taking

  • away from time that you could create something for yourself.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - You're losing.

  • You're losing 'cause you're laying

  • in your bed looking at somebody's fucking

  • glamorous photoshopped picture of them doing something cool.

  • You're envious, and you're jealous,

  • and you're impatient, and it's crippling your upside.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah 'cause that's where

  • I wanna be and I know I'm not there yet.

  • - You haven't done shit.

  • - [Taylor] I know.

  • - So go do shit that actually gets you there

  • so that you earn it instead of like

  • you dwelling that you're not there

  • and hoping that's something's gonna happen.

  • I don't know what's going through your mind.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah. Well I guess I'm hustling on the side

  • but I don't think I'm doing enough I guess.

  • - You definitely aren't doing enough

  • if you have enough time to fucking

  • consume the content of a Kardashian

  • and some boy in London.

  • - [Taylor] That's true. (laughs)

  • - Taylor, listen to me.

  • Taylor, listen.

  • You've gotta deploy patience and you gotta love the process.

  • I'm addicted to the process of the battle scars,

  • the setbacks, the lack of, you know.

  • Taylor, I gave up my entire 20s, all of 'em.

  • Imagine not doing anything fun or going anywhere

  • for the next eight years, including Saturday and Sunday.

  • That's what I did from 22 to 30.

  • Every day I spent 15 hours a day

  • in a liquor store, thought about a liquor store,

  • built a liquor store, sold wine.

  • Like spent every day.

  • Like this last weekend, don't lie to me Taylor,

  • what did you do this last weekend?

  • What did you do fuckin' Saturday and Sunday?

  • Tell me the truth, don't bullshit me.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, no bullshit, I'm helping my

  • mom right now on digital media and branding for her company.

  • - Lovely.

  • - [Taylor] So I had a marketing meeting--

  • - Lovely. - With one of

  • the people doing that. - Love you.

  • - [Taylor] Then I also have coming up--

  • - How much time did you have for yourself

  • on Saturday and Sunday that was not working every minute?

  • Tell me the truth.

  • - [Taylor] A lot, a lot. - I know.

  • So that's the punchline, right?

  • Now imagine this. - Yeah.

  • - When I tell you this.

  • You spent more downtime on not your career

  • this weekend than I did in my entire 20s combined.

  • - [Taylor] Oh shit, okay.

  • (Andy chuckling)

  • That put things into perspective.

  • - I think so.

  • - [Taylor] Awesome.

  • - I think so too.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, I need to just get to it.

  • - Taylor, you need to do me a huge favor.

  • If you really wanna win and you wanna come

  • to New York in eight years,

  • and shake my hand, here's what you need to do.

  • You need to stop giving a shit

  • about what anybody else has and realize

  • that if you put your head down

  • and just work for the next 10 years,

  • no glamor, no new fucking car, suitcase,

  • jewelry, trip, event, no Coachella,

  • no fucking new fucking sneakers.

  • Like fuckin' work, you will have it.

  • Every time you care about one

  • of the things I just mentioned,

  • it will slow down your process of having it.

  • - [Taylor] Okay so in less than eight years

  • when I'm a millionaire by 25, I'll come shake your hand.

  • - I promise you that statement

  • itself made me 100% guarantee that you won't.

  • - [Taylor] No! - Yes.

  • Yes, that's how this works.

  • Being a millionaire at 25 when you're 22,

  • and you're dick shit, and haven't even started

  • is inconceivable unless you fuckin' hit the lotto.

  • What's the romance? - [Taylor] Hmm, okay.

  • - What's the romance?

  • I wanna make, you know how everybody says,

  • "GaryVee, when are you gonna buy the Jets?

  • "In two years?" and then I reply 20 years

  • I'm a romantic about the journey

  • and the process which is why I'm actually gonna pull it off.

  • You're trying to be a millionaire by 25.

  • How, Taylor?

  • - [Taylor] It's just a goal I've always had.

  • - Why? - [Taylor] Right now with what

  • I'm doing I guess it's not.

  • - That's right, it's an arbitrary

  • bullshit thing that means nothing.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - Wouldn't you rather guarantee

  • millionairship by 36 than

  • by doing long term marathon running

  • versus doing a bunch of bullshit sprints

  • that guarantees never having it?

  • And I promise you,

  • a funny thing happens to your self-esteem

  • when you're 31 and not a millionaire

  • because you've been chasing fast fucking cash,

  • and you're now six years removed from not hitting your goal.

  • Your self-esteem starts fuckin' with your head.

  • - [Taylor] Mhmmm, yeah.

  • - Listen carefully. - [Taylor] I agree.

  • - I wanna buy the New York Jets

  • but when I clarify it to everybody,

  • I want the process of trying to buy

  • the New York Jets more than buying the New York Jets.

  • Understand?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • 'Cause ultimately that's the end goal

  • but there's a process behind that.

  • - You have to understand, I don't give

  • a fuck about the end goal.

  • I care about the process, the enjoyment of doing it.

  • You're not enjoying yourself trying

  • to get to a million bucks over the next three years.

  • - [Taylor] No. (laughs)

  • You're right.

  • - Oh I know I'm right.

  • I'm just sticking on this right now

  • because I feel like we've gone into this deep enough

  • that I might as well hold on for a couple more minutes

  • to see if I can actually pull you through

  • instead of you just being on this high

  • of practicality for 36 hours, and then going back

  • to Instagram bullshit in 48 hours.

  • - [Taylor] I'm gonna deactivate that shit. (laughs)

  • - No, you need to learn to discipline,

  • to be able to put it in the proper bucket.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • I just feel like I hold myself

  • at this pedestal only it's crippling myself

  • 'cause I'm not actually doing the things to get there.

  • - Of course so you're playing a fake narrative

  • instead of putting in the actual work

  • that's needed to actually pull it off.

  • Wishing instead of executing.

  • Then what's happen is you're living

  • a fake world to yourself, but you know it,

  • which then changes your behavior

  • in the way you interact with others.

  • - [Taylor] That's true.

  • - I know.

  • Like for all my bravado now, I was real quiet in my 20s.

  • People made of me, like, "You work

  • "in your dad's liquor store?

  • "I'm on Wall Street making a 100,000.

  • "I got a BMW."

  • I'm like, "That's nice, Pat."

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - Do you understand the level

  • of disrespect I have for Pat?

  • Do you understand the level

  • of disrespect I have for all those

  • 20, 30, 40, 50-year-olds flashing shit

  • on fuckin' Instagram with short term moves?

  • I can't wait for the fucking world to melt.

  • I can't wait for all these bullshit people

  • to get fuckin' hosed out when the economy gets shit.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah it's 'cause they're short term

  • affording these things that are flashy

  • but in the long term, it's not sustainable

  • for what they're doing right now.

  • - Yeah but meanwhile, you're admiring the fuck out of them.

  • - [Taylor] I know, it's a problem.

  • - No shit, Taylor. - [Taylor] It's really bad.

  • - Taylor, you need to start lovin' the process,

  • and the work, and the grind.

  • You need to start respecting people

  • that are like sleeping with like four roommates

  • and buying their t-shirts at Walmart.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, you know what?

  • I feel like I need that wake up.

  • But I feel like I need to hit

  • rock bottom and have that wake up.

  • I'm too comfortable right now.

  • It's annoying the shit out of me.

  • - I don't think so.

  • I think you're saying you need

  • to hit rock bottom because it buys

  • you more time to bullshit like you are right now.

  • - [Taylor] Hmm, I never thought of that.

  • - You know what I mean?

  • Like you know it's not working.

  • You're just saying, by the way,

  • let me go complete left field on you.

  • You're a 22-year-old girl, woman.

  • Like it's okay to enjoy a little bit now too.

  • You've heard me say regrets, I don't know

  • how deep you know my content, but once

  • in a blue moon when people ask me

  • the advice for 25-year-old Gary,

  • the answer is go have fun, asshole.

  • It would've been okay to go to Vegas,

  • or Acapulco, or like do some dumb shit.

  • Do you know what I mean?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • I think I've had my fun in college though

  • and now I feel like it's time to work.

  • - No, no.

  • That's the bullshit PR version Taylor.

  • The reality Taylor is still fuckin' in that zone.

  • - [Taylor] Hmm.

  • Yeah.

  • - Don't beat yourself up.

  • Don't hold yourself accountable

  • to arbitrary bullshit fantasies.

  • Just put in work and enjoy that.

  • Enjoy eating shit, and dirt, and bleeding,

  • and the grind, and don't give a fuck

  • about what anybody else thinks,

  • why you haven't done it, why are you doing that.

  • Have four jobs.

  • Fuckin' Wendys, Walmart, your side hustle.

  • Work, train, learn.

  • Don't think you're a digital expert

  • just because you're 22 and you have an Instagram account.

  • Show me how much fuckin' shit you've sold

  • with your digital social media skills.

  • - [Taylor] Okay.

  • - Do you understand?

  • - [Taylor] No, I do. Yeah.

  • - You're just completely in the wrong game

  • and I'm holding you onto this because you and 99%

  • of the people that are watching are playing the same game.

  • - [Taylor] I know which is why

  • I wanted to ask the question.

  • - But you're look-- - [Taylor] I can't--

  • - But you're-- - [Taylor] I'm obviously

  • not the only one.

  • - No, you're the majority and the massive majority.

  • The question is, you just need to understand the following.

  • You can trick losers, you're not tricking me.

  • - [Taylor] Good 'cause I want honest answers.

  • - You don't need my honest answer.

  • You know you're not tricking yourself either.

  • None of us are tricking ourselves.

  • - [Taylor] No. - I just wanna remind you

  • that you might be able to trick

  • your Uncle Hal, and you might be able to trick

  • your girlfriend that was in your fucking college with you.

  • But you're not tricking the winner when you're bullshitting.

  • Got it? - [Taylor] Got it.

  • - So even if you're posturing, and pandering,

  • and PR-ing yourself, no winner thinks you're winning.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, 'cause I'm not. - I know.

  • Work.

  • That's the answer to all these questions.

  • - [Taylor] Got it. - Work, learn things,

  • do stuff, try to sell shit, learn how to make money.

  • Work.

  • - [Taylor] Alright, I will.

  • - Was this good?

  • - [Taylor] Awesome. Thank you so much.

  • - Can you do me a huge favor? - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - Can you email me in 30 days, and don't bullshit me,

  • what's your Twitter handle or Instagram?

  • - [Taylor] I don't-- - What's your

  • Instagram handle? - That's fine.

  • - [Taylor] Instagram, it's @TheFabulousJourney.

  • - @TheFabulousJourney.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - Me, and my whole team, and the entire

  • VaynerNation is watching.

  • - [Taylor] Oh shit, okay.

  • Got it.

  • - I'm gonna smoke you out of your bullshit.

  • - [Taylor] (laughs) Okay.

  • - Everybody's watching.

  • - [Taylor] Okay, I got it.

  • - Do you understand?

  • - [Taylor] Yeah.

  • - I like your blue dress.

  • - [Taylor] (laughs) Thank you, I got it on sale.

  • - I like that answer.

  • That's the best thing you said all fuckin' day.

  • That's the best thing you said this whole time.

  • Listen, slow and steady wins the race.

  • You're only competing with yourself.

  • - [Taylor] Okay.

  • - Got it?

  • - [Taylor] Got it.

  • - Nobody else defines you.

  • Not me, not everybody watching,

  • not your mom, not the fucking Kardashians, you.

  • - [Taylor] Got it.

  • - You can grind and be patient for 10 years

  • every day and still be nine years younger than me

  • and I would trade places with you.

  • That's how amazing having time on your side is.

  • - [Taylor] Yeah, time's everything.

  • - So use it.

  • - [Taylor] I will.

  • - Good, see ya.

  • - [Taylor] Thank you - You're welcome.

  • (sighs)

  • You keep asking questions,

  • I'll keep answering them.

  • (rap music)

(phone ringing)

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