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- Hey everybody, Cory from Aquarium Co-Op.
Today, we're visiting Dean's fish room
and let's go ahead and get started.
So, let's start, let's just start here.
We'll start here.
And so, this rack, I guess,
it's kind of cramped in this room, if you guys can't tell.
How big is it, Dean?
- [Dean] It's, like 96 square feet.
- [Cory] 96 square feet. - [Dean] It's small.
- [Cory] And you're gonna see, I guess,
what Dean can pull off in, you know,
it's not quite 10 by 10, but, you know,
it's a jail cell, right? (laughs)
- [Dean] Pretty much, yeah.
- [Cory] Alright, so, got some discus here,
and you were telling me that, what,
they ate their eggs this morning or something like that?
- [Dean] Yeah, there's two pairs that,
these ones had fry.
They are getting better and better at raising.
They're still really young, so, I expect, you know,
another six months, they'll start--
- [Cory] And how old are they would you say?
- [Dean] I would guess that those are just about a year old.
- [Cory] 'Cause this thing, you know, I'm assuming this is
the male here-- - [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Is like bigger than my hand type of deal,
so young seems ...
Well fed, but maybe young, I guess.
- [Dean] Yeah, he should get another inch and a half.
She should get another inch.
They should both get another inch and a half.
- [Cory] And then, are these, these ones here the same--
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Like, you got 'em at the same time?
- [Dean] Yeah, actually, initially,
I bought the two females as a pair.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] And they kept laying eggs,
and I said, "Well, okay, but the eggs aren't viable."
And then one day, I saw both of them laying eggs.
- [Cory] Well, that'll tell you.
- [Dean] So, I realized they were two females,
so then, I went out and shopped for two more males.
- [Cory] And so, did you already buy them big,
or you can just spot 'em when they're young
what you think are male?
- [Dean] I bought 'em about this size.
- [Cory] Okay.
And how did you determine male at that size?
Like, just by observing behavior, or?
- [Dean] Behavior, the look.
You can obviously tell this is the male.
He has the great big bulk.
And also, if you get a good look at the breeding tube,
but you have to get really close.
- [Cory] Right, right, right.
- [Dean] The males are always slanted and pointed forward.
- [Cory] And pointing forward?
- [Dean] Or, one way.
Pointing one way.
Yeah, they should be pointed forward.
Slanted and pointing forward, the females are blunt.
I actually saw that male spawning with another female,
so I took him.
- [Cory] Hmm, and was the female just not very good?
'Cause I would have been--
- [Dean] I already had the female.
- [Cory] I would have been tempted to be like,
"I'll take the female, too,"
'Cause it's, they were compatible,
in my opinion, or whatever.
- [Dean] No, I already had the female.
I didn't have, I can't dedicate anymore tank space to that.
- [Cory] Sure, and so, these down here.
What about these discus?
- [Dean] Those? - [Cory] What are these?
- [Dean] Well, my daughter kind of wanted me
to breed some discus,
so one of the things that I've learned is
you can't miss any feedings with a lot of fry.
So, this is a spawn that I had pulled and raised
and then ended up going away for the weekend
and came back and there was four left alive.
- [Cory] I see.
- [Dean] So, those are the four that made it.
The rest--
- [Cory] And they get their own 20 gallon
while they raise up, huh?
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] How old are those right there, roughly?
- [Dean] Those are about
two and a half, three months old.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] And they don't have the tank by themselves.
There's mega clown plecos in there.
- [Cory] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- [Dean] They just happen to be about the same temperature.
- [Cory] I'm gonna have to get in closer to get those
mega clown plecos.
Any activity out of those yet?
- [Dean] I don't think they're big enough yet.
- [Cory] True, yeah, now that I think about it.
Yeah, they're like four inches or so, yeah.
And then, down here.
What's going on down here?
- [Dean] That's a school of aspidoras.
Can't remember the--
- [Cory] I remember they call them the six ray
is the common name, I think.
The six ray.
But, I don't, I don't remember the--
- [Dean] I started initially with three of these;
two males and a female.
These are all my own offspring.
- [Cory] Nice.
- [Dean] They will spawn more in the fall for me
than this time of year.
- [Cory] And you find, like, when the pressure drops
and things that actually do that, or--
- [Dean] Yes.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] I can induce them, if I know a big storm's coming,
I do a couple water changes the few days before.
They will spawn, but not very many viable eggs.
- [Cory] Nice.
- [Dean] And you'll see these scattered
through a lot of my tanks,
'cause I have had many babies that I--
- [Cory] Looks like we have the Finnex light,
the Stingray, is that what we're--
- [Dean] Yeah, almost every tank in here's
lit by the Stingray.
Some of 'em, it's right down on the tank.
Most of them, it's up above
so it's out of my way all the time.
- [Cory] Right?
Everything's so uniform.
That's what I'm jealous of, you know?
Even stuff's labeled.
I mean, who labels stuff?
Geez.
- [Dean] That's just so I remember.
(laughter)
- [Cory] Fair enough.
I guess on this rack, we can go,
if we can go up tall now.
So, up tall, let's go to this top right tank.
So, obviously, rainbow fish
and they're the Wapoga red lasers.
And, where, oh, yeah.
I was gonna ask you where you got 'em.
I think you got 'em from me, right?
- [Dean] I got those from you, yeah.
And there are eggs in the mop right now.
I don't know if you can zoom in close enough to get 'em.
- [Cory] Ooh, that'll be tough.
I don't know.
- [Dean] Probably not.
- [Cory] That's something I'll have to look at the computer
and see if it actually came out or not.
- [Dean] What I normally do is I will leave that mop in
until I see babies swimming on the surface
and then I'll take the mop out and hatch.
- [Cory] Do you rescue the babies also?
- [Dean] I try to, I try to.
'Cause the parents, they will eat them.
- [Cory] Well, yeah, that's what I was--
- [Dean] And if you catch them on the first day,
there's only a couple babies
and then they'll usually hatch out
for about eight to 10 days straight.
- [Cory] Okay.
It looks like here that,
are all of these tanks running canister filters?
Is that what's going on, in addition, or ...
- [Dean] This rack that you're looking at
I want to all run canisters, also.
Eventually, I will switch them all to,
I have enough Eheims now.
I got a couple used at the swap meet.
So, I'm going to switch them all to Eheims eventually.
And that's just, it's more so for water flow
than filtration.
I think the sponge filtration is fine,
but I wanted more water flow.
- [Cory] And then, I think this is cool.
What temperature are you running your discus
and then, I want you to talk about these heaters.
- [Dean] The discus are 84 degrees.
This one's 84.
This is about 78, the catfish.
I believe these are in the 82 range, the rainbows.
- [Cory] And, do you turn, are you,
so, are you using the heater to make them 82
or is it because they're so high in the room,
they're naturally--
- [Dean] No, all the tanks are 82,
'cause we're in my basement
and it tends to stay about 65 degrees year round in here.
- [Cory] Okay, so the heaters are doing that for them?
- [Dean] Yeah. - [Cory] Yeah, okay.
- [Dean] Yeah.
If I don't heat them,
actually, the unheated tank in here will run about
68, 70 degrees all the time.
- [Cory] And then, next door, it looks like you've got
the praecox rainbows, so, the sister species.
- [Dean] Yep, those are always one of my favorite ones.
Easy to sell, easy to breed.
Same thing goes, when I see fry on the top,
I'll pull the mop, start hatching them.
- [Cory] So, I think it's, you know,
we've kinda shown this first little rack.
There's not an inch of wasted space, by the way.
You guys know I'm not the skinniest man.
I can barely walk through this door.
But, every inch of space is utilized.
So, we've seen, you know, I guess all of these tanks,
for the most part, besides that discus tank,
are kind of breeding tanks.
And then, we'll show you, you know, in my opinion,
some of the impressive part,
the fry tanks.
There's fry everywhere in here.
And, so like, here, these are, which ones?
Theses are the praecox,
so that's ones we were just talking about.
And is this, like, how many mops make this?
- [Dean] That's one.
- [Cory] One mop made that?
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Wow.
- [Dean] But, you can see that they hatch
over a period of about 10 days,
and I would guess at a fish farm,
these would be sized and put together by size.
- [Cory] Sure, so that way they don't outcompete
and things like that.
- [Dean] But, I don't have room to do that,
so these will outcompete a little bit,
but, eventually, as I net 'em to sell them or whatever,
net the bigger ones, the other ones will catch up.
- [Cory] And how many do you think are in there?
'Cause that seems like way more than one spawn.
Like, I would have guessed, like, 60.
But, that seems like way more than what's in there.
- [Dean] Yeah, I would say there's probably
near 100 in there, maybe.
- [Cory] And it looks like you're running
the Matten sponge filters in the back?
- [Dean] All the tanks on this level are Matten,
and I really like them.
The only disadvantage is
they create such a current right here,
because it's spraying forward all the time.
So, if the fish get up here, you can just see 'em,
they get blown all over the place.
Or like the little guys, you can really see them.
These are baby angels.
This is two spawns.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] They're five days apart.
One was a really small spawn.
The other was a really big spawn.
And I just decided to put 'em all together.
- [Cory] And how long will you leave this many fry
in this 10 gallon like this?
- [Dean] Until they get about this size.
They'll outgrow it.
There's not as many fry in here, but pea size.
Pea size, they're ready to move.
- [Cory] And these are the super red angels?
- [Dean] Yes.
- [Cory] Is that what these are?
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] We'll show those on another rack comin' up.
But, yeah and then,
so I guess while we're on this row here.
- [Dean] Those are baby rams,
probably 100 or so in there.
- [Cory] 100 German Blue rams in a 10 gallon.
- [Dean] A relatively small spawn.
Usually if you get up to about 200 or 300 in a spawn.
- [Cory] And it looks like,
yeah we do run heaters into these tanks,
and then how often do you water changing in this density?
- [Dean] Twice a week,
about half the tank.
- [Cory] Okay, that's more dedication than I have.
I automate, which we'll have to talk about.
So, this is, you know,
the guts of this fish room, right there.
There's a lot of gadgets goin' on right there
to make this happen, but we'll go over that in a bit.
Then here, we can probably do a lot of teaching for me,
'cause I know these are, you know,
different grades of crystal shrimp and stuff like that.
- [Dean] All of the,
these are the PRL, pure red lines, is what they call them,
crystal red shrimp.
You'll see if you catch this little one on the sides,
solid white.
- [Cory] Oh, wow.
- [Dean] There's a few solid whites
that are coming out of there.
- [Cory] And is solid white more sought after?
- [Dean] Much more desirable, I mean right now--
- [Cory] Yeah, I don't know if I've seen a solid white one.
- [Dean] Or the ones like the one on the very back there,
which has the red around the head,
and pretty much a little white dot on the tail.
- [Cory] Yeah.
- [Dean] These have struggled,
but they're starting to come back now.
They haven't produced a lot of females for me,
and these are very similar,
just two different tanks of pretty much the same.
- [Cory] So, one thing I'm noticing,
is that it appears like you'll let algae grow
on the side of these tanks, but not of these.
Or, is it naturally that ....
- [Dean] No, it's ...
I only scrape the front.
These, every time I move the fry out, I scrub the tank.
- [Cory] Wow, that seems like a lot of work.
- [Dean] It takes like,
it takes like 30 seconds.
Scrub it, let it settle.
Drain all of the water.
- [Cory] Okay, cause I was, in my mind,
I was thinking you were taking to the sink to scrub it out.
- [Dean] No, I do it right here.
I just use a plastic, like a dish brush.
Just scrub it really quick.
I drain it all the way.
If I'm gonna, if I'm moving fry from another system,
I'll put in a third of their water from that other system.
They get a two-thirds water change
when I fill it back up.
Then the heaters, I'll plug in
so one switch will turn the whole bank of heaters on.
So, I can just turn 'em off
- [Cory] Oh, yeah.
- [Dean] At the power strip.
- [Cory] Looks like, you know,
if we zoom in on these heaters here,
looks like they're mostly at 82-83,
well this one's 85.
- [Dean] Yeah, and actually--
- [Cory] The rams I guess.
- [Dean] The numbers aren't super accurate.
- [Cory] Oh, calibration, yeah.
- [Dean] No of 'em come perfectly calibrated.
- [Cory] What have we got goin' down low?
This is my nightmare here.
These tanks are on the floor.
- [Dean] These are--
- [Cory] I gotta get on my hands and knees.
- [Dean] I literally have to put a water pump in these
to change 'em.
But, it's pretty automated.
It just, it's ready to go.
- [Cory] Just drop it in.
- [Dean] Just drop it in.
Set this in a bucket or a this case set it in the drain.
Plug it in, and it's draining.
This is just a power head.
This tank is just a catch-all tank.
It's where they're not breeding,
they're extra fish, they're extra plants.
- [Cory] It looks like rasboras and danios mostly.
- [Dean] Yeah, those are dither fish.
There's a lot of dwarf cichlids in there.
They hide.
- [Cory] Oh yeah, I can see like one hiding
behind that pot back there.
- [Dean] Right.
There'd be one or two under here.
- [Cory] Oh yeah.
- [Dean] So it's just ...
- [Cory] Everything's gotta live somewhere, I guess.
- [Dean] Yeah, don't have a lot of room.
- [Cory] That tank's impressive
- [Dean] These are all F1s from wild caught borelli.
- [Cory] Yeah, ca-sig-a-rella, yeah.
- [Dean] And it's from a certain river drainage.
I can't remember the name of it right now, but--
- [Cory] How many are there?
'Cause there's a lot!
- [Dean] There's about 180, last time I,
when I moved them there, there was 180.
And I've only seen one casualty since I moved 'em.
- [Cory] That's a pretty good rate.
- [Dean] They get probably a
twice a week water change too.
I just pump it into the bucket.
- [Cory] Sure.
Yeah, then we've got,
oh, get up here off the floor.
I'm gettin' too old for the floor tanks.
- [Dean] Yeah, me too.
- [Cory] So, some sterbai corys here, it looks like.
- [Dean] Settin' up, tryin' to get them to spawn,
'cause I'd like to have baby corys
in the bottom of my fry tanks to clean up the mess.
It really keeps the bottom of the tanks clean.
- [Cory] Well, all the tanks, you know,
look very clean, complete opposite of my fish room.
I'm the mole master.
- [Dean] Right.
- [Cory] And then, just unlimited female, the pistos?
- [Dean] Yeah, pretty much all female,
a couple that had their fins burned off.
- [Cory] Yeah?
- [Dean] See this one?
That was in a unfortunate situation that happened
for a couple weeks while I was gone.
- [Cory] Mm-hmm.
- [Dean] But they would still be okay for breeders.
- [Cory] Right, cause it's not genetic.
- [Dean] It's not genetic, yeah.
It was environmental.
- [Cory] And then--
- [Dean] I don't know if these are gonna come out.
- [Cory] I can see--
- [Dean] She's back under there pokin' out.
- [Cory] I can see the male, just a glare.
If we can get it on.
- [Dean] I don't know if you're gonna get to see her.
- [Cory] Well, I can--
- [Dean] Oh, there you go.
- [Cory] Yeah, zoom in on her,
but these are the pelvicachromis kribensis,
and the taeniatus, or it's like the yellow form.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] And then, did you say you,
do you have fry on these?
- [Dean] Yeah, I do have fry on these.
- [Cory] Okay, we'll show that, like the next racks,
may be more amazing than this rack,
so we'll save that suspense.
And then, must be a pair of Apistogramma?
- [Dean] Yeah, cacatuoides, the orange flash ones.
- [Cory] Oh, there we go, right in that cave.
- [Dean] Man, I'll put this here so you can step up.
- [Cory] Alright, now we're goin' to the ceiling.
- [Dean] Watch your head.
- [Cory] Oh, yes, that's a--
- [Dean] You have no idea how many times I've whacked it.
- [Cory] That's how you got so smart,
'cause you've whacked your head on that.
You accomplished the impossible.
There's four rows of tanks.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Like that's everyone's dream, right?
Is a fourth row,
but we did have to get on our knees
and on a ladder, so ...
(clicking)
Oh yeah, now I remember what you have up here.
- [Dean] Are they out?
- [Cory] They are, they are, totally.
So, these are the claro plecos
- [Dean] Yeah, and it's interesting,
I just switched how that wood was set up yesterday.
- [Cory] Yeah?
- [Dean] I used to have it just leaning up in the back,
and yesterday decided to lift it up off of the,
and put it on top of those,
and all of a sudden, they've been out all the time.
- [Cory] Yeah, and they're hanging out underneath it.
- [Dean] And one of them looked like it went
in one of the spawning caves.
- [Cory] Yeah, there it is.
- [Dean] We'll see.
- [Cory] See, that's what happens
when you put a tank on the ceiling.
It get's so dirty like this.
I think you can actually see they went poop once.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Compared to all those other tanks
that are immaculate.
But, the claro pleco is the true, true dwarf bristlenose
and you've probably seen those in my fish room, as well,
but I'm sure, I'm sure Dean will beat me to breeding them,
'cause he just puts in way more effort than I do.
And then, using the polycarbonate tops?
- [Dean] Yeah, on some tanks.
- [Cory] Oh, yeah, I didn't realize that some were in glass.
Yeah, down below is glass, and that's--
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] If you saw, or have seen these knobs before,
I stole 'em from Dean.
That's where I learned to grab those knobs.
Oh, you should show them the dimmer.
- [Dean] Oh, okay.
Let's see, which is the best one to video?
Probably that one.
So--
- [Cory] These are all the Finnex.
- [Dean] All Finnex lights.
I cut the cords, so I voided my warranty.
And, we'll just trace this cord,
we can trace it around back
and up to this junction box right here.
- [Cory] That looks safe with water. (laughs)
- [Dean] Yeah, it's fine, it's only 12 volts.
So, half of that's positive, half's negative,
and that comes over to here,
where a power supply,
one power supply that does all of these lights,
comes in to the dimmer
and then it goes to the various things.
So, I can just turn all the lights all the way down to off
and all the way back up to bright.
- [Cory] That's pretty handy.
- [Dean] I tend to run them about
a little less than half way.
- [Cory] And why is that?
- [Dean] I don't like algae.
And I'm not really in the plant growing kind of mode here.
- [Cory] You're a fish guy, not a plant guy.
- So, for the video, they're all up full.
So, I did that.
There's three dimmers in here.
One on this rack, one on that rack, one on the back rack.
- [Cory] And so, yeah, if you guys saw
the Aquarium Co-op video on the dimming,
I stole that idea from Dean here.
Dean's where I get all my good ideas.
So, we're just raiding his fish room
for all the good ideas today.
- [Dean] Yeah, and so this is just a bigger dimmer.
The small dimmer is up on the top of this 20.
But, it's on, you won't be able to see it without a ladder.
- [Cory] But, I guess, let's go into the next rack here
and this is, I love this, because everything is so,
like, every rack has been different, so far.
Like this one is literally a baking rack.
- Yeah, but it's,
it's a NSF rack, so that means it's kitchen
and it's designed for 3,000 pounds.
So, it freaked me out a little bit because
what a lot of people can't see in this fish room
is behind this rack,
there's a four foot piece of paneling that hinges out.
That's where my water heater is.
- [Cory] I see.
- So, if there's ever any problem,
this rack has to move to fix the water heater.
The furnace to the house sits behind this paneling,
and this just pulls out and slides that way.
So, I had to work that into, you know, the whole
the whole room.
- [Cory] Yeah.
- [Dean] So, this rack I wanted to be,
I was, at first, gonna leave it on the wheels,
but I figured they would get flat spots
and then I wouldn't be able to roll it anyway.
- [Cory] Right.
- [Dean] So, I just decided if
I ever have to get in the furnace,
put tanks here that are easy to move out.
Fives are easy, the 15 would be easy.
This would be a little tough, but we could move it out.
- [Cory] So let's just start on, in my opinion,
the coolest thing here, and that is this,
I don't even know what to call it.
Fry raising station?
- [Dean] It's the fry system, yeah.
- [Cory] So, it's, you know, a lot of things going on here.
- [Dean] Yeah, you're lookin' at a 20 long.
- [Cory] With sponges in it, apparently.
- [Dean] Yeah, it doesn't really need
the extra sponge filters,
but I always have them in case I have one when I need one.
- [Cory] Makes sense.
- [Dean] So, they're always cycled sponges.
It's got a heater in it
and the heart of it is, kind of, the powerhead water pump,
whatever you want to call it,
and the sponge that is the blue.
- [Cory] Okay, fine sponge, yeah.
- [Dean] So, that is pushing water up to here,
through the PVC,
where these valves control the water going into the trays.
And there's all sorts of various trays.
These trays here are actually ones that I used 30 years ago.
- [Cory] That means you're at least 30 years old.
- [Dean] At least, yeah.
And, we'll get a,
we'll get a close up of one of them right here.
So, this was a microwave dinner tray.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] And, compared to today's,
this is very strong plastic.
- [Cory] Well, 30 years ago, it was built to last, right?
We didn't know plastic was totally gonna kill us.
- [Dean] So, I cut a hole, I glued a screen,
the screen was made,
well, 30 years ago, was made from my wife's nylons.
Now, it is made from a piece of coffee filter.
So, it's super fine mesh.
Just glued it on with PVC glue
and it seems to be holding super strong.
It floats in a PVC thing
that, this is glued.
It's not just pushed together,
'cause I pushed 'em together,
and eventually, they--
- [Cory] Yeah, they sink-- - [Dean] Fill with water.
- [Cory] And you got a problem, yeah.
- [Dean] The little rings are just so--
- [Cory] That's my favorite design right there.
- [Dean] I can hold 'em in place.
- [Cory] Yeah, he's got these little pins.
- [Dean] That you just drop through.
- [Cory] If you were to take these two pins out,
these rafts kind of leave the dock, so to speak.
- [Dean] Right, they could move around, yeah.
- [Cory] So, what do we have,
so we've got, looks like we've got air coming in,
and we've got water dripping in,
but what fry are we lookin' at here?
- [Dean] Okay, so, these are rams, a small group.
- [Cory] Okay, german blue rams?
- [Dean] Yeah, and these are the orange laser cories.
- [Cory] Yep, which you guys have probably seen,
I did a video on harvesting them for him.
- [Dean] Right.
These are the pelvicachromis--
- [Cory] The taeniatus ones-- - [Dean] Yeah, whatever.
- [Cory] The yellow form ones.
- [Dean] And a kind of an unsuccessful hatch here
of angels.
- [Cory] Yeah, not that many in there.
- [Dean] No, those'll probably get mixed
with something else eventually.
- [Cory] And so, like, that one, I noticed,
doesn't have air in it.
Is that, any reason why, or--
- [Dean] Just so I could show you what I did with the air.
So, this is a zip tie that is designed for a screw.
- [Cory] Right, yeah.
- [Dean] It just happens that the rigid airline tubing
slides in it perfectly.
- [Cory] Well, that's the million dollar secret right there.
- [Dean] And I can just turn them and put them in here.
The air is really only to break up the biofilm.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] It's unnecessary.
I don't think it's necessary, except for that,
because when I'm feeding these,
all the brine shrimp, the little tiny powdered food,
it gets a lot of biofilm and it will seal off the top,
so the air is, that's all it's really for.
And it's just designed, you know,
I can swing them out of the way, swing them back in.
Can pretty much move them wherever I want.
- [Cory] But, yeah, I mean, so one 20 long,
and we have hundreds of fry from four different species,
you know, maximising your three square feet
out of your less than hundred square feet.
- [Dean] Right.
There's a few stragglers in the bottom.
Some catfish.
I think there's a couple early spawns.
When they first spawned, there was only three babies.
I think they're in the bottom down--
- [Cory] Yeah, I think I, yeah.
I see the reflection of them hiding out.
- [Dean] That's mainly, the bottom always stays clean
and, you know, really, the only maintenance I do in here
is I stick the siphon in and siphon half the water down,
and I clean the prefilter on,
and this is just for flow.
It really keeps that bottom clean.
- [Cory] That makes sense.
- [Dean] 'Cause I don't have anything
other than that down there.
- [Cory] And so what happens, like,
I'm seeing over here, we've got,
like, a little hang on tank,
and then more things going on?
- [Dean] Oh, yeah, this.
I ran out of space.
- [Cory] Okay, 'cause I was gonna say, like,
what happens when you need to put more fry in here?
Where do these go from here?
- [Dean] So, this is another hatch of,
of baby rams.
And they're just, they'll probably
be free-swimming in two days.
- [Cory] And how many you think are in that batch?
- [Dean] I haven't really determined,
but there was at least 300 eggs.
- [Cory] Wow.
'Cause it doesn't look like that many, but they're so small.
- [Dean] No, they're clustered around
and under the rock, though.
I have to be really careful.
If I move the rock right now, it would crush them.
- [Cory] Oh.
- [Dean] So, I gotta wait til they're free-swimming
and then I can grab the rock.
- [Cory] I see, so what we were seeing is like
the already hatched out egg casings.
- [Dean] Right, right.
- [Cory] And then, looks like you have
the blue container here.
- [Dean] That's Methylene blue.
It's about a gallon.
I think it's a vase.
- [Cory] Did you steal it from your wife
or did you buy it for fish?
- [Dean] I actually bought it.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] And there's angels on here.
Angel eggs, and they are wiggling right now.
- [Cory] See where I can zoom in.
Yep, you can see that.
- [Dean] In the back, there's a small batch of angels.
It's more, a lot more of them fungused.
We'll get to where I have four pairs
and kinda determining which pair's
the most viable right now.
- [Cory] Yeah, 'cause dedicating that much space to that,
that's half your fish room almost over here.
- [Dean] Right.
- [Cory] Then looks like we've got, what,
orange flash in here?
- [Dean] Yep, mmhmm.
- [Cory] And then--
- [Dean] There's some fry in with them right now.
- [Cory] I see that.
Will she stay yellow while there's fry in there--
- [Dean] Yes.
- [Cory] Or is she ready to breed again?
- [Dean] She actually has spawned again
before I had a chance to get those fry out
and they were cannibalized by the male.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] So, you can see her picking on those fry
'cause she want's them outta there.
- [Cory] And so, does that mean one day
you're gonna get in and remove 'em then?
- [Dean] Oh, yeah, have too, soon.
Probably this coming week.
- [Cory] I see.
- [Dean] And then, I have to find a place to put them.
- [Cory] And then it looks like
there's a barrier between this tank.
So, I guess they must fight when they can see over there?
'Cause ...
- [Dean] Yeah, that's ...
- [Cory] Just so they can't see in?
- [Dean] I just have, I think a lot of fish like the pistos,
they need something to back up to.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] So I wrap that tank endwise,
and they were just too skittish with just the little--
- [Cory] And is this a five gallon,
is that what this one is?
- [Dean] Yeah, yeah.
- [Cory] Alright.
- [Dean] So they were just too skittish without that there,
and so they calmed down once they got that there.
- [Cory] And these are the what, the fire reds?
- [Dean] Yeah, that's fire red agassizis.
- [Cory] And this is, you know when we're talkin' about,
I always tell people, "You need to buy big groups, 'cause,"
so, Dean's got some in here, lots of males.
And then he's got more males up here,
You started off with what, six?
And ended up with what, six males?
- [Dean] Six males, and we thought for sure
we had picked--
- [Cory] Yeah, but luckily--
- [Dean] Two, or three and three.
- [Cory] One came into my store,
and she's already spawned,
so we know it's a female.
So, even though he's seven of these deep now,
he can finally start makin' 'em, so.
- [Dean] Right.
This one is obviously the dominant male.
He keeps this guy pretty
- [Cory] Now are you-- - [Dean] Subdued over there.
- [Cory] Intentionally leaving that other male in there?
- [Dean] Until I get viable spawn, yeah.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] 'Til I see babies, then I'll pull him out.
- [Cory] I see.
And then, so this must be
the actual wild pair of the borelli.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] So crazy to me
you're spawning stuff in five gallons.
I'm always too chicken to like,
"Oh, I'm gonna kill 'em in a five gallon!"
- [Dean] No, they're fine.
You get as good sponge filter going in there,
they'll be fine.
- [Cory] Definitely wild-caught in hiding.
But yeah, so that pair spawned the 150 of 'em.
And then, oh up top, I didn't.
I should look at those guys,
'cause I haven't even seen these guys.
So, I'll get on the ladder here.
Oh yeah, the head crusher.
- [Dean] So, what you have, is you have
an electric blue female, and a German male.
And the only reason is,
is because I don't have a lot of room
for extra fish in here.
So, I had a pair of electric blues, but I lost the male.
And so I had three pairs of the German red
and lost one female, so I just said,
"You know what, those guys are gonna like each other."
- [Cory] And have they liked each other yet, or?
- [Dean] No.
- [Cory] Not yet. (laughs)
- [Dean] But, you know, eventually those might end up
in that tank down on the floor.
- [Cory] Yep.
- [Dean] And something else would go in there to spawn,
or raise, or both.
But, I don't have a lot of room
for a lot of extra fish to hang out.
- [Cory] Alright, and there is another rack.
This is, quote unqoute, the "big rack".
And this is where a lot of fish are,
'cause this is where your 40s are.
- [Dean] Right.
- [Cory] So I guess, let's start,
tell me about the red angels over here,
'cause you're giving a lot of space to these red angels.
- [Dean] Well, we originally got 12, I believe.
And then we had one pass away,
and we ended up with five pairs.
- [Cory] That's pretty good odds.
- [Dean] Yeah, that's pretty good odds.
So right now, each pair basically has 10 gallons,
but it's shared.
And that actually works with angels really well,
because like this pair here,
when a cory gets in there, they don't have eggs,
and they're protecting them from the other pair.
- [Cory] If I can get, if I can block the--
- [Dean] The glare.
- [Cory] Here we go.
Yeah.
- [Dean] So, part of our idea is to
get the white out and develop more of a red,
or a dark orange and black angel.
- [Cory] Mm-hmm.
- [Dean] At first, none of these pairs
were very prolific at all.
These are all about, what do think, about a year now?
- [Cory] Maybe, I--
- [Dean] Maybe a little under a year.
- [Cory] Yeah.
- [Dean] Yeah.
So, but they're gradually getting larger and larger spawns,
and more prolific.
They're more better hatches.
- [Cory] Gonna have more than you know
what to do with here soon.
- [Dean] Yeah.
And you know, we might end up narrowing it down to,
you know, one pair here, and--
- [Cory] Or at least one tank-worth of 'em.
'Cause giving up one of your tanks out of what?
How many tanks do you have in here, 20?
- No, I don't remember.
Let's see, there's five, 10, 11, 12, 13.
14, 15, 18, 19.
We already get to 19.
- [Cory] Oh, okay.
I guess I forgot all the 10s racked.
- [Dean] 25,
35, 36, 37.
- [Cory] So, 37 tanks in under 100 square feet.
- [Dean] Right.
- [Cory] So, a tank every two square feet almost?
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Or, three square feet.
- [Dean] A few of 'em are head bangers,
but life will go on.
- [Cory] So, this is a cool tank, obviously.
There's a lot of money in this tank.
- [Dean] There's electric blue rams in there.
- [Cory] And so, that must be from the previous spawn.
- [Dean] That's from the previous pair.
That was before the male bit the dust.
I only had I bought a pair of those.
I ordered 'em from a breeder,
rather than try to get 'em from a store.
I wanted it from a breeder
that actually was raising 'em.
- [Cory] Mm-hmm.
- [Dean] So I got, you know, one pair from him.
- [Cory] And are you gonna use some of these
to make more generations?
- [Dean] Yes, that's the idea.
- [Cory] Yeah.
And, how do you like the intake sponge?
- [Dean] The prefilter?
- [Cory] Yeah, the prefilter that's made to do it.
- [Dean] It's amazing, actually.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] Because you can reach in there,
literally if you just popped it off,
and take it to the sink to clean it,
the filter part stays fairly clean.
I don't have to do much to that.
- [Cory] Nice.
- [Dean] And that particular sponge,
tends to hold the stuff
while you're gettin' it out of the tank.
- [Cory] Wow, I would've thought for sure--
- [Dean] Unlike this type of sponge,
so this is, it looks the same.
- [Cory] It's made by the same company, but it is different.
- [Dean] This is a lot coarser,
doesn't seem like it is.
But even this one, compared to the five inch one,
it's different sponge.
- [Cory] Right, yeah.
- [Dean] I can get that without a cloud in the tank,
but this one, it's a mess.
And I've heard of people putting plastic bags,
or wrapping them.
No, I'm not into that.
- [Cory] That's what I do. (laughs)
- [Dean] I just lift it outta there.
- [Cory] Then, looks like more rams.
- [Dean] Yeah, those are the german rams.
There's a few
super red plecos in there.
- [Cory] Oh yeah.
- [Dean] But again, even like,
this is a good example right here.
If I had cories in this tank,
all that stuff on the bottom would be not there.
- [Cory] That's amazing to me.
I haven't seen it, so it's hard for me to believe,
but I believe you, 'cause I see what you do.
- [Dean] Plecos will grind it up
and you'll end up with this,
which is easy to siphon,
but cories will grind it up so fine
that it comes into the sponges.
- [Cory] Wow, I've gotta try that, 'cause that's,
well, I run gravel, so it's gonna end up
in the gravel regardless for me.
- [Dean] This is a good example.
There's cories on the bottom of that tank.
- [Cory] And true enough, there's, you know,
there's a little bit of dust, maybe,
but nothin' like that physical poop like you see up there.
And, you know, dwarf cichlid, dwarf cichlid,
they're not the same dwarf cichlid,
but, you know, I bet their poop's fairly similar.
- [Dean] It is, yeah.
- [Cory] And these are all the--
- [Dean] These are the lobe.
- [Cory] The pelvicachromis, yeah.
Lobes, yeah.
Lotta those, too.
- [Dean] Yeah.
And the females are starting to show now.
- [Cory] Mmhmm, yeah, now you can start
pulling out sexed pairs.
- [Dean] Right, right.
- [Cory] There's another tank of lobes, it looks like.
Lots of lobes.
- [Dean] And this also has these guys, the--
- [Cory] Oh, the L333s.
- [Dean] Yeah, there's--
- [Cory] Yeah, there's some right there.
- [Dean] There's some in the sticks,
there's some in the caves.
- [Cory] Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I made Dean take these,
'cause I want him to work with them,
'cause they look amazing.
They're hard to get on camera, unfortunately.
They're all hiding perfectly.
I can only see tails everywhere.
- [Dean] We can move that, maybe they'll move.
They're pretty cool little fish.
There we go, here.
- [Cory] Yeah, they're amazing.
They've grown!
- [Dean] Yeah, quite a bit, quite a bit.
- [Cory] They've definitely grown.
- [Dean] These are the small ones.
I think the big ones--
- [Cory] There's one under there.
I don't know if it's big or not, but ...
- [Dean] Nope, that's a small one.
I think the big one is in the cave.
And that's, I think, the dominant male to be, or whatever.
- [Cory] Those guys are amazing.
I want you to spawn those badly.
- [Dean] Yeah, those are cool fish, too.
- [Cory] And then, it looks like panda cories?
- [Dean] Yeah, I think that's what those are.
- [Cory] Yeah, they look like pandas.
And are those, so do you have those in there
'cause you're gonna wanna spawn them
or because you want them to grind down the waste for you?
- [Dean] Yeah, I actually got those,
they were in a smaller fry tank,
but they outgrew the fry.
- [Cory] Oh.
- [Dean] I probably got those
when they were a half inch long.
- [Cory] Hmm.
There's a cool pleco there.
- [Dean] Yeah, that's a 201.
- [Cory] And is it just one of those,
or do you have a colony of those?
- [Dean] I only have one,
but I have three little babies in that,
in that 10 gallon ram tank that we looked at before.
- [Cory] Oh, okay.
So, just project in the future then.
- [Dean] Yeah, I got the three babies from Barbie.
- [Cory] Oh, okay, yeah.
And then, so I'm,
let's see, I guess we gotta go up--
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] For more tanks?
- [Dean] I don't know, you might end up
scaring the zebras, but we'll see.
- [Cory] Yeah, we'll try and,
'cause this is, you don't get to see this every day.
I'll get up here on a ladder and hopefully I won't ...
Oh yeah.
So, it's not, you know, the most well lit,
but, lots of zebra plecos.
This is your colony you're raising up, right?
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] And how many are in here?
- [Dean] I think there's four, maybe five.
Four or five.
- [Cory] It looks like some cherry shrimp also.
- [Dean] Yeah, and that was kind of an experiment.
I don't know if it's gonna work out.
I just think, everybody says cherry shrimp
can go up really high temp, but,
I don't think that's gonna end up working out.
- [Cory] Oh, it looks like
these rams right here are on eggs.
- [Dean] Great.
- [Cory] Yeah, there's a big old thing of,
and it's on the--
- [Dean] On the saucer?
- [Cory] It's on the saucer
and you can see the breeding tube.
- [Dean] Yeah, she's got her tube out.
- [Cory] Yeah, so that's the breeding tube
on the female there that's,
so they must have just laid, or at least, today, at least.
- [Dean] Yeah, 'cause they weren't there earlier today.
- [Cory] And so, they just laid all on this saucer
and there's a lot of eggs.
I don't know how many is there.
Someone on YouTube should count that and let us know
so that way, we know when Dean raises 'em up,
how many he actually kept alive.
And there's another pair over here, it seems.
Or at least, yeah.
- Yeah, here's a good way, I used to,
what I considered, colony spawn these.
I would put, like,
10 females and maybe five males in a 40 breeder
and I'd put the little flower pots all over the place,
pointing away from each other,
and get the females all conditioned,
throw the males in, feed 'em, water change,
and you'd have eggs in everywhere.
Then, you take all of 'em out and raise the babies up.
- [Cory] You were more like mass production back then.
- [Dean] It was like a ram factory.
(laughter)
- [Cory] And then, what have we got up here?
- [Dean] Those are some lobe.
- [Cory] Okay, are those the original ones
that made the other ones?
- [Dean] No.
- [Cory] Oh, just, okay.
- [Dean] They're just something that I netted out early.
- [Cory] And then, what's in the super secret
hidden tank down there?
- [Dean] That has those, what is it, apisto panam--
- [Cory] Oh, the panduros, yeah.
- [Dean] Yeah, yeah.
- [Cory] Yeah, they're hiding way in the back there.
- [Dean] Yeah, those are, again, they're very shy.
But, have not produced anything yet.
- [Cory] And this little, what is it, a two and a half?
Is that what this is?
- [Dean] Yeah, yeah.
- [Cory] There's the wapoga red laser fry in there.
I don't know if I can get it on camera.
They're pretty small.
Oh, there we go.
How many are in there, do you think?
- [Dean] I don't think this method was very successful,
but I'm guessing 50, 60?
I think next time, I will hatch them
and move them to the tray.
More successful fry rate, I think.
- [Cory] 50, 60 sounds decent, but, you know,
you're the man when it comes to breeding fish,
so, low yield.
Looks like brine shrimp factories or hatcheries.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] And you, if I remember right, is it,
you feed brine, is it morning and night?
- [Dean] Twice a day.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] So, I'll point on there,
this one has very little eggs.
It's already been drained and sorted.
So, tonight, I just drain that
through the sieve and feed it.
This one is in the hatching process.
I usually hatch for 36 hours.
So, every night, I start one, and every morning, I will,
like, tomorrow morning, I will settle this.
The brine shrimp will be about to here.
I'll drain it, I'll keep the water,
but I'll separate the eggs out.
I'll pour it back in and it'll get to about this level.
Feed half of it in the morning,
and then I'll have brine shrimp for them at night.
- [Cory] Right.
That's commitment, morning and night.
So, how many times do you feed
in the fish room a day, then?
'Cause you still have a full time job and all that.
- [Dean] My first feeding is at 5:15 in the morning.
- [Cory] That's about the time I'm going to bed
after editing videos.
- Right.
And then, I get home about 2:30, 3:00.
The fry I will give dry food.
All of the fry, including these.
Sometimes, if it's rainbow fry,
I will use dry food and vinegar eels.
I found that they work really good for rainbows,
to an extent.
Once I get them on baby brine,
they don't get any of the microworms or vinegar eels.
And then, the last feeding is brine shrimp,
and that will happen about 8:00 at night.
- [Cory] And I see lots of, I'm gonna give myself a plug,
like, even the breeder uses the fertilizer.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] So, I'll put a link to that
if you guys want some of that.
And then I see,
so this is a question I always like to ask people.
So, you've got your liquid test kits, I see, there.
How often do you actually test water in here?
- [Dean] Not very often.
- [Cory] 'Cause I, like, in my own fish room,
I'd say, like, maybe I'm testing
once or twice a month,
tanks that I think might be having problems.
- I probably use that most
for if I see a problem, I'll test,
and, if I get a shipment of fish in,
I know it's gonna have ammonia in the water,
but sometimes, I still wanna know what the pH is close to,
so I know whether I can just net 'em and move 'em--
- [Cory] So, if you were to get fish in the mail,
then, do you just net and drop 'em in,
or, what's your acclimation method?
- No, I usually get them to temperature.
I think temperature is very important
because netting and dropping them could sometimes shock 'em,
even though a lot of people do it.
Temperature, I think, is one of the keys.
And then I will check the pH.
If it's anywhere close, then once they're to temperature--
- [Cory] Which is, like, how far off?
- Say like six to seven,
that's good, that's close enough.
But, if it's six to eight, or,
'cause a lot of fish, you know,
around the country, a lot of 'em are at a higher pH
than what we're used to here.
- [Cory] Right, liquid rock water
coming out of Florida, or, Texas, or--
- That's the other thing, if it's super hard,
then I might acclimate them really quick,
you know, over a half hour.
And so, that's usually when I use the test kits.
Or, if I see something going wrong.
Usually, if something's going wrong,
that means something is crashing in the tank.
- [Cory] Sure.
- And sometimes, you just have to figure it out.
- [Cory] Yeah, let's see, I wanna talk about
more utilized space,
tiny little totes underneath the bottom of these things.
That's how you know you're in a breeding fish room,
'cause you start labeling things of,
that's an entire tote of breeding caves,
and the next one is an entire tote of fry traps and boxes,
and there we've got sponge filters.
- [Dean] And I have no idea what's in those, so--
- [Cory] That's 'cause they're not labeled.
- [Dean] That's fish junk. (laughs)
- [Cory] It would be more impressive if you pulled it out
and it was, like, "Oh yeah.
"I'm hatching out discus down here,"
or something.
- [Dean] No, no.
I actually thought about using some of that space for
growing shrimp or mosses
because they don't need the light,
but that might be what happens under there and under here.
- [Cory] Sure, yeah, you don't have to get on the floor
to clean a tank down there, yet.
- [Dean] But it has to be something that
I can physically lift the weight of the water.
- [Cory] And this is the most
multipurpose bucket that's ever been made, I swear.
There's a lot goin' on in this bucket.
Huh, so it's an actual water pump that's connected to
the flow valves. - [Dean] It is a water pump.
It's not a sump pump, it's a water, like,
- [Dean] It's a water pump-- - [Cory] An aquarium pump.
- [Dean] Yeah.
- [Cory] Yeah.
- [Dean] The reason it's not a sump pump is the level.
I needed this to be pretty low,
and sump pump takes another two or three inches of head.
There we go.
And the sump pump works flawlessly.
I could give you a demo.
What tank should we drain?
How about the cory tank?
That works good.
So, we take the lid off, obviously.
Now, there's two different hoses hooked up.
There's a larger diameter, a smaller diameter.
That just depends on the speed that I wanna drain at.
- [Cory] Okay.
- [Dean] Okay, usually, the larger diameter,
I'll use on the 40 breeders, the 20s,
the smaller on this rack.
There's always water in those hoses.
- [Cory] Right, you've told me about this.
I've never seen it in, I've never even seen this happen.
- [Dean] So, there's always water in the hoses,
so I'm gonna use the small one to go in here.
So, I usually come up and I'll kink it,
shake a little bit of that water out,
pull it out of here.
Now, there's water in there,
stick it in the tank.
Obviously, there's some air there, right?
- [Cory] Yeah.
- [Dean] That's gonna go right down.
- [Cory] That's pretty handy.
And then-- - [Dean] Siphoning.
- [Cory] You've just got a wand.
- [Dean] Yep, just a wand to drain.
- [Cory] And there's the sump kicked on.
- [Dean] The sump kicked on.
- [Cory] To pump the water out.
- [Dean] So, you know, I can siphon,
I can get the garbage, whatever.
Catch a fish, if I want.
(laughter)
And then, I kink it.
I can move to the next tank, or back there.
- [Cory] That's pretty ingenious.
- [Dean] Put it back in the bucket,
and it's ready to go for the next time.
- [Cory] Wow.
- [Dean] The sump will come on.
The sump is the hardest thing,
because see, I don't have water and a drain in here.
- [Cory] Right.
- [Dean] So that's a problem.
- [Cory] That would take up too much valuable space.
- [Dean] This water literally goes out of that bucket,
up the wall, all the way to the ceiling,
you can see it's the smaller pipe,
goes into the other room, goes back down,
and it ties into the washer drain.
- [Cory] Wow.
- [Dean] And the water is pumped all that way.
It does not have a check valve.
- [Cory] Wow.
- [Dean] So, when it runs,
the only thing that's gonna come back
is what's in that vertical space of the pipe,
which is about a quart.
So, when the pump comes on,
I mean, you can run it manually,
just by lifting up on the pump.
It'll run.
It'll click off.
And you'll hear some water rush back in.
- [Cory] That almost helps you keep the prime
on your hoses and stuff, though,
'cause you've always got water in there, too.
- [Dean] Right.
And yeah, occasionally, I find stuff in the bucket.
- [Cory] Sure, that's--
- [Dean] Shrimp, catfish, babies.
- [Cory] A few hundred rams, you know,
whatever makes their way into there.
- [Dean] Whatever got sucked in.
- [Cory] Yeah, that's ...
I swear, this has gotta be the most efficient
under 100 square feet I've seen so far in a fish room.
Like, if I was to do this with mine ...
- [Dean] Couldn't do it.
- [Cory] Well, there would be so many tanks,
I couldn't manage 'em all--
- [Dean] Right.
- [Cory] Like yours is crazy efficient.
And you can see other DIY
or Quick Tip Tuesday videos.
I stole this one from Dean, as well,
the night lights for his discus and stuff like that.
So, you've seen that video.
Dean came up with that idea, or at least, taught me that.
He's taught me a lot of things.
- Yeah, the whole key behind that is
is fish are never in total, total darkness.
Rarely.
I mean, even in a storm, there's lightning,
there's the moon comes back out,
so when they're watching fry,
you know, having a little ambient light in the room
is a good thing.
- Yeah.
Alright, well, I think that covers the actual fish room.
Might do some other videos on some other stuff,
but, that's the most efficient 100 square feet
you're ever gonna see in a fish room.
I challenge you to show me something more efficient
with more fry and more things spawning
than what Dean can do.
I can only imagine what Dean was able to accomplish
when he had much bigger fish rooms,
'cause this is, is this your smallest fish room you've had?
- [Dean] It's tiny.
- Well, I'm not, I mean, we're basically sitting
shoulder to shoulder here.
But yes, it is tiny, but, you know,
I knew you've run some big ones,
but maybe you had other small ones,
'cause this one's pretty efficient.
- [Dean] This is probably the smallest I've ever had set up.
- Alright.
Well, yeah, so go ahead and put your questions down below,
like, subscribe, check out our other videos like this,
and I'll try and put some links if we do some other videos,
like on how to spawn the rams, and things like that,
'cause you probably wanna know
from a guy who's got, you know, hundreds,
if not a thousand rams sitting around,
how he does it, so, check for that.
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Fish Room Tour #7 Dean breeds Discus, Apistotrammas, Rams and Rare Plecos. Small Fish Room

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annie published on April 9, 2017
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