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  • Moore: Well good afternoon everybody and thank you for coming.

  • I'm here to introduce Lauren Singer.

  • She is a graduate of NYU.

  • She comes to us from the East Coast.

  • And she was an environmental studies major in college

  • and a lot of her experience has helped her inform sort of where she is today,

  • living a zero waste lifestyle. So I will let her tell you all about that.

  • Please welcome Lauren Singer.

  • Singer: Can everyone see, hear, if I stand here?

  • Cool. So I always like to start out by just gauging who I'm talking to

  • and I'm wondering who here hasn't heard of living zero waste

  • or who was like dragged here by a friend.

  • So everyone, see, ha, cool. So who has heard of zero waste?

  • You've heard of it. Who here thinks zero waste is possible?

  • Who here thinks its impossible? Cool.

  • So, again, my name is Lauren Singer, and I'm here because I live a zero waste lifestyle

  • and I have for the past three plus years now.

  • And so, what zero waste means is actually different to all kinds of people.

  • I was talking with my friend Colin and another women at a panel

  • the other day and to some people, living zero waste is a structural thing,

  • to some people it's a political thing, and to me, living zero waste is a personal thing.

  • And to me, living zero waste means I don't create any trash,

  • or any landfill trash. So I don't send anything to landfill.

  • And again, I have been for more than three years now.

  • But I do recycle, but very minimally.

  • Because I don't really buy anything that needs to be recycled anymore.

  • And I do compost, which was one of my biggest forms of trash before I started doing that.

  • So all of this kind of started when I was in college.

  • Are you all guys undergrad? Anyone? Ok, cool.

  • So I started everything out, I was an environmental studies major

  • but I didn't really do anything environmentally until I was about a junior in college,

  • when I saw a documentary called Gasland, which was about the effects of hydrofracking on the environment.

  • And I was obsessed with the antifracking movement.

  • And I started protesting, and lobbying and doing all of these things to raise awareness about fracking

  • and I actually, if you look at this picture you can maybe spot me out

  • in the middle doing some fist stuff.

  • So, that was my junior year. It was all dedicated towards anti fracking.

  • My senior year of college was the last year that we had to kind of wrap up all of our environmental studies

  • because, as you mentioned I was an environmental studies major,

  • and one of the classes I was in, the environmental studies capstone course,

  • was the culminating course that you have to take in order to graduate

  • and you know, inform people about sustainability.

  • But there was a girl in this class that I had watched every single day

  • for the entire semester. And she would bring this big, big, plastic bag

  • full of plastic clamshell full of food, and a plastic fork and knife

  • and a plastic water bottle, and a plastic bag of chips

  • and she would eat everything and she would just throw it in the trash.

  • And I would be like oh my god your the worst person in the world. Right?

  • Because we're these environmental studies majors and this girl was making so much trash

  • and she was not even seemingly thinking about it.

  • She would just eat, and throw it away.

  • Even though we had a comprehensive recycling program

  • still just making all of this plastic trash and it really annoyed me.

  • And so, one day after class I went home to make dinner

  • and the same way I did every other night,

  • but for some reason something was different

  • and I opened my fridge and I noticed that every single thing I had in there was packaged in plastic.

  • And I don't know how many of you guys can relate with that?

  • Yeah. And I was really mad at myself.

  • And I was really sad. And I couldn't believe that I hadn't noticed that before.

  • Right? Because I was getting so mad at this girl for making so much plastic trash,

  • and it turns out that I was making just as much plastic trash,

  • I wasn't recycling everything,

  • and I was just as bad and a total hypocrite.

  • And so I felt really awful and I made a decision in that moment

  • to just stop using plastic. I didn't know how I was going to do it but I was just like done, cant.

  • And especially because I had been protesting the oil and gas industry

  • for so long and I was using one of their biggest byproducts.

  • And so that didn't align with me.

  • How could I be so vehemently opposed to an industry,

  • but still use one of their biggest by products?

  • There was a misalignment. So I decided to stop using plastic.

  • But, you guys basically all raised your hand,

  • so, if you could imagine, moving away from plastic is a probably difficult, right?

  • So, what I realized when I tried to do this

  • was that it was pretty easy for me to find stuff like food packaged free.

  • I went to natural food stores, co ops, and I was able to buy everything I needed in bulk.

  • But, what I couldn't find were things in other stores,

  • like pharmacies. I couldn't find plastic free shampoo,

  • I couldn't find plastic free toothpaste. So what I realized was I couldn't just buy

  • my way out of using plastic. I had to learn how to do a bunch of things

  • and making these products myself.

  • And so, when I started doing research

  • for these recipes, because obviously I didn't know how to make anything myself.

  • I didn’t know how to make toothpaste or deodorant or shampoo or anything.

  • I don't know many people who do, and if you do your really cool.

  • So when I started doing this research I found this blog called zero waste home,

  • started by a women named Baya Johnson.

  • Who has seen that blog before?

  • Who hasn't seen that blog before?

  • I like the more hands questions so...

  • So, Baya is awesome. She's this women who lives in Mill Valley in California.

  • And she has two kids and a husband, and a dog,

  • and the five of them live totally zero waste.

  • And I had never heard of living zero waste before

  • and I thought that for me, going plastic free, yes, I'm awesome

  • I'm doing this thing for the environment.

  • Like, I hate plastic and the oil industry

  • so I’m going to stop using plastic and I'm done. I'm good.

  • But, learning that I had the opportunity to take that one step further

  • and not produce any trash at all,

  • that was so inspiring to me because, again,

  • I studied environmental science and my life long goal

  • is just to have a positive environmental impact on the Earth,

  • and to leave it a better place than it was when I entered it.

  • And to me living zero waste has been the best way

  • to align that sentiment and those values

  • with my day to day life. Otherwise, I was just living in a way

  • that would contribute to the depletion of earths resources

  • and not actually doing anything to help.

  • And so, I decided to follow in Baya's footsteps and go zero waste.

  • So, again, a lot of you raised your hands thinking that going zero waste is really difficult,

  • and I'm sure you still think that.

  • I haven't really explained the process yet.

  • But it turned out that going zero waste was actually a lot easier than I thought it would be.

  • One of the biggest things I did, and something that already started to do

  • when I was going plastic free, was shop package free.

  • So, I learned how to buy all of my fruit and vegetables at the farmers market.

  • And you guys live in Washington,

  • you have one of the most amazing places to get food from.

  • I'm super jealous. You can harvest mushrooms in your back yard,

  • that's really cool, I can't do that in Brooklyn.

  • And so, I also learned how to do things like shop at the co op and natural food store

  • and bring my own bags to fill up with things like grains

  • and I stopped buying new clothing.

  • So everything that I wear and everything that I own is second hand.

  • I don't purchase any new clothing anymore

  • because there's enough clothing already in the waste stream

  • so I feel the need to use what's already out there and adequately dispose of it

  • like doing things like textile recycling or mending things that are just a little bit ripped

  • or a little bit broken instead of throwing them away.

  • I learned how to do things like make my own products.

  • So I finally learned how to make the toothpaste,

  • and make the deodorant, and the shampoo.

  • And by doing those little things over time

  • it turns out that I was able to reduce all of the trash

  • that I was producing. And who still thinks this is hard?

  • So, when you hear zero waste it seems really daunting and impossible

  • because it's a big umbrella term.

  • It's like hearing the word climate change.

  • No one really understands what that means because it's a huge term

  • and it's not broken down for us.

  • But when you actually look at living zero waste,

  • and you bring it down into it's pieces,

  • its actually a lot of little one time or baby changes

  • that have a long term positive impact.

  • And when I started doing this I did it for myself,

  • and not for anyone else. I did it because I wanted to live

  • within my aligned values. But I'm lazy, like super lazy.

  • And I wouldn't have continued doing this

  • if it was hard or impossible or frustrating

  • or if it just like doesn't match with my personality.

  • And so I realized that actually living this lifestyle improved my life

  • and that's why I continue doing it.

  • So the first benefit of living this lifestyle is that I actually save a lot of money.

  • Just talking about second hand clothing,

  • I save so much money by doing just that.

  • I mean even that change alone has saved me I'm sure thousands of dollars

  • over that past three years.

  • If you think of something as simple as a pair of jeans,

  • you can go to a department store and buy a pair of jeans for like $200,

  • which to me is like sickening and horrible and I hate that

  • and shouldn't be the case.

  • Or, I could go to Goodwill and get a totally good pair of jeans

  • for a dollar, $5, $10.

  • So even with that, that was one of the first ways I saved money,

  • I also saved money by learning how to plan ahead.

  • So before I started living this lifestyle,

  • I was in college, and I didn't really plan.

  • Because as college students were kind of like always just doing the next thing,

  • and just scratching to get all these things done and that's it.

  • But when I actually slowed down

  • and I started thinking about the things I was purchasing,

  • especially when it came to food, because you know when I was in college

  • I would go into my fridge and realize, oh my god, it's two in the morning

  • and I have nothing. So I'd have to go to the corner store and buy crap

  • packaged in plastic and eat ice cream for dinner because

  • that was the only option I had.

  • And so when I slowed down and started living zero waste,

  • which also meant living package free,

  • I learned how to make a shopping list, and with a shopping list you go in with a plan.

  • And so I wasn't just impulse buying when I went into a store.

  • I was looking at cookies and being like hey you cookies,

  • your coming home with me. It wasn't like that at all.

  • It was almost like, I want salads for dinner every night,

  • and I'm doing this this week.

  • And so, just by making those purchasing decisions,

  • I was able to save money because I wasn't spending money on

  • things that I didn't need. I also saved a lot of money by making my own products.

  • So toothpaste, for instance, I think is a really good example

  • because if you want to use natural toothpaste,

  • a thing of toms, I think is like $7.

  • Can anyone confirm that? $7, 6 or 7 dollars.

  • Yeah, for me to make my own toothpaste its about 20 to 30 cents

  • for the same amount of product

  • and there's no packaging, there's no shipping involved in bringing a product to a store,

  • so I don't have to walk to a store, so again it's perfect for lazy me.

  • So I have all the ingredients I need to make these things

  • in my house. So, something like that saves me a ton of money.

  • The second thing is I eat better.

  • So again I mentioned going to the store and going in with a plan,

  • and because of that I wasn't making,

  • or I'm not making impulse decisions.

  • So I can't buy processed, packaged junk anymore

  • because I choose to shop package free.

  • And lucky for me and my body,

  • that stuff doesn't come package free really.

  • And if I do want to eat something that's sweet,

  • I'll either make it myself or I'll go to a place like a bakery

  • that's not using preservatives or synthetic ingredients,

  • or, believe it or not, some foods actually have petrochemicals

  • in them. So, nothing artificial.

  • So that's resulted in me feeling and being a lot healthier.

  • So things like my weight have stabilized,

  • I don't feel heavy and bloated after eating anymore,

  • which is something that used to happen all the time

  • when I was just eating impulsively all the time and I was eating sugary things.

  • So eating a lot better, saving a lot of money,

  • those things have resulted in me just feeling a lot better.

  • By feeling better I have become so much happier

  • and I have become liberated in a sense for the first time

  • I really am living the things that I want to see in the world.

  • I'm not just talking about sustainability,

  • I'm not just saying climate change is the worst,

  • screw big business. I'm making changes everyday in my life

  • that effect, you know, reversing the decisions that big businesses

  • have made. I'm saying no to plastics because I don't like what the oil

  • and gas industry has done to the environment.

  • I'm saying no to different kinds of packaged and processed foods

  • because I don't like what those things do to the environment.

  • So I'm making decisions for the first time that not only impact

  • my life buy also align with my values.

  • So, I'm sure you guys are still like this is crap.

  • This is hard, I'm not doing this,

  • but, if any of you are like maybe, kinda, perhaps, I could do it.

  • I have steps, steps that I took and that worked.

  • So the first one that I like to suggest is actually looking at your trash.

  • Because how can we reduce the trash that we are producing

  • if we don't even know what we're throwing away?

  • Right? So for me when I did this exercise, and again,

  • I was in college, living in New York City, and my three main sources of trash were

  • organic food waste. So food scraps, I'm sure you guys can maybe relate to that.

  • And so to eliminate that I learned how to compost.

  • And just by learning to compost,

  • I removed about this much trash from my life

  • each week. Because that's about how much compost

  • I throw away every single week, or compost each week.

  • The second thing that I saw that I had was product packaging.

  • So to remove that problem from my trash

  • I learned how to make my own products.

  • And then the third thing was food packaging.

  • And so to eliminate that, I learned how to shop package free.

  • Just by making three changes,

  • because I identified three sources of trash,

  • I eliminated basically 90% of my garbage.

  • Just three things, three simple things.

  • The second thing that I like to suggest is picking at the low hanging fruit.

  • So these are the little one time, simple changes that you can make

  • in your everyday life that will have a large scale and long term positive impact.

  • So these are the really easy ones, the ones that are drilled

  • into our head from childhood.

  • Things like using a re-usable bag over using a paper or plastic bag.

  • Using a stainless steel water bottle instead of using plastic water bottles.

  • Bringing your own stainless steel straw or saying no to straws all together

  • instead of using plastic straws, which are, side note,

  • my least favorite thing in the entire world.

  • Doing things like bringing your own re-usable napkin

  • to use as a bag if you want to buy something on the go.

  • You can use it as a tissue, you can use it as, I don't know,

  • anything, you can use it as toilet paper I guess if you wanted to

  • but that would be kind of gross.

  • But you could. So, little one time things.

  • Large scale impact.

  • The third thing that I like to suggest is the actual DIY.

  • So, what I talked about, making your own products.

  • I started out by making toothpaste.

  • That was the first thing that I made.

  • And I realized that just by making one product

  • with three ingredients,

  • my toothpaste is baking soda, cocoa nut oil and essential oils,

  • that I could essentially save money

  • and have really clean feeling teeth,

  • I've brushed with baking soda for years now,

  • went to the dentist like two weeks ago and he was like

  • whoa your teeth are so clean. And I was like, thanks, baking soda.

  • And so it totally works. And that kind of got me on the road

  • of making all of my own products.

  • So now I have a four item beauty routine that I do every day.

  • It's just toothpaste, deodorant, body and face lotion

  • and, what’s the other one? Soap.

  • Yeah, for everything. And that's it.

  • And I make everything myself.

  • So just by doing those three things,

  • I was able to totally able to eliminate all the trash

  • that I make. And when I started doing this,

  • again, I was in college and I wanted to study environmental studies

  • and then go into politics and make legislation

  • to change the world. Right?

  • That's how I thought I could have the best impact on the planet.

  • I wanted to go change laws, stop subsidies,

  • do all of these big things. But at the same time,

  • I still had my blog. Trash is for Tossers,

  • which is just how I talk about all the things I do in my day to day life.

  • And, when I graduated I had a politics job.

  • So I was actually taking the steps to do things in politics

  • that I wanted to do. I was a sustainability manager at the New York City

  • department of environmental protection which is the New York agency

  • that regulates all of New York’s drinking water and waste water.

  • And, it was a good job. I would be totally happy with it if something didn't happen,

  • I realized that I was getting a ton of emails from people about all sorts of different things.

  • But one that really came frequently was like,

  • hey I really like your lifestyle but I'm a really busy person.

  • I'm a student, I'm a mother, I'm a friend, I'm busy.

  • I just don't have time. I want these products

  • but I don't want to make them myself.

  • What do I do? Do you have any suggestions of products

  • that I can buy that align with my living zero waste

  • or that is pure as the ones that you can make yourself?

  • And so, I went out on this mission.

  • I love research.

  • And so, I went to all these different stores and looking for beauty products

  • and cleaning products that were as minimalistic

  • and as clean as the ones that I was making every day.

  • And I found some beauty products that align with that.

  • I found beauty products that just had simple things like

  • cocoa nut oil and Shea butter and baking soda.

  • But the same was not true for cleaning products.

  • I found out some pretty insane things about cleaning products.

  • One of which is that, there are over 85 thousand

  • industrial chemicals used and most of them,

  • actually a majority of them, aren't tested for safety

  • before being released out into the market for use.

  • And how they are tested is when someone gets sick from them.

  • And then a bunch of people get sick from them.

  • Then they finally get looked at,

  • and or, probably not, taken off of the market.

  • That to me was really really scary.

  • And the second thing, like the cherry on top of it,

  • was that cleaning product manufacturers

  • aren't even legally required to tell you what they put inside of the products

  • on the product packaging.

  • And so we can go to the store and buy you know,

  • X, Y, and Z cleaning product brand

  • and look at the ingredients and be totally happy with them

  • but then go home and use it and not even know what we're putting

  • in our homes because it's not legally required

  • to be completely transparent

  • about it. And so when I learned that I was like that's not ok at all,

  • for any reason. Because I believe that we as consumers

  • have a right to know what we're buying,

  • what we're putting in our homes

  • and having, having the right to have products

  • that are safe for our homes and our bodies

  • and the environment. And so I took that moment to kind of assess my life

  • and what I was doing and I realized that

  • I had been making these cleaning products

  • for years and they were super effective and really inexpensive.

  • And I realized that I had an opportunity to actually start a company

  • to make products for people that don't feel that they have time

  • to make them themselves but that are as safe

  • as one that they could make themselves,

  • hopefully inspiring them to stop buying my products

  • and start making them themselves.

  • So I launched a company called the Simply Co.

  • which I started on a kickstarter.

  • And my first product that I had was a laundry detergent

  • that's three ingredients, baking soda, washing soda and organic vegan soap.

  • And through that I hope to grow and expand the business

  • to show that you don't need toxic chemicals to clean,

  • you don't have to accept the way things are in society.

  • So like one of the biggest things I did was ask, you know, like

  • why are there so man toxic chemicals in everything

  • and when did this start becoming ok?

  • When did people decide that it was ok to poison people?

  • When did businesses get the green light to start doing that?

  • And so through this company I hope to educate people

  • on making more informed choices and hopefully

  • be the bridge between buying products

  • to making them yourself,

  • because it's a lot cheaper than buying them.

  • So through this whole thing I realized something.

  • When I was an environmental studies major,

  • and actually, is anyone here an environmental studies major?

  • Cool. So for me, when I started out, I was learning all of these things

  • and was inundated with information.

  • And I go really afraid. And I was telling people, like my mom for instance,

  • like, mom you can not drink conventional milk, your boobs are going to fall off,

  • there’s like puss in it, all this bad stuff is going to happen.

  • Like don't do it. And she was like your crazy,

  • don't talk to me and she totally blocked me out

  • even though I was saying something, sorry I get a little graphic,

  • just a little nice visual to leave with.

  • And I was telling all these people these things that were totally valid,

  • you know, these scary things that were going on but by telling them how to live,

  • no one wanted to listen to me.

  • But when I stopped trying to tell people how to live,

  • and I actually looked at myself

  • and stopped trying to yell at people for what they were doing,

  • I started living zero waste and living my own values,

  • I realized that the people around me started to change.

  • My mom started drinking organic milk.

  • My dad started recycling more.

  • My friends started shopping at the farmers market.

  • Not because I ever told them too,

  • but because they saw how I was living

  • and they aligned with it, and no one wants to do bad

  • for the environment. Right?

  • No one really, I mean, I'm sure there are a few people

  • but no one really wants to make a ton of trash.

  • Make a huge environmental negative impact.

  • And so just by living the way I lived and putting it out there for people to see,

  • I realized I was able to show people how to live

  • in a way that was sustainable and actually achieve my goal

  • of a positive environmental impact without ever having to tell someone

  • how to do something.

  • And so I felt that the best way to ever achieve my goals

  • was to just live my values.

  • So for any of you that are looking,

  • or are upset with things that are going on in the world,

  • instead of trying to fight them or challenge them

  • I would suggest, for me it worked to just look at my self

  • and ask how can I live my day to day life

  • in a way that aligns with the world that I want to see.

  • Thank you.

  • And I'll take questions. Right? Cool.

  • And I love weird questions, and awkward questions.

  • They make me feel comfortable and at home.

  • And I don't live here so I totally want to feel at home.

  • Uh, back. Yeah you.

  • Totally.

  • Yeah.

  • Do I buy second hand underwear? Actually I have bought second hand underwear

  • before from a store in Brooklyn that has like really beautiful expensive

  • second hand underwear and it didn't gross me out all

  • because I wear like second hand everything.

  • And I have second hand bathing suite that's really awesome

  • but for my regular, like day to day underwear,

  • sorry for anyone that doesn't want to know about my underwear,

  • I buy 100% organic underwear from an online shop that ships

  • in only cardboard. So it's totally plastic free and totally recyclable

  • and compostable. And it's 100% cotton

  • so I can just compost it when I'm done with it.

  • Moore: And I don't mean to commandeer the mic here

  • but their recording this so if people just raise their hands,

  • they actually need to get you on the mic to record you.

  • Singer: Don't be afraid.

  • Anyone on this side?

  • Hello Lauren. So I was looking at your blog and one of the couple of things

  • that I saw was that you advocated returning

  • your plastic goods back into the Goodwill.

  • Singer: I'm sorry?

  • Returning your plastic goods back into the Goodwill.

  • You know, taking those items..

  • Singer: Oh donating things. Yeah.

  • And so I couldn't help but think,

  • doesn't that then just give that problem to somebody else.

  • Singer: That's a good question. For me, one of the biggest reasons I stopped

  • using plastic, besides you know not aligning with fossil fuel industry,

  • is that plastic harbors toxins, and for a totally health reason

  • is one of the things that I, you know,

  • deemed why I needed to get rid of things.

  • For most of my plastic products that were rigid plastics

  • that could be recycled, I actually recycled them.

  • Things like cutting boards. New York City actually has really great

  • recycling program so I just recycled those.

  • But for things like spatulas that technically couldn't be recycled

  • easy, actually now I could figure out how to recycle them properly,

  • but at the time I couldn't, and there were people that would use them

  • so I donated them. And also there are a lot of food kitchens

  • that would be happy to use things like that.

  • But I recomend just reusing something as opposed to

  • recycling it just because it reduces the amount of energy

  • expended to form it into something new,

  • but yes, technically it is giving it to someone else but,

  • if someone needs it, yeah.

  • I don't know how to choose the hands.

  • So I just wanted to know, on your plane ride here,

  • you know how they give out peanuts and stuff like that.

  • And you carry a mason jar and did you take that on the plane?

  • Or did you like break it off?

  • Singer: I always say no to like any of the handouts,

  • like not even, like one for the packaging,

  • obviously. But two, because it's junk food

  • and I just don't eat processed, syntheticy food.

  • But, I always come prepared

  • so I bring my own plane snacks

  • that I buy package free,

  • like dried fruit and nuts, and a sandwich or something

  • like that. And I always have my mason jar

  • and people are always really down to fill up water

  • in it and I've like made flight attendant friends because of it. So.

  • Moore: And we now have these microphones up here,

  • so if you want to ask her a question, just go ahead and

  • go up and talk into the microphone,

  • but while and before any body gets up here

  • I'm going to ask you a question,

  • Laura. What was the most difficult thing for you?

  • The most difficult that maybe took a while to change or was a challenge?

  • Singer: That's one that I get often and really like,

  • I mentioned this while I was talking,

  • I did this for myself and no one else.

  • And when you do things because you want to improve your life,

  • if something is challenging, it isn't really a bad challenge or a problem

  • So it was never anything’s that made me feel like I want to quite,

  • I want to give up. I was like, darn, this lotion wasn't as good as it could be.

  • I want to try again. And I think that positive attitude

  • is what helped me actually achieve as much as I did

  • with this lifestyle and now it's just become a habit

  • and so I don't even realize that I live it any more because

  • it just is what I do. It's like any habit, it becomes a habit.

  • I think there are things that are difficult to find.

  • So like certain recipes that were good were hard to find at first.

  • Like finding a deodorant recipe was like climbing Everest.

  • It was like impossible. But once I found one it was amazing and awesome.

  • And yeah, that was probably the hardest, deodorant.

  • Sure, that's a good question. My boyfriend has a son and so I've gotten through a lot of this.

  • There are tons of really awesome websites that offer things for children

  • that are totally package free and plastic free.

  • So life without plastic is one of my favorite resources

  • and they have things like kids bowls

  • and kids cups and they're like wooden toys for children

  • and bento box, stainless steel to go containers and there's re-usable diapers

  • and organic cotton bibs and there's, depending on the age of the child,

  • but theirs also second hand clothing stores for children.

  • There's eBay, where you can buy tons of things second hand.

  • So there are a lot of really awesome resources,

  • it's just knowing where to look.

  • Audience Member: And you said the website was life without plastic?

  • Singer: Yes. And they're really, it's like, beware, it's dangerous.

  • Audience Member: So one question that I'm sure a couple of us have

  • because we're in environmental science class,

  • but we're kinda curious on how big of a carbon foot print

  • you leave on the Earth, if you've ever done...

  • Singer: How big of a carbon footprint do I leave?

  • I mean from a waste perspective, I've prevented thousands of pounds

  • of trash from going to landfill if I were to live

  • like a typical American or if I lived like I did before I started going zero waste.

  • But I've never actually calculated how much carbon dioxide

  • I’m expending on a daily basis.

  • But, from a trash perspective,

  • which is where I focus, obviously

  • I haven't sent anything to landfill so zero impact trash wise.

  • I'm gonna take turns..

  • Audience Member: Well I'm just going to comment, I was going to get a lamp shade

  • and went to the store and I found one for $44,

  • I thought wait, that's too much.

  • And so I went to Goodwill and I got one for $14.

  • Lamp, light, and everything and it's gorgeous.

  • So that's a good plan.

  • What are you going to do with the stuff you can't get rid off?

  • I mean, I see myself just always running into things

  • where you just can't get rid of stuff.

  • And the second thing is, do you run into Colin Beaven?

  • Singer: Actually, yeah he's a good friend of mine, love him.

  • If anyone doesn't know him he has a documentary called No Impact Man

  • that's really great and he's a super nice person

  • and he's coming out with a new book

  • so I'm going to plug that for him.

  • You should check it out, he's really cool.

  • Audience Member: Yeah its a great movie, quite funny and informative too.

  • And he lives on the ninth floor so he walked up and down,

  • but, so, the stuff that you can't get rid off,

  • what can you plan to do with that?

  • I mean. I look at every body here and I look at myself thinking,

  • ok I could try this and only go so far, buy I don't know how far I could go. I mean I...

  • Singer: Yeah. I think for me, any action to reduce your impact

  • is a positive thing.

  • So while you might not want to go zero waste,

  • there are things, like we could all carry re usable bags

  • instead of plastic bags. There's absolutely no reason

  • that anyone here, couldn't, to my knowledge.

  • We could all use reusable water bottles.

  • There are places that you could get them out for free.

  • Places like Goodwill. But I found that for basically everything

  • there’s a place that I could bring it like,

  • what, teracycle will even take cigarette butts and dirty diapers

  • for recycling and so really there’s an option for everything.

  • I try to buy or do buy 100% natural clothing,

  • so all of that can be composted,

  • but for all of the things that are synthetic

  • there's always textiling, and then the only things that I haven't been able to,

  • I guess I didn't even say this, all of the trash that I have produced,

  • so I haven't sent anything to landfill but there has been trash that I have produced

  • that was unavoidable, inside of, wait for it, that jar.

  • So that’s all the trash from the past three years.

  • And everything inside of that is plastic.

  • Things like plastic straws I was given at bars, even though I asked for no straw.

  • Produce stickers on produce before I realized that it was an option for me to shop

  • at a farmers market. And it's not that the stuff isn't recyclable,

  • it is, there's just no current facility that will recycle

  • this kind of plastic because there's no value for the second hand product.

  • So for anything that I do have a problem with recycling

  • or you know re using, I put inside of that jar.

  • And hold on to it hoping that one day I'll be smarter

  • and be able to find something to do with it.

  • Audience Member: Hello Lauren. You said live your values. My question is this.

  • I'm married, And I'm working full time, and I'm a full time student and I mean,

  • I'm at home to come home to my homework, sleep and repeat.

  • So my question is how would I help my spouse make that decision

  • in our house and kind of implement the change.

  • Singer: Again, I would never tell someone how to live.

  • I would just try to embody those kind of values

  • and see maybe if your spouse is inspired

  • by any of them. So you know, maybe

  • do things together, like hey can we go shopping together at the farmers market.

  • Like that would be super fun and cool.

  • Or let's go second hand shopping together.

  • I feel like with my friends that's worked very well just being able to show them options

  • that they didn't know were there.

  • They began implementing a lot of the things that I did on their own.

  • Not because I told them to but because they were cool

  • and it made sense to them.

  • So if it's something that you maybe turned into like a relationship

  • building exercise then that could be like a really great way.

  • Audience Member: So you were talking about buying like cocoanut oil

  • and oils and stuff like that. This is kind of a hybrid question.

  • And I also saw your picture of buying things in bulk

  • in like a mason jar. Where as like when I try and buy stuff

  • in bulk at Winco, they weigh it so it's going to be like 87 times

  • more expensive if you weigh the mason jar.

  • So, number one, How do you find package free oil,

  • cocoanut oil, whatever? Second,

  • how do you manage buying things in bulk if you if you have such a heavy container?

  • Singer: Well to answer your second question first. I actually have an article up on my blog

  • about how to shop package free.

  • It's like three down form the top one now, maybe down four.

  • And what happens is, like say I bring this jar to a store.

  • I first weigh the jar, which is called taking the tear,

  • or the pre weight. And then I'll fill it up and write the sku or the item number

  • of what I'm putting inside and then once I get to the register

  • I tell them the weight of this jar and then subtract it

  • from the total weight and so I'm only paying for what's inside.

  • Audience Member: And so I shop at places like Winco,

  • but your talking about, so they, I don't know if they would take that on faith.

  • So, your talking about like farmers markets right?

  • Singer: So they probably, no, like any grocery store has the capacity

  • to do that. And if they don't for some reason,

  • you could switch to organic cotton bags

  • which are really light weight and they won't add a ton of weight

  • to what your buying or even if you don't want to buy something new

  • you could use like a pillow case or sew up a t-shirt or something like that.

  • And then, first question, things like oils in bulk.

  • There are stores that are awesome and have bulk oils,

  • like one of the places I go to has like bulk olive oil

  • and soy sauce and honey and maple syrup and all these crazy things

  • and if you don't have that you could buy larger.

  • So if you needed to buy coconut oil you could buy like a ten gallon thing

  • of cocoanut oil and have it for a really long time and usually

  • when you buy up in size it all comes in more rigid plastic

  • or a rigid material or you can buy in glass

  • that's totally recyclable.

  • Audience Member: So I was curious that...you clearly go to bars at like, when you go to a restaurant.

  • Singer: But like I don't drink that much.

  • Audience Member: Well I guess that was another question. What do you look for

  • when your purchasing liquor? Like what do you avoid?

  • Like where do you buy whole sale liquor?

  • That's one thing. And also when your in a restaurant,

  • what do you look for to make sure that their using sustainable practices?

  • Singer: Really good questions. If you go to places like Wine stores,

  • like for instance, in Brooklyn there like wine shops that make their own wine

  • and you can go in and refill bottles.

  • The same with a lot of places that sell beer.

  • They sell growlers and so you can refill them.

  • Luckily most alcohol comes in glass so they are totally recyclable

  • but if I go to a bar I'll aim towards buying things that are on tap or on draft

  • so like beer that doesn't come in a bottle and stuff like that for instance.

  • But yeah most alcohol comes in glass or aluminum so it's not really hard to recycle.

  • Audience Member: But for food stuff are you ever just like...

  • Singer: For what?

  • Audience Member: but like food wise, at a restaurant, if your ordering something.

  • Singer: So I don't eat out that often, but when I do I only go to restaurants

  • that are in alignment with what I care about.

  • So I wouldn't go to like McDonalds for instance.

  • I choose restaurants that have a strong sustainable ethos

  • that have local food that support farmers

  • and usually what happens when you go to places like that

  • is that they will compost and they'll have higher sustainability practices.

  • But there are places that have like paper napkins or straws,

  • so just be really insistent for asking for my drinks

  • without straw when I order them, and if their is a paper napkin

  • I'll ask if they have a re usable napkin

  • or I’ll take the paper napkin home with me and compost it.

  • Audience Member: Cool. Thank you.

  • Audience Member: Do you pay attention to all your petroleum usage?

  • So when you go to the farmers market do you purchase your goods,

  • do you make sure that it's organic grown, no pesticides, stuff like that?

  • Singer: Totally. I'm

  • Audience Member: When you travel, will you make sure, I mean do you plan your trips and stuff like that,

  • obviously you had to fly from the east coast to west coast so.

  • Singer: So living in New York, luckily I can walk everywhere.

  • It seems like you guys can walk everywhere too,

  • which is pretty cool. Oh no? Lying.

  • But in New York I walk every where so I really don't use like,

  • I hardly use fossil fuels and especially in my own house,

  • I basically eat raw, just because cooking,

  • I just prefer salad's and stuff. I'm getting fresh vegetables

  • from the farmers market and I do eat all organic from the farmers market.

  • But things like flying, there are offsets that I have mixed views

  • on offsetting but unfortunately I can't control the airline industry,

  • and so there are steps that are being taken.

  • Like there are planes running off of partial bio fuels

  • which I just saw which is pretty awesome.

  • But for right now like the only option is to offset.

  • Audience Member: Well last year I started composting

  • and I have a roommate who has been composting along side with me

  • after I encouraged her.

  • What I would like to continue this good trend and reduce all my waste

  • as well but I'm not sure how to encourage my roommate to be supportive

  • of me in my endeavors and maybe somehow encourage her

  • to also do a lot of less waste as I am so how could I possibly

  • build a good relationship so we can encourage

  • each other to do zero waste?

  • Singer: I think it goes back to where are you spouse person?

  • Yeah, to the question that you asked.

  • Just like involving each other in those things.

  • So my ex-boyfriend we were together when I first started doing all of this

  • and he was really into some things and I was really into other things.

  • So he was really into making products so we started making products

  • together. And had a lot of fun doing that and that kind of inspired

  • us to try other things. And you know, for instance,

  • if you and your roommate wanted to hang out, maybe,

  • I don't know how old you are, like drink beer and make your own products,

  • it's just a fun like friendship building exercise.

  • And I think if you do things and your like yeah I totally got a discount on my coffee

  • because I'm using reusable coffee cups,

  • that’s like inspiring enough. Just by you living that way

  • she might be inspired if she already does things like compost.

  • Audience Member: Alright so I'm assuming since you eat so clean

  • and look so clean you probably don't get sick very often.

  • But when the time ever comes that you need to take a medication

  • or something like that how,

  • like how do you view the use of medication and all that?

  • Singer: So I really, I, that's true, when I started eating better

  • I just didn't get sick and if I did get sick it

  • would be like one day or two days which was just like amazing

  • because I used to get sick all the time when I wasn’t living this lifestyle.

  • And it's probably like a lifestyle and stress and just food thing,

  • but whatever it is I feel a lot better now.

  • But with medications, if I do have like a stomach ache

  • or a headache I try any natural method I can.

  • There's a book called healing with whole foods.

  • Has anyone heard of that book?

  • It's an amazing book and it has like every possible ailment

  • and has natural methods to heal it.

  • So I'll try that natural first.

  • If there's something that really demands that you need medicine,

  • obviously your health is important and you should do what you have to do

  • but you can recycle things like tubes from the pharmacy

  • or bring them back. I got poison ivy a couple of years ago

  • and I'm like really really really allergic to it.

  • So I tried natural methods to heal it and it didn't work

  • and I was like exploding like with poison ivy

  • and I like wanted to die and it was horrible.

  • And I had to get steroids and it came in a metal tube

  • so luckily I could recycle it.

  • But it was just one of those instances

  • where I had to make a choice and I did.

  • Audience Member: So just curious, I'm gonna give you the naughty question.

  • What do you do with your birth control?

  • Singer: I do not take birth control, even before living this,

  • I stopped, I wasn't into like, like taking pills or regulating.

  • My friends started doing this thing where she takes her body temperature.

  • She bought this thermometer, it was like $300

  • and it tells you when your fertile and just based on your temperature.

  • If it changes by like .1 degree it can tell you

  • whether or not you can have intercourse. Sorry people.

  • And so obviously I always recommend like people using protection

  • if they are going to sleep with someone.

  • Getting an unwanted STD or having an unwanted pregnancy obviously isn't sustainable.

  • Never go that reaction before.

  • But, I think everyone's different and I always say protect yourself first,

  • but do what works for you in your relationship. Yeah.

  • Audience Member: I’ve been trying to bring this thing up. Ah, whatever.

  • I'm working at a locally own bar and restaurant and I've constant contact with the owners

  • and they are really great people but one of the things I've noticed

  • constantly is we have a whole lot of unnecessary waste.

  • And I constantly try to talk to them about alternative measures

  • to take, but from a company stand point,

  • what are some things that maybe you know about that I could recommend to them

  • to alter the way that they, in terms of cleaning products

  • or just packaging, whatever?

  • Singer: Totally. You guys can compost here right?

  • So like a big on is obviously having compostable take away containers.

  • My boyfriend is a cook and so he actually tries to do just that,

  • make restaurants more sustainable and restaurants are inherently unsustainable

  • and produce a lot of trash

  • but there are like little things that can happen.

  • So doing things like using re usable napkins

  • obviously, and not having straws, doing things like having compostable

  • take out containers. Not having plastic, or having alternatives to plastic wrap,

  • so not using like deli containers and using steel containers.

  • Like little changes that are more expensive but in the long run they are cheaper.

  • Audience Member: So clearly your a vegan right?

  • Signer: I'm not a vegan.

  • Audience Member: Do you eat meat?

  • Singer: Sometimes.

  • Audience Member: You do. Ok so, here's a really good question for you.

  • So when you go to a store to buy meat,

  • how about do you package that up without the waste?

  • Singer: Totally. So I don't buy meat at stores,

  • if I do it's from someone who I know killed it.

  • But in a store you can buy meat from like a deli counter

  • the same way you would like bringing your own container.

  • You can bring your own container and say can you just take the pre weight

  • and put the meat in. You can do the same with cheese or fish.

  • And then they'll take the weight of the container,

  • you put it in the weigh and they just charge you for what’s inside.

  • You can also if they say no to that for some reason

  • you can either try a person that works there.

  • Because some people are different about doing things like that.

  • Or you can just have them wrap it in paper and then compost it.

  • Audience Member: Awesome thank you.

  • Audience Member: Hi. Thanks for answering all of these questions.

  • Singer: Yeah of course.

  • Audience Member: I want to ask about backlash.

  • I'm mean the question in a million ways,

  • the simplest one is I have some students who are trying to do simple things

  • like using re usable bags and they're getting essentially micro aggressed

  • by the people that are checking them out.

  • So I think it might be helpful for some of them to hear your journey

  • of developing a backbone because you know in a sense your in a minority.

  • And it seems if your an environmentally minded person

  • and your expressing it through your life choices

  • we get kind of beaten down a little bit.

  • So I'm just curious how, what your journey has been like.

  • Singer: I think number one, your totally right.

  • The way that I live is totally minority way and the way that I do things

  • is really strange to people because they've never seen it done

  • or it's new or it's alien and sometimes I get looks from people

  • and I'm just like this is amazing.

  • This is so cool because when someone gives me a look

  • when I'm doing something that they've never seen before

  • if it means that I'm showing them something that they've never seen before

  • so in a way I’m educating them. And I will sometimes say like hey

  • can you put this in my re-usable cup because

  • I don't like to use disposable and make a ton of landfill trash.

  • And it's just like a tiny little blurb but it helps to kind of get an internal dialogue

  • going that will explain why I'm doing the things that I'm doing

  • and it's really like a way to educate people.

  • And that happens a lot at coffee shops.

  • People will be like whoa I've never seen anyone use a mason jar before.

  • And they'll be like that’s so cool it makes so much sense.

  • I'm going to start doing that. Or I’ll get like a discount on my coffee

  • and it just kind of like, I'm not trying to prove anything to any one

  • and if that's the place that your coming from living a lower impact lifestyle.

  • Someone criticizing you shouldn't matter because your doing it for yourself.

  • Audience Member: Hi Laura. From your PBT I have seen that you

  • have been several time to Whole Food market which is one of my favorite market

  • to buy some grocery. But for a college student,

  • it seems like a little bit too expensive

  • and do you have any recommendation for this?

  • Singer: For produce, sometimes it can be less expensive but farmers markets

  • if find, it also depends on what your buying and the most expensive food

  • is food that's wasted and doesn’t get eaten

  • and so for me like I found that once I started really planning,

  • I was spending a lot less on groceries because

  • I didn't need as much as I thought I did.

  • But really farmers markets I find are a lot less expensive

  • then going to a chain grocery store.

  • Audience member: That's cool and I'm starting environmental sciences

  • and I did a little bit research about whole market,

  • sorry about that, I don't want to say something biased

  • but I have seen a lot of market.

  • They are saying like organic, but they are same product

  • for higher price and it just seems ridiculous to me.

  • Singer: So, that's exactly, things like that is exactly why I don't really shop

  • at large chain stores often.

  • You know, sometimes if your traveling it's like the only option that you have.

  • But, I shop, I really believe in community

  • and knowing the people that you buy from

  • like from the food to where I'm buying

  • the ingredients from like, especially for my business.

  • And when I shop at the farmers market, I know the farmers

  • that are growing my food and how they are doing it

  • and so I know that the thing, price that they are charging

  • is justified because it's organic and they're driving all the way from upstate New York

  • to bring it. So I just feel like buying

  • it directly from the person that grows your food is the best option.

  • Audience Member: Thank you so much.

  • Audience Member: Hello, given the public nature of your project,

  • you have to respond to objections I'm sure on a pretty regular basis.

  • Are there any objections that you run across consistently

  • that you have trouble responding to?

  • Singer: Kind of. I think I get asked if I'm vegan a lot.

  • That's always one that, actually I don't get asked if I'm vegan a lot,

  • I get told that I need to be vegan and that's insanely frustrating to me.

  • I would never tell anyone what to do or how to live.

  • And trying to push an ideal on me will never work.

  • I think just by living a lifestyle and just sharing with someone

  • why you do what you do, but not telling someone why they should do

  • something is the most effective way to do it.

  • For me, like I have my own reasons for choosing to eat

  • the way that I do that are very based in science and research

  • so for me just being told to do something is really the hardest

  • for me because I'm very conscious about all the decisions

  • that I make. But yeah anyone telling me how to live

  • is always super frustrating because

  • I would never tell someone how to live.

  • Audience Member: So you just kind of disarm them with the attitude of...

  • Audience Member: So I have a question. As a teacher I sit in my classroom

  • and I try to teach environmental studies to students

  • and then I go to faculty office to pick up my mail

  • and then I find all of the trash that could actually be recycled

  • in the trash can in the faculty offices.

  • And then I go to faculty functions or school functions

  • and it's all disposable things and stuff along those lines.

  • So how do you, you must have given talks

  • at lots of places like this or being at NYU,

  • how did you, without telling people what to do,

  • how do you get the message that, hey,

  • here's a different option for you?

  • Singer: I think just by talking about it.

  • It's really easy with the girl that used to piss me off in college

  • about bringing trash, you know, I shamely, have never,

  • or did never approach her about what she was doing or talk

  • about that problem. I just took it upon myself to change the way

  • that I lived. But I think that sitting down with your peers

  • and having a conversation and being like hey we're throwing out

  • a lot of stuff, just like is anyone feel that maybe

  • we can be recycling a bit more? Or like try to approach

  • it from a really positive place or say like

  • lets have a challenge.

  • Maybe we can recycle more than have trash and weigh it every week or whatever.

  • Try to make it into a positive thing.

  • But they're all habits.

  • Some people don't have a habit of recycling

  • or having a conscious about what they're throwing away

  • and just like creating a dialogue

  • around that and helping people to change their habits,

  • if they want to.

  • Audience Member: HI, thanks for coming and talking with us.

  • I just on a personal note,

  • it's been a lot of fun after learning about your lifestyle

  • to take a mason jar to the store and buy things in bulk,

  • which you can do at the Tacoma Food Co-op,

  • for the women who asked. You can get your olive oil there and your soy sauce,

  • so we do have a resource. But my question is

  • that you mentioned that you wanted to go into politics

  • or do something with legislature because you want to make an impact

  • there. But here you have a blog, and your giving talks,

  • and your also living your zero waste lifestyle.

  • So do you feel that, and I don't know if this is the right question,

  • do you feel that one makes a bigger impact

  • than the other or are they different?

  • Do they compliment each other in some way?

  • Singer: Yeah, I think that like any space trying to make a positive impact

  • is positive. For me and what my strengths are,

  • I didn't think being in politics and being in an office all day

  • was the right place for me.

  • I was also inspired by a professor of mine

  • that I had at NYU. His name is Jeffery Honder

  • and he started a company called seventh generation.

  • Does anyone know that company?

  • And he left that company and started a new company

  • called sustain that make sustainable condoms.

  • And he informed us about the bag practices of the rubber industry,

  • obviously rubber makes latex,

  • which makes condoms,

  • and he said that he wanted to invest in fair trade rubber

  • and help to grow that industry and just by starting

  • a new company he was going to inspire

  • other people to change the whole face of an industry.

  • And that was amazing to me and that was kind of one of the motivating factors

  • that made me feel that business was the right place for me.

  • That by creating a product, you didn't have to do something bad,

  • you could actually do a lot of good on a large scale platform

  • and so I think it's all about doing what's or finding your strength

  • and running with it.

  • Moore: Hey Lauren. It looks like I'm going to be the last question before we end tonight.

  • But so my question is, so you live your zero waste lifestyle

  • fro yourself with the mason jar as proof of that.

  • But do you ever really think,

  • I pose the question to you that you pose to us,

  • which is, is it truly possible with all the infrastructure

  • that we have to truly live a zero waste lifestyle

  • and I guess I ask this because I’m wondering

  • if the whole notion of zero waste is kind of illusory

  • given are structures in society.

  • Somewhere up steam when we go out to eat

  • or even the olive oil or the coconut oil that comes to the store

  • has to come from some kind of packaging.

  • How do you feel about that?

  • Singer: It's a really good question. For me like I explained before,

  • I focus on just individual trash impact so my personal trash output,

  • which I think and has been possible to have at zero,

  • but there's a lot of change that has to happen in business

  • and in all different kinds of industry

  • that has to happen to be truly you know waste free.

  • And I think its just, its so multi faceting.

  • I mean you have to have the adequate facilities to recycle things

  • and industrial composting or even small scale composting

  • and then you have to ask the question should there even be these large businesses

  • making all this trash and a big thing that I focus on

  • is big businesses aren't even held responsible for the trash or the products

  • that they're creating so they can make anything and put it on to the market

  • and not have to pay for recycling infrastructure

  • and that burden falls on the tax payers and on governments

  • which is why taxes are so high and why we're always complaining

  • but we're buying these products form companies

  • that don't have any responsibility

  • so like they wipe their hands clean.

  • Again, another huge problem, but I mean,

  • there was a time when people weren't really creating trash

  • and things were made from natural materials

  • and so if there weren't synthetics, technically everything

  • could be composted and returned back into the Earth.

  • So it is possible, it's just we have to revert back to a lifestyle

  • where synthetic products weren’t the norm.

  • Moore: A great, actually I have just one more quick question.

  • And I'm, why do you, can you give us the elevator speech

  • of why you hate plastic so much?

  • Singer: Oh my god, I mean, do you have time.

  • So, the biggest reasons that I don't like plastic are one,

  • obviously it takes forever to biodegrade

  • and I have a friend who's a scientist that actually helps

  • to make plastic and he says that even if it's a bio plastic

  • it'll never truly bio degrade.

  • And so that's one thing. Also, plastic attracts toxins.

  • So when it gets into the ocean, which inevitably happens to most plastic

  • does, it can be up to a million more times more toxic

  • than the water around it. And what happens with plastic

  • is because of the acidity of the ocean,

  • in some breaks down into smaller and smaller pieces

  • and then fish and marine life mistake that for food

  • and the toxins in that plastic does something

  • called bio accumulates which means

  • the amount of toxins in a species that's eating

  • it increases as you move up the food chain.

  • And so the fish that are getting to us are totally contaminated

  • with toxins that they've received in their bodies

  • because of toxins that we've improperly disposed

  • of or irresponsibly disposed of.

  • So just for it's pure impact on nature,

  • that's one of the reasons, but like, getting into the whole extraction process,

  • you know like the extraction of fossil fuels

  • for plastic is totally environmentally detrimental

  • and uses a ton of fuel to make fuel.

  • A ton of water, even things like hydrofracking to make gas,

  • I mean, tons of toxic chemicals,

  • millions of gallons of water and sand has tainted water,

  • drinking water for people. It has absolutely ruined lives.

  • Has even in some cases been said to start

  • or bring earthquakes in certain areas so the oil and gas industry,

  • besides even the plastic product,

  • is just a totally unsustainable industry,

  • so that's the short of it.

  • Moore: Sounds like your kind of on the fence.

  • No I'm just kidding. Can we give her a round of applause

  • and thank her.

  • Singer: Thank you. And I can totally stand here if anyone,

  • if anyone else has questions I can stand. Yeah.

Moore: Well good afternoon everybody and thank you for coming.

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