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  • Hi.

  • I'm Kathleen Schultz.

  • I'm a clinical engineer at Aurora Saint Luke's Medical

  • Center.

  • I've been working there for 10 years with the ventricular

  • assist device program.

  • And I'm here today to tell you a little bit about our devices

  • and how you may interact with them out in our community.

  • When we talk about a left ventricular assist device,

  • we're talking about a device that

  • is going to take over some of the function

  • of their left ventricle.

  • It works in parallel with their native heart.

  • So we don't remove their heart.

  • We basically core a little piece of their left ventricle

  • out and put in one of our devices.

  • Then the blood that goes into their left ventricle

  • is then pumped through our device back into the aorta,

  • and pumped back into the rest of their body.

  • It does take over the majority of the function

  • of their left ventricle, but not all of it.

  • They still will get some blood going from their left ventricle

  • into the aorta through the aortic valve itself.

  • At Saint Luke's, we currently use two different types

  • of non-pulsatile LVADs.

  • We use the HeartMate II and the HeartWare device.

  • Both of these devices are able to have the patient go home

  • on them.

  • When we talk about devices and why we use them,

  • there's a couple reasons.

  • There's one called the Bridge-to-Transplant.

  • With a Bridge-to-Transplant patient,

  • these patients ultimately will be transplanted

  • at the end of their device life.

  • We are basically putting in a device

  • to make them healthy for when they

  • go into transplant because we want them to be like you and I.

  • We want them to be able to walk as much as they can.

  • We want them to be able to exercise.

  • So it's basically to build their endurance back up.

  • We also use Bridge-to-Transplant devices

  • in our very large type "O" patients.

  • Type "O" blood type patients are a little harder to transplant.

  • So they're on that transplant list a little longer.

  • Unfortunately, the length of the list

  • also causes them to often become sick or in their heart failure.

  • So we're able to put these devices in,

  • and we're able to give them a better life

  • until their transplant comes.

  • Now, kind of the way the whole bad world and transplant

  • world is going is that most patients who

  • will get a transplant will be on a LVAD before transplant.

  • It's just how it's going.

  • We've noticed that the healthier we can take them

  • into the transplant, the better off they

  • are with their transplant, and their transplant surgeries

  • go a little better.

  • So at Saint Luke's, probably about 75%

  • of our patients who go to transplant

  • have an LVAD prior to it.

  • And again, they can be discharged home.

  • The other indication that we're starting to use now,

  • and it's been approved in the last probably about 10 years,

  • is destination therapy.

  • Destination therapy patients are not transplant candidates.

  • There's many reasons why they may not

  • be transplant candidates.

  • It could be their age.

  • At Saint Luke's, we have a soft cut-off of 70.

  • We do do some patients over 70 if they are very physically

  • active patients, but most of the time our cut-off for transplant

  • is 70.

  • We also-- if they have a lot of health conditions--

  • we may not be able to transplant them

  • right now whether they have renal failure, whether they

  • have cancer, other things that may cause them to not currently

  • be able to be on the transplant list.

  • Well, we don't want to promise those type of patients

  • a transplant if we can't give it to them.

  • So what we do them is we say-- oh, we can still put this pump

  • and is destination therapy, but we're

  • asking them to bear with us and see

  • if we can fix their health condition.

  • And then when their health condition

  • is fixed or becomes at a point where they can be transplanted,

  • then we move them back over to the bridge to transplant list.

  • Compliance is another huge issue.

  • We are advocates for the donor family.

  • We are not advocates for our patients.

  • So we want to make sure that our patients are a hundred percent

  • compliant, and that they're going

  • to treat their new organ with the respect that it deserves.

  • So if we have any sort of judgmental issues

  • with our patients on their ability

  • to be compliant with medications, alcohol, or drug

  • use, things like that, we may actually

  • say-- you know what, you have to prove to us

  • you're going to be compliant, and then

  • we will give you a heart.

  • So we basically do a social contract with them

  • and say these are the things that you have to do,

  • and when you fulfill that social contract we then will move you

  • back over to Bridge-to-Transplant.

  • The other reason that we may put it in for destination therapy

  • is obesity.

  • If somebody is over a BMI of 40, which is basically

  • a ratio between their height and their weight, if it's over 40

  • we can't transplant them.

  • It's too hard to find them a healthy organ.

  • So then we say to them-- you know

  • what, we will put this device in you,

  • and we will give you the ability to go out and exercise,

  • we'll educate you on what you need to eat,

  • and you need to come back to us and show us

  • that you're going to lose the weight you need in order

  • to get that transplant.

  • We also are one of the only programs in the nation who

  • actually also has a good relationship

  • with gastric bypass.

  • So a lot of our patients, if they're really obese

  • and they're showing us that they're

  • doing what they need to do, we actually

  • will refer them to our bariatric program

  • to get a lap band, or usually only a lap band

  • because it causes issues later with transplant

  • if they have a full gastric bypass,

  • but we do have a program with that.

  • All of the patients who are destination therapy,

  • they're at high risk of intervention,

  • high risk of death if we don't intervene soon.

  • Usually the protocol is if we don't do something and put

  • a device in them, their life expectancy

  • is about six months is what we're looking at.

  • These patients will live on this device.

  • They are never promised a transplant.

  • They're given basically contracts

  • and say-- if you follow these, we will go ahead and possibly

  • move you over to that transplant list,

  • but you really have to prove it to us.

  • So when they're put in, we do give them a palliative care

  • consult, because we know that they could

  • die on this device that might be there end-all.

  • They could eventually again move to that transplant list

  • if things get fixed, and then they

  • can be discharged home on these devices to live on them.

  • Currently, at Saint Luke's we are

  • about a 50/50 in our Bridge-to-Transplant

  • and our destination therapy list.

  • Now when we talk about these new types of devices,

  • before we get into them I want to just talk

  • about what non-pulsatile devices are.

  • When I first started at Saint Luke's, our devices

  • were about the size of a paint can lid,

  • and they were about two inches thick.

  • So imagine putting that in a patient.

  • That was pretty big.

  • It was all motorized and it would

  • break in about a year and a half.

  • So the companies and the health care world

  • said-- you guys have to do something about this.

  • So in order to make them smaller,

  • we had to make them what we call non-pulsatile.

  • So basically when we talk about non-pulsatile,

  • our devices have no valves in them.

  • So they have no ability to close and shut.

  • It's just one opening that goes through.

  • With that the easiest way to picture

  • it is like water coming out of a garden hose.

  • We call it continuous flow.

  • So whatever the device gets the device is going to spit out.

  • When it comes out of the end of our device,

  • or what we call our outlet, it is also

  • going to have no pulsatility to it.

  • It is, seriously, like water out of a garden hose.

  • So with that in mind, our patients

  • will have very, very low blood pressures,

  • and their difference between their systolic

  • and their diastolic pressure is pretty small.

  • We're looking at about a 5 to 15 millimeter of mercury due.

  • And that difference, and that-- what we call pulse pressure,

  • the difference between the systolic and diastolic--

  • is literally just on their own heart and their contracting.

  • So that's what causes that difference, but again

  • we minimize it.

  • So there is no usually blood pressure of 120 over 80.

  • We're looking at 90 over 70, 80 over 60, sometimes.

  • We're looking at much lower blood pressures.

  • They're typically not palpable at the extremities.

  • So even though it may have a little bit of pulse pressure

  • when it leaves our device and hits the aorta, by the time

  • it gets out to their arms and their legs,

  • if you try to feel pulses they're

  • often diminished, or gone.

  • So it does cause a little bit of problem

  • for people who meet them in the community

  • because they're used to feeling a pulse,

  • and our patients often don't have that.

  • The patients still do need their native heart.

  • We did not take it out.

  • We attach these devices to their native heart,

  • and for our devices to work and work effectively,

  • we really that need that native heart to still pump.

  • So we're really dependent on still that contractility

  • that that native heart has always had.

  • And we will try to correct the heart if it's not functioning

  • right because our device will see

  • and have problems with that.

  • Similarities among all of our LVADs that we use,

  • even the ones that I'm not going to show you today-- we do

  • have some at the hospital that maybe don't go home

  • or are a different kind that we rarely use,

  • but all of our devices will have what we call a driveline.

  • And this is basically a line that exits their body usually

  • on the right side, and this is what

  • delivers all the power to the device

  • and actually allows the device to communicate back with us.

  • This driveline is very, very important

  • that we keep and maintain it.

  • We don't want any cuts in it.

  • We don't want any breaks it because if we break things

  • we break the wires, we break the communication,

  • or we break the ability to provide power to it.

  • All of our devices will have a controller, basically

  • the brains of the system.

  • It's like a little mini computer.

  • It's all programmed.

  • It's what provides-- tells the pump what to do,

  • and it also is what reads what the pump is doing and gives you

  • visual and audible alarms if anything is wrong.

  • It has two batteries.

  • They will all have a battery charger,

  • and they will all have some sort of AC power unit for sleeping.

  • Basically all that is is a unit that plugs up into the wall

  • and provides the patient continuous power so

  • that when they're sleeping they don't

  • have to worry about running out of battery power.

  • What we do at Saint Luke's, though,

  • is we encourage our patients only

  • to use that wall unit when they are sleeping.

  • We did not have them go through this big surgery that

  • requires a full chest opening for them to sit on a power unit

  • and not get out and exercise.

  • So we tell them when you get up in the morning,

  • you need to get on batteries, and you

  • need to stay on batteries all day

  • so that you can go ahead and be living life,

  • and going to the store, and going out to eat,

  • and going to be with your family and friends.

  • Again, the types of LVADs that we're going to talk about today

  • are our two most common types.

  • It's the HeartMate II device and the HeartWare device.

  • When it comes to which one we choose,

  • it really comes down to a couple things.

  • Usually the physician will choose

  • based on the patient's size, their heart failure,

  • sometimes it depends on if it's in a clinical study or not.

  • If it is in a clinical study, sometimes a patient

  • may not qualify so they may be forced to the other one.

  • If the physician really has no reason

  • to choose one device over the other device,

  • we actually show both to the patient.

  • We show them what they're going to take

  • home, how they're going to have to live,

  • give them a small synopsis of how it functions,

  • and we let the patient choose what

  • they feel will fit into their lifestyle the best.

  • When we talk about the HeartMateII,

  • this is currently the most common LVAD

  • that we do use at Aurora St. Lukes.

  • There is a picture on the screen with it,

  • but here is the LVAD also.

  • What happens is it does take over pumping

  • for the left side of the heart.

  • This is what we call an inflow right here.

  • So when I talked earlier about coring out that left ventricle,

  • basically it's almost like an apple core.

  • We just go in there and we take out

  • a small piece of the ventricle in which this inlet can fit in.

  • We basically then pop this into the inlet.

  • All of this pump stays down just below their ribcage inside

  • of them.

  • And this is our outflow in which we go ahead

  • and we sew right back to the aorta.

  • So we're taking the blood from the left ventricle

  • that it normally would have used.

  • We spin it through our pump, which

  • is this gray portion right here, and we put it

  • right back where it should have gone, the aorta.

  • Again, this is the driveline.

  • We've talked about this a couple times, this white cord.

  • So basically this is going to tunnel underneath them,

  • come out on the right side of their body.

  • And this is what you will see, basically,

  • is just this cording piece of material from here to here.

  • It's going to come out so this patient only

  • has this much distance in order to move.

  • This pump itself is projected to last about five to ten years.

  • There is truly no contacting parts inside of here.

  • So there really should be nothing that wears

  • or tears inside of it and breaks,

  • but just in the time of being on.

  • And what we have to do is we have

  • to do something called anticoagulate these patients

  • because we put a foreign body inside of their body.

  • Their body likes to reject it a little bit.

  • So what we have to do is these patients will

  • be on coumadin and aspirin in most cases,

  • and usually that fluctuation in coumadin and aspirin

  • at some point in time may cause this pump to clot off.

  • So that's where we get that projected five to ten years is

  • more how easy they are to what we call anticoagulate.

  • When they're on coumadin, there is a level

  • that we can watch to see what their level is at.

  • And that's called an INR.

  • We look for an INR of 1 1/2 to 2 1/2 for the HeartMate II.

  • With that in mind, that is not any higher

  • than a patient who is out there on atrial fib,

  • or has a valve, arm surgery or replacement.

  • So we're really not asking for a hugely increased INR

  • than other common heart surgeries out there.

  • With the HeartMate II, some patients

  • can be off of anti-coagulation if they

  • have a history of a GI bleed.

  • What happens with the devices is sometimes

  • they will have an increased risk of GI bleeding.

  • So the HeartMate II does allow our patients

  • to take it off of them, off of coumadin

  • for that history of GI bleeds.

  • We already talked about where it exits the body.

  • So, again just above the waistline.

  • With this driveline, this white piece that will come out

  • of here, will then attach to something called a controller.

  • This is the controller.

  • Off of the controller is two other lead.

  • So this driveline right here will go into the controller

  • right here, and then off of there comes two power

  • leads in which they would have to have batteries or a power

  • unit attached at all times.

  • This is our older controllers.

  • So we actually have two different controllers

  • currently out in the community and on our HeartMate II

  • patients.

  • The older controller looks like this.

  • It provides power to the LVADs still

  • like before, still controls everything.

  • It does provide visual and audible alarms

  • through this panel on the front here.

  • And when the patient leaves they will always

  • have an extra controller with them.

  • So in this case, if they have this controller,

  • the driveline is actually going to attach right here.

  • So this white line would come in right here and attach,

  • and then their batteries are coming off on one on each side.

  • The controller actually has been upgraded

  • to a new controller which is the first one I had out here.

  • The nice thing about this controller

  • is it not only gives you symbols,

  • but it actually gives you words.

  • So it'll tell you how to fix it or what's going on.

  • So there's not a lot of guess work with this newer

  • controller.

  • The batteries-- the patient will wear two batteries

  • at all times.

  • So this controller right here is actually

  • attached to a driveline and running

  • so it has two batteries attached to it at all times.

  • For a battery to interface with the controller,

  • it does require a clip.

  • So you just put these two together, and go on

  • and put it on to the pump.

  • It does require that two power sources

  • be attached to it at all times.

  • So it either has to have two batteries,

  • or it'll have the power module cable which

  • has two ends to it that are attached.

  • Once a patient on HeartMate II goes on to a set of batteries,

  • a set of batteries is going to last them about 12 to 15 hours.

  • So they will actually get the majority

  • of their day out of one set of batteries.

  • Unless they sleep two hours a night,

  • they really are going to get all day on one set of batteries.

  • You'll see on this slide there's also

  • a picture of a power module.

  • That's what they would use to provide AC power.

  • The thing with the HeartMate II is

  • this box is about a foot by a foot.

  • It has to sit in one room.

  • It's about 10 to 15 pounds.

  • So the patients don't like to move it around.

  • So it's often going to be found in their bedroom.

  • So if you do ever go to their house

  • and you're looking for their power module,

  • we tell them to put it where they're

  • going to sleep because that's where they're going to need it.

  • So it is often found in a bedroom.

  • The next slide shows the Universal Battery Charger.

  • So again, obviously these batteries

  • need to be recharged at some point in time.

  • So the patient goes home with eight batteries.

  • Their battery charger charges four at a time.

  • So they are taught to rotate through all eight

  • of their batteries at any given time.

  • When the batteries are not hooked up into the charge,

  • if they're just sitting there not being used,

  • they will hold a charge for well over a month.

  • So they should be able to rotate through them pretty easily.

  • If the patient has the older controller,

  • the manila-colored controller, they

  • will also on top of their power module have a display module.

  • That is what gives them all of their numbers.

  • It gives them all of their alarms

  • in verbal or in written form.

  • So they have that portion to it with that display module.

  • With the newer controller that's all available right there

  • for you at that time because the display module only

  • works when you hook up to the power module.

  • So it wasn't quite as convenient as the new controller.

  • The Heartware devices, the other one that we commonly use.

  • So this is the Heartware device.

  • This device is currently approved

  • for just Bridge-to-Transplant.

  • It is in a study for destination therapy.

  • It's not a study based on how effective the pump is.

  • It is more based on a study on what blood pressure

  • you need to maintain to make this pump not clot off

  • for long periods of time.

  • Because again, remember, that destination therapy patients

  • are going to live on this device.

  • So they really are looking at what is that blood pressure?

  • Again, it works very similar to before.

  • We still have an inflow.

  • It sits at the top of this pump, still

  • requires a full chest opening.

  • The nice thing about this one is it does sit right

  • at the apex of their heart.

  • So not below their ribcage, but rather behind their ribcage.

  • So if we have a shorter, smaller person,

  • this device sometimes fits in a little better

  • because it doesn't have to go down into their abdomen at all.

  • I do not have the graph material on this pump,

  • but it has the same kind of grafting material

  • that comes off of here and goes right back to the aorta.

  • Again, this pump is projected to last about five to 10 years,

  • just like the other pump.

  • The only thing is this one does require a tiny bit higher INR.

  • We're looking at two to three for this device.

  • And they're pretty strict on that two to three.

  • They don't like us to take people off of anti-coagulation

  • if they're bleeding with this device.

  • At times we have no choice but to do that,

  • but we try to leave it on.

  • Again, the picture here shows how it fits in there.

  • It shows the pump right at the base of the heart.

  • It shows the driveline-- mine's a little twisted--

  • coming out on the right hand side.

  • And then this driveline, again, attaches to a controller box.

  • And then this controller box has to attach

  • to some sort of power source.

  • When we talk about accessories, again, this

  • is their controller.

  • The big selling point on this one

  • used to be that it had the LCD screen,

  • but now HeartMate II has come to the new century

  • and has also given them an LCD screen.

  • It still does the same thing the HeartMateII does.

  • It still provides all the power to the pump.

  • It also takes information for the pump

  • and gives it back to the user.

  • So this is what is going to provide them

  • any of their visual or audible alarms, based

  • on if something is wrong with the pump.

  • There is a picture of how it is carried

  • in a bag down below on the PowerPoint.

  • And they still are required to carry an extra one of these

  • around when they leave the house.

  • So basically, any patient who leaves their house

  • should always have an extra controller with them,

  • no matter which device they're on,

  • and they should have extra batteries with them.

  • A battery for this device is the small gray box right here.

  • I'm going to pick up this whole thing.

  • And it plugs into the controller just like this.

  • These are a little nicer.

  • They're just a turn and a push to get them in.

  • It can operate, or it does operate

  • on just one battery at a time.

  • So even though you are required to have two power

  • sources attached to your controller at all times,

  • it is only draining one of them at a time.

  • So with that in mind, the batteries

  • do only last about four to six hours,

  • and then the patient will get a little beep that tells them

  • that they need to put a new battery on that side.

  • Once they replace the battery, then the beep goes away.

  • The controller will automatically

  • switch to the other power source that's

  • attached to it so the patient doesn't

  • have to run out of power.

  • It just is notified every four to six hours

  • that they have a volt battery.

  • The nice thing about this, which I didn't bring here,

  • is this device does have an AC-- what they call power cord.

  • It's a lot like a laptop brick so that core

  • that runs to your laptop, that's what their AC cord is.

  • So rather than that one by one foot box,

  • it's really a portable cord with them.

  • So these patients, even though their batteries may not

  • last as long, [INAUDIBLE] is very portable.

  • So we actually do encourage these patients,

  • if they're just sitting around watching TV,

  • why run on your batteries?

  • Just plug into the wall because the cord

  • is really easy and portable to move around.

  • We also encourage them if they're

  • going out of their house to take one of their AC cords

  • with them.

  • They do go home with two to have it with them so that they

  • can hook up when they're just sitting around doing nothing.

  • They also are provided with a DC adapter, which is something

  • that the HeartMate II does not have.

  • So these patients, if they're one of those

  • that's going to travel-- we actually

  • have a patient that is currently on his way

  • to Wyoming in a car-- and he is using his DC adapter.

  • It plugs into its power cord in his car,

  • and he can hook up and run off of his car battery

  • while he's driving to Wyoming.

  • And he doesn't have to worry about-- worrying

  • about his batteries changing because this patient physically

  • himself is driving to Wyoming.

  • He is the one driving.

  • So we don't want him to have to worry about running out

  • of power as he's driving.

  • About probably 50% of our patients drive.

  • We do allow them to drive.

  • There's nothing currently in the state of Wisconsin

  • that stops them from driving.

  • So they are restricted to about 12 weeks

  • after surgery before we allow them to drive.

  • This device also has a battery charger just

  • like the other device.

  • It charges four batteries at a time.

  • It allows them to-- so if they have four to six hours out

  • of their battery, it's going to take them about four hours

  • to recharge that battery.

  • This device does go home with only six batteries,

  • but, remember they do have that AC cord that they're

  • allowed to use during the day a little more freely.

  • So they don't eat through quite as many batteries.

  • When we talk about complications-- so now

  • we put this in, we say they're OK to leave the hospital

  • and we send them out to the community.

  • What complications are you guys maybe going

  • to see with these patients?

  • One of the main complications that we have are arrhythmias.

  • On There's right heart failure.

  • There's low volume.

  • Device malfunction.

  • Bleeding.

  • Infection.

  • And thrombus and stroke.

  • When it comes to arrhythmias, remember

  • before I told you that our pump is really

  • dependent on that heart functioning as it's intended.

  • Because that's what fills our pump.

  • When your heart contracts, it pushes blood

  • through our pump a little faster.

  • So we need that heart to work.

  • Remember too, earlier, I told you

  • that this only supports the left side of their heart.

  • Well, there's a whole other side of the heart

  • called the right side.

  • And the right side is what feeds all the blood to the lungs,

  • oxygenates that blood, and then that blood comes from the lungs

  • into your left side.

  • And then that's that oxygenated blood

  • that your tissue in your body get

  • when your left side pumps it out.

  • Well if we leave these patients in arrhythmias

  • for long periods of time, we're going

  • to put out that right side of the heart

  • and it's not going to function as it was intended.

  • And then our device isn't going to function as well.

  • And then guess what happens?

  • Your end organs, your livers, your kidneys,

  • all of those type of things, they don't get profusion.

  • They don't get oxygenated blood.

  • So we can't leave our patients in arrhythmias

  • for long periods of time.

  • With that in tow, our patients will tolerate an arrhythmia.

  • So you may walk up upon one of our patients

  • and they may be in v-tach or v-fib.

  • Well, guess what?

  • They'll be talking to you.

  • So it's a little strange because that's not normally

  • what you see out there.

  • When people especially are in v-fib,

  • they're down on the ground.

  • You're doing CPR usually.

  • And our patients, sometimes will talk to you.

  • They may tell you they don't feel the best,

  • but they're likely not going to hit the ground

  • and pass out in most cases.

  • They'll be talking.

  • We still want you to get them out of them.

  • So if their AICD hasn't gone off on its own,

  • we want you to externally defibrillate these patients.

  • Again, if the right size is not working

  • and it can't get blood through the lungs

  • and it can't get it to our left side,

  • then our pump can't function.

  • So we really have to work on that right heart failure.

  • With that in mind, out in the community,

  • do not underestimate the amount of patients

  • that we may have on some sort of Viagra in some way, shape,

  • or form may come in different names, Revatio or Magellan.

  • But ask even our female patients--

  • are you on some sort of Viagra before you treat these patients

  • because they often are.

  • That is one of the medications that we commonly

  • use to help that right heart function.

  • It helps lower those pressures and the lungs for us

  • so that right side doesn't have to work quite as hard.

  • So low volume, that is another thing

  • that we're going to deal with here.

  • We did not cure their heart failure.

  • Again, there's no cure truly for heart failure.

  • All we're doing is finding a way to assist their heart failure

  • so it's not quite as overcoming to them.

  • So with low volume, what happens sometimes

  • is we sold these patients on diuretics.

  • And we're limiting their intake, and we're

  • giving them diuretics such as Lasix, furosemide, things

  • like that.

  • So we always are bouncing back and forth

  • on that low volume issue.

  • So you may run across a patient who has low volume.

  • The other thing that comes with low volume,

  • and we're going to jump ahead a little bit, is that bleeding.

  • So if that patient is doing some GI bleeding,

  • or bleeding somewhere else or they've

  • been bleeding profusely out of their nose which

  • happens sometimes, they may become a low volume state.

  • And we have to supplement that low volume state.

  • Because what happens if we don't stop that low volume

  • state-- remember, I told you all of these inflows

  • are sitting in their left ventricle--

  • if we don't have enough volume in that left ventricle,

  • our ventricle sucks down around that inflow.

  • And if our inflow taps that ventricle wall at all,

  • it often will cause that patient to go into v-tach or v-fib.

  • So we really are juggling that low volume state.

  • Device malfunctions.

  • I know it sounds horrible, but they actually are pretty rare.

  • The devices are actually pretty reliable.

  • They may get a battery here or there that goes wrong,

  • but when we're looking at device malfunctions

  • they often are just a change of a controller.

  • In most of the time, the patient can come to us

  • and we can change their controller.

  • It's still functioning, just something

  • maybe isn't working a hundred percent right with it.

  • So often they're not even changing their controllers

  • at home.

  • They're coming to us.

  • When we talk about device malfunction,

  • the big one really is, jumping ahead again a little bit,

  • is that thrombus and stroke issue.

  • Because if we start building any sort of issue

  • up inside our pump, it can't spin like it wants to.

  • And it starts to cause some heart failure

  • issues with these patients.

  • So when we're thinking that there

  • may be some sort of thrombus in our pump,

  • we start looking for things like Coca-Cola color urine.

  • So if you come across our patients

  • and they have really dark urine, when we get them

  • to the hospital we start looking at things like their labs.

  • There's a value called LDH that we check.

  • There's a value called plasma for hemoglobin.

  • If all of those are elevated, along with that Coca-Cola

  • colored urine, plus there's a number on the device called

  • power that we watch, if that's also increased

  • those are all really indicated that the patient may

  • have some sort of thrombus building up inside of them.

  • They also always risk that stroke.

  • Just because we put a foreign body inside of them

  • they always will have a risk of stroke,

  • and that ability to build up some sort of clot

  • and basically spit it out of our pump,

  • and then it goes to their head or to some sort of arm or limb.

  • With that in mind, there is also infection.

  • I know I talked about it last, but this is probably

  • the number one problem our patients have.

  • Remember I told you earlier, we have that exit site

  • that's coming out of the right side.

  • Well, that's basically a foreign body coming out of their thing.

  • If they tug or pull on that exit site, it's going to open it up.

  • Well, as soon as you open it up, guess what?

  • Those little bugs like to get in there.

  • Once our patients are infected, if they

  • have a full-blown infection and they don't call us early,

  • it will often remain infected for the duration of their pump

  • life.

  • They often will end up on antibiotics

  • for the duration of their pump life

  • which often becomes a miserable life for them.

  • So we really encourage our patients

  • to be mindful of that exit site.

  • We actually have them wear a device

  • a little further down from their exit site.

  • So if they drop their bag or something

  • like that, which is going to happen at times,

  • it pulls on that device and not the actual exit

  • site itself to avoid infections.

  • When we talk about the EMS ED role, or just

  • the community role in general, we

  • do want you guys calling us and asking us

  • if you have any questions.

  • So anytime you come across a patient who

  • may be having a problem out in the community,

  • we do ask that you guys use the numbers that

  • are on the controllers.

  • On the HeartWare controller, the numbers

  • are going to be on the back of the controller.

  • And on the HeartMate II, the numbers

  • will also be on the back of the controller for you.

  • Those numbers will give you the EMS,

  • or it will give you all the pager

  • numbers for the engineers.

  • It also gives you the surgeons and the transplant clinics'

  • numbers.

  • So you have full access to us at all times.

  • When the patient does go home, we

  • do notify their immediate community

  • that they are out there.

  • So if the patient lives in Milwaukee,

  • we notify the Milwaukee EMS.

  • If the patient lives in Racine, we notify the Racine EMS.

  • So if the patient lives in Waukesha,

  • we'll notify Waukesha's EMS.

  • But remember these patients aren't homebound.

  • They don't have to stay home.

  • Remember earlier, I said we have a patient going

  • to Wyoming right now.

  • So we then also notified Wyoming.

  • So if they travel, we ask that they

  • let us know that they're traveling so we can set them up

  • with the safest way to travel in centers out and about.

  • But again, a patient from Waukesha

  • could very easily go to Pleasant Prairie to go shopping,

  • and a Racine person could run across them out

  • in the communities.

  • So again, it is important to remember that if you need them

  • at all that those numbers are on the back of the controller.

  • So if the patient can't communicate with you,

  • you need to look for those numbers

  • and communicate with us so that we can help you out

  • in the community about getting them back to us.

  • Again, the patients and the families

  • are completely trained on these devices.

  • When they leave our hospital, they

  • know exactly how to run them, how to troubleshoot them,

  • how to change controllers, how to notice

  • if things are going wrong.

  • It is not the community's responsibility

  • to know how to troubleshoot them.

  • What we like to do is come out and educate you guys

  • so you guys can see what they are,

  • what a battery is, what a controller is.

  • So when you get out there, if the patient is stumbling

  • through things, you've seen it already.

  • We do ask, though, that if you do come across them

  • and they need to be put in an ambulance

  • and taken to a facility that you do allow

  • a device-trained individual to go with them, especially

  • if the patient is in some sort of distress,

  • because they may not be able to one hundred

  • percent operate their own device at that point in time.

  • We also ask that you try to get a hold of the engineers

  • and let us know that you're coming in so that we can meet

  • you in the ER because if it's the weekends or nights,

  • we're not at the hospital.

  • So we're coming from home.

  • We also ask that you really help us make sure

  • that the patient leaves the house with the back-up

  • controller and extra batteries.

  • I know sometimes that's the hardest

  • thing to do when the patient's in distress,

  • you just want to get them in the rig and get them out,

  • but we really need that extra controller

  • when they hit our hospital.

  • So they may need assistance carrying that equipment.

  • We do encourage our patients to try

  • to keep their extra controller and an extra set of batteries

  • in a bag ready to go at all times.

  • So often if you just ask them-- where's your emergency bag,

  • where's your back-up controller.

  • They'll know right away like- oh, it's right by the door,

  • or, it's right here.

  • Sometimes it's just a little bit of communicating with them

  • because they're often forgetful when

  • they're in that distressed state.

  • If the patient is medically stable,

  • we do asks that you try to take them to St. Luke's.

  • We do understand if they're not within the Milwaukee area

  • sometimes that's a little hard to do.

  • So you can take them to a local hospital.

  • That local hospital then would hopefully

  • communicate with us, or if you can remind them to communicate

  • with us with the numbers on the back of the controller

  • that they're out there, and then we

  • will communicate with them on what

  • is the best course of action for that patient.

  • It's becoming more common that LVADs are out there.

  • So now you're seeing that a lot of times

  • our patients will go to outlying and ERs,

  • and they'll actually get treated and get discharged home

  • from those outlying ERs.

  • It's not always necessary that they come to St. Luke's as much

  • as it used to be.

  • If the patient is clinically unstable,

  • though, we really need them to go to the closest hospital

  • because we don't want anybody to miss a treatment because you

  • took a three hour drive from Green Bay down to Milwaukee.

  • So at that point in time, we have no choice

  • but to take them to the local hospital

  • and get them stabilized, and then

  • get them transported down to us.

  • Now what is the EMS ED role when it comes to LVAD-- so if you're

  • not a LVAD trained person, what are you

  • supposed to do with these patients?

  • Well, we do understand that assessing these patients

  • is very hard because remember, again, this

  • is a non-pulsatile left ventricular assist device.

  • So we took away every measurement

  • that you guys are used to using.

  • We took away their blood pressure in most cases.

  • We took away their pulse in most cases.

  • So you really have to go back to things that are clinical signs.

  • You need to look-- are they breathing?

  • Are they warm?

  • Do they have capillary refill?

  • Push their finger down and see how fast

  • it takes their fingernail to fill back up.

  • If they're talking to you, even if they don't have a pulse,

  • please don't do anything crazy with them.

  • Just call us, and we'll help you through it.

  • So with that in mind, with blood pressures,

  • that's always the big question for us.

  • What do we do with that blood pressure?

  • Because, guess what?

  • It's not always going to be picked up

  • by an automated cuff which people are used to using.

  • You can try it.

  • We do run our devices a little slower

  • than we used to to help with that GI bleed problem,

  • just to keep a little more pulsatility in these patients.

  • So sometimes that automatic blood pressure cuff will work.

  • If you do get it to work, fine, you can take that number.

  • But again, remember, that number may not

  • be what you're used to looking at.

  • When it comes through that automated cuff,

  • it may only be 80 over 60.

  • I don't want you pumping a bunch of volume into my patient

  • because that's normally what people

  • would do at that point in time.

  • If you have an 80 over 60, we are

  • looking for a mean pressure between 60 and 90

  • for these devices.

  • So we don't treat a systolic and diastolic with these patients.

  • We treat a mean.

  • So again, you may have some patients

  • out there with lower blood pressures.

  • If you put too much volume in these patients,

  • you're going to push them into congestive heart failure.

  • So again, we walk that really thin line.

  • If you cannot get that automated blood pressure cuff to work,

  • sometimes it requires that you use a Doppler.

  • And what you would do is you would put a normal manual cuff

  • on their arm.

  • You're going to blow it up.

  • You're going to put the Doppler where you would listen.

  • And when you hear that first swoosh sound, guess what?

  • That's the number you're going to take.

  • You will not hear a second number.

  • You're just going to hear that first swoosh number.

  • And we want that number somewhere to be 60 and 90.

  • We consider that kind of like their systolic mean.

  • So again, if you can't get it to automatically read,

  • then you will have to find a Doppler

  • and use a Doppler pressure.

  • Now what happens if your patient application comes in

  • and they're not stable?

  • They're not able to talk to you.

  • They come in.

  • They're basically full-blown coating.

  • Well, guess what?

  • We made it easy for you.

  • Follow all your ACLS protocol.

  • You still want to attach EKG rhythms to these patients.

  • That's one of the biggest things we see out in the community is

  • patients who have LVADs, people don't want to do the normal.

  • Guess what?

  • You're AICDs will work.

  • Your AEDs will work.

  • You want to get ECG cables on there.

  • Make sure that they're not an arrhythmia,

  • that that's not what's causing their problems.

  • If they do you have an arrhythmia,

  • we want you to shock them out of it.

  • Again, remember though, that a lot of them

  • will be awake and alert and oriented.

  • So if you're going to shock them externally,

  • please sedate them first because they

  • won't be very happy with you.

  • If you have to do chest compressions

  • on these patients-- let's say that they have no pulse.

  • You can't find it.

  • They're not talking to you.

  • They're starting to turn gray.

  • They're starting to turn cold.

  • Guess what?

  • You have no choice.

  • Do chest compressions.

  • To us at St Luke's, we have the little saying-- dead is dead.

  • So please, try to save them and do the chest compressions.

  • If you do nothing, they're going to die.

  • So we can't stress more than anything, look at that rhythm.

  • If you only have an AED-- if they go down at church,

  • and you have an AED, pop it on them.

  • It'll work.

  • We want to keep them out of those arrhythmias.

  • And again, follow all the ACLS protocol.

  • The only thing I caution again is make sure

  • that the patient's not on some sort of Viagra.

  • In general, LVAD troubleshooting.

  • So again, we don't train you, but everybody

  • wants to know-- what do we do?

  • How do we do this?

  • What do we do if we come across this patient

  • and their controller's alarming?

  • Well, guess what?

  • In general, if the controller is not alarming and you come

  • across one of our patients, they have at least 2 1/2 liters

  • of flow going through them.

  • Our devices, both devices, alarm if their flow is less than 2

  • 1/2 liters.

  • So with that in mind, you're not going

  • to get much more with that with doing chest compressions.

  • So unless that patient is truly turning gray and cold,

  • I wouldn't jump into them if the controller's not alarming.

  • If the controller is alarming, we

  • do ask that you verify that the power source is attached.

  • So if this is the hardware, you want

  • to make sure the batteries are attached to it.

  • And then the HeartMate II, you want

  • to make sure the batteries are attached to the power leads.

  • In both cases, these pumps will not

  • run if batteries are not attached.

  • So you may come across a patient that has just accidentally

  • disconnected both of his powers.

  • So if there is not power attached, please attach power.

  • If there is still good power attached,

  • and the thing is still alarming, we

  • want you to verify that the controller's detached

  • to the driveline.

  • So in this case, on the heartware,

  • it's making sure that the silver connection is

  • in the actual controller and hasn't come out.

  • The HeartMate II, depending on which controller you have,

  • it's either going to go into the top here,

  • or if you run across some of our older patients that are out,

  • it's going to be on the side here.

  • So it's just making sure that that controller has not

  • come out at all from the driveline.

  • Because if the controller's not attached,

  • there's no way to provide power to the pump.

  • So the pump will stop again.

  • If it's still alarming, at that point and time

  • you need to page one of the engineers

  • at the 414-222-7434 number, and we'll

  • help you do any additional troubleshooting

  • that you would need to do out in the field.

  • With that in mind, I will remind you there

  • has been times where the EMS or the ED has had to call us

  • and they've had to put a battery on,

  • or they've had to find equipment for us.

  • And this is why we do these talks,

  • so that when I'm on the phone with you

  • and I say-- can you find a battery?

  • You know what a battery looks like.

  • I'd like to thank you now for assisting us

  • in helping us get these patients back out to the community

  • and living their lives again.

  • For us., it's huge in their recovery process.

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