Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles we aware of the recent television special, that claimed to give an honest, candid, and revealing look into the private life of one of the world's most successful and controversial celebrities, Michael Jackson The revelations were explosive, the ratings were enormous, but Michael has claimed that what, TV journalist, Martin Bashir presented was a twisted and edited construction of scandal and innuendo Not a true representation of the interviews that actually took place. In the next two hours, we're gonna give you an opportunity unprecedented in the history of television. We're gonna show you footage that was never intended to be broadcast. Tonight, the private video from Michael's own cameras. Cameras that shot 'The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Never Meant to See' As much as I do not speak about my family, I will right now. For the first time, Michael's ex-wife speaks out in public. My kids don't call me mom, because I don't want them to. You'll find out what really happened during the astonishing incidents with his children in Germany. And I've seen people that flip their kids up in the air, do somersaults, and catch them. To be honest with you, I think, wait another four or five years the kids will come in front of the camera and they will defend their daddy. You'll hear about Michael's childhood. One of the things that I can see this man tried to do, he tried to pin something on me where I was real brutal. You'll find out how Michael really feels about his father. He doesn't know this, but I walk in the room and his presence would be there and I'd faint. You'll hear about Michael's surgery that the other special didn't mention. The whole top of his caught fire, right in front of my eyes. You'll hear the truth behind Michael's children and their disguises. Michael is very proud of his children; I'm the one who's terrified. You'll go behind the rumors of the Neverland Ranch. I never did - I would slit my wrists before I would hurt a child. And find out how those rumors have driven a family from their home. Gavin call me, he was crying on the phone. He went in gas station, the kid in gas station, they start kidding "Oh you are the kid who doing this with Michael. You slept with Michael." They ruined this kid's life! You'll hear from the people closest to Michael. I've heard someone say on the television that no-one should be allowed behind those gates at Neverland, especially the children. They don't even know what they're talking about. Plus, a surprise revelation from the man behind the Michael Jackson interviews. There will be a lot of controversy about this. Stupid tabloids. You're beyond this, you're a respected journalist. All tonight, on 'The Michael Jackson Interview: The Footage You Were Never Meant to See,' With Mr. Bashir's full knowledge, Michael had his own behind the scenes camera document the major interviews. The quality of the audio and video may be a bit raw at times, but it will enable you to see and hear the interviews as they actually happened, and will allow you, the viewing audience, to draw your own conclusions. While Michael Jackson has provided this footage to us, he has absolutely no control over the editorial content of this program. But who is Martin Bashir and how did he get an exclusive interview with one of the most reclusive pop stars the world has ever known? In 1995, this little known British journalist caused an uproar when his sensational interview with Princess Diana revealed details of her extra marital affair. Since then, he has scored interviews with England's most notorious newsmakers, becoming somewhat of a celebrity himself. His interview was, as he put it, "a request to show me the real man, but show me everything, make nothing off limits." Michael agreed, and the first interview was scheduled for the summer of 2002. In these photos of one of Bashir's interviews with Jackson, you can see the camera that captured the footage you were never meant to see. It's mounted right there, on the light stand. This is the view it was capturing at the last interview, and this is the shot from the very first interview at Neverland. The man adjusting the lens ?And now this is on. - Okay, see, can we have silence in the house? - Yeah Is Jackson's own documentary cameraman. Oh, I just wanted to clarify that it was not a 'secret video.' Right now they are saying that we were secretly video taping it, but that's not the truth. Mr. Bashir saw me hooking up the camera, and everybody saw the camera up there and we were just rolling it. We usually do documentary of every thing that Mr. Jackson does. The bigger the star, the bigger the target. The more popular I became, the more rumors that were created None of which were true. I mean the moment I started breaking the all time records of the biggest selling albums of all time, they calling me weird overnight, strange, whacko. They said that I'm a girl, homosexual, "He wants to buy the elephant man bones," "He sleeps in a hyperbaric chamber." None of that stuff is true, all completely made up. It's all lies. I sleep in a bed. I mean, people would be so surprised how normal or simple Most people would have a hard time thinking Michael Jackson's life is normal or simple. Maybe it's that ranch, north of Santa Barbara, California; The 3,000 acres he calls Neverland. Neverland is an extraordinary, What inspired me, it was so easy because it was me being myself creating things that I love, and what I love, kids happen to love, or what the child that lives inside the adult happens to love. It is so easy because I'm putting behind the gates everything I never got to do when I was a kid. - Somewhat? - What do you regret? When I was really little, around 11 or 12, I was under contract with Motown and I would have to go to the recording studio. I had to go and make these albums, because the summer tour was right around the corner. Right across the street from the recording studio was a ball park, and I could hear the kids, the roar of the crowd, them playing and catching ball, having fun, playing tennis. Some of those times I so passionately wanted to just go over there, just play a little bit, and not go to the recording studio and sing; just have some fun with the kids, and I couldn't. People say, "Why is he always with children?!" Well, I was raised in a world with adults. The kids were playing and in bed at sleep at night. I was up doing clubs, I was doing club dates, three in the morning. The strip tease would come up after us. We were performing. We didn't have friends; My brothers were my friends. We worked, we worked, we worked. There was no Christmas, there were no birthdays; we were very strict Jehovah's Witnesses. So, I'm compensating. Major make me sure that I'm compensated for the lost. So you come behind my gates, and you'll see an amusement park, you'll see animals, you'll see everything I never got to do. There's candy everywhere. It's fun. While Bashir and his crew were here at Neverland, they got to witness what is almost the weekly experience. Busloads of children, some from the inner city, some orphans, some terminally ill, but all of them escaping their realities to spend the day at Michael Jackson's creation. Who's gonna try to help me? You want to come over here and see the elephants? I feel totally at home with them. I can talk to them one on one, because they don't judge you. They're not looking for anything from you, they just want to have some fun, and that's the same with myself. I can connect to that, I can understand that. The fact that I missed that on so much, as I was a child as soon as they come in the room for me, the whole room lights up. I like the sound they make. They're really funny. Oh God, they're really funny. Yeah, one of the little boys said to me, he saw all the rides, and all the amusements and he said, "Michael Jackson, you own all of this?" I go, "Yeah." He said, "You paid for all of this?" I went, "Yeah, I did." "And you still have money left over?" That's exactly what he said to me. I said, "Yeah." He said, "I can't believe it! I can't believe it!" That's exactly what he said He was amazed that I still had money afterwards. We're the Make-A-Wish staff members, and we're escorting all the Make-A-Wish families who came to meet Michael. It's just a great thing to be a part of it and to see how happy they are. Everything's free, theatre, amusement parks, whatever they want to do, we can do it. Millions a year, but you know, I get it all back when I see them smile. Peter Pan Peter Pan represents, to me, represents something that's very special to my heart. He represents youth, childhood, never growing up, magic, flying, everything that I think that children and wonderment and magic, what it's all about. To me I just have never ever grown out of loving that or thinking that it's very special. No, I am Peter Pan. I'm Peter Pan, in my heart. Yes, that's absolutly true. I've never been betrayed or deceived by children. Adults have let me down; adults have let the world down. What you're seeing all took place on the day that Martin Bashir and his crew were filming at Neverland. You actually see him in several of the shots being taken by Jackson's camera crew. This was supposed to be a documentary to tell the truth, everything, I mean who would bring somebody to his life, and open up all the way, and wanted to lie about it? If want to lie about it, don't even do it. He didn't have to do this documentary; nobody forced him to do this documentary. After a full day spent with children from the Make-A-Wish foundation at Michael Jackson's Neverland Ranch, what was Mr. Bashir's comment? We'll quote directly from his appearance on ABC's Primetime Thursday. As we said, that was Bashir's comment heard on TV by millions of people, but what did Bashir say to Michael Jackson about this day at Neverland? Let's take a look at the footage that was captured by Michael's camera documenting the interviews. You know what? He does it all the time and a lot of people see it. A lot of people see it The woman you see has been Michael's makeup artist for over 20 years, after listening to the glowing praise Bashir had for Michael in this interview, she had a very hard believing he could call Neverland a "dangerous place for children." It's so hard for me to imagine that Michael opened up the gates not only to Neverland but to his heart, to Bashir. I really thought that Bashir got it. - This is getting worse. - ?And you never see anyone talk about it. And if they do, they don't don't make it in papers, they don't make it on the interviews, all is negative stuffs Stupid rumors - They cut questions out, they just make it That's why he doesn't do any interviews anymore. They twist everything. From the moment I met him, I remember How can people be so cruel? I remember reading an article and they Now, what could make an award winning journalist have such a different opinion between what he would say on the air, and what he would say in the interview footage, not included in his special? It appears that after Mr. Bashir had called cut for his own camera crew, he may well have forgotten that Michael's camera was still recording his every word. A possibility supported by a ripped request for both him and the producers of his special to make Michael's footage available for their review. The different opinion expressed by Mr. Bashir regarding the safety of the underprivileged children who visit Neverland, is only one of several contradictory moments captured on tape All of which you will see and hear on this program. When we come back, an exclusive interview with Michael's ex-wife. As much as I do not speak about my family, I will, right now. Michael makes a long overdue confession. - You had sex with Debbie? -Yes. I know that's difficult for you to say, because you're embarrassed, but you actually had sex with her, you conceived with - Yes. yes And Debbie tells us about the results. And then his son was born, and the look on his face Plus, a very surprising revelation from Michael's private cameras. All when we return to In addition to the never before seen footage from Martin Bashir's interviews, we have also been allowed unprecedented interviews to some of the people closest to Michael Jackson. People who have turned down very lucrative offers, to tell the inside story of life behind the Neverland gates. They break their silence for the first time. And not for money. No-one interviewed for this show received any payment to tell their story. Their reason for appearing here is to tell the truth as they see it. The person who has most avoided the glare of the spotlight was the person who was perhaps the closest to Michael. The woman who was his wife, and the mother of his first two children Debbie Rowe. What's happened in the past is that things have been taken out of context, twisted around. If I can help straighten it out as much as I do not speak about my family, I will right now. When I was talking to Prince one day, he said to me that he didn't have a mother. He said he didn't have a mother? Yeah, I said, "Prince, where's your mummy?" He said, "I haven't got a mumma." - That's right. - Did you tell him to say that? - No. -What do you think he means when he says, "I haven't got a mother? Like he said, he doesn't have a mother. My kids don't call me mom because I don't want them to. They're not - They're Michael's children. It's not that they're not my children, but I had them because I wanted him to be a father. I believe that there are people who should be parents and he's one of them. He's such a fabulous man, and such a good friend, he's always been there for me, always, from the day I met him. I could do something for him and this is what I wanted to do. Most people think that Michael and Debbie's relationship was very short term Actually, they met over 22 years ago. Was it intense then? No, no, it was over time. I think it was, 18 years, 17, 18 years, that I knew him, when I had Prince. In that time, they've gone on some very unusual outings Often with Michael in disguise. Yeah, he'd call, "What're you doing?" "Nothing, what're you doing?" "Wanna go to the video?" "Yeah." We'd sneak out without security." We got caught. Last time, it was like being chased by people. We'd have to call security, bail us out, but yeah, we'd go out and do stuff, sneaking into premieres and things. Yeah, we had a good time. He's always a lot of fun. When did Michael start talking about wanting to have kids, when he was still with Lisa-Marie? No, they had broken up. I was trying to consult him because he was really upset.