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  • Well, I, I would say something that could almost sound heretical -

  • I would say that I think there is truth in every religion.

  • It doesn't mean that the religion is true, but the point is that

  • the Bible says that everything that is good,

  • everything is of God, right?

  • So if somebody is ideologically totally

  • crazy, but there's one thing they say that's true,

  • then I can say yeah, that's, that's true. I don't need to reject you,

  • and your whole tribe because you don't agree with me on everything.

  • So I think that

  • we need to understand that there can be truth and beauty in other religions.

  • Ultimately, I would say that they're not,

  • they're not going to lead you to the whole truth, and that's really the issue,

  • but I would even say that most of Christianity historically

  • has confused people and has not represented God.

  • In other words, you're, you're talking about, you know, when you're talking about God,

  • you're talking about something so beautiful, so amazing

  • that it's easy for people to get it wrong.

  • So when Christians sort of argue

  • that like, "I've got the best religion," on some level they're off-base

  • because what's true is true, and you're not,

  • I'm not trying to sell somebody on religion.

  • I'm trying to sell somebody on God.

  • In a weird way, Jesus, when he came to earth, like, destroyed religion.

  • The whole, the whole idea that he comes and he offers us free love,

  • and says, "I love you, and I died for you,

  • and I want you to, to, to know me."

  • It's the opposite of what the world traditionally calls religion,

  • which is "you gotta do this, you gotta do this, you gotta believe this, gotta believe this, gotta believe this,

  • otherwise you're going to hell." Like, that's religion.

  • In a way, Christians can sometimes be a part of that kind of religious

  • thinking, which really is antithetical to the love of Jesus.

  • And so it can be really confusing, so I guess I would say

  • in a nutshell, people who are, like, arguing, "it's all about ideology, it's all

  • about theology," and they get into these arguments, it's besides the point.

  • When you think about the thief on the cross

  • who Jesus says to him, "I tell you this day

  • you'll be with me in paradise," what was his religion?

  • What was his theology? It's so simple.

  • This was a human being turning to Jesus and saying,

  • "I'm looking to you for, for truth. I'm looking to you."

  • That's not very ideologically or theologically complicated.

  • It's really simple. So I think that

  • ideology, theology - these things are important.

  • Doctrine is important, but a lot of times people,

  • and again Christians included, have used that

  • to kinda beat people over the head and act as if what you believe intellectually

  • is what gets you into heaven, or, and it's,

  • it's a little bit more than that.

Well, I, I would say something that could almost sound heretical -

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