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  • Dr. Tim Fort: I believe we are ready to get started, everyone.

  • The sad thing, of course, about today is it's the last one,

  • and I know that everybody who's been here

  • for the last two weeks has really enjoyed this very much

  • and it has been a terrific experience, a learning experience academically

  • and intellectually, as well as just an experience to be in the midst

  • of this event, which it is, as well as being a class.

  • And so, we're looking forward today to the final,

  • concluding lecture of the aftermath of the crisis

  • with Chairman Bernanke, Mr. Chairman.

  • [ Applause ]

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well, hello again.

  • So, today in the final of our four lectures, as Professor Fort said,

  • we want to talk about the aftermath of the crisis.

  • Now just to recap briefly, we talked last time about the most intense phase

  • of the crisis, in late '08 and early '09; financial panic both in United States

  • and in other countries, industrial countries;

  • threat in the stability of the entire global financial system;

  • the Federal Reserve working, as I'll describe, with others served in its lender

  • of last resort role provided short-term liquidity

  • to help stabilize key institutions and markets.

  • I think one of the points that we can now draw having looked at the history is

  • that rather than being some ad hoc and unprecedented set of actions,

  • that the Fed's response was very much in keeping with the historic role

  • of central banks, which is to provide lender

  • of last resort facilities in order to calm a panic.

  • And what was different about this crisis was

  • that the institutional structure was different.

  • It wasn't banks and depositors.

  • It was broker-dealers and repo markets.

  • It was money market funds and commercial paper

  • but the basic idea providing short-term liquidity in order

  • to stem a panic was very much what Bagehot envisioned

  • when he wrote Lombard Street in 1873.

  • Now, I've been focusing very much on the Fed's actions.

  • That's been the topic of the course, of course,

  • but the Fed obviously didn't work alone.

  • We worked in close coordination

  • with both other U.S. authorities and foreign authorities.

  • For example, the Treasury was actually engaged after the Congress approved the

  • so called TARP legislation.

  • The Treasury was in charge of making sure that banks had sufficient capital

  • and the U.S. government took an ownership position in many banks

  • that was essentially temporary.

  • Most of those have now been reversed.

  • The FDIC, the Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation, played an important role.

  • In particular, the deposit insurance limits,

  • the $250,000-deposit insurance limits, were raised essentially to infinity

  • for the transactions accounts.

  • And the FDIC also provided guarantees to banks who wanted to issue

  • up to three years of debt, corporate debt, in the marketplace.

  • For a fee, the FDIC guaranteed those issuances

  • so that banks could get longer term funding.

  • So this was a collaborative effort between the Fed and other U.S. agencies.

  • We also worked closely with foreign agencies.

  • I mentioned last time the currency swaps,

  • which are still in existence whereby the Fed gave dollars

  • to foreign central banks in exchange for their own currencies.

  • And those foreign central banks took the dollars

  • and on their own responsibility, on their own risk made those--

  • made dollar loans to financial institutions that required dollar funding.

  • We also of course continue to be in close touch with finance ministers

  • and regulators around the world as we try to coordinate to deal with the crisis.

  • Now, putting out the most intense phase of the fire was not really enough.

  • There's been a continuing effort to strengthen the financial systems,

  • strengthen the banking system.

  • For example, in a quite successful action,

  • one that I think was very constructive,

  • the Fed working with the other banking agencies led stress tests

  • of the 19 largest U.S. banks in the spring of 2009.

  • So this was not far after the most intense phase of the crisis.

  • And what we did in an unprecedented way was to disclose

  • to the markets what the financial positions were of the major banks.

  • And those stress tests, which confirmed

  • that our banks could survive even a return to worse economic

  • and financial conditions, created a great deal of confidence in investors

  • and allowed banks to go out and raise private capital,

  • a great deal of private capital,

  • and many cases to replace the government capital they've received during,

  • during the crisis.

  • The process of stress testing has continued.

  • Just a couple of weeks ago the Fed led another round of stress tests,

  • a very demanding set of stress tests.

  • Our banks did quite well.

  • They've raised a great deal of capital even since 2009.

  • They're, in many ways, in a stronger position than they were even prior,

  • prior to the crisis in terms of capital.

  • So these are steps that are being taken to try

  • to get the banks back into full lending mode.

  • It's still a process in progress but restoring the integrity

  • and the effectiveness of the financial system is obviously part

  • of getting us back to a more normal economic situation.

  • Now just saying a few words about the lender of last resort programs.

  • As I've already argued in some lengths, the programs,

  • it did appear to be effective.

  • They arrested runs on various types of financial institutions,

  • and they restored financial market functioning.

  • The programs, which were instituted primarily in the fall of '08,

  • were mostly phased out by March of 2010.

  • And they were phased out really in two different ways.

  • First, some of the programs just came to an end.

  • But more often, what happened was that the Fed would, in making loans,

  • liquidity provision to financial institutions,

  • the Fed would charge an interest rate that was lower than the crisis rate,

  • the rate, the panic rate, but higher than normal interest rates.

  • And so as the financial system calmed down and rates came down back

  • to more normal levels, it was no longer economically attractive

  • or financially attractive for the institutions to keep borrowing from the Fed,

  • and so that the program just sort of wound down quite naturally.

  • So we didn't have to just shut them down,

  • they just basically disappeared on their own.

  • The financial risks that the Federal Reserve took in this lender

  • of last resort programs was quite-- were quite minimal.

  • As I've described, lending was mostly short term.

  • It was backed by collateral in most cases.

  • In December of 2010, we reported to Congress all the details involved

  • in 21,000 loans that the Fed made during the crisis.

  • Of those 21,000 loans, zero defaulted.

  • Every single one was paid back.

  • So even though the objective

  • of the program was stabilizing the system, it was not profit making.

  • The taxpayers did come out ahead in those loans.

  • So that was lender of last resort activity.

  • That was the tool, the fire hose, to put out the fire of the financial crisis.

  • But of course as I've described last time, the--

  • even though the crisis was contained, the impact on the U.S.

  • and global economies was severe.

  • And new, new actions were needed to help the economy recover.

  • Remembering that the two basic tools of central banks are lender

  • of last resort policy and monetary policy, we now turn to the second tool,

  • monetary policy, which was the primary tool used to try

  • to bring the economy back after the trauma of the-- of the financial crisis.

  • Now, you're all familiar with conventional monetary policies.

  • Conventional monetary policies involve management

  • of the short-term overnight interest rate called the federal funds rate.

  • By raising and lowering the short-term interest rate,

  • the Fed can influence a broader range of interest rates.

  • That in turn affects consumer spending, purchases of homes,

  • capital investment by firms and the like,

  • and that provides demand for the output of the economy

  • and can help stimulate a return to growth.

  • Just a few words on the institutional aspects.

  • Monetary policy is conducted

  • by a committee called the Federal Open Market Committee.

  • The FOMC, as it's called, meets in Washington eight times a year.

  • During the crisis, it sometimes also held video conferences.

  • When we have a meeting of the FOMC,

  • there are 19 people sitting around the table.

  • There are seven governors, the seven members of the Board of Governors,

  • who have been appointed by the President and confirmed by the Senate.

  • And then there are the 12 presidents of the 12 Reserve Banks,

  • each of whom has been found or appointed by the Board of Directors of each

  • of the Reserve Banks and then confirmed by the Board of Governors in Washington.

  • So they're 19 people around the table.

  • We all participated in the monetary policy discussion.

  • When it comes time to vote, the system is a little bit more complicated.

  • At any given meeting there are actually only 12 people who are able to vote.

  • The voters at any given meeting are the seven members of the Board of Governors,

  • currently five, we have two empty seats and we hope to get those filled soon.

  • But the seven members of the Board

  • of Governors have a permanent vote in every meeting.

  • The president of the New York Federal Reserve Bank also has a permanent vote,

  • which goes back, of course, to the beginning of the system

  • and the fact that New York remains the financial capital of the United States.

  • Of the other 11 reserve bank presidents,

  • there's a rotation system in each year four

  • of the 11 other Reserve Bank presidents' vote and then at the end of the year,

  • they move on to another set.

  • So again, there's a total of 12 votes in any given meeting or any given decision

  • on monetary policy but the entire group participates in the discussions.

  • Now, here's the federal funds rate, again,

  • the short-term interest rate that is a normal tool

  • that the Fed uses for monetary policy.

  • You can see that at the end of Chairman Greenspan's term and the beginning

  • of my term in 2006, we were in the process of raising the federal funds rate

  • in an attempt to normalize monetary policy after having easier policy earlier

  • in the decade in order to help the economy recover from the 2001 recession.

  • But in 2007, as the problems began to appear,

  • typically in the subprime mortgage market, the Fed began to cut interest rates,

  • so you can see the right side of the picture

  • as interest rates were sharply reduced.

  • And by December of 2008, the federal funds rate was reduced to a range

  • of between 0 and 25 basis points.

  • The basis point is one-hundredth of one percent,

  • so 25 basis points means 1/4 of 1 percent.

  • So, essentially by December 2008,

  • the federal funds rate was reduced basically to zero.

  • It can't be cut anymore obviously.

  • So given that, as of December of 2008,

  • conventional monetary policy was exhausted.

  • We couldn't cut the federal funds rate any further.

  • And yet, the economy clearly needed additional support.

  • Into 2009, the economy was still contracting at a rapid rate.

  • We needed something else to support recovery,

  • and so we turn to less conventional monetary policy.

  • And the main tool that we've used is what we call in the--

  • within the balance of the Fed, the large-scale asset purchases or LSAPs,

  • more properly known in the press and elsewhere as quantitative easing, or QE.

  • I won't get into why I think LSAPs is a better descriptive name,

  • but in any case, I've had to bow to the common usage.

  • But these large scale asset purchases, as I'll explain in more detail,

  • were an alternative way of easing monetary policy, again,

  • to provide support to the economy.

  • So how does this work?

  • Well, to influence longer-term rates, the Fed began to take--

  • undertake large scale purchases of Treasury and GSE mortgage-related securities.

  • So, just to be clear here, the securities

  • that the Fed has been purchasing are government-guaranteed securities,

  • either Treasury securities, that's government debt of the United States,

  • or the Fannie and Freddie securities,

  • which recall were guaranteed by the U.S. government after Fannie

  • and Freddie were taken into conservatorship.

  • There have been two major rounds of large scale asset purchases,

  • one announced at March 2009 often known as QE1,

  • and another announced in November 2010, known as QE2.

  • There have been some additional variations since then,

  • including a program to lengthen the maturity of our existing assets,

  • but these were the two bigger--

  • biggest programs in terms of the size and the impact on the balance sheet.

  • And to get-- taken together,

  • these actions boost the Fed's balance sheet by more than $2 trillion.

  • So here's a picture of the asset side of the Fed's balance sheet

  • to help us see the effects of the large scale asset purchases.

  • The green at the bottom is the traditional securities holdings.

  • So just to be absolutely clear even under all most normal circumstances,

  • the Fed always owns a substantial amount of U.S. Treasuries.

  • We owned about $800 billion plus

  • of U.S. Treasuries before the prices even began, And so in that respect,

  • there was-- it's not like we began buying them from scratch.

  • We've always owned a significant amount of these securities.

  • So the green shows sort of the baseline where we started from.

  • Now what else appeared on the Fed's balance sheet

  • on the assets side during this period?

  • The dark blue represents assets acquired or loans made during the crisis period.

  • And you can see that in late 2008,

  • our loans outstanding to financial institutions

  • and to some of these other programs rose very sharply.

  • But you can also see that as time passed and certainly by early 2010,

  • those initiatives to address financial strength had been greatly reduced.

  • If you look at the far right by the way,

  • you see a little a bump right there recently.

  • Now that's the swaps.

  • We instituted and extended the swap agreements with European Central Bank

  • and other major central banks and there has been some usage of that

  • in an attempt to try and reduce strains in Europe,

  • and that shows up as a little bump there at the far right of the picture.

  • Now again, we owned about $800 billion in Treasury securities

  • at the beginning of the crisis.

  • But as you can see from the red, labeled LSAPs,

  • we added about $2 trillion in new securities

  • to the balanced sheet during the period starting in early 2009.

  • And then at the top there, you have other assets, variety of things,

  • could be security reserves, physical assets, and other miscellaneous items.

  • Now why were we doing this?

  • Why were we buying these securities?

  • This is, by the way, an approach, which monitors like Milton Friedman

  • and others have talked about.

  • The basic idea is that when you buy treasuries in GSE securities and bring them

  • on to the balance sheet, that reduces the available supply

  • of those securities in the market.

  • Investors want to hold those securities and--

  • or they'd be willing to hold a smaller amount,

  • they have to receive a lower yield.

  • Or put in another way, if there's a smaller available supply of those securities

  • in the market, they are willing to pay a higher price for those securities,

  • which is the inverse of the yield.

  • So again by purchasing Treasury securities,

  • bringing on them on our balance sheet,

  • reducing the available supply of those Treasuries,

  • we effectively lowered the interest rate on longer-termed treasuries

  • and on GSE securities as well.

  • Moreover to the extent that investors no longer having available Treasuries

  • and GSE securities to holding their portfolios,

  • to the extent that they are induced to move to other kinds of securities,

  • like corporate bonds, that also raises the prices

  • and lowers the yields on those securities.

  • And so the net effect of these actions was to lower yields

  • across a range of securities.

  • And of course as usual, lower interest rates have supportive stimulative effects

  • on the economy.

  • So this was really a monetary policy by another name,

  • instead of focusing on the short-term rate,

  • we were focusing on longer term rates.

  • But the basic logic of lowering rates

  • to stimulate the economy is really the same.

  • Now, you might ask the question: "Well, the Fed is going out

  • and buying $2 trillion of securities.

  • Well, how do we pay for that?"

  • And the answer is that we paid for those securities

  • by crediting the bank accounts of the people who sold them to us.

  • And those accounts at the banks showed up as reserves

  • that the banks would hold with the Fed.

  • So the Fed is a bank for the banks.

  • Banks can hold deposit accounts with the Fed essentially,

  • and those are called reserve accounts.

  • And so as the purchases of securities occurred,

  • the way we paid for them was basically by increasing the amount of reserves

  • that banks had in their accounts with the Fed.

  • So you can see this-- here, this is the liability side

  • of the Fed's balance sheet.

  • Of course, assets and liabilities including capital have to be equal.

  • So the liability side had also to rise near $3 trillion, as you can see.

  • Now take a look first, as you look at this,

  • take a look first at the light blue line at the bottom.

  • The light blue line at the bottom is currency,

  • Federal Reserve notes in circulation.

  • Sometimes you hear that the Fed is printing money in order to pay

  • for the securities we acquire, and I've talked about that in some--

  • you know, in some-- in giving some conceptual examples.

  • But as a literal fact, the Fed is not printing money to acquire the securities.

  • And you could see it from the balance sheet here.

  • The light blue line is basically flat;

  • the amount of currency in circulation has not been affected by these activities.

  • What has been affected is the purple area, those are reserve balances.

  • Those are the accounts that banks, commercial banks, hold with the Fed

  • and their assets to the banking system and their liabilities with the Fed,

  • and that's basically how we pay for the-- for those securities.

  • And so the banking system has a large quantity of these reserves,

  • but they are electronic entries at the Fed.

  • They basically just sit there.

  • They're not in circulation.

  • They're not part of any broad measure of the money supply.

  • They're part of what's called the monetary base.

  • But again, they're not-- they certainly aren't cash.

  • Then there are other liabilities including Treasury accounts and a variety

  • of other things that the Fed does.

  • We act as the agent, the fiscal agent for the Treasury.

  • But the two main items you can see are the notes in circulation

  • and the reserves held by the banks.

  • So what do the LSAPs or the quantitative easing, what does it do?

  • Well, we anticipated that when we took these actions that we would able

  • to lower interest rates and that was generally successful.

  • For example as you probably know,

  • 30-year mortgage rates have fallen below 4 percent,

  • which is a historically low level, but other interest rates have fallen as well.

  • Corporate credit has fallen, the rates of interest that the corporations have

  • to pay on bonds, for example, have fallen,

  • both because the underlying safe rates have fallen but also because the spreads

  • between corporate bond rates and Treasury rates have fallen as well,

  • reflecting greater confidence in the financial markets about the economy.

  • And lower long-term rates have, in my view,

  • and I think in terms of the analysis we do at the Fed,

  • have promoted growth and recovery.

  • Although as I'll talk about,

  • the effect on housing was probably weaker than we had hoped.

  • We've got mortgage rates down very low.

  • You would think that would stimulate housing but, as you probably know,

  • the housing market has not yet recovered.

  • Now of course, always, we have a dual mandate.

  • We always have two objectives.

  • One of them is maximum employment, which we interpret to mean is trying

  • to keep the economy growing and using its full capacity,

  • and low interest rates are a way of stimulating growth

  • and trying to get people back to work.

  • But the other part of our mandate is price stability, low inflation.

  • We've been quite successful in keeping inflation low.

  • It's been a help, I would say, that Volcker in particular

  • and also Greenspan made it much easier for me

  • because they had already persuaded markets that the Fed was committed

  • to low inflation, and there's a lot of credibility the Fed has built

  • up over last 30 years or so.

  • And as a result, markets have been confident

  • that the Fed will keep inflation low, inflation expectations have stayed low.

  • And except for some swings up and down related to oil prices, overall,

  • inflation has been quite low and stable.

  • At the same time, while we've kept inflation low,

  • we've also made sure that inflation hasn't gone negative,

  • particularly around the time of QE2, November 2010,

  • there was concern that inflation had been falling.

  • It was well below normal levels.

  • And the concern was we might actually get

  • into a negative inflation or a deflation.

  • Those of you familiar with the Japanese situation understand that's been a big

  • problem for their economy now for quite a few years.

  • We certainly wanted to avoid deflation.

  • I talked about deflation also in the context of the Great Depression.

  • So, monetary ease also guarded against the risks of deflation by making sure

  • that the economy didn't get too weak.

  • Now just one more comment on large scale asset purchases.

  • A lot of people don't make a very good distinction

  • between monetary and fiscal policy.

  • And of course, I'm sure you understand they're very different tools.

  • Fiscal policy is the spending and taxation tools of the federal government.

  • Monetary policy has to do with the Fed's management of interest rates.

  • These are very different tools.

  • And in particular, when the Fed buys assets as part of a LSAP or QE program,

  • this is not a form of government spending.

  • It doesn't show up as government spending

  • because we're not actually spending money.

  • What we're doing is buying assets which at some point will be sold back

  • to the market, and so the value of that--

  • of those purchases will be earned back.

  • In fact, because the Fed gets interest, of course,

  • on the securities that we hold,

  • we actually make a very nice profit on these LSAPs.

  • What we've done over the last three years is transfer about $200 billion

  • in profits to the Treasury.

  • That money goes directly to reducing the deficit.

  • So these actions are not deficit-increasing,

  • they are in fact significantly deficit-reducing.

  • All right, so a major tool we used when we ran out of room

  • for short-term interest rates was LSAPs, asset purchases.

  • The other tool that we have used to some extent

  • as well is communication about monetary policy.

  • To the extent that we can clearly communicate what we're trying to achieve,

  • investors can better understand our objectives and our plans,

  • and that can make monetary policy more effective.

  • The Fed has made a lot of steps to become more transparent about monetary policy

  • to try to make sure people understand what we're trying to accomplish.

  • Here is one example.

  • This is a picture of me giving a press conference.

  • So four times a year, now after two-day FOMC meetings, I give a press conference

  • and answer questions about the policy decision.

  • So this is, you know, a new thing for the Fed in terms of trying to explain,

  • you know, what our policies are.

  • Another recent step that we took in terms

  • of communicating our policies more clearly was to put out a statement

  • that described our basic approach to monetary policy, and in particular,

  • gave for the first time a numerical definition of price stability.

  • Many central banks around the world already have a numerical definition

  • of price stability and we, in our statement, said that for our purposes,

  • we were going to define price stability as 2 percent inflation.

  • And so, the markets will know that over the medium term,

  • the Fed will try to hit 2 percent inflation,

  • even as it also tries to hit its objectives for growth and employment.

  • Finally, the Fed has also begun to provide guidance to investors and the public

  • about what we expect to do with the federal funds rate in the future,

  • given how we currently see the economy.

  • So given how we currently see the economy,

  • we tell the market something about where we think the rates are going to go.

  • To the extent that they-- market is--

  • better understands our plans,

  • that's going to help reduce uncertainty in financial markets.

  • And to the extent that our plans are, in some sense,

  • more aggressive than the market anticipated,

  • we'll also tend to ease policy conditions.

  • OK, so again, monetary policy has been used to try to help get

  • to the economy back on its feet.

  • The recession, which the period of contraction, which was very severe,

  • as of course I mentioned, officially came to an end.

  • There's a committee called the National Bureau of Economic Research,

  • which officially designates the beginning and end dates of recessions.

  • I was a member of that committee before I became a policymaker.

  • And they determined that this recession began in December 2007 and ended in June

  • of 2009, so it was a long recession.

  • When they say the recession ended, what that means basically is not

  • that things are back to normal; it just means that the contraction has stopped

  • and the economy is now growing again.

  • So we've been growing now for almost three years,

  • averaging about 2 and a half percent a year.

  • But as I described, we're still some distance from being back to normal.

  • So when you say the economy is no longer in recession,

  • we don't mean that things are great.

  • We just mean that we're no longer actually contracting, we're now growing.

  • So here's a picture of the sluggish economic recovery that we've had.

  • The blue line in the graph shows the path of real GDP.

  • The gray bar shows the period of the official National Bureau

  • of Economic Research recession.

  • You can see it begins in December 2007,

  • and real GDP begins to decline during that period.

  • In mid-2009, the recession is officially over.

  • And you can see since then, the blue line has been moving

  • up as the real economy has been expanding.

  • But you can also see those is-- is a comparison here.

  • What we did was, we said suppose that the economy had been recovering

  • since mid-2009 at the same average pace

  • as previous recoveries in the post-war period.

  • And that's-- that average recovery is shown by the red line.

  • And you can see by comparing that this recovery has been slower

  • than the average recovery in the post-World War II period.

  • It's actually even worse than that in a way,

  • because this was the most severe recession in the post-World War II period.

  • And so you would expect perhaps that recovery might be a little quicker

  • as the economy comes back to its normal levels,

  • but in fact it's been actually slower on average in terms of growth

  • than previous post-war recoveries.

  • Now a question, sorry, and so an implication, of course,

  • of the sluggish recovery is only very slow and proven in the unemployment rate.

  • You can see the unemployment rate rising sharply during the recession period,

  • peaking around 10 percent, and now coming slowly

  • down to its current value of about 8.3 percent.

  • That's still quite high obviously.

  • Here's housing, single family housing starts.

  • As we discussed in the last lecture, in the previous one,

  • housing starts collapsed even before the recovery-- before the recession began.

  • Of course, it was a trigger of the recession.

  • And you see how very sharply construction declined.

  • But then if you look at the most recent year or two,

  • you see that there have been a little few wiggles

  • but the housing market has not come back.

  • So, you know, this is one reason, if you think you've asked the question,

  • you know, why has this recovery been more sluggish than normal?

  • One reason certainly is the housing market.

  • In a usual recovery, housing comes back.

  • It's an important part of the recovery process.

  • The construction workers get put back to work, related industries like furniture

  • and appliances begin to expand, and that's again part of the recovery process.

  • But in this case, we haven't seen it.

  • Now, you know, why not?

  • Well, there's still a lot of structural factors in the housing market,

  • which are preventing a more robust recovery.

  • On the supply side, we still have a very high excess supply

  • of housing, a high vacancy rate.

  • The graph shows you the percentage of housing units

  • in United States which are vacant.

  • You can see that that peak at over 2 and a half percent during the recession.

  • It's come down some but still well above normal levels.

  • So, foreclosed homes, homes where the seller is unable to find a buyer.

  • There are a lot of homes on the market,

  • and that produces excess supply and falling house prices.

  • On the demand side, you might think that a lot

  • of people would be buying houses these days because one thing is true

  • about the housing market is that, the houses are really affordable.

  • Prices are down a lot; mortgage rates are low.

  • And so if you're able to buy a house, you can get an awful lot of house

  • for your monthly payment now, compared to where you were a few years ago.

  • But being able to take advantage of that affordability requires,

  • among other things, that you get a mortgage.

  • And this graph shows what's happening in the mortgage market.

  • The lines show the-- the bottom line shows the 10th percentile,

  • the top line the 90th percentile of credit scores of people receiving mortgages.

  • And you can see that before the crisis,

  • people with relatively low credit scores were able to get mortgages.

  • But since the crisis, you can see the whole bottom part

  • of that yellow area has been cut away,

  • implying that people with lower credit scores--

  • and 700 is not a terrible credit score-- are unable to get mortgages.

  • And just in general, there's been a much-there have been much tighter conditions

  • in terms of trying to find a mortgage.

  • So even though housing is very affordable and monthly payments are affordable,

  • a lot of people are unable to get mortgages.

  • So the implications for the economy with a lot of excess supply in the market;

  • with a lot of people unable to get a mortgage credit or afraid to get back

  • into the housing market; house prices have been declining,

  • as shown by the picture on the right.

  • Recently we've seen some leveling out, some flattening out,

  • but so far not much evidence of a pickup.

  • Declining house prices means it's not profitable to build new houses,

  • and so construction has been quite weak.

  • And more broadly, existing home owners, when they see their house prices down,

  • it may mean they can't get a home equity line of credit.

  • It may mean that they just feel poorer.

  • And so that affects not just their housing behavior, but also their willingness

  • and ability to buy other business services.

  • So that's one of the reasons, the declines in housing prices,

  • and to some extent also stock prices,

  • are part of the reason why consumers have been cautious

  • and less willing to spend.

  • The other major factor-- of course,

  • housing was a big reason for this crisis and recession.

  • Of course, the other major factor was the financial crisis

  • and its impact on credit markets.

  • And that is another reason why the recovery has been somewhat slower

  • than we would have hoped.

  • As I've discussed, the U.S. banking system is stronger

  • than it was three years ago.

  • The amount of capital in the banking system

  • over the last three years has increased by something like $300 billion,

  • a very significant increase.

  • And generally speaking, we're seeing credit terms getting a bit easier.

  • We're seeing expansions in bank lending in a lot of categories.

  • So there is certainly some improvement in banking and credit.

  • Nevertheless, there are still scenarios where credit remains tight.

  • I've already talked about mortgages where,

  • if you have anything less than a perfect credit score,

  • it's awfully hard to get a mortgage these days.

  • And other categories like small businesses have also found it difficult

  • to get credit.

  • And it's well known: Small businesses are an important creator of jobs.

  • And so their inability to-- the inability to start a small business

  • or to get credit to expand a small business is one

  • of the reasons why job creation has been relatively slow.

  • Another aspect of financial and credit markets has to do

  • with the European situation, which I haven't gotten into.

  • But following on the financial crisis in Europe, which was very severe alongside

  • of ours, there's now sort of a second stage whereby the solvency issues

  • of a number of countries, the concerns about whether or not countries

  • like Greece and Portugal and Ireland can pay their creditors,

  • have led to some stressed financial conditions in Europe.

  • And those have affected the U.S. by creating risk aversion and by volatility

  • in the financial markets, so that has also been a negative factor.

  • I think a lesson worth drawing from this, and when I've cited in testimony

  • and elsewhere, is that monitory policy is a powerful tool

  • but it can't solve all the problems that there are.

  • And in particular, what we're seeing in this recovery is a number

  • of structural issues relating for example to the housing market,

  • to the mortgage market, to banks, to credit extension,

  • and of course to the European situation, where other kinds of policies,

  • whether they're fiscal policies or housing policies or whatever they may be,

  • are really needed to get the economy going again.

  • So the Fed can provide stimulus.

  • It can provide low interest rates.

  • But monetary policy by itself can't solve important structural, fiscal,

  • and other problems that affect the economy.

  • All right, well this is all a bit discouraging.

  • Again, it's taking awhile to get back to where we are

  • and we're still a long way from-- where we'd like to be.

  • So let me just say a couple of words about the long run.

  • We did have, of course, a major trauma.

  • The crisis is very deep.

  • We have a lot of people who have been unemployed for a long time.

  • About 40 percent or more of all the unemployed had been unemployed

  • for six months or more.

  • And, if you're unemployed for six months or a year or two years,

  • your skills will start to atrophy,

  • and your ability to get reemployed will decline.

  • So that is a problem clearly, and then there are many other issues

  • that the United States was facing even before the crisis,

  • like federal budget deficits and those have not gone away.

  • In fact, they've gotten somewhat worse through the process of the recession.

  • So clearly, there's been some real headwinds for our economy.

  • That said, I think it's really important to understand

  • that our economy has faced many short-term shocks in the past.

  • Some not so short term, but has been able to recover.

  • We have a lot of strengths in this economy.

  • It's of course the largest economy in the world,

  • between 20 and 25 percent of all output in the world is produced

  • in the United States, even though we have something more like 6 percent

  • of the world population or less.

  • And the reason that we are so productive has to do with the diverse set

  • of industries that we have; our entrepreneurial culture,

  • which still is clearly the best in the world;

  • the flexibility of our labor markets and our capital markets;

  • and our technology, which remains one of our very strongest points.

  • Increasingly, technology has been driving economic growth.

  • And with some of the finest universities in the world and research centers

  • and as a magnet for talented people from around the world,

  • the United States has been very successful in the research and development area.

  • So, that has also been a source of ongoing growth and innovation in our economy.

  • Now again, we have weaknesses and the financial crisis highlighted a few.

  • but we've also tried of course to address that-- and I'll come back to it--

  • by strengthening our financial regulatory system.

  • Here's a picture I find kind of interesting just to put a little perspective

  • on what we've been talking about for the last few lectures.

  • The dashed line shows a constant growth rate of a little

  • over 3 percent in real terms.

  • So this is a log scale, so the straight line means a constant growth rate.

  • And you can see that the United States economy going back

  • to 1900 has grown pretty consistently around 3 percent for more than a century.

  • You can see in the 1930s, you can see the big swing

  • in as the Great Depression pulled actual output below the trend line.

  • And then you can see the movement above the trend line during World War II.

  • But look what happened after World War II,

  • we kind of went right back to the trend line.

  • There were recessions and booms and busts in the post-war period

  • but remained pretty close to the trend line.

  • Now, if you look to the very far right, you see where we are today,

  • we are below the trend line.

  • There are debates about whether or not that decline is in some way permanent.

  • But I think there's a reasonable chance looking at the long run of history

  • that the U.S. economy will return

  • to a healthy growth somewhere in the 3 percent range.

  • There are factors to take into account like changes

  • in our population growth rate and our aging of our population and so on.

  • But broadly speaking what this picture shows is that over long periods of time,

  • our economy has been successful in maintaining long-term economic growth.

  • I'll just say a few words about regulatory changes.

  • You recall that I discussed in the last couple of lectures the vulnerabilities

  • in the-- both the private and public sector in the financial system.

  • On the public side, the crisis revealed many weaknesses

  • in our regulatory system.

  • We saw what happened with Lehman Brothers and AIG,

  • and the too big to fail problem, the effects that they had on our system.

  • And more generally, the problem of lack of any attention to the broad stability

  • of the system as opposed to individual parts of the system.

  • So, there has been a very substantial amount of financial regulatory reform

  • in the United States, the biggest piece

  • of legislation is the so called Dodd-Frank Act.

  • In United States, I'm sure you know legislation is named after the chairmen

  • of the relevant committees.

  • Barney Frank is the-- was the head of the House Financial Services Committee

  • when the Democrats controlled the House and in 2010

  • and Senator Chris Dodd was the head of the House--

  • I'm sorry, the Senate Banking Committee.

  • And, so this Wall Street Reform and Consumer Protection Act,

  • passed in summer of 2010, was a comprehensive set

  • of financial reforms addressing many of the vulnerabilities

  • that I talked about earlier.

  • Now, what were these vulnerabilities?

  • Let me just remind you.

  • One of them was the fact that there was nobody sort of washing the whole system;

  • nobody looking at the entire financial system to look for risks

  • and threats to overall financial stability.

  • So, the Dodd-Frank Act, one of the main themes of the Dodd-Frank Act is to try

  • to create a systemic approach, one where regulators look at the whole system

  • and not just individual components of it.

  • So among doing that-- among the tools to do that was the creation

  • of a council called the Financial Stability Oversight Council

  • of which the Fed is a member, which helps regulators coordinate.

  • We meet regularly in this council and discuss economic

  • and financial developments and talk about ways that we can look

  • at the whole system and try to avoid various kinds of problems.

  • Moreover, the Dodd-Frank Act gave all regulators a responsibility to take

  • into account broad systemic implications

  • of their own individual regulatory and supervisory actions.

  • And in particular, the Federal Reserve has greatly restructured our supervisory

  • divisions so that we are looking now very comprehensively at a whole range

  • of financial markets and financial institutions.

  • So that we have a big picture that we didn't have before the crisis.

  • I mentioned in discussion of vulnerabilities, the rate--

  • the many gaps in the financial system.

  • There were important firms, like AIG, for example,

  • but others as well that really had no significant comprehensive oversight

  • by any regulatory agency.

  • The Dodd-Frank Act provides kind of a fail-safe

  • in that the Financial Stability Oversight Council can designate, by vote,

  • can designate any institution which it views as not being adequately regulated

  • to come under the supervision of the Federal Reserve.

  • And that's a process that's going on now.

  • So there will not be any more large complex,

  • systemically critical firms that have no oversight.

  • Likewise, the FSOC can also designate the so called "financial market utilities"

  • like a stock exchange or some other major exchange to be supervised

  • by the Fed and other agencies.

  • So those gaps are getting closed.

  • We won't have the situation that we had before the crisis.

  • Another set of problems had to do with too big to fail and dealing with firms

  • that are systemically critical.

  • The approach to dealing with too big to fail

  • or systemically critical institutions is two-pronged.

  • On the one hand, under Dodd-Frank,

  • large complex systemically important financial institutions are going

  • to face tougher supervision regulation than other firms.

  • The Federal Reserve working with international regulators has established higher

  • capital requirements that these firms will be subject to including surcharges

  • for the very largest and most systemic firms.

  • Rules like the Volcker rule which prohibit bank affiliates

  • from trading taking risky bets on their own account will try

  • to reduce the riskiness of large firms.

  • Stress tests, I talked about, will be conducted.

  • Dodd-Frank requires that large firms be stress tested by the Fed once a year

  • and conduct their own stress test once a year.

  • So we'll be comfortable, or at least, you know,

  • more comfortable that these firms can withstand a major shock

  • to the financial system.

  • Now, one part of tackling too big to fail is

  • by bringing these large complex firms under tougher scrutiny: more supervision,

  • more capital, more stress tests, more restrictions on their activities.

  • But the other side of too big to fail is well, failing.

  • In the crisis, the Fed and the other financial agencies faced a very bad choice

  • of either trying to prevent some large firms like AIG from failing,

  • which was a bad choice because it ratified too big to fail

  • and meant that the firm was not really punished for--

  • adequately punished for the risk that it took.

  • But the alternative will be to let it fail and to have huge consequences

  • for the whole financial system in the economy.

  • So that's the too big to fail problem.

  • The only way to solve that problem in the end is

  • to make it safe for a big firm to fail.

  • And one of the main elements of the Dodd-Frank Act is what's called the

  • "orderly liquidation authority," which has been given to the FDIC.

  • As you probably know, the FDIC already has the authority to shut a failing bank,

  • and it can do that quickly and efficiently over the weekend, typically.

  • And depositors are made whole.

  • And the FDIC's ability to do that has avoided, you know,

  • panics and bank runs since the 1930s.

  • Well the idea here is that the FDIC will do something similar

  • but instead it will do it for large complex firms,

  • which obviously is much tougher.

  • But in cooperation with the Fed and with regulators from other countries,

  • where in case of multinational firms, work is underway to prepare.

  • So that should it happen that a large firm comes to the brink of insolvency

  • and cannot be-- cannot find an answer, cannot find new capital for example,

  • that the ability of the Fed to intervene the way we did

  • in 2008 has been taken away.

  • We can't do it legally anymore.

  • The only option we'll have is to work with the FDIC to safely wind down the firm

  • and that will ultimately reduce,

  • or we hope eliminate the too big to fail problem.

  • There are many other aspects of the Dodd-Frank Act.

  • Remember I talked about another vulnerability was the exotic financial

  • instruments, derivatives and so on that concentrated risk.

  • There's a whole set of new rules that require more transparency

  • about derivatives position, standardizations of derivatives,

  • trading of derivatives through third parties called central counterparties.

  • The idea here is to take derivatives and those transactions out of the shadows,

  • make them available and visible to both the regulators and to the markets

  • to avoid a situation like we saw during the crisis.

  • One of the shortcomings-- and, again, here,

  • the Federal Reserve did not do as good a job as it should have

  • in protecting consumers on the mortgage front.

  • So the Dodd-Frank Act creates a new agency,

  • called the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau,

  • which is meant to protect consumers in their financial dealings,

  • and that would include things like protections

  • on the terms of mortgages, for example.

  • So there's quite a variety of these-- of aspects of Dodd-Frank.

  • It's a large and complex bill, a lot of complaining about the fact

  • that it is large and complex.

  • The regulators are doing their best to implement these rules in a way

  • that will be both effective and at the same time minimize the cost

  • to the industry and to the economy.

  • That's difficult, but it's an ongoing process.

  • We do that through an extensive process of putting out proposed rules,

  • gathering comments from the public, looking at those comments,

  • making changes to the rules and so on.

  • And so, it's an iterative process by which we develop these regulatory--

  • that put into place these regulatory standards.

  • And again, it's still very much underway.

  • So finally, let me just conclude by saying just a couple

  • of things about the future.

  • Central Banks obviously, and not just the United States but around the world,

  • have been through a very difficult and dramatic period,

  • and has required a lot of rethinking about how we manage policy,

  • how we manage our responsibilities with respect to the financial system.

  • In particular, during much of the World War II period,

  • because things were relatively stable, because financial crisis were something

  • that happened in emerging markets and not in developed countries,

  • many central banks began to view financial stability policy as kind

  • of a junior partner to monetary policy.

  • It was not as important.

  • It was something that attention was paid,

  • to but it was not something that to say an amount

  • of resources and attention was paid to.

  • Obviously, based on the crisis and what happened and the effects

  • that we're still feeling, it's now clear

  • that maintaining financial stability is just as an important a responsibility

  • as monetary and economic stability.

  • And indeed, this is, you know, very much a return to the--

  • where the Fed came from in the beginning.

  • Remember the reason that Fed was created was to try to reduce the incidents

  • of financial panics, so financial stability was the original goal

  • of creation of the Fed.

  • So now we sort of come full circle.

  • So, financial crises will always be with us.

  • That is probably unavoidable.

  • We've had financial crisis for 600 years in the Western world.

  • Periodically, they're going to be bubbles

  • or other instabilities in the financial system.

  • But given what the potential for damage is now as we've seen,

  • it's really important for central banks and other regulators

  • to do what we can first to try to anticipate or prevent a crisis.

  • But if a crisis happens, to mitigate it

  • and to make sure the system is strong enough that it will able

  • to make it through the crisis intact.

  • So again, we began by noting the two principle tools of central banks,

  • serving as lender of last resort, to prevent or mitigate financial crises

  • and using monetary policy to enhance economic stability.

  • In the Great Depression as I described, those tools were not used appropriately.

  • But in this episode, the Fed and other central banks,

  • and I should say that there's been a great convergence

  • that other major central banks have followed, or on their own have to--

  • have followed very similar policies to that of the Fed,

  • that these tools have been used actively.

  • And in my belief in any case, we avoided--

  • by doing that, we avoided much worse outcomes in terms

  • of both the financial crisis,

  • and the depth and severity of the resulting recession.

  • A new regulatory framework will be helpful.

  • But again, it's not going to solve the problem.

  • The only solution in the end is for us regulators and our successors to continue

  • to monitor the entire financial system and to try to identify problems

  • and to respond to them using the tools that we have.

  • OK. So that's-- those are my comments.

  • We have some time and I'd be happy to take your questions, Kelly.

  • Student: Thank you, Dr. Bernanke.

  • My name is Kelly Quinn.

  • In the first class, you touched upon the main street versus Wall Street divide,

  • and this has been in the back of my mind throughout the lecture series.

  • You've talked about the importance of educating the public on monetary policy.

  • And although this lecture series has definitely demystified the Fed for me,

  • I think it's really been Wall Street, not Main Street, that's been tuning in.

  • So given how unpopular bank bailouts were among many Americans struggling

  • to pay their mortgages who don't really understand the importance

  • of financial stability, do you ever see Americans reconciling these differences?

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well, you're right.

  • It's some of the same conflicts that we saw in the 19th century, you know,

  • that you see echoes of them today as well.

  • I don't have a simple answer to that question.

  • As you know, the Fed has done more outreach--

  • the press conferences and other kinds of tools--

  • to try to explain what we did and what we're doing.

  • Clearly, the Fed is very accountable.

  • We testify frequently, not just myself but other members of the Board

  • or Reserve Bank presidents.

  • We give speeches.

  • We, you know, we appear in various events and so on.

  • It's inherently difficult because the Fed is a complicated institution.

  • And as you've seen last four lectures, these are not simple issues.

  • But all we can do, I think, is do our best and hope that our educators

  • and our media and so on will, you know, begin to carry the story

  • and help people understand better.

  • So it is a difficult challenge.

  • It is a difficult challenge and it's--

  • it does reflect a tension that has been in U.S. American feelings

  • about central banks ever since the beginning.

  • Sorry, Andres.

  • Student: Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

  • My name is Andres.

  • Earlier you mentioned that the Fed had several ways

  • to unwind the large participative scale of assets,

  • including some income back into the market.

  • What guarantees that investors will be willing to buy them back in the future?

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well again there, first of all,

  • we have essentially three separate types of tools that we can use,

  • any of which by themselves would actually allow us to unwind our policies.

  • But taken together, I think, gives us a lot of comfort.

  • First of all, we have the ability to pay interest

  • on the reserves that banks hold with us.

  • So, when the time comes-- whenever that time may come,

  • whenever that time comes for the Fed to raise interest rates,

  • we can do so by raising the rate of interest we pay to banks on those reserves.

  • Banks are not going lend out the reserves that rate lower

  • than what they can earn at the Fed.

  • And so that will lock up those reserves, raise interest rates,

  • and serve to tighten monetary policy.

  • So, that one tool by itself, even if our balance sheets stayed large,

  • could tighten monetary policy.

  • The second tool we have is what's called draining tools,

  • and I won't get much into this.

  • But basically we have various ways that we can drain the reserves

  • from the banking system and replace them with other kinds

  • of liabilities even as, again,

  • the total amount of assets on our balance sheet is unchanged.

  • So, the third and final option is either to let the assets either run off

  • as they mature or to sell them.

  • And, these are Treasury securities.

  • These are government-guaranteed securities.

  • It's certainly possible that the interest rate that will prevail

  • when we sell those securities will be higher than it is today.

  • In other words, we'll have to pay a higher interest rate in order

  • to make investors willing to acquire them.

  • But actually, that will be part of the process, right?

  • That will be a time when we're trying to raise interest rates.

  • It'll be the reverse of what we did when we bought them.

  • At that point, we'll be trying to raise interest rates in order to exit

  • from the easy policy and to a policy that will allow the economy

  • to grow in a low inflationary way.

  • So, I don't think there's any danger that investors won't buy the assets.

  • They'll certainly buy them at a higher interest rate and that, in a way,

  • would be part of the objective of reducing the balance sheet would be

  • to tighten financial conditions,

  • so as to avoid inflation concerns in the future.

  • Noah. Student: Thank you.

  • So, I read an article-- and I'm sorry I don't remember the exact source--

  • and it outlaid a plan to allow homeowners who have been on time

  • with their mortgage payments to refinance at the current lower rates sort

  • of as a way to protect them from their housing prices dropping.

  • So, I was wondering whether you've heard of plans like that and what sort

  • of involvement the Fed would have or whether that would fall

  • to the Consumer Protection Agency.

  • Chairman Bernanke: So, there are some programs like that,

  • one in particular is called the HARP, H-A-R-P program,

  • and that's run by the GSCs, Fannie and Freddie

  • and by their regulator which is called the FHFA.

  • And on this program, if you are underwater in your mortgage, in other words,

  • if you're-- if you owe more on your mortgage than your house is worth,

  • you still may be able, under this program, if your mortgage is held by Fannie

  • or Freddie, you may be able to refinance at a lower interest rate,

  • which will reduce your payments.

  • So, that program is underway in being expanded.

  • It doesn't necessarily work if your mortgage is being held by a bank

  • because they're not part of this program,

  • but they may choose voluntarily to do it.

  • But, you know, you might be out of luck

  • if your mortgage is not held by Fannie and Freddie.

  • So, that-- yes, there are programs like that.

  • The Fed is not involved in them.

  • Our job has been to keep the mortgage rate low

  • and hope that we can help homeowners.

  • But programs like that, which allow people to get lower payments,

  • obviously are going to be helpful to those people

  • because they'll face less financial stress, and there'd be a smaller chance

  • that they'll end up being delinquent on their mortgage.

  • [ Pause ]

  • Student: Hi, I'm Michael Feinberg.

  • Thank you very much.

  • You mentioned in your lecture the dangers of deflation from the Great Depression

  • and more recently in Japan.

  • And one of the arguments for maintaining in target inflation rate above zero is

  • to provide cushion against possibility of deflation.

  • Yet in the last two recessions in the United States,

  • there's been a pretty significant fear of deflation causing the Fed

  • to keep monetary policy pretty very accommodative in the beginning

  • of the last decade and even more so, at this point.

  • Do you think that 2 percent is enough of a cushion to prevent deflation?

  • And have you considered higher inflation target rates?

  • Thank you.

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well, that's a great question,

  • and there's been a lot of research on it.

  • It seems like the international consensus is pretty much around 2 percent.

  • I mean almost all central banks

  • that have a target either have a 2 percent target

  • or a 1 to 3 percent target or something like that.

  • And there's a tradeoff here, 'cause on the one hand,

  • you want to have it above zero, as you say,

  • in order to avoid or reduce deflation risk.

  • But on the other hand, if inflation is too high,

  • it's going to create problems for markets.

  • It's going to make the economy less efficient.

  • And so there's a tradeoff in which one level of inflation gives you

  • at least some reasonable buffer against deflation,

  • but it's not so high that it makes markets work less well.

  • And so again, the international consensus has been around 2 percent,

  • and that's sort of where the Fed has been informally for quite a while.

  • So that's what we announced and that's, you know, for the foreseeable future,

  • that's where we plan to stay.

  • But it's obviously an issue that researchers will continue to look at trying

  • to address exactly that tradeoff that you're referring to.

  • Yeah, you.

  • Student: Thank you Chairman Bernanke.

  • My name is Yuqi Wu.

  • You mentioned one of the biggest lessons you've learned

  • from the recent financial crisis is: Monetary policy is powerful,

  • but it cannot solve all the problems, especially like the structure problems.

  • So what do you think are the effective tools that can be used

  • to solve these structural problems in like housing

  • and financial and credit markets?

  • Thank you.

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well, it depends on the particular set of problems.

  • So in the case of housing, the Federal Reserve staff wrote a white paper

  • which analyzed the number of the issues, talked about not just foreclosures,

  • but also issues like: What do you do with empty houses?

  • [The white paper] talked about issues

  • of how you get more appropriate mortgage origination conditions,

  • things of that sort.

  • We didn't come down with a list of actual recommendations because that's really

  • up to Congress and to other agencies to determine.

  • But we did go through a whole list of possible approaches,

  • which I guess I won't try to do here.

  • But housing is a very complex problem, and there are many different things

  • that could be done to try to make it work better.

  • And indeed, looking forward, given the problems with Fannie and Freddie,

  • we had some very big decisions as a country to make

  • about what our housing finance system is going to look

  • like in the longer term, so a lot of issues there.

  • In Europe, for example, you know, there has been a very complex problem.

  • We've been in close discussions with our European colleagues.

  • They've taken a number of steps.

  • They're right now talking about the so-called firewall,

  • how much money they're going to contribute to provide us protection

  • against the possibility of contagion

  • if some country defaults or fails to pay its bills.

  • So, each one of these issues has its own approach.

  • In the labor market, we have the problem of people who have been

  • out of work for a long time.

  • Obviously, one of the best ways to deal with that will be some various forms

  • of training, increasing skills.

  • So you could just go down the list.

  • And basically, anything that makes our economy more productive, more efficient,

  • and deals with some of these long-term issues related to our fiscal problems,

  • those are all things that would help.

  • And the fact that the Fed is doing what we can to try to support the recovery,

  • you know, should mean that no other policies are undertaken.

  • I think it's important that we look across the entire government and ask,

  • you know, what kinds of constructive steps can be taken

  • to make our economy stronger and to help the recovery be more sustainable.

  • You. Student: Thank you, Chairman.

  • So you mentioned that the Fed is doing what it can to, you know,

  • to sustain the recovery and--

  • but with unemployment at, you know, 8.3 percent and the housing issues

  • that you mentioned very sluggish and the problems in Europe,

  • what other tools do you think the Fed has to potentially fight off other issues

  • that we're going to have in the future?

  • Chairman Bernanke: Give me an example what's-- Student: I mean that's--

  • I guess, you know, if-- other--

  • like just other issues that let's say unemployment decides to rise

  • or the housing recovery gets worse or, you know, Portugal,

  • Spain, and Italy, you know.

  • All three of those issues so--

  • Chairman Bernanke: Oh my, oh now, you'd cost me a night's sleep now.

  • [Laughter] Well, I've described--

  • what I described today was basically, in these lectures,

  • is basically what the toolkit is

  • for the Federal Reserve and other central banks.

  • I mean, we have lender of last resort authority.

  • We still have that.

  • It's been modified in some ways by the Dodd-Frank,

  • but strengthened in some ways and reduced in some ways.

  • So between that and our financial regulatory authorities,

  • we want to make sure our financial system is strong.

  • And we've worked particularly hard to make sure that we do everything we can

  • to protect our financial system and our economy from anything

  • that might happen in Europe, you know.

  • So, that whole set of tools is still very much available

  • and in play should there be any new problems in financial markets.

  • Then on the monetary side, I've described to you,

  • I don't have any completely new monetary tools.

  • But we have the tools we've used and--

  • and our interest rate policies, and you know,

  • we can continue to use monetary policy as appropriate as the outlook changes

  • to try to achieve the appropriate recovery while still maintaining, you know,

  • price stability, which is, of course,

  • the other half of the Federal Reserve mandate.

  • So we have these two basic sets of tools.

  • We'll have to continue to use them and--

  • and continue to evaluate where the economy is going and use them appropriately.

  • We don't have, you know, lots of other tools.

  • And that's why I was saying earlier that we really need an effort

  • across different parts of the government, and indeed,

  • the private sector to do what can be done to get our economy back on its feet.

  • Max. I think this has to be the last question.

  • Student: Thank you, Dr. Chairman.

  • You spoke a lot about the economic recovery and that while it is painfully slow,

  • there is a clear recovery happening.

  • My question is, what are the key indicators that you

  • and the Federal Reserve are looking at that would suggest

  • that the private sector has begun self-sustaining this economic recovery

  • and that the Fed may begin to tighten monetary policy?

  • Chairman Bernanke: Well, that's a great question.

  • So, you know first, one set of indicators that has been looking better lately

  • and we've been paying a lot of attention to is developments in the labor market,

  • you know, jobs, unemployment rate, unemployment insurance claims, hours of work,

  • all of those indicators suggest that labor market strengthening.

  • And indeed, employment is one of our two mandates, one of our two objectives.

  • So clearly, that's something we'd like to see sustained.

  • We'd like to see a continued improvement in the labor market.

  • As I talked about in the speech I gave on Monday,

  • it's much more likely that that will be sustained if we also see increases

  • in overall demand and overall growth.

  • So we'll continue to look at indicators of consumer spending

  • and consumer sentiment, capital plans, capital expenditures,

  • indicators of optimism on the part of firms,

  • those kinds of things to see where production and demand are going to go.

  • And then, of course, as always, we have to look at the--

  • at the inflation side and-- and be comfortable

  • that price stability will be maintained

  • and that inflation will be low and stable.

  • So those are the things we'll be--

  • we'll be looking at, and the there is no simple formula.

  • But, as the economy strengthens then--

  • and becomes more self-sustaining, then at some point, obviously,

  • the need for so much support from the Fed will begin to diminish.

  • I really want to express my appreciation for the, you know, for this class.

  • I think you guys have been, you know, really obviously engaged

  • and your questions have been terrific and thanks for giving me this chance.

  • Thank you.

  • [ Applause ]

  • Dr. Tim Fort: Just a couple of things that I'd

  • like to say before we all run off.

  • And first of all, I would like to acknowledge a special guest

  • that is here today.

  • In early December, I had an e-mail from Susan Phillips

  • about the Federal Reserve's interest of having Chairman Bernanke come over to GW

  • and do some presentations, which is about as specific as we were at that time.

  • Susan Phillips is the former Dean of the GW Business School

  • and also a former Federal Reserve Governor.

  • And she is the matchmaker, she is the one who made this happen.

  • So welcome and we thank you very much [applause]

  • for what you did to make this happen.

  • Second obviously, I have to thank the Chairman and also the Chairman's staff.

  • At every turn over the last three months, I kept getting the same message

  • from them, which was "Tim, this is your class."

  • And I think that's extraordinary.

  • I mean when you get into this, agreeing to do this kind of a program, frankly,

  • you wonder whether a powerful organization like that might run over you.

  • They never did, and maybe it's because their boss is a professor himself.

  • But I could not possibly have asked for a better group of people

  • who are more respectful of the educational process in all of the planning

  • that went into this, capped by four very stimulating lectures

  • that the Chairman gave.

  • And so I would like to thank the Federal Reserve

  • and the Chairman for all of that as well.

  • Third, there're a lot of people at GW that did a heck of a lot of work for this,

  • from information technology to media relations and everybody in between.

  • So thank you all for that.

  • And then finally, by the way, students and faculty,

  • remember we're going next door.

  • We have a small little gathering with the Chairman.

  • But, I know that there is some people on the back row here,

  • and also some people who are watching here who have been enjoying this.

  • And I just want to let you know, the class has just begun.

  • We're going to be having an engaged dialogue next week

  • on the Chairman's remarks.

  • And then we're going to be looking at other issues pertaining to the Fed,

  • the constitutionality of the Fed, its independence from the political sector,

  • from the banking sector, China, Europe, sociology and finance,

  • consumer protection-- Consumer Protection Bureau, and even whether the Fed

  • and central banking might have an impact on reducing violence in the world.

  • I mean we've got a full agenda here.

  • [Laughter] And so I welcome you to come back.

  • It won't be live streamed on the Fed, but we will be recording these

  • and posting on the GW website so we can watch it afterward.

  • So, this has been a fabulous start,

  • as fabulous as a start that any class could possibly imagine to begin.

  • But we've got a lot to go and we've got some of the finest professors

  • around this university that are going to come in.

  • And so I encourage you to hang around.

  • It's going to be a great ride.

  • So again, thank you, Mr. Chairman.

  • Thank you all for coming and I look forward to the rest of the class.

  • Thank you.

  • [ Applause ]

Dr. Tim Fort: I believe we are ready to get started, everyone.

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