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Hey, it’s Marie Forleo and you are watching MarieTV, the place to be to create a business
and life you love. And this is Q&A Tuesday and today’s question comes from Miriam,
and she writes,
“Hi Marie. I really appreciate your website. It’s been a great resource for improving
myself. As a new business owner, a major thing I struggle with is shyness and speaking in
front of groups of people. I’ve realized that this is a huge hinderance and something
I need to overcome. Do you have any advice or guidance on how I can improve my speaking
skills and overcome shyness? Thank you and have a wonderful week. Miriam.”
So, Miriam, let me tell you. You are not alone. Millions of people have this same fear and,
I’ve gotta tell you, I have a special treat for you today. I have a special guest who
has helped thousands of people overcome this same fear. And I know that’s a big promise,
but what you’re gonna learn today in this MarieTV episode will change your life. And
I’m not just saying that because this guest happens to be my fiance.
Josh Pais is an actor who’s been in over 90 movies and TV shows. And he’s also the
founder of CommittedImpulse.com, high performance training for actors, artists, and entrepreneurs.
Joshie, thank you so much for being here.
Thanks for having me, baby.
So you’re one of the most brilliant people when it comes to this subject and I’ve seen
firsthand how you’ve helped thousands of people overcome this very issue. So what’s
the first step in supporting Miriam and everyone else who struggles with shyness or having
some type of thing that’s blocking them?
So, one thing that I hear in that is that Miriam wants to overcome shyness.
Right.
And maybe... maybe shyness is awesome and maybe it’s not something to overcome and
maybe trying to overcome it could be part of the... why she’s having a struggle with
it.
Well, I think that’s genius and I know that one of the things that you teach is a completely
new way to quote unquote overcome, for lack of a better word, anything that we’re struggling
with.
Yeah.
So I know, Josh, that you have 3 really simple but really profound steps to dealing with
shyness and to be able to really be your best no matter what you’re feeling. And step
number one for you is you’re a vibrator.
And that’s profound.
That is profound.
That’s profound if you’re a vibrator.
So what does that mean exactly, you’re a vibrator?
Well, what that... can I tell the story about my daddy?
Absolutely.
Ok, so my daddy was a theoretical physicist who worked with Einstein for 11 years and
I grew up in the... in Manhattan, as you know, and in the summers I would go to Brookhaven
National Laboratory and that’s where my dad, he would go off to work and he would
do his thing and I would play with kids and ride around on my bike. And sometimes I would
ride up to his office and he had a floor to ceiling blackboard. And I would come in and
he would be, like, deep in, you know, thought and he was kind of, you know, doing these
enormous calculations and some, you know, I knew the alphabet, I knew the numbers, but
there were, like, all these other images and symbols...
Symbols.
...and things that he was... that he was drawing and I would just be like, “What is he doing?”
I just remember thinking, like, all the other kids, you know, in New York, like, their dads
were, like, truck drivers or school teachers. It was, like, things that were, you know,
comprehendable to a 6 or 7 year old.
Right.
And so I was like the... “Tomorrow morning I’m gonna grill him. I’m gonna find out
what he really is doing.” And so I was like sitting in the living room and he was, like,
packing up, you know, his bag and I was like, “Ok. I’m gonna do it.” And I was like,
“So, what... what do you do? What is your job?” And... and he said, “Well, Joshua...”
and he said, “Do you see this table?” I was like, “You’re not telling me what
your job is.” And I was like, “Yes.” And he was said, “Do you see your knee?”
I was like... and then he said, “The smallest part of this table and the smallest part of
your knee, when you break it down to the absolute smallest part, it’s the same thing and it’s
atoms.” And he said, “And that’s what I explore.” He said, “I explore, like,
the building blocks of the universe.” Yeah, exactly, I was just like...
Woah.
And then he, like, picked up his bag and walked out the screen door and I was just like, “Woah,
dude.” It’s like, “I’m atoms?” And then I was like, “I’m the same as the
table.” And so why that story had such an impact on me is later in life when I was starting
acting on Broadway and movies and television, there were times when I felt... I would feel
so much emotion and sensation and shyness, you know, and I was like... and I didn't know
how to deal with it. And I tried to overcome it and then I remembered what my dad said
that my body is a mass of atoms and it really... something really shifted for me in that moment
and I... instead of looking at these feelings and they really... emotions really are vibrations
in different parts of our body.
Right.
And all of a sudden it was like how could... why should I look at this sensation, and it’s
really no more than, like, this, like, inside my chest. Why should I look at that as something
bad?
Right, like if you felt shyness...
Yeah.
...what you associated to be shyness is a certain vibration.
Right, I identify it as shyness. But the truth is it’s just atoms that are vibrating. And
that gave me a huge amount of freedom because I stopped associating it with something bad,
it was just a vibration.
Right.
And that’s why the first one is you’re a vibrator. If we can just recognize that
we vibrate and that’s just part of life and it’s not good and it’s not bad.
I think, I just wanna put a little pin in that thought, because that’s probably one
of the most profound things that you’ve ever taught me is, you know, recognizing that
as a human being and an alive human being, that we’re constantly vibrating and that
we’ve only learned to label certain emotions and certain sensations as good and bad. And
if we actually remove those labels and just really look at the pure sensations we’re
experiencing in our body, the physical sensations...
Right.
...the vibrations, so to speak...
Right.
...that we have so much more compassion for ourselves and we get out of that realm of
good and bad and we can actually just experience what it is we’re really experiencing without
all those labels that put us into a whole mental drama.
Yeah.
So, I think... I think that’s really, really profound and if people really get that, you’re
right, there’s a huge sense of freedom in it.
Yeah.
It’s really, really brilliant.
And we’re always going to vibrate.
Right, as long as we’re alive.
Yeah.
We might as well appreciate it.
Yeah. And when we’re not alive and we’re, like, floating around... like, “Remember
when I used to feel shy and vibrate?” We’ll miss all that.
Which is so sweet.
So we might as well party with it now.
Right, right. So... so step number two that you have is nickname your vibes.
Yeah.
Nickname your vibes.
Nickname them.
So tell us about nicknaming.
So, I mean, a lot of my students, you know, if they feel nervous, they... they’ll call
it, for example, shushy, you know, or whatever they choose. And, like, shushy, if you go...
if you’re about to, you know, put yourself out there, go in front of a group of people...
Yes.
...or ask for a raise or whatever and you feel this and you go, “I’m... I’m nervous,”
like, instant...
Or, “I’m shy.”
“I’m shy.” It’s like instantly... and that’s bad, we know that’s bad. But
if you just go, like, “I’m shushy,” it’s like, “Oh, ok.” Like, “I’m
shushy,” and it’s like a little, you know, Jewish leprechaun or something. It’s not...
it’s not anything bad.
Right.
You know, all of a sudden it’s just like, “Yeah, I’m vibrating and I’m gonna go
ahead with... with the task at hand.”
Right.
So maybe Miriam, you know, can come up with, you know, like maybe she can call it shazam.
I love shazam. Because imagine if Miriam was, like, stepping on stage and she was about,
you know, to go out and speak in front of, like, 100 people...
Right.
...and instantly she gave herself a reframe. Like, rather than feeling shy she’s like,
“Ooh, I feel shazam.”
“I’m shazam.”
“I’m shazam.”
“I’m shazammin’.”
“Right now.”
“Yeah, come on.”
It would kinda be energizing.
Yeah.
So I love that and I love the power of... I think reframes are really, really powerful
in our lives.
Yeah.
And I love the fact that we can have fun with this and you can name it anything you want.
Yeah.
So the third step, and this is, again, this is something really profound and I’ve...
I’ve seen your work in action now almost over a decade and it’s... it’s incredible.
Step number 3 you have is ride it, don’t hide it.
Yeah.
Ride it, don’t hide it.
Ride it, don’t hide it. And by that I mean if you take this... these vibrations that
are happening and you just recognize that it’s creative fuel and that it’s something
that’s going to propel you into action.
Yes.
As opposed to, you know, trying to breathe it away and do all our, you know, techniques
to get calm, it’s like just, like, let that... it’s just energy.
Yes.
And let it just empower you to... to do whatever there... it’s creative fuel.
Yes.
To...
To go out there.
To go out there.
You know, a few things that you’ve taught me over the years, you know, when someone
tries to hide what they’re feeling, you know, whether it’s nervous or anxiety or