Name: Ana Navarro: I credit MAGA for defying Trump on Epstein files
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This is your committee and she is embarrassing me.

You sit here and you attack the president and I am not going to have.

Almost seems like something out of a reunion episode of a Bravo show or something.

But it's interesting because Pam Bondi actually, to be honest, has not really been around all that much when we've been talking about the Epstein files, the person they've been putting out is Todd Blanche.

And now she's there on Capitol Hill and seems to be putting on a show of defiance.

But I think the real question is over what?

Over finding out the truth about a child sex ring.

It just seems like the wrong attitude for this issue.

I want there to be some iota of respect for the institution of Congress.

I think this kind of performative theatrics.

She says she's not going to get in the gutter for her theatrics or somebody else's theatrics.

Everything she did today was performative.

And I say this as somebody who has known Pam Bondi for many years.

I knew her back in Florida when she was Attorney General.

I don't think these shouting matches and, and let's just be, you know, honest about it.

When Democrats were in power in the, in Congress, the shouting matches still went on.

When Republicans are in power, the shouting matches still go.

These congressional hearings have really degraded into quiet like this.

I mean, even Trump's other attorney generals, Bill Barr, Jeff Sessions, I don't know.

The part that really bothered me today, and

I give MAGA a lot of credit, the one thing I give them credit for is not letting go of the Epstein files bone.

And there was people like Nancy Mays, like Marjorie Taylor Greene, who defied Donald Trump and voted to release these files, who end the MAGA blogosphere and podcast universe, who never let it go.

That being said, I thought today, Pam Bondi having those victims, those survivors there, and

the family of the survivors that have died, and

not having the common courtesy of at the very least turning around and acknowledging their presence.

And I do think, I do think those survivors are owed an apology by four administrations.

And she is right that Merrick Garland should have answered questions.

It is up to her to release all the files and and comply with the law that was passed.

It is up to her to give justice and closure to those survivors.

It was so shameful to me that those survivors got told and asked, raise your hand if you have called the DOJ and offered to testify.

They all raised their hands and none had been contacted by this doj, which is run by Pam Bondi, a woman from Florida who knows who Epstein is.

Yeah, I mean, pick up on that because I think the conversation today, I've been watching all the news has been about the theatrics that are happening that were happening on Capitol Hill.

But the reality is the real conversation we talk about is the survivors.

The conversation of how brave it is for them to even have been there.

One in five women in America have experienced some sort of sexual assault.

The reality is this gives us the complete picture of what this administration is.

They will do whatever to protect the their sexual assaulter in chief who was found liable for sexual assault before.

The reality is we're not having this conversation that protects women.

It continues to perpetuate this situation and this culture in America where it makes women hard to come forward and actually say this person did something extremely wrong to me.

And that's the conversation we should be having.

But I'm not surprised that this administration is deflecting from it because let's look at the first Trump administration when Kavanaugh was.

When the hearings around Kavanaugh and Professor Ford actually was brave enough to share her story.

Even if we put the Trump of it aside for a second, there were still some really bizarre moments today.

I mean, this is an interaction between Pam Bondi and Tom Massie and he's asking her why the DOJ hasn't or didn't prosecute some people who are named in the Epstein files as being co conspirators.

Are you able to track who it was that obscured Les Wexner's name as a coconspirator in an FBI document?

Here's the question and I need to give my answer on that.

We'll let the attorney General respond and then the gentleman can move to chairman.

Within 40 minutes you asked me a question.

Within 40 minutes, Wexner's name was added back.

Within 40 minutes of me catching you red handed.

There was one redaction where he's listed as a co conspirator.

I just don't know who that serves, Scott.

I mean, literally on that document, the name that is blacked out says co conspirator.

To not even acknowledge that, I think, and

then make it about Thomas Massie and his relationship with Trump or whatever seems to obscure the bigger issue, which is that there are potential perpetrators, alleged perpetrators, who are still being protected.

Well, look, I don't know how the redactions are made or not made.

And look, obviously it was brought up and then they unredacted it.

And it's three and a half million documents.

And I have always wondered, how in the world do you ever get it perfect?

And I've also wondered, you know, the danger of accidentally or whatever putting people's names out there who were victims, who shouldn't have their names out there.

Anytime you're dumping this many documents, it's.

It's been worrisome, all of that having been said this, this hearing today.

To me, look, I get the desire to fight because, look, and I agree with Anna, actually

People show up, they make speeches, they.

Then they give the witness 10 seconds to respond, then they yell at the witness.

That having been said at the doj, I think if I were advising them, I would advise them to do it more like Scott Besant handles his hearings.

He is in command of the facts, and that's how he chooses to do it.

he has a different style of how he carries himself and how he presents himself.

I think that truthfully better serves the administration because it shows more confidence in what you're doing as opposed to just the fighting and the back and forth.

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