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  • MEI: Hello, good morning, my friends.

  • For those who don't know me, my name is [? Mei. ?]

  • For those who know me, my name is still Mei.

  • I'm the jolly good fellow which nobody can deny.

  • It's my honor today to introduce fellow jolly good

  • fellow, Matthieu Ricard.

  • Now Matthieu is a very gifted scientist who became a

  • Buddhist monk.

  • He was regarded as one of the most promising scientists of

  • his generation.

  • Sorry, biologist. I took it from the web.

  • He completed his PhD thesis in 1972, before

  • most of you were born.

  • And unfortunately, he wasn't able to join

  • Google at that time.

  • So he went to Nepal instead, and became a biologist. No,

  • just kidding, he became a monk.

  • And he has lived and studied in the Himalayas for the past

  • 35 years, where he has been doing humanitarian projects.

  • Matthieu is also a bestselling author.

  • He's a translator, and he's a photographer.

  • And all these pictures, they are taken by him.

  • He's also an active participant in current

  • scientific research on meditation and the brain.

  • And in many of those studies, he is the brain

  • that they're studying.

  • When you were in high school, did they ever

  • call you the brain?

  • OK.

  • If they did, they'd be right.

  • So, Matthieu is a very happy man.

  • He's so happy he wrote an entire book on happiness.

  • And he autographed my book, so I'm very happy.

  • Thank you.

  • Matthieu is one of the most fascinating men I've ever met

  • in my life, and--

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: You only met me once, so.

  • Yeah.

  • And I meet a lot of famous people, you guys know that.

  • It is an honor and pleasure for me to welcome Matthieu

  • Ricard to our presence.

  • AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: You know, just to go on about, for those

  • who don't know him and those who know him, there is also an

  • interesting story of a Middle East wise man

  • called Mulla Nasreddin.

  • Many of you could know him.

  • And once he came into a coffee shop, and went straight to the

  • owner and asked him, did you see me enter?

  • And the guy said yes.

  • And then he asked, but, do you know me?

  • And the guy said no.

  • Then how do you know it's me?

  • So, thank you so much.

  • It's a pleasure to visit this wonderful enjoyable place,

  • where usually people in swimming trunks moving into

  • the alleys, going to the swimming pool.

  • Occasionally [INAUDIBLE]

  • as he leaves his master chef to go off to his office.

  • So I definitely would like to work there, it seems better

  • than being at home.

  • So probably I have nothing to teach you about happiness.

  • And someone told me actually I should never have written this

  • book because I never suffered very much in my life, so, the

  • last person to write a book on happiness and suffering.

  • So anyway, I thought to just share a few ideas because they

  • were very dear to me, and they brought a lot of sense of

  • fulfillment and joy to be alive, and a sense of

  • direction in life.

  • And this came through reading beings of great wisdom.

  • It sort of started like that.

  • We speak of leadership, leadership has to be someone

  • who somehow inspires you by showing you the kind of

  • potential that you could actualize.

  • Showing you what you could become, and giving you a sense

  • of direction and inspiration.

  • It's not very frequent in life.

  • And I was quite lucky in my teens to be born in a family

  • in France where my father was a well-known philosopher, so

  • we had all these great thinkers and poets at home.

  • My mother was an artist, so we had all these surrealist

  • painters and all that coming.

  • Because of musical connections when I was 16 years old, I had

  • lunch with Stravinsky himself, just for two hours with three

  • people all together.

  • And I had an uncle who was an explorer, he went around the

  • world on a sailboat without the engine after the

  • second world war.

  • And the uncle had all kinds of eccentric friends, such as one

  • when we went to see in Paris and there was a small note on

  • his door saying, I left on foot for Timbuktu,

  • and things like that.

  • So a lot of wonderful people.

  • And in science of course, the lab I was working with, with

  • three Nobel Prize of medicine, [? Jakov, ?]

  • [? Mono, ?]

  • and [? Wolf, ?]

  • at [UNINTELLIGIBLE] institute.

  • So it was very exciting.

  • There was definitely a lot of people to look at, as what

  • could I do, where could I be inspired?

  • At the same time, definitely I would have wished to play the

  • piano, you know, like [INAUDIBLE], or the chess like

  • Bobby Fischer.

  • But I don't know if you remember about Bobby Fischer,

  • but who wants to become Bobby Fischer?

  • So there was a kind of discrepancy.

  • You could take 100 governors, you would have a number of

  • wonderful people, and some governor with a quite short

  • temper and not so nice to deal with.

  • But same thing with philosopher, same thing with

  • scientist, same thing with artist. No matter what their

  • particular skill or genius was, there was no correlation

  • as such, between their human qualities and

  • their particular genius.

  • So you could try to pick up all the things and make your

  • own salad and try to--

  • but that somehow didn't seem a bit artificial.

  • Like making a [INAUDIBLE] of all that and

  • thinking is going to work.

  • So then, I was lucky enough to travel to the Himalayas, and

  • then I met something quite different.

  • Men of wisdom.

  • Men and women of wisdom.

  • And what was special about them--

  • they are all the great Tibetan teachers who have fled the

  • invasion of Tibet towards India and other places--

  • is I didn't really care so much what they knew in terms

  • of poetry, in terms of drama, and even Buddhist philosophy

  • in the beginning.

  • That was not my interest at all.

  • But what they were, that was inspiring.

  • The quality, the human quality.

  • And then I though, I want to become like them, not just

  • know what they know.

  • And so because there was a kind of--

  • the first trigger was seeing a documentary movie on those

  • great teachers, that a friend of mine made for the French

  • television.

  • And at the end of the documentary, there was a five

  • minute silence [INAUDIBLE]

  • of those meditators, and hermits, and spiritual

  • teachers, and the Dalai Lama.

  • One after the other, just silent.

  • It was so powerful.

  • It was like 20 Socrates or 20 St. Francis of Assisi, whoever

  • you feel like is represent the wisdom of humanity.

  • Just there, alive, in our time.

  • So I said, well, I should go to see.

  • And then that was very interesting, because, somehow,

  • someone like that-- and I'm going to show some images--

  • show you what you could become.

  • It's a source of inspiration.

  • Give you--

  • that this is possible, somebody made it somehow.

  • Then of course we get interested in how, but first

  • we have to see that it makes sense.

  • And so also, in the course of living in the Himalayas, I

  • know, after awhile traveling back and forth, some other

  • things became quite clear about what brings freedom or

  • fulfillment in life.

  • And it seems that we so much put our hopes and fears in the

  • outer conditions.

  • So now, let's be clear from the beginning, we want outer

  • conditions to be optimal.

  • Compared to 150 years ago when the life expectancy even in

  • Europe was like 30 years.

  • And who doesn't want to live long, to be healthy, to have

  • access to education, to have a wonderful working place,

  • harmonious human relations in one's family, with friends,

  • with people?

  • Even in country where there is peace, where there is not an

  • oppressive regime?

  • So all that we really deeply support yearn for that, and

  • that's right.

  • And we ought to develop that to the maximum we can.

  • And especially in the world where this is far from being

  • granted for many, many places of the world.

  • Where 3,000 children still die every day of malaria, and all

  • that you know.

  • And there's so much to do just to bring those

  • minimum outer condition.

  • Yet it's quite clear too, that if we only put our hopes and

  • fears in the outer world, it's not going to work in our

  • search for direction, for meaning, for genuine sense of

  • fulfillment and accomplishment, what do we

  • call genuine happiness.

  • Genuine happiness doesn't mean pleasant feelings one after

  • the other, each one more and more intense, piling them up,

  • renewing them, seeking them, and then collapsing of

  • exhaustion at the end.

  • That's not going to work.

  • So it's more like a cluster of qualities as we can develop as

  • skills, like openness, genuine altruistic love, compassion,

  • inner strength, some kind of inner peace.

  • And then that gives you a sense of confidence that's not

  • just like the false confidence of arrogance, but confidence

  • that you are less vulnerable and therefore more ready also

  • to be of service to others, and contribute to a more

  • compassionate and society that gives you a better way of

  • flourishing yourself and others.

  • And because more confidence means less feeling of

  • insecurity or fears, then more readiness to

  • be there for others.

  • So it's quite clear that the outer conditions themselves

  • are not enough, however necessary or

  • useful they might be.

  • Not enough because we also can clearly see that our state of

  • mind, the way we interpret and translate those outer

  • condition in our inner experience, are what really

  • determines states of well being and/or misery.

  • And the state of mind can easily override those outer

  • conditions.

  • We can feel terrible in a little paradise, and we can

  • feel still very strong and joyful and wish to go about

  • one's life, and contribute to the happiness of others, even

  • in the face of adversity.

  • So as the Dalai Lama once gave this striking example, if you

  • move in a very luxurious flat at the hundredth floor of a

  • high-tech skyscraper, for the first time, you just bought

  • it, and then you are totally ruined within, destroyed in

  • your heart, in your mind, all you are going to look for is a

  • window from which to jump.

  • On the other hand, you could have this great joy to be

  • alive, empathy, whatever, all those human qualities, even

  • when other conditions doesn't seem nice at all.

  • But because your state of mind is stronger.

  • And that's such fortunate situation.

  • Because imagine that to find happiness, the world would

  • have to be the image of you desire, your fancies, the

  • universe could be a vast catalog in which you could

  • order all the ingredients for happiness, forget it.

  • It's never going to happen like that.

  • There still should be 6 billion catalogs, and everyone

  • would choose different items, and they would never work.

  • This is not just it seems obvious, but great thinkers

  • thought otherwise.

  • Emmanuel Kant wrote that complete happiness will be the

  • compete fulfillment of all our desires, in quantity, quality,

  • and duration.

  • The whole idea of happiness goes to the drain.

  • This would never happen, never.

  • How could that be?

  • But anyway, impermanence is there, even you had for a

  • fraction of a second, everything to be happy.

  • Then one piece was going to be missing the next day.

  • So again, collapse.

  • It doesn't work.

  • And we know in real life, I remember, when I was going to

  • Tahiti, with the younger [INAUDIBLE] of my ministry.

  • I was the first two Buddhist monk in

  • Tahiti, it was big news.

  • So in the evening news there was big items. They found a

  • snake in the forest, there's no snake in Tahiti, and second

  • item, two Buddhist monk arrive in Tahiti.

  • So the next day we were at this wonderful

  • postcard-looking sunset in Paul Gauguin's house--

  • and he was not there-- but very beautifully lit swimming

  • pool, and sitting there and then looking at each

  • other, I said, oh.

  • If we are the owner of that it's

  • supposed to make us happy.

  • There seems to be no relation.

  • And then if that makes us happy, then what?

  • If we double the size of the swimming pool, we twice as

  • much happy?

  • So of course no relation.

  • It's the way you interpret things.

  • And we had the confirmation of that about the way of

  • interpreting the world the next morning, because Tahiti

  • looks great on postcards, but it's pretty hot and damp and

  • wet when you are there.

  • So we were sitting on a beautiful tree, and there was,

  • imagine, there was this kind of soft, mist, refreshing mist

  • falling from the tree.

  • We were sitting there.

  • Complete bliss, thinking, this is real paradise.

  • Even the trees are air-conditioned.

  • But then someone came and said, you know, those are

  • pissing flies.

  • So our perception of the world changed right away.

  • So let's assume that the inner conditions for well being are

  • really what will determine the quality of

  • everything that goes by.

  • And that's a fair assumption.

  • But then, that we're a much better position, because

  • that's our mind, the final experiencer of that.

  • At least we are not having to modify the whole

  • world to our taste.

  • But we can change our mind.

  • If we change our mind we change our world, that's the

  • world we experience.

  • So that's the idea.

  • So for that we need to identify which conditions in

  • our mind are leading to sense of fulfillment and fruition,

  • accomplishment.

  • And sense that if we look 20 years ahead, if we look back,

  • we see that somehow that's the best we could do with our

  • capacities, and we chose the right direction, something

  • that's really truly meaningful in our life.

  • So what are those conditions which will

  • nurture that quality?

  • Also the quality of every moment that passes.

  • Because after all, life is not just remembering the past and

  • projecting the future.

  • That's the quality of the present moment.

  • That's what today is made of.

  • Someone says, take care of the minutes, the hours will take

  • care of themselves.

  • So of all the minutes are unhappy, how could the hours

  • and day somehow be fulfilled?

  • So we need that quality.

  • So that has to do with states of mind.

  • And then there are states of mind which are totally

  • detrimental to the quality of that life.

  • Hatred, resentment, grudge, nagging jealousy, obsessive

  • desire, arrogance.

  • All those are just makes you feel miserable, and of course

  • they also induce you to act and speak in ways that also

  • cause suffering around you.

  • So it's a lose-lose situation, that comes to very

  • self-centered, excessive feeling of self-importance,

  • bringing everything to oneself, and trying to build

  • up a so-called selfish happiness, sometime at the

  • detriment of others' well being.

  • That's absolutely not going to work.

  • If a selfish happiness is the goal of your life, then that

  • life is soon going to be without any goal.

  • Because that simple cannot work.

  • The reason it cannot work is that excessive preoccupation

  • with oneself is a constant source of torment and being

  • vulnerable to everything.

  • Criticism, praise, failure, and success.

  • All those will take disproportionate importance,

  • will be like a storm in a glass of water.

  • And each of those will be like small balls bouncing in that

  • small, tiny bubble of the ego, and then

  • hurting you every time.

  • So we need to explode that self-centeredness bubble, and

  • let those bullets get lost in the vast space of open-minded,

  • so that we not just simply obsess, what's going to happen

  • to me, how do I feel.

  • I know this thing that is just way off is

  • buying trouble for ourself.

  • So now there are other type of emotions and mental state.

  • We definitely feel as something that is nourishing

  • the sense of well-being, like, say, loving kindness,

  • unconditional love, wanting to an act of generosity with no

  • strings attached, just mere wish of bringing some

  • happiness or relief some suffering to others.

  • And some sense of inner peace, inner strength, an inner

  • contentment.

  • So all of those together makes it a way of being.

  • And that's what genuine happiness is.

  • It's not just pleasant feelings and trying to

  • accumulate them endlessly.

  • Because pleasant feelings are so much fleeting, even you try

  • to renew them, they depend upon circumstances, upon time.

  • The changing nature from one moment to the other, something

  • that is very pleasant, like a chocolate cake, once serving

  • is great, two--

  • see, you become nauseous to the same thing

  • as change of nature.

  • The most beautiful music you can dream of, you might, if

  • you are really hooked onto it, listen three or four times at

  • the row, but imagine 24 hours nonstop.

  • What a fatigue.

  • It doesn't work.

  • And also it is something that somehow is so

  • centered upon oneself.

  • You can experience intense sensation of pleasure if

  • everyone is suffering even at the cost of

  • other making suffer.

  • It's not something that is inspiring necessarily.

  • And is so vulnerable to change.

  • Now, happiness as a way of being, as a optimal way of the

  • mind to be, will remain throughout the ups and downs,

  • to all the different emotional states.

  • And give you the resources to deal with whatever comes.

  • So rather than being dependent on the fluctuating changes of

  • ups and downs of life, that's what gives you the resources

  • to deal with those changing conditions.

  • It's like the depth of the ocean, it's always there,

  • compared to the change on the surface where there's

  • sometimes storms, sometimes beautiful weather, but if you

  • are not [INAUDIBLE] the depth, then you are in the midst of

  • that weather change on the surface with

  • nothing to refer to.

  • So it is a way of being.

  • Or a manner of being.

  • But manners need to be learned.

  • It is not [INAUDIBLE], yet it is true that we are more or

  • less born with the kind of traits, we are more or less

  • happy and extrovert kids, or kids which are a little bit

  • more violent, and some others are very sweet, and will give

  • their toys to others.

  • So we have traits, but no, those are just blueprints.

  • This is not the time to elaborate on that, but

  • epigenesis means that even you have these set of genes, at

  • any time there is something that could regulate their

  • expression.

  • There are wonderful studies now done showing that almost

  • any kind of gene that determines traits can be

  • modified by the environment, by receiving and giving love

  • and tenderness.

  • The gene can be for stress, for instance, can be blocked

  • for life, if there's a strong component of tenderness in

  • very early life.

  • And so those are just potential that we are more or

  • less gifted in the beginning, but the hard work and the

  • interaction can change that.

  • So there is this flexibility in everything.

  • In the genes, in the way we experience the world, so there

  • is margin to change.

  • And not only that, but by which kind of mystery our mind

  • and the way we experience things, would just change to

  • us happiness just because we wish to be happy?

  • Everything else in life we need to learn.

  • When we're born, this unidentified crying object

  • cannot speak, cannot walk, can do nothing, would die in few

  • days if the mother wasn't there with great love and care

  • to make that newborn baby be alive and learn, and learn

  • experience of life.

  • And so forth.

  • And then everything in our life, like going to school,

  • learning a profession, building human relationship.

  • All of that comes with learning, with emotional

  • skills, learned by experience.

  • So how come that the [INAUDIBLE] for fundamental

  • thing that determines the quality of our life would just

  • come just like that?

  • So we have to understand that we usually underestimate the

  • power or transformation of mind.

  • We think this is just life, we are like that.

  • This is the human nature to be this mixture of light and

  • shadows, quality and defect.

  • And actually that's desirable.

  • It would be terribly boring not to have jealousy, or

  • strong passions even that tear us apart.

  • That's exciting.

  • And good rule that three days of uninterrupted happiness

  • would be so boring, it's always the same.

  • My suffering is so vibrant, it always

  • changes, it's so exciting.

  • But you know, is this true?

  • I was just saying that to justify the fact that we are

  • not quite sure how to change that.

  • And then we try to make a philosophy to fit with that

  • state of affairs.

  • Because in truth, when you are sitting in a beautiful garden

  • or somewhere by a lake, with someone you love, or just

  • enjoying the beauty of nature, and feeling in harmony with

  • the world, with others, with yourself, with less inner

  • conflict, working [INAUDIBLE]

  • stars or something I that.

  • I feel really at peace.

  • Are you going to regret the tense atmosphere of the

  • emergency room of a hospital or something?

  • Or I come now when you're sitting peacefully and say,

  • please get angry right now.

  • You say, why should I?

  • I'm fine.

  • Or would you like to spend a whole afternoon

  • being terribly jealous?

  • You say no, why, it doesn't sound such a nice prospect.

  • But if I say, would you like to spend the next two, three

  • hours having compassion or loving kindness as the main

  • state of mind presently in your self?

  • You say, well, that seems pretty neat.

  • So we feel instinctively that even though we can't escape

  • for the time being those different kinds of mental

  • toxins, we'd rather be well off without them.

  • But now is it possible to change that?

  • Because we might say it's so deeply intrinsic to human

  • nature, and we can't do anything.

  • So yes, in a way, it is in human nature we all have those

  • positive and negative emotions.

  • So in that sense it is part of human nature.

  • But to be part of something there are different ways of

  • being part of something.

  • You could be part of something like the

  • whiteness of the screen.

  • That's all over the texture of the screen, and to remove that

  • you would have to destroy the screen.

  • But this is also somehow part of the screen.

  • It's there on the screen but doesn't penetrate the screen,

  • doesn't belong to the screen, doesn't remain to the screen,

  • and the screen allows it to appear, yet it is

  • not modified as such.

  • But it allows it to appear.

  • So that's the key.

  • So in order for all the mental states, mental construct you

  • arise in our mind, whether positive emotions or negative

  • ones, no matter.

  • There has to be some kind of basic

  • screen, or like the light.

  • If I show a torch light to shine on you, the light can

  • show in the garden, beautiful flowers, or

  • maybe a pile of garbage.

  • So you might say, this is beautiful, this is ugly.

  • The light allows you to see that, but the light doesn't

  • become beautiful or ugly.

  • The light is what makes that perceptible, visible.

  • Likewise, at the fundamental aspect of cognition, of the

  • mind, we call that the bay of

  • consciousness, or the pure awareness.

  • It's a kind of basic cognitive factor, and I think meditators

  • can introspectively experience that, behind

  • the screen of thought.

  • This kind of pure, aware presence.

  • Because at the luminous aspect of mind in

  • Buddhist terms, luminous--

  • not that it glows in the dark or like those [INAUDIBLE]

  • things shooting from the earth--

  • but that it is luminous compared to a dark object like

  • this stool who has no cognitive quality whatsoever.

  • So it is luminous, it's cognizant.

  • So now, that is not tainted by hatred,

  • jealousy, and so forth.

  • It allows that to occur, but it cannot be.

  • If hatred was so intrinsically [? part, ?]

  • then it would shine on everything.

  • Like if the light was beautiful in itself,

  • everything would be beautiful when you shine the light on

  • something ugly, whatever.

  • That's not the case.

  • So that [INAUDIBLE]

  • because those mental constructs are a result of

  • causes and conditions.

  • You can modify those present conditions and that's the

  • principle of mind training.

  • And that's what meditation is about.

  • Meditation has many meanings, but the root, the actual

  • literal meaning in Sanskrit, bhavana, means to cultivate.

  • And Tibetan, gom means to be familiar with something, to

  • become familiar with a new way of being, with new qualities,

  • with a perception of the world that is more

  • attuned with reality.

  • Not seeing the world as solid, autonomous, permanent objects,

  • but as a dynamic, flux, interdependent of ceaselessly

  • changing course and condition even our consciousness is a

  • stream, a dynamic stream, constantly changing.

  • And so it's also to develop qualities like compassion and

  • loving kindness, so meditation is ready

  • to cultivate something.

  • It can be to cultivate enough calm to begin with, like led

  • through mindful breathing, to let the thoughts subside a

  • little bit, and thought not being caught in that constant

  • whirlpool, then from that state we can develop those

  • qualities like compassion and loving kindness.

  • So it is something that need to be trained, and everything

  • has to be learned.

  • Otherwise the spoiled brat of our mind is going to continue

  • to run over the place, and then we have this mixture of

  • constant joy and torment, and we can do much better.

  • We say that's normal, but normal

  • state is just a pandemic.

  • We are all so much like that that we think it's normal.

  • But optimal is something else.

  • And this is possible.

  • So we can use all kinds of methods, techniques, that's

  • what the methodology, or the science, the contemplative

  • science is about.

  • Using antidotes, for instance.

  • Antidote means there are things one to one that are

  • mutually exclusive.

  • You can't in the same gesture stretch your hand friendly way

  • and give a blow.

  • You cannot in the same moment of thought, want to harm

  • someone and want to do good.

  • It is very simple, but if you think of that, the more you

  • bring, say, altruistic thoughts, thoughts of

  • benevolence in your mind, the less, at those moments, there

  • will be space for malevolence, harmful

  • thoughts, and so forth.

  • So you can imagine that, yes, we do feel moments of love and

  • moments of resentment, but we don't cultivate them.

  • We don't try to generate loving kindness and just keep

  • it flowing in our mind, and remaining in, and feeding it,

  • and preserving it for like five, ten minutes.

  • It's not something we do.

  • But that's what we need to do if we want to become that more

  • part of our mind, if we want to change our minute to minute

  • emotions, and moods, and then finally traits,

  • that's how we learn.

  • You don't learn skiing by doing it 15

  • seconds every week.

  • You have to do it a second time.

  • It won't happen without a minimum of dedication.

  • And to dedicate oneself to something and find the time

  • for it, we need to see the advantages of doing so.

  • And in case of changing one's mind,

  • advantages are quite obvious.

  • There are many other ways, but just to

  • give you a quick example.

  • [INAUDIBLE] finds his anger, and by anger I

  • mean malevolent anger.

  • Not indignation in the face of injustice

  • or massacre or something.

  • But anger that really has a component of wishing to harm.

  • And also, when we are invaded by this we are one with anger.

  • We cannot see anything else.

  • We see the other person or object of our anger as 100%

  • despicable.

  • We can't see an equality in that person.

  • And we completely associate with this anger, even though a

  • few hours later we might say, I was out of myself, I was no

  • more myself.

  • We know it as something that was like having the flu.

  • You are not the flu, but the flu grips you.

  • But then we could do something else, instead of being

  • obsessed by the trigger.

  • We could try to dissociate, and look at anger.

  • Gaze at it.

  • The role, sensation, and feeling, and emotion of anger.

  • Not the causes and circumstances that creates it.

  • Because that's the fuel.

  • That's the wood that you have constantly on the fire.

  • But look at the fire itself, forget about the wood.

  • If you do so, the fire cannot maintain itself very long.

  • Anger cannot sustain itself on its own.

  • It's just bound to vanish.

  • It melts away like the morning frost under the rising sun.

  • And that's a very skillful way of dealing, because it avoids

  • two extremes that do not work.

  • One is venting anger, that people say you should break

  • pianos and all these kind of things to feel better when

  • you're angry.

  • It doesn't work, it makes you more and more angry.

  • You get angry easily and more often.

  • Or keeping it as a time bomb somewhere in the back of your

  • mind, and then, again it doesn't work.

  • So now here you have, for the time

  • being, solved the problem.

  • You dealt with it, it vanished away, there's no trace for the

  • time being.

  • It might come back, but you start again.

  • So instead of venting it, or keeping it, which will

  • reinforce the tendency for anger, here, each time you

  • deal with it, with these very powerful intelligence of

  • dialogue with the emotions, you're

  • actually eroding the tendency.

  • And at some point you will be less likely to become angry,

  • it will be more difficult to make you angry, and you can

  • imagine some time where at least hatred, the wish to

  • willingly harm terribly someone else, could be

  • completely gone from your mind.

  • And that could be a result of my training.

  • Definitely we can enhance our compassion and so forth.

  • So it is something that's highly desirable in our life.

  • It's not just a luxury.

  • It's not just a supplementary diet or vitamin of the soul.

  • It's something that's really at the heart of every moment

  • that will go by.

  • It's something that also, with time, we can see in ourself.

  • And it really brings some change.

  • And it really brings some more openness so that we have a

  • more fruitful life, and we can [INAUDIBLE]

  • the service of others.

  • Instead of the lose/lose situation of these seeking

  • this selfish happiness and dis-considering others, when

  • we feel miserable we make others miserable.

  • Here we have a win/win situation.

  • Loving kindness and compassion are among the most positive of

  • all positive emotion.

  • And that's what we're going to show you just now.

  • And also of course, others will perceive it

  • in a positive way.

  • So I just want to show you very briefly since we speak of

  • changing your mind, changing your brain, since some years

  • now, we have been collaborating with

  • neuroscientists.

  • This is an endeavor that was started by [INAUDIBLE]

  • Dalai Lama, inspired by him into studying the influence on

  • the brain of a sustained mind training.

  • And the idea was, people who have been [INAUDIBLE]

  • as a concert violinist has been at least

  • 10,000 hours of violin.

  • And there is some areas in the brain which have changed.

  • The area that deals with the fingers, with the motor

  • coordination and all kinds of things.

  • It has vastly increased in activity, even in size.

  • So what happens, not if you learn the piano, but if you

  • learn compassion?

  • If you're training vigilance and attention, will that

  • change the brain too?

  • If that does, it means that mediation is not just blissing

  • out for a few moments under a mango tree and try to empty

  • your mind unsuccessfully, but it is really a deep change

  • that comes through mind training.

  • So that was a very interesting approach.

  • So we needed to start with experienced meditators,

  • because if there's a noticeable difference in them,

  • then we can know, [INAUDIBLE]

  • how did you reach there?

  • And start with novices.

  • If there was no difference in those experts, then don't

  • expect to find one after one week.

  • So here's the place where they came from, and well, it's

  • almost as nice in the Google campus, but it's still easier

  • to meditate there than in the subway.

  • But we can soon have a Google campus in Tibet or somewhere,

  • and I'm sure [INAUDIBLE] would be very happy to be standing

  • on top of Everest without oxygen.

  • And so those are the beautiful places where they come from.

  • And, oh, this was in Eastern Tibet August 1st, the hottest

  • day of the year.

  • And the night before we were camping, with Tibetan friends,

  • and we have a quite large tent, and it was snowing at

  • dusk, and they said, we are going to sleep outside.

  • I said, why, we have a big tent?

  • They said yes, it's summertime.

  • So they slept outside, and in the morning there was 10

  • centimeters snow on their clothes.

  • So this is what I'm fortunate to see from the window of my

  • small hermitage in the

  • Himalayas, so I can't complain.

  • And this is the example of spiritual teachers here.

  • You can see that it's some kind of beyond word, a kind of

  • human quality that we can't miss.

  • And in reality it was certainly very strong.

  • It's almost like human goodness becoming palpable.

  • That's what Paul Ekman, I think you're

  • going to receive soon.

  • One of the [INAUDIBLE] expressions of emotions,

  • that's how he described an encounter with the Dalai Lama.

  • There's something that you almost physically, none of

  • this weird vibes, but something that's so natural

  • and simple, and yet something that you can really feel.

  • A kind of strength, mixed with goodness, and solidity but at

  • the same time sensitivity.

  • I mean, it's very hard to describe, but it's really what

  • makes an extraordinarily good human being.

  • And this cat is certainly one of the fortunate ones.

  • And here's my first teacher, [UNINTELLIGIBLE].

  • This is a hermit who comes out of six years of meditation in

  • the hermitage.

  • So the question is, is he so happy because finally he's

  • coming out, or because he did six years of meditation?

  • And knowing him well, I would favor the second hypothesis

  • that it's something that he acquired through his training.

  • In Madison, Wisconsin, now the meditators have 256

  • electrodes, and there are two ways of measuring brain

  • activities.

  • One is to electroencephalogram, that has

  • a very good time resolution, thousands of a second change

  • can be recorded on the scalp, but not so clear exactly where

  • it happens in the brain.

  • So we have to combine that with FMRI, which is magnetic

  • resonance scanner, which gives us a very good three

  • dimensional analysis of where things happening in the brain,

  • brain imaging, but not so good in time-wise.

  • The resolution is one or two seconds.

  • So it's like a camera in the first case that is very fast

  • shutter speed but not so very focused.

  • Second case is very well focused but

  • slow shutter speed.

  • But if you combine both, you get both spatial and time,

  • temporal resolution.

  • So that's coming out of two and a half

  • hours in the scanner.

  • Huge relief from that mini-retreat.

  • This is Richard Davidson, the lead

  • scientist in Madison, Wisconsin.

  • Although there are other labs doing this study, in

  • Princeton, and Harvard, and Berkeley, not so far from

  • here, and more and more interest.

  • So there are many states that you can study, because

  • mediation is very varied.

  • So that you can study focused attention, mental imagery or

  • visualization, you can study compassion, and that's one of

  • the ones we have studied most. And each of these has a

  • different brain signature.

  • So compassion here--

  • I'll spare you all the reading that-- but it's the

  • unconditional feeling of love that begins with an object but

  • then becomes more and more universal to

  • all sentient beings.

  • And it's a very powerful and strong

  • feeling of loving kindness.

  • So this is the first paper we published in the PNAS.

  • And another, the actual first results.

  • So now what we need is to compare things.

  • We need to compare a meditator at rest and in meditation.

  • [INAUDIBLE] it compared meditators with control group,

  • those who are novice in meditation, and see if there's

  • a difference.

  • So we give the instructions off to them, same instructions

  • that meditator use for many years, and ask them to do it

  • for a week and come back to the lab.

  • And then, in the lab, what we do, is a minute of rest, 10

  • minutes of intense getting in the state of compassion, or

  • focused attention, whatever the subject is.

  • And then doing that again and again, 30, 40 times.

  • In out, in out, and measuring changes.

  • We did it with the experimenters, we did it with

  • the controls.

  • In case of the control, the green line

  • is the resting state.

  • The blue line is also the meditation state.

  • They try to feel something but it is not strong enough to

  • elicit a strong response in the brain.

  • Here you see with the meditators that the rest line

  • is the same, but now, when they engage in compassion

  • meditation there's a huge increase, 1200% of the brain

  • waves, particularly in the gamma range, which is

  • connected with the connections in the brain and so forth.

  • And it does happen also, interestingly enough, mostly

  • in the area of the brain which the left prefrontal cortex,

  • which has to do with positive emotions.

  • So compassion is among the most

  • powerful positive emotion.

  • And just to give you an idea, this is a huge increase.

  • Maybe there's something big happening in the brain if

  • you're about to be run over by an elephant.

  • But to go from a resting state and 15 seconds voluntarily

  • bring a powerful mental state, that's never been recorded

  • like that in neuroscience.

  • So everyone's starting to doubt.

  • Is it an artifact or something?

  • So it took almost a year to make sure that this was really

  • the result of meditation and not just something else.

  • This is just a different way of showing or displaying the

  • same result.

  • Another way, here are the controls, here the meditators,

  • it's very, very different.

  • And we also did real time monitoring.

  • When the compassion meditation takes off, increases, then the

  • meditator will just have a small keyboard with the right

  • and left arrows, he will come up.

  • One, two, three, four, five.

  • Then if you prolong that, after some minutes, he might

  • start losing it a little bit.

  • So he will go down.

  • He's not going to look at the numbers if not to be

  • influenced, but he is just changing the keys.

  • And then he will come down, maybe four, three, two.

  • And then he brings it back strongly again

  • so he will go up.

  • So these ups and downs turns out to be very closely related

  • to what is actually measured in the brain.

  • This 0.69 correlation, if some of you are statisticians.

  • There's a chance of one in 40 million times that this is

  • just random due to chance.

  • And this is now the brain imaging.

  • And here, when they [INAUDIBLE] compassion, the

  • area that is vastly activated is this left prefrontal

  • cortex, which has to do with positive emotion, joy, sense

  • of enthusiasm.

  • So compassion is, in itself, a most powerful emotion.

  • Now interestingly enough too, the blue signifies a decrease

  • of activity.

  • And that area on the right prefrontal cortex is normally

  • associated with depression, rumination, excessive

  • self-concern, negative affect.

  • So here it seemed that compassion is almost an

  • antidote to depression, which is of course a fascinating

  • avenue of research.

  • And also this aspiration to relieve suffering that comes

  • with compassion strongly reduces the activity in the

  • amygdala, which is known to be connected with fear and anger.

  • So again, compassion reduces that.

  • It also increases activity in the motor area of the brain.

  • That means compassion comes with a readiness to act, of

  • course, for the benefit of others.

  • So now attention.

  • Normally, if you have to maintain your attention very

  • sharply, you start losing it out of fatigue.

  • That's the problem of air traffic

  • controllers, for instance.

  • And if you task where you see flashing numbers very fast and

  • each time there's a zero you have to press a button, after

  • five, ten minutes you start making more and more and more

  • mistakes, and your score goes down, which is happening here.

  • But with meditators, after 10 minutes there's no change and

  • now we did that for 60 minutes, absolutely no change.

  • Two errors in 1,000 trials.

  • And they don't report to be tired, just like [INAUDIBLE]

  • flow.

  • This is precisely what the skill is about.

  • You do it naturally, perfectly,

  • without being tired.

  • But you know, these fly in the face of so much assumptions.

  • William James, the founder of modern psychology, said that

  • no one can maintain their attention more than a few

  • seconds on a given object.

  • So that seems to be quite different here.

  • And this is array of the brain which is activated in the

  • meditators when they perform this attention task, and

  • compared to the controls that just cannot do it that much.

  • So now, what about short term training?

  • You say, well, it's great for you to be in the Himalayas for

  • 20 years, what about us?

  • We can go to the swimming pool, yes.

  • There's a coffee shop around the street, yes.

  • That's quite good.

  • But what about meditation, which our dear friend is

  • trying to bring to you as a boon, an extra boon in Google?

  • What if we do 30 minutes a day for a few months?

  • Well, that's exactly what was done in a very highly stressed

  • employees' office by a company in Madison.

  • They volunteered to do 30 minutes a

  • day for three months.

  • And there was a control group we said, we'll give you the

  • training after, but please come to the lab every week.

  • So then the measurement was done before and after, so on

  • trait of anxiety, there's a bunch of questions and an

  • analyzers that determine your level of anxiety.

  • You can see here time 1, the control group and the

  • meditators, or the apprentice meditators, no difference, and

  • there was a significant difference

  • just after three months.

  • Now the left, I mentioned about this right and left side

  • activation of the brain--

  • more positive affect on one side or negative ones--

  • as you can see here, at time two--

  • I don't know why it says three here-- that the meditators are

  • much more active on the left side.

  • And surprisingly, the control group was

  • even negatively activity.

  • Because it's kind of boring, you have to come to the lab

  • without doing the meditation.

  • So they act a little bit upset at the end

  • of those three months.

  • But later they went through that training [INAUDIBLE].

  • Now interestingly enough, the immune system also is boosted.

  • And significantly, not to miss work, they have to get a

  • compulsory flu shot in November so that they don't

  • skip coming working.

  • So now, when you give a vaccine whether it will work

  • or not depends upon the strength

  • of your immune system.

  • In the first Iraq war, a vaccine that normally will

  • take 80% cases because the soldiers that were going to

  • the war were so stressed, it would only take 50%.

  • So your level of stress decreases the effectiveness of

  • the vaccine.

  • So here, those who have gone through these three months of

  • 30 minutes of meditation, their immune response was

  • boosted 20%.

  • So that also means the same strength also to fight

  • actually natural flu and other, is related to stress.

  • And now the stress level, which measured with cortisol

  • in the saliva.

  • On the meditators it's four times less than

  • in the control group.

  • That's not with the novice meditator, that's with the

  • people doing long retreats.

  • So there's definitely an effect in those preliminary

  • studies, even for short term.

  • I mean not short term, but a short amount of time every

  • day, already in three months, show a significant effect.

  • And then maybe next year, by something that might make the

  • big time news, we are now studying the aging process,

  • which has to do, some of you might know, at the end of the

  • DNA, the chromosome, they are freed and telomere, it's a

  • single-branded DNA, and it's shortened with age.

  • Now it seems the preliminary result, I'll tell you just

  • between you and me, after three months of intensive

  • meditation, that's not 30 minutes a day, that's more

  • like a in a meditation workshop for three months, a

  • significant decrease of the elimination of the telomere.

  • So wow, that would be big news isn't it?

  • Stay young, meditate.

  • So now, to come back to the outer condition, which I

  • mentioned at beginning.

  • Now we often see people who are extremely

  • rich, extremely powerful.

  • On top of that they might be strong and beautiful.

  • And you hear they are depressed and so forth.

  • You say, what's wrong with these guys?

  • If I had all that, I would be happy.

  • Why is that's not the case?

  • Of course, for money, which is one of the obvious candidates,

  • if you are below the poverty line and can't feed your kids,

  • and suffer terrible conditions, yes.

  • To go above that can make a huge difference in the quality

  • of your life.

  • But now, after that, behind that, then doubling, tripling

  • just doesn't make any difference.

  • Here is the GDP in the Unites States.

  • Three times increased from 46 to 96.

  • The gross national happiness,

  • stationary, even slight decrease.

  • Now marriage buy you happiness, here you are.

  • Times zero, five years later.

  • Well, you know Richard Davidson who gave me that

  • slide said, you know, I've been married, happy, for 30

  • years, but that's what has come out of the study.

  • Yet, there's another data that shows, it's still better, a

  • happier reported life, for people who are married or live

  • in companionship rather than people who

  • are single or separated.

  • But relatedly, the change of happiness basically you come

  • back where we were.

  • And now widowhood, you'll recover from it also.

  • So external factors only have a limited effect on our level

  • of happiness.

  • They do have, but all together, if you bring all the

  • social factors [INAUDIBLE]

  • thousands of studies over now 70 years, basically they

  • contribute to something, but only about 15% percent of your

  • reported happiness.

  • People differ in their emotional disposition or

  • affective style.

  • And though this condition are relative stable, if you win

  • the lottery you are completely happy, one year later you more

  • or less come back to same level.

  • It can be changed, that's the point.

  • Meditation has demonstrable effects on the brain and may

  • represent one of the few ways in which purely mental

  • training has been demonstrated to have robust

  • impact on brain function.

  • And this is a meditator and these are the monks escaping

  • from the lab.

  • So now, here you might say well, there's a

  • contradiction here.

  • You say that happiness can be trained, and we just showed

  • that, you know, before/after marriage,

  • before/after widowhood.

  • Money doesn't make any difference.

  • So then what?

  • If it's that stable, what's the point of meditating?

  • You're going to make just another of the small

  • peaks and come down.

  • So what's the point?

  • Well, remember what I mentioned in the beginning.

  • Genuine happiness as a way of being is not the peaks of joy

  • and pleasant and then the lows of depression and so forth.

  • This is the ups and downs.

  • But when you go up and down, you go up and down above and

  • below a baseline.

  • So here, meditation and mind training

  • is raising the baseline.

  • The platform in which you stand in life, the place where

  • you come back.

  • Those ups and downs is going to happen.

  • Maybe you'll be less vulnerable to them, less

  • carried away by them, less affected or impacted by them

  • so that you maintain this sense of direction,

  • of meaning in life.

  • But you can change that.

  • And so that's really worth it endeavor in life.

  • And also, to get the inspiration to do that, we

  • need to identify some kind of potential that

  • we have within ourself.

  • We need to at some point sit quietly and say, what really

  • matters for me in life?

  • What do I really want to accomplish in life?

  • Not just feeling questioners, and after you pass some test,

  • and things like that, and then putting that in the machine or

  • in the computer, or going to a professional orientation, and

  • then say, OK, you have this, this, this, that's what you

  • are good for.

  • But really feel what deeply you would like

  • to spend your life.

  • So that 20 years later, when you look back, you say, I did

  • my best, that's what I wanted to do, I have a sense of

  • fulfillment, of accomplishment.

  • Otherwise, what's the point?

  • Even you succeeded in this, this this, this, that, and you

  • feel not so--

  • some sense of accomplishment that's not there, sense of

  • fulfillment that was worth it for living that way.

  • That's what we want.

  • So I think it's so important to identify within ourself

  • what really matters.

  • And then find a way, that's always find a way to

  • accomplish it.

  • So, I think, if meditation could be as in mind training,

  • not taking the exotic aspect, or Oriental aspect of it, it

  • could become a genuine contribution to a more open,

  • compassionate society, and also to the

  • quality of our life.

  • So, thank you for your attention.

  • [INAUDIBLE]

  • AUDIENCE: [APPLAUSE]

  • MEI: I think we have time for some questions, does anybody

  • have any questions?

  • AUDIENCE: Thank you very much, that was fascinating.

  • I'm just curious, with the power of meditation, to change

  • some of the brain wave behavior, for children now

  • with Asberger's, where there's some brain dysfunction, have

  • you heard about any research in that?

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: Well, you know, all this is quite

  • preliminary.

  • There's been some--

  • well, we have formed a sub-group on education.

  • This is spearheaded by the Mind and Life Institute which

  • doesn't do research but sort of bring

  • together all these people.

  • And we have now a strong--

  • since last year, we've really trying to study education not

  • only from educators and [INAUDIBLE], but bringing

  • together psychologists, educators, social workers,

  • neuroscientists, and contemplatives.

  • And I think that's one of the first times that this happened

  • in this very good level of science and contemplation.

  • So there have been obvious ideas of dealing with children

  • which have attention deficit.

  • So this is really beginning approach, but that's part of

  • what we would like to contribute.

  • More like a secular approach to those things, not just the

  • Buddhist label.

  • There's nothing wrong with the Buddhist label, but it might

  • look too much like a religious approach and then deprive the

  • tools for actually serving society in a different way.

  • So I have a friend of mine in France who started that in his

  • school, he called it secular training to attention, looks

  • very good, and everybody is happy about that.

  • Well, I think this is the way to go.

  • AUDIENCE: And so you said it's the Heart and Mind institute?

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: No, the Mind and Life Institute.

  • There's a website.

  • AUDIENCE: Mind and Life.

  • Great, thank you.

  • AUDIENCE: Hi, I keep hearing the number 10,000.

  • In tens of thousands of hours of training.

  • And it's really cool to see the FMRI effects of

  • meditation, but I'm also curious if there have been

  • advances in training, so that random people who can't go to

  • the Himalayas for 20 years--

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: Yes, that's exactly why we--

  • AUDIENCE: --a simpler biofeedback kind of thing,

  • where people can recognize the state, like the monk who was

  • pressing the keys on the keyboard.

  • He knew what he was feeling.

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: Well, we have been thinking of feedback.

  • I know when we start to be hooked on the set of

  • electroencephalogram, and we can look, and you can start

  • generating compassion and you see those gamma waves going

  • zzzz, it's kind of fun.

  • But at the same time, it's a little bit interfering.

  • Suppose I see myself in my hermitage, I don't want to

  • watch that screen on brain waves.

  • And [INAUDIBLE]

  • I know I've tried to make it go up.

  • I think this is more like a distraction.

  • But I think again, to the 10,000 argument, that's why we

  • do neurological studies, and our goal is, if there are

  • robust results-- there was one groundbreaking paper in PNAS

  • two years ago.

  • And on the stream of coming this year which will really

  • establish that contemplative science field, maybe better.

  • But the real goal is once there's been robust study with

  • the experimenters, it's really to go to everyone.

  • Otherwise it's just a curiosity.

  • But if it really applies, and knowing about that company,

  • [? 70 ?] can apply here.

  • AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

  • AUDIENCE: I'm wondering, so when you're an expert

  • meditator, you have an average level of happiness that is

  • higher than otherwise.

  • What if you stop meditating?

  • How long does it take to go down?

  • Is it something that lasts for long, ever, or not at all?

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: Well, you know, the idea of stopping

  • meditating for 20 years to see how miserable I would become,

  • that's not exactly--

  • I mean, we need very determined volunteers.

  • It's like the kamikaze of happiness.

  • AUDIENCE: [LAUGHTER]

  • AUDIENCE: But it becomes like a medicine that you have to

  • take forever?

  • MATTHIEU RICARD: No, I think, you know, there are things

  • like skiing.

  • I haven't skied for 35 years, and I could show you a photo

  • last year, it was a joy after two hours to be

  • able to ski as before.

  • So I think there is something that is so deeply changed,

  • that it certainly remain as it were.

  • That's that point of well-being, of a baseline.

  • It takes time to acquire it, but because of that, it has a

  • really strong and firm foundation.

  • I'm really convinced of that.

  • And actually that's the real test. We say it's fine if the

  • meditators are sitting in the sun, basking in the sun with

  • full belly.

  • No problem.

  • Meditation is always good.

  • But then confronted with adverse circumstances, that's

  • where he or she is put on the scales.

  • And I think that's where in daily life you can see--

  • and what we need is slow change.

  • The fireworks of mystical experiences don't last, but

  • it's like the arm of the clock.

  • When you stare at it it seems not moving, but when you look

  • from time to time it has changed.

  • So those changes are slow, hence the

  • need for mind training.

  • But because they are slow, they are much more likely to

  • be stable, and that's the idea.

  • The brain won't degenerate too quickly, hopefully, and then

  • your experience also.

  • I think it's something that, at some point, there's a kind

  • of a sort of a no return point in this kind of baseline.

  • Thank you.

  • Thank you so much for your attention.

MEI: Hello, good morning, my friends.

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