Name: AI Is Dangerous, but Not for the Reasons You Think | Sasha Luccioni | TED
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I've been an AI researcher for over a decade, and a couple of months ago, I got the weirdest email of my career.

A random stranger wrote to me saying that my work in AI is going to end humanity.

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Now, I get it, AI, it's so hot right now.

It's in the headlines pretty much every day, sometimes because of really cool things like discovering new molecules for medicine, or that dope Pope in the white puffer coat.

But other times, the headlines have been really dark, like that chatbot telling that guy that he should divorce his wife, or that AI meal planner app proposing a crowd-pleasing recipe featuring chlorine gas.

And in the background, we've heard a lot of talk about doomsday scenarios, existential risk, and the singularity with letters being written and events being organized to make sure that doesn't happen.

Now, I'm a researcher who studies AI's impact on society.

And I don't know what's going to happen in 10 or 20 years, and nobody really does.

But what I do know is that there's some pretty nasty things going on right now.

It is part of society, and it has impacts on people and the planet.

AI models can contribute to climate change.

Their training data uses art and books created by artists and authors without their consent.

And its deployment can discriminate against entire communities.

But we need to start tracking its impacts.

We need to start being transparent and disclosing them, and creating tools so that people understand AI better.

So that hopefully, future generations of AI model are going to be more trustworthy, sustainable, maybe less likely to kill us, if that's what you're into.

Because that cloud that AI models live on is actually made out of metal, plastic, and powered by vast amounts of energy.

And each time you query an AI model, it comes with a cost to the planet.

Last year, I was part of the Big Science Initiative, which brought together 1,000 researchers from all over the world to create Bloom, the first open large language model, like JATJBT, but with an emphasis on ethics, transparency, and consent.

And the study I led that looked at Bloom's environmental impacts found that just training it used as much energy as 30 homes in a whole year, and emitted 25 tons of carbon dioxide, which is like driving your car five times around the planet, just so somebody can use this model to tell a knock-knock joke.

And this might not seem like a lot, but other similar large language models, like GPT-3, emit 20 times more carbon.

But the thing is, tech companies aren't measuring this stuff.

And so this is probably only the tip of the iceberg, even if it is a melting one.

And in recent years, we've seen AI models balloon in size.

Because the current trend in AI is, bigger is better.

But please don't get me started on why that's the case.

In any case, we've seen large language models in particular grow 2,000 times in size over the last five years.

And of course, their environmental costs are rising as well.

The most recent work I led found that switching out a smaller, more efficient model for a larger language model emits 14 times more carbon for the same task, like telling that knock-knock joke.

And as we're putting in these models into cell phones and search engines and smart fridges and speakers, the environmental costs are really piling up quickly.

So instead of focusing on some future existential risks, let's talk about current tangible impacts and tools we can create to measure and mitigate these impacts.

I helped create CodeCarbon, a tool that runs in parallel to AI training code that estimates the amount of energy it consumes and the amount of carbon it emits.

And using a tool like this can help us make informed choices, like choosing one model over the other because it's more sustainable, or deploying AI models on renewable energy, which can drastically reduce their emissions.

But let's talk about other things, because there's other impacts of AI apart from sustainability.

For example, it's been really hard for artists and authors to prove that their life's work has been used for training AI models without their consent.

And if you want to sue someone, you tend to need proof, right?

So Spawning AI, an organization that was founded by artists, created this really cool tool called Have I Been Trained?

And it lets you search these massive data sets to see what they have on you.

I searched Lion 5B, which is this huge data set of images and text, to see if any images of me were in there.

Now those two first images, that's me from events I've spoken at.

But the rest of the images, none of those are me.

They're probably of other women named Sasha who put photographs of themselves up on the internet.

And this can probably explain why when I query an image generation model to generate a photograph of a woman named Sasha, more often than not I get images of bikini models.

Sometimes they have two arms, sometimes they have three arms, but they rarely have any clothes on.

And why it can be interesting for people like you and me to search these data sets.

For artists like Carla Ortiz, this provides crucial evidence that her life's work, her And she and two artists used this as evidence to file a class action lawsuit against AI companies for copyright infringement.

And most recently Spawning AI partnered up with Hugging Face, the company where I work at, to create opt-in and opt-out mechanisms for creating these data sets.

Because artwork created by humans shouldn't be an all-you-can-eat buffet for training AI language models.

The very last thing I want to talk about is bias.

Formally speaking, it's when AI models encode patterns and beliefs that can represent stereotypes or racism and sexism.

One of my heroes, Dr. Joy Bolognini, experienced this firsthand when she realized that AI systems wouldn't even detect her face unless she was wearing a white-colored mask.

Digging deeper, she found that common facial recognition systems were vastly worse for women of color compared to white men.

And when models like this, biased models like this, are deployed in law enforcement settings, this can result in false accusations, even wrongful imprisonment, which we've seen happen to multiple people in recent months.

For example, Portia Woodruff was wrongfully accused of carjacking at eight months pregnant because an AI system wrongfully identified her.

But sadly, these systems are black boxes, and even their creators can't say exactly why they work the way they do.

And for example, for image generation systems, if you're used in contexts like generating a forensic sketch based on a description of a perpetrator, they take all those biases and they spit them back out for terms like dangerous criminal, terrorist or gang member, which of course is super dangerous when these tools are deployed in society.

And so in order to understand these tools better, I created this tool called the Stable Bias Explorer, which lets you explore the bias of image generation models through the lens of professions.

So try to picture a scientist in your mind.

Men in glasses and lab coats, and none of them look like me.

And the thing is, is that we looked at all these different image generation models and found a lot of the same thing.

Significant representation of whiteness and masculinity across all 150 professions that we looked at.

Even if compared to the real world, the US Labor Bureau of Statistics, these models show lawyers as men and CEOs as men almost 100% of the time, even though we all know not all of them are white and male.

And sadly, my tool hasn't been used to write legislation yet.

But I recently presented it at a UN event about gender bias as an example of how we can make tools for people from all walks of life, even those who don't know how to code, to engage with and better understand AI, because we use professions, but you can use any terms that are of interest to you.

And as these models are being deployed, are being woven into the very fabric of our societies, our cell phones, our social media feeds, even our justice systems and our economies have AI in them.

And it's really important that AI stays accessible so that we know both how it works and when it doesn't work.

And there's no single solution for really complex things like bias or copyright or climate change.

But by creating tools to measure AI's impact, we can start getting an idea of how bad they are and start addressing them as we go.

Start creating guardrails to protect society and the planet.

And once we have this information, companies can use it in order to say, OK, we're going to choose this model because it's more sustainable, this model because it respects copyright.

Legislators who really need information to write laws can use these tools to develop new regulation mechanisms or governance for AI as it gets deployed into society.

And users like you and me can use this information to choose AI models that we can trust not to misrepresent us and not to misuse our data.

But what did I reply to that email that said that my work is going to destroy humanity?

I said that focusing on AI's future existential risks is a distraction from its current very tangible impacts and the work we should be doing right now or even yesterday for reducing these impacts.

Because, yes, AI is moving quickly, but it's not a done deal.

We're building the road as we walk it, and we can collectively decide what direction we want to go in together.

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