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  • Now, researchers say that radio waves from Elon Musk's growing network of satellites are blocking scientists' ability to peer into the universe.

  • The scientists say that the new generation of Starlink satellites, which provide fast internet around the world, are interfering more with telescopes.

  • They say the thousands of orbiting spacecraft may be hindering astronomical research, while SpaceX, which owns them, hasn't commented.

  • With me is Dr Emma Gatti, a former NASA scientist and editor at Spacewatch Global.

  • Thanks for joining us.

  • How much of a problem is this?

  • Well, it is a problem.

  • It is a problem because radio astronomy especially relies on the ability to see stars very far away, very far distant from us.

  • And with all these satellites, they're basically blinded because the satellites are so much closer to Earth than what they're trying to observe.

  • So it is a problem indeed, absolutely.

  • But obviously the satellites have a function in terms of providing fast internet, often to troubled parts of the world.

  • How could this be sorted out?

  • Should it be regulated?

  • Is it regulated?

  • So it's a kind of complex answer because what is regulated is the fact that satellites cannot transmit in certain bands.

  • So certain bands, radio bands, are completely off for satellites.

  • So theoretically these bands are reserved for science.

  • The problem is that we have so many satellites that they kind of emit as a sort of mistake.

  • So it's not the satellites that is emitting, because theoretically it cannot, but all the equipment, all the electrical circuits in the satellites are kind of producing a backdrop of emission.

  • And this is impossible to regulate.

  • They cannot stop it.

  • And this is where the problem arises.

  • So it's a kind of like secondary effect.

  • Okay.

  • And so what sort of research is not being able to be carried out as a result?

  • The entire field of radio astronomy is struggling completely because we are at the moment having 11,000 satellites and they are really struggling.

  • And we plan to have 100,000 satellites in 10 years.

  • So you can imagine that this means fundamentally a complete stop at the entire field of radio astronomy.

  • Radio astronomy is that kind of astronomy that is using radio frequencies to observe the farthest object in our universe.

  • So that's an entire field of science that is struggling and we struggle even more.

  • Okay.

  • And just explain for us what a satellite is.

  • We're seeing some fly by and you say that they sort of blind the researchers and therefore they can't see.

  • Is it as simple as that?

  • I'm sure it's not.

  • So there are two ways in which a satellite can disturb.

  • It can visually disturb because the satellite itself is not a bright object.

  • It doesn't have any light.

  • But if it gets hit by the sun, it becomes bright.

  • So it can disturb what we call visual astronomy.

  • But then it can also disturb through radio emissions.

  • So yes, several ways to disturb.

  • Emma Gatti, I'm so sorry, I asked you a really big question and I only have 30 seconds so that was entirely my fault.

  • But thank you so much for talking us through it.

  • It's a really complex area.

  • There's a great piece online if people want to find out a bit more.

Now, researchers say that radio waves from Elon Musk's growing network of satellites are blocking scientists' ability to peer into the universe.

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