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  • - We're showing Pitchfork HARDY.

  • - Pitchfork needs to review this tonight.

  • If I don't see a fucking 10 on this shit!

  • [chill hip-hop music]

  • [airplane seatbelt sign chime]

  • - I listen to our record on planes, too.

  • - Totally.

  • - And like, not, not all the time.

  • I think it's cause like, being on a plane

  • is like a death flavored experience.

  • And so I'm like, I want to interact

  • with what I'm leaving behind.

  • [girls laughing]

  • So I'm like, I can stand by this.

  • Why are you doing this to me?

  • - I was gonna say...

  • - I didn't say anything wrong.

  • Let's just -

  • - No, exactly.

  • Didn't you also say you listened to the Ethel Cain album?

  • - Oh, I did.

  • - Oh, but that's in the airport.

  • I'm just like really emotional on planes.

  • Everybody is,

  • it's something about the air and the death...

  • - Flavor?

  • - The death flavor. The experience.

  • - I give myself the gift of listening to my voice notes.

  • I don't listen to my voice notes or my ideas

  • really in any other context other than on airplanes.

  • So even if I'm not -

  • It's funny, cause it used to be just like, plane wifi sucks,

  • and I don't even want to engage with it.

  • So I'm just on my phone as this thing

  • that has all my ideas on it.

  • In the only time in my life,

  • and I'm on plane so much that it works, somehow,

  • creatively for me.

  • But, even if I'm on the ground and I have data,

  • I have started the process of -

  • - Mm, I see.

  • - Listening to all my shit,

  • and labeling all my voice notes.

  • - Yeah.

  • - I use that for like my music research.

  • When somebody's like, this is a really great record.

  • I take it offline, and then I'm like,

  • "Oh wow, I've never listened start to finish

  • through this new Four Tet collab record."

  • And then I give myself the gift of being

  • like fully tuned to it.

  • Or like, yeah.

  • The other day I was driving in the rain,

  • this is doing this way, the opposite.

  • But I was driving in the rain

  • at like six in the morning,

  • and it was like all misty

  • in the middle of nowhere in Tennessee.

  • And it was like Mary Lattimore harp,

  • and I was like, I'm in a movie.

  • - Favorite ever shit!

  • [laughing]

  • - Love to curate my music like I'm in movie about my life.

  • - I went to five proms,

  • so I should have more answers for this.

  • Yeah Yeah Yeahs,

  • a lot of local bands, like Richmond local bands

  • in high school.

  • - I skipped a prom.

  • I was like, I can't be bothered with that.

  • So I'm like,

  • what was my like hype music when I was a senior?

  • But then I'm like, it's either gonna be Colour Revolt

  • or it's gonna be the like "Thank Me Later."

  • Used to get hype on the way to school

  • by "Handlebars" by Flobots.

  • - Oh, of course.

  • - That song goes off so hard at the end.

  • - Me and my best friend, Hailey Doll pulled up

  • beside the yacht where senior prom was happening

  • and played "Free Bird" out of

  • her high school boyfriend's truck,

  • And like, interpretive danced to "Free Bird,"

  • and the whole side of the yacht,

  • just like, everybody's like watching us do that.

  • The entirety of "Free Bird."

  • - That's some manic pixie dream girl shit.

  • - Deeply, yeah. The movie.

  • I remember being like, this is as good

  • as the memory's gonna be in this moment.

  • - Aw. - Aw!

  • [vacuum starting]

  • - "99% Invisible."

  • - Podcast for chores?

  • - Podcast for chores.

  • - Mm.

  • I've been listening to the new "Caroline Polachek"

  • a lot while doing chores.

  • Cause, I can just like bounce around.

  • - The new SZA record.

  • - Mhm. - Same.

  • - It's so easy to just like also be by myself

  • in my house cleaning and be like faking singing,

  • like I sing like that.

  • - I know. - It's nice.

  • - Are you ever filming like on your phone, side stage?

  • It's especially quiet where you are,

  • but to your phone...

  • So, your phone's hearing you the loudest,

  • and then you play the video later

  • and it's like -

  • [uncomfortable bad singing]

  • [girls laughing]

  • - That's me, with my cans on, like cleaning.

  • - Or your Sonos freaks out?

  • - I've done that at your shows.

  • I've been like singing along and just like,

  • [singing pitchy]

  • [girls laughing]

  • [crowd roaring]

  • - When am I ever doing that?

  • I'm gonna give the three-headed monster answer,

  • which is "SOLD OUT" by HARDY.

  • [gasping excitedly]

  • - Yeah. - Yeah.

  • - Or "I AIN'T IN THE COUNTRY NO MORE,"

  • or "TRUCK BED."

  • I listen to that record.

  • - Or "He Went to Jared."

  • - Or "RADIO SONG," which is my new favorite.

  • - Or "BOOTS."

  • - Oh my God, featuring Jeremy McKinnon.

  • I was like, did this motherfucker really?

  • - We love HARDY.

  • - We love HARDY.

  • - We saw HARDY in LA recently, and I lost brain cells.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Doing that.

  • [girls laughing]

  • - Yeah.

  • - The songwriting is excellent.

  • It's funny, it's concise.

  • It's like, visual.

  • It's gutsy.

  • - Musically complex.

  • - It's musically complex.

  • He's like playing with tropes.

  • - That's the thing, too.

  • It feels precise.

  • It feels like he's like,

  • he understands the assignment enough

  • to make a variation on a theme

  • that is different enough,

  • and yet self-aware,

  • to adhere to the conventions of the genre,

  • and then like put it on top of Nu Metal.

  • And it scratches a really tiny Venn diagram place

  • in my brain that not a lot of things do.

  • - Yes. - Mhm.

  • - It's the only thing, I think, that scratches that itch:

  • HARDY

  • - There's more of it, and it's not...

  • - There's nothing like it.

  • - There's more people trying to do it, and it's not good.

  • It's the right intersection of character and genuine.

  • - Yes.

  • - It's like, it's a caricature of what a real person is.

  • You know what I mean?

  • - It also feels wrong that we're talking this much about it.

  • Like, intellectualizing HARDY is wrong.

  • - Is it?

  • - But it's possible.

  • It's just wrong.

  • Like you can just enjoy that shit.

  • - I know, I'm gonna listen to it after this.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Cause I have to cleanse my brain.

  • Have you guys heard this?