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  • We have a lot of choices to make about our diet.

  • Add to that, doing the right thing

  • when it comes to preventing

  • and treating a chronic disease,

  • fighting a virus, or losing weight,

  • and suddenly our nutrition choices

  • can seem almost overwhelming.

  • Well, I’m here to help.

  • Welcome to the Nutrition Facts Podcast.

  • I’m your host, Dr. Michael Greger.

  • Today, it all comes down

  • to the shape and support of our body,

  • the protection of our organs and those things

  • without which we would quickly become a gelatinous mass

  • our bones!

  • In our first story,

  • we look at how those eating plant-based diets

  • may be so slim, that they suffer from a loss of bone mass.

  • Osteoporosis is estimated to affect 200 million people worldwide.

  • Literally meaning "porous bone ," osteoporosis is a disease

  • characterized by reduced bone formation, excessive bone loss,

  • or a combination of both, leading to bone fragility

  • and increased risk of fractures.

  • And bone mineral density is the most robust and consistent predictor

  • of osteoporotic fracture. What can we eat to boost our bone density?

  • Well, we know that increased consumption of plant foods

  • is associated with increased bone mineral density.

  • There's an extensive range of micronutrients and phytochemicals

  • packaged within plants that can be powerful promoters of bone health,

  • so healthcare professionals should be encouraged

  • to advise the increased consumption of plant-based foods,

  • particularly in mid-life,

  • irrespective of the clients underlying dietary pattern,

  • meaning no matter how much meat or junk they eat,

  • adding more healthy plant foods may help prevent

  • the development of osteoporosis.

  • On the other hand, a more animal-source nutrient pattern

  • has been associated with a higher risk of fractures,

  • suggesting that a more animal-based diet is related to bone fragility.

  • So one would expect less osteoporosis in those eating plant-based diets,

  • but you don't know until you put it to the test.

  • "The Incidence of osteoporosis in vegetarians and omnivores ,"

  • the first study published nearly 50 years ago,

  • and the density of the bones that were measured was

  • significantly greater in the vegetarians than the omnivores.

  • In fact, the average bone densities of the vegetarians in their '70s

  • was greater than the densities of the meat eaters in their '50s.

  • Bottom line, these results suggest there's less likelihood of vegetarians

  • developing osteoporosis in old age.

  • Turns out, though, that the researchers screwed up.

  • DEXA scanning, which is what we use now,

  • didn't come online until the 1980s.

  • So the researchers were just using regular x-rays

  • and they confused the readings, such that darker bones on the x-ray

  • got a higher score, but that actually means less bone,

  • so their conclusion should have been the opposite

  • of what they claimed.

  • So vegetarians had worse bone mineral density.

  • Fast-forward about 40 years, by which time nine studies

  • had been done on thousands of individuals, and all in all,

  • the results suggest that vegetarian diets, particularly vegan diets,

  • are associated with lower bone mineral density, but

  • the magnitude of the association is clinically insignificant, meaning

  • the difference was so small as to not really matter out in the real world,

  • reinforcing the fact that vegetarian diets

  • have no clinically detrimental effect on bone health.

  • And it is important to note that the findings of lower

  • bone mineral density didn't fully control for key confounding factors,

  • such as for differences in body weight.

  • We know that people who are obese have stronger bones. Why?

  • Because they're weight lifting 50 pounds all day, every day, and maybe 100 pounds.

  • If you walked around with a 100-pound backpack every day,

  • your bones would grow stronger, too.

  • That's how you build strong bones: weight-bearing exercise.

  • So people who weigh more have denser bones.

  • And vegetarians, and especially vegans, have such low rates of obesity

  • that no wonder, on average they would have lower bone density.

  • The researchers didn't take weight into account,

  • but if the difference they found isn't even clinically significant, who cares?

  • As of 2009, the answer to the question,

  • "Is vegetarianism a serious risk factor for osteoporotic fracture?"

  • the answer was no. Vegetarianism is not a serious risk factor.

  • By 2018, the latest meta-analysis on veganism, vegetarianism,

  • and bone mineral density, was up to 20 studies,

  • involving tens of thousands of participants, and, again,

  • lower bone mineral density was found in studies

  • of vegetarians and vegans compared to meat eaters.

  • The researchers conclude that vegetarian and vegan diets

  • need to be appropriately planned to preserve their bones.

  • But wait, did they account for the obesity thing?

  • No, they did not.

  • They just used what are called crude risk ratios,

  • meaning no adjustments for confounding factors like weight,

  • so they didn't control for things like age, smoking, obesity,

  • exercise, and so their results are really uninterpretable.

  • But no one had gone through the trouble of going back through

  • all those studies and making the proper adjustments until now.

  • The title gives it away: "Differences in Bone Mineral Density between

  • Vegetarians and Nonvegetarians Become Marginal when

  • Accounting for Differences in Body Size Factors."

  • Yes, bone mineral density values were significantly lower

  • among vegetarians than among nonvegetarians,

  • just like is the case with nearly every study

  • on bone mineral density and excess body weight.

  • But forget clinical significance; these differences

  • even lost statistical significance upon adjustment for body size

  • factors, suggesting that lower bone mass among vegetarians

  • is in larger parts explained by their lower BMI and waist circumference.

  • Thus, it's not so much the composition of the diets of vegetarians and vegans

  • as much as it is the fact that they become so much slimmer.

  • Now a small but statistically significant difference remained

  • for total lower spine density, a difference of 0.03.

  • This was dismissed as having little clinical relevance, but is that true?

  • If you look at the reproducibility of bone mineral density

  • measurements in daily medical practice, you can see how

  • if you do repeat tests back-to-back, there's some scatter

  • in the measurements, and so a significant difference

  • really has to be more than the inherent variation.

  • And indeed, expressed as the smallest detected difference,

  • you really need a bone mineral density disparity

  • of at least 0.05 at the spine

  • before it can be considered a significant change,

  • and so indeed, there does appear to be little clinical relevance.

  • However, even if vegetarians and vegans basically

  • have the same bone density at the same weight,

  • everyone who is skinny is at risk.

  • Low BMI is a risk factor for fractures, so all persons in

  • a low body weight category consuming any kind of diet

  • should be monitored for osteoporosis.

  • In our next story, we look at the decades-old dogma

  • that the lack of animal protein leads to bone loss.

  • For most of the last century, a prevailing theory

  • within the field of nutrition was that

  • by eating acid-forming foods such as meat

  • we were, in essence, at risk of peeing our bones

  • down the toilet.

  • And no wonder!

  • Experiments dating back to 1920

  • showed over and over that if you add meat to the diet

  • you get a big spike in the amount of calcium

  • being lost in the urine.

  • And so this made total sense.

  • We had known since 1912

  • that meat was acid- forming within the body,

  • and how do you buffer acid?

  • What are in antacid pills, anti-acid pills like Tums?

  • Calcium.

  • Meat and eggs have a lot of sulfur-containing amino acids,

  • 2-5 times more than grains and beans

  • that are metabolized into sulfuric acid,

  • which the body buffers with calcium.

  • That's why the antacids like Tums are made out of calcium,

  • calcium can buffer acid.

  • And where is calcium stored in the body?

  • The skeleton.

  • So the thinking was that every time we ate a steak

  • our body would pull calcium from our bones,

  • bit by bit, and over time this could lead to osteoporosis.

  • Based on 26 such studies every 40 grams of protein

  • we add to your daily diet we pee out an extra 50mg of calcium.

  • And look we only have about 2 pounds of calcium in our skeleton,

  • so the loss of 50 a day would mean

  • losing close to 2% of bone calcium every year.

  • And so by the end of the 20th century,

  • there was little doubt that acid-forming diets

  • would dissolve our bones away.

  • But if you actually look at all the studies

  • done on protein intake and bone health,

  • that's not what you find.

  • So, where's the flaw in our logic?

  • Meat leads to acid, which leads to calcium loss,

  • which leads to bone loss, right?

  • Well, it's uncontroversial that protein results in greater calcium excretion,

  • but we've just been assuming it's coming from the bone