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  • I get offended seeing pints of milk.

  • I physically can't look at cheese.

  • It sends, like, shivers down my spine.

  • I've been brought up around farming since the day I was born.

  • I'm passionate in producing food to feed the country and the rest of the world.

  • KLAXON

  • I've been brought up around farming my entire life,

  • and as a result, I'm proud to be part of feeding the country and feeding the world.

  • British farmers have some of the highest standards of animal welfare,

  • traceability and environmental protection than any other farmers anywhere in the world.

  • At the same time, we don't tell people what they should eat.

  • We grow what they want to eat.

  • People should have access to accurate information

  • and be able to make their own decisions in terms of what

  • they want to eat and how they should live their lives.

  • Dude, I understand your perspective.

  • What do you think about the ability to essentially clone flesh,

  • and replicate the taste of an animal?

  • I guess, would you consider...?

  • Do you want to sit down? Can we sit and talk face-to-face?

  • Would you like that?

  • I feel great about losing the challenge.

  • I'd like to continue the conversation, though -

  • if you're OK with that? Yeah, I'm completely happy to do that.

  • Cool. Let me get another chair. Do you want to sit down? I'm Josh.

  • Josh. Nice to meet you. No, sit on that one.

  • When I shook his hand,

  • I could feel the suffering that those animals have had to endure.

  • You know, the flesh cloning?

  • I think you should lead the UK in developing that technology.

  • If you develop that, then you will need,

  • like, one beautiful cow that is, like, the most sacred

  • cow in the whole world that delivers meat to everyone.

  • Do you know what I mean? Like, that would be amazing,

  • cos YOU know how sentient these creatures are.

  • They just want love. That's all they want. They just want love.

  • I completely respect somebody whose decision... Cool.

  • ..to live a vegan lifestyle.

  • To me, it's just the same as voting for who you want to vote for,

  • worshipping what god you want to worship... Sure.

  • ..marrying who you want to marry. For sure.

  • For me, choosing what diet you have and what lifestyle you live falls into that.

  • I'm all up for pursuing other options in terms of how we are going to feed the world. Cool.

  • But the animals that I've been around my entire life have

  • been farmed in a way that is fair.

  • I don't see why the way we produce food,

  • whether that be beef or dairy or lamb... Yeah.

  • ..needs to be replaced by that technology.

  • You do see that as the inevitable future, right?

  • Personally, no. I could see it could be. You think it could be...

  • I can't read...I don't have a crystal ball, so I can't see what the future looks like.

  • I have a crystal ball. I know what the future looks like.

  • If you say that's the future, I'll have to take your word for it.

  • Cool. Obviously, Nik has a crystal ball that he can

  • use to see into the future.

  • I don't have that talent.

  • I'm excited if you can read the future, cos I certainly can't.

  • OK.

  • Yeah, you can't. You eat meat. It's a vegan thing. It's a superb thing.

  • Sad. He's lost.

  • I certainly won't change my opinion.

  • I'm a big believer that British agriculture is sustainable

  • and fit for the future

  • and we are constantly striving to improve it day-to-day,

  • and I also can't see Nik changing his opinion any time soon.

  • I really don't mind that I lost the challenge.

  • It's totally OK!

I get offended seeing pints of milk.

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