Name: Melinda Gates: vaccines, inequality and caregiving I FT
Uploaded: 2021-05-23T16:07:59.000Z
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Melinda Gates, thanks so much for being with us.

Let's start with the pandemic, and with vaccine nationalism.

Something that I know is of great concern to you,

You modelled vaccine scenarios to see the impact, whether...

And you found a very clearly that the deaths

were doubled in the case of rich countries hoarding vaccines.

That is what is happening today, isn't it?

You're seeing wealthy nations vaccinate their populations

who know that they need to be re-elected or elected,

that there is a lot of political pressure on them

...and how do you strike that balance between convincing them

that actually what's happening in India today, for example,

Well I think if you're a leader of a country,

absolutely you want to vaccinate your population.

And so, while I say it's disappointing to see

that the wealthy countries are vaccinating,

But I think you should vaccinate up to a point,

and you hit a certain age population where you say,

that we then put both money and extra supply

It needs $2bn more funding, and it needs vaccine supply.

But we know - thank goodness it got set up during the pandemic

It's distributed vaccine to 40 countries already,

So I think you don't need to vaccinate all the way down,

say, to your teen population before you - you can certainly

make a donation now of money - but before you send out

So once you've vaccinated everyone who's over 30

are made to developing and poorer countries?

You give money now, so we fully fund COVAX.

We will get out of this problem as the manufacturing comes

But look, to have low-income countries who can't even

I mean that's the system people are going into

You have to get the entire health system populated

This, to a certain extent, is what a lot of leaders

have talked about, but are not actually doing.

So there have been proposals, for example, that 5 per cent

can be done in order to convince governments to do this now?

We're seeing it on the news, every morning when

you turn on the news, we're seeing what's

Governments are starting to realise, oh my gosh,

if we don't get the global population vaccinated

and they're going to spring up in different places

in the world, and bounce back into our own countries.

So that is an argument that absolutely leaders

And they want to get, not just their own economy reopen,

they want to get the world's economy reopen.

you want to get manufacturing going again,

it benefits all of us to have the global economy reopened.

So those are arguments that are being made,

at their supply of vaccine and deciding, OK, how much of it

So I think you're going to start to see some movement there.

Some activists argue that they really should be overturned,

and this is a very special case, the global pandemic.

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