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  • Today on "Hello World,"

  • we are sticking close to home for once.

  • We're gonna travel virtually down the road

  • to Stanford University,

  • where there's a research lab

  • that is doing some really cutting-edge work

  • around AI technology, video analysis,

  • and video manipulation.

  • A group of researchers there have done some projects

  • in things ranging from creating fake tennis players,

  • versions of Roger Federer and Serena Williams

  • that can play matches against each other.

  • And they're also doing this crazy analysis of cable news,

  • where they've had an AI watch 10,000-something hours

  • of cable TV news and find out which topics dominate,

  • who's getting the most airtime between people

  • like Trump and Biden.

  • And so, it's just, it's these fascinating applications

  • of the cutting edge of where AI and video meet.

  • Some of it, I think, will blow your mind a bit

  • and raise some difficult questions.

  • And so, with that, let's head off to Stanford University.

  • Most generally I'm a professor of computer graphics.

  • And so, my students and myself and colleagues

  • like creating new interactive experiences

  • that were never possible before.

  • That's sort of our mission, what makes us tick.

  • I was on Twitter one day and I'm just scrolling through.

  • And I'm a tennis nerd,

  • and so, I caught a video of this thing

  • of Roger Federer playing against himself at Wimbledon.

  • And that obviously caught my attention

  • since that's kind of impossible.

  • And, you know, I started digging into it,

  • and I saw this was based on some video analysis

  • and AI technology that you guys have been working on.

  • A lot of us in the world right now

  • are really interested in different forms

  • of generating, analyzing, or manipulating video.

  • And so, I actually think it was an idea from my colleague.

  • He said, "Hey, you should take

  • "all this broadcast sports video that's around

  • "and make a really cool video game out of it."

  • Yeah, and just to break it down,

  • and you tell me if I'm understanding this right,

  • but you feed your systems all this video,

  • just the raw video of these matches being played.

  • Each player that you're focused on,

  • you're learning their, the style of play,

  • what shots they're likely to hit.

  • We took two ideas that are out there in the real world.

  • We took sports analytics,

  • which all the leagues are doing all the time,

  • and that they're analyzing the video.

  • And then we took a very basic idea

  • from computer graphics circa 2000,

  • which is if you want a character to do something,

  • record them doing many things,

  • and then mix and match

  • a bunch of little video clips together.

  • And we did use a number of modern deep-learning techniques

  • to really fill in some of the gaps.

  • I mean, obviously, deep fakes are a big concern

  • with modern AI.

  • Are there, you know, legit, I don't know,

  • concerns that could arise from something like this?

  • I think there are absolutely always legitimate concerns,

  • but a lot of what we did was based on technology

  • that existed 15, 20 years ago.

  • And I agree that there's an inflection point.

  • When it starts looking real, very realistic,

  • there's great power that comes with that.

  • But it is not a new thing.

  • For a while, you're like,

  • oh wow, this is Roger Federer hitting the ball.

  • And then every now and then, you're like,

  • Oh, it moves-

  • Absolutely, yeah.

  • A little weird.

  • I don't know if glitchy is the right word.

  • But then at the same time, I was like, you know,

  • I play tennis video games,

  • and there was a realism to it that you don't see

  • in a lot of those games.

  • You could see that this is, maybe,

  • the future of where this stuff is going,

  • is like I can actually play a simulated Roger Federer.

  • I mean, absolutely.

  • The next step going forward is,

  • is working with folks that can give us access

  • to a lot more video,

  • 'cause we did what we showed with only

  • two or three matches from both of these players.

  • If you gave us a much bigger database

  • and the next set of techniques,

  • I believe we can generate

  • a very compelling visual experience.

  • You guys do a variety of different projects over there,

  • and you also have this project where you've done

  • this really broad analysis of cable news,

  • looking at both what is said by analyzing transcripts

  • and also who is saying it.

  • Who's on TV the most between men and women,

  • different pundits, you know,

  • different people in the news

  • like Trump and Biden, obviously.

  • We're taking an extremely large corpus of video.

  • We have almost 24/7 broadcasts

  • of CNN, MSNBC, and Fox News since 2010.

  • So, we have transcripts and we have video for all of those.

  • it's provided by the Internet Archive.

  • And what we've done is we've basically turned it

  • into an enormous library.

  • We've indexed it and we allow the public

  • to search those transcripts,

  • as well as who is on screen.

  • And so, we're really excited to see how,

  • if we give the public, whether that be media watchdogs,

  • whether that be journalists,

  • whether it be scholars or hobbyists,

  • the ability to essentially search this library

  • of who and what was on the news,

  • we think that some very positive things might happen

  • in terms of understanding what gets presented,

  • who gets the opportunity to present it,

  • as well as what biases or

  • dispositions the various channels have.

  • And so, I noticed,

  • I mean, obviously,

  • historically there are watchdog groups

  • that look at this sort of thing.

  • But it's all, it's a manual process, right?

  • Some poor human has to watch endless hours

  • of horrendous cable news.

  • That's correct.

  • And the big difference here is that we have taken

  • some very manual, painstaking labor

  • by folks that wanna understand what's being communicated

  • and how to computer-automate a lot of that labor.

  • We are just a few blocks-

  • One of the realizations that came out

  • was an imbalance between male and female hosts.

  • There's a lot more male hosts.

  • One thing I was surprised about was,

  • I mean, Fox News has almost a one-to-one ratio

  • between male hosts and female hosts.

  • They had by far the best balance on the host side,

  • but on the pundit side,

  • they were, I think, the worst.

  • That's correct.

  • And one of the real,

  • the things that we're interested in doing

  • is that we all have a narrative

  • about what's going on in the world.

  • And this is about putting data behind that narrative.

  • And the conclusions, sometimes, are quite interesting.

  • I wanted to talk just a little bit

  • about the nuts and bolts of how you guys put this together,

  • 'cause one thing I did not realize,

  • Amazon has this facial recognition tool

  • that you can buy as a service.

  • What we are surfacing to the public are the results

  • of Amazon's celebrity recognition service API.

  • I'm excited to introduce for you a new service

  • called Amazon Rekognition Video,

  • which does real time and batch video analytics.

  • We'll detect objects and faces and scenes.

  • It is a form of doing facial recognition at scale,

  • which has been talked about and continues to be talked about

  • at length in the media right now,

  • because it is an extremely controversial technology.

  • Amazon can scan your face without your consent

  • and sell it to the government

  • all without our knowledge, correct?

  • Yes.

  • Now, on one hand, that's what we are doing.

  • We are running Amazon's face recognition software

  • on every frame of the news for the last decade.

  • But we think that this is an application of face recognition

  • where the potential for harm is low.

  • It is run only on individuals

  • that have appeared on cable TV news.

  • But, well, we thought that the ability

  • to audit what is going on on the news

  • was a positive use case,

  • but we had to make a judgment.

  • And the judgment we made was that the benefits

  • outweighed the potential harms.

  • One thing I think is worth bringing up,

  • which you guys address,

  • the facial recognition.

  • It does way better on kinda like white guys

  • than it does on females,

  • and it also has some struggles on gender,

  • especially for people who might identify in different ways.

  • Is that right?

  • I mean, it's basically strongest

  • on white male pundit than anything else.

  • Most of these services have shown scientifically

  • that there is bias in these systems,

  • and so any conclusions that you take

  • from automated machine learning analysis

  • need to be inspected very carefully

  • to determine if that bias is playing a factor

  • in the results.

  • Our goal is to create interesting new capabilities,

  • tools for analysts or creators,

  • tools for artists, if it's in entertainment.

  • And so, like any tool builder,

  • you wanna use the best tool for the job.

  • And when AI provides new opportunities

  • and is the right tool for the job,

  • by all means, we should use it.

  • But we also look at it with some skepticism

  • in that if we go back to the tennis project

  • that we talked about earlier,

  • shoot, most of the reason why that looks so good

  • is because we took human knowledge of how tennis works

  • and encoded it in the computer,

  • and we used the AI to fill in the gaps.

  • But the main knowledge is still human,

  • and I actually think when people stop doing that

  • and rely completely on data

  • or completely on AI to build systems,

  • that's where stuff starts going wrong.

  • You know, for better or for worse,

  • computing has gotten very, very powerful in the last decade.

  • And there are amazing things that we can do with that power,

  • and there are significant concerns and significant issues

  • that that power is bringing to bear on all society.

  • There's a lot of responsibility to think very thoughtfully

  • about what we are doing and why.

Today on "Hello World,"

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