What do you think it is about you that will make you keep falling till you learn a trick and keep committing to something?

Um, it's because I I know it's possible.

And I'm willing, Thio, I'm willing to struggle through the learning process and even change what I'm my approach to doing something just to figure out how to do it.

Um and so I guess I just never had never wanted to back down from a challenging A.

Some point, you just tune everything out and you say, This is it.

You gotta do it.

You know, that's that's the best gauge of should you be doing it or not?

It's more about for me.

It's about approaching things with confidence.

If if I'm gonna do something, I've already convinced myself that I can do it, that it is possible if you're convinced that you're going to fail or fall or get hurt, that will come to fruition, because that's what you're visualizing.

I never you know, I was willing to get hurt along the way, but I didn't visualized myself in my home now on, and I think that's what that's what stops a lot of people.

And that's really what separates a lot of people from being world champions air from being as good as they can because they stop us a point saying, Oh, no, I I am not capable of this or I'll probably get hurt doing this.

And if you approach anything with that hesitation, you're gonna fail.

I always approached it like this is going to work.

I'm going to figure this out even if it takes me hundreds of attempts.

Yeah, you know, the idea of falling getting back up again That didn't really bother me at all.

I was smooth, kind of approach.

I have to my kids, you know, if they love doing it, I don't care if it's not considered the cool thing or, you know, if it doesn't mean that they're going to get a varsity letter, I want them to be happy, and I want them to enjoy themselves.

Don't succumb to peer pressure or adult pressure.

Um, find your voice, find, find what you really enjoy and even if it's something different and it's something that's not considered cool, if you love doing it, you will thrive in it, and eventually you'll be happy because you continue to do it if I go at it.

And I think I don't know if this is gonna work, that's when I get hurt.

That's really get hurt, you know?

I mean, you can't just throw caution to the wind and go out.

Let's see what happens.

Someone poses a challenge to you and you have to figure out how to get over it.

And so in, in doing that in my skating and also in the business, it was like, Well, these air, what's this is what's coming at us.

We've got to figure out how to navigate this and how to succeed, and a lot of people just give up on and especially in skating.

I mean, that's the first sign of someone that's going to be successful.

It's no matter how far, no matter how successful they get, especially in competition.

They continue to challenge themselves because they want to improve.

Those are the guys that make it way further than anyone else.