Since you said that there's so much good animation, it's really stunning.

You Are you working on your own project now?

What?

Can you talk about it?

Yeah, but you No, I hope never.

I don't want to ever be.

I don't want anyone to quote, tweet my accomplishments.

That's my biggest fear.

Always attached.

I'm just saying, no, that's my biggest fear is like something to be announced and then above it is just like in 2016.

He called me fat and it's like, Well, just don't announce it.

Just put the show out.

Don't even say I'm not even anywhere near Yeah, well, I wonder how much the animation has has influenced you as a performer.

What I've noticed is, if you guys, this is like a very real plug and not like a show busy thing you got.

You and Zach Fox have a doomsday mixtape, which is a podcast, but it just it divulge, is into some of the best riffs that air.

It could be sketches.

It could be a key and peele type show in that I'm howling, laughing.

I'm like falling asleep trying to do a podcast, and it's upsetting.

So I wonder how much animation has changed that in your mind when you start thinking of things is not because I think before you're doing like concept jokes where you're like Here's this idea.

I know it's unpopular.

Let me argue for the lawyer thing.

And I think now at least, what you guys were doing on that podcast seems like you're essentially talking out sketches, especially with you and Alex.

You guys have, like, these 13 minutes idea that you just perfectly breakdown and it's funny, every beat of the way.

And that just wasn't the way that I was raised to be funny, you know?

I mean, like, it was just like I was.

I was raised in such short burst.

Who's the loudest?

Who can say the most abrasive sentence at the back of this bus?

Who can get the most amount of attention and his blood Truman as fast as possible.

And so you can't really break down the whole story about how you broke your leg on a Ferris wheel in middle school, and that's why you couldn't go on a date with something like that.

That was the greatest adversity story.

It was just like that.

A feels like it's aimed at roasting either one of us.

And I'm like sushi.

Good, sir.

Great example.

But it's like I would watch it like these guys are fucking brilliant.

It was my arm and a total world.

It was just, And Moses is right.

Most has known me since I started comedy and, like he's like It's just been, um or ever like, have evolved from the same way I've been telling jokes since me and him were like in our early twenties.

Jack and I started open my you essentially said the most outrageous thing and then build a case around why that was true until people were on this side a level of confidence.

You know why we're at these terrible open mics was just something I learned from, and I was like, Oh, I didn't know you could do that on the other side with Maria used to Internet UCB and I would just watch your stuff over and over again.

I didn't know you could leave the audience in that I feel like you go so deep into character that a lot of the time you're like checking with the audience.

Can I continue?

Here's this job.

Do you like it?

It feels like you're so laser focused on these characters that you just leave and you do the character.

It was always something that you had.

Or did you learn that from somewhere?

Because that is something that I've directly stolen from you.

O e think I just I'm not.

I'm an introvert.

So I'm not.

I'm not super comfortable.

It's not my go to to be with people.

Usually you're not like, Look at this guy's shirt look atyou flannel again, which I love as an audience member like I love Oh my God!

And you saw my sweater and my necklace like, I love that, but I I am so awkward and sort of a cold fish type person like I've tried to be more gregarious on stage, and it's just everyone's like, you know, So, um, e just be like, here's the story of you know, Maple leaves.

Uh, didn't feel right.

Well, I think it's the way I grew up.

My dad would give me three minutes to talk at the dinner table, or I think it was five minutes.

He would set a timer.

Um, e s crazy.

That's so crazy.

Because I was quiet and my sister and my mom just talk talk to, like, there.

They're big interrupters And they could just talk and talk and talk and talking forever.

And I just I will be silent and I've actually done E was once on a show in Australia, whereas on the show was a chat show for a full hour.

It was supposed to be where you're supposed to jump in and e Yes, I said nothing for 60 minutes.

E way!

Sorry.

I'm sorry.

Can we go back to the O to the thing you just said?

So is it so I get is it?

This is your chance to talk as if you didn't get to speak.

And this is your chance to get.

Or is it?

You need to talk, bro.

We need you to actually converse with his family.

Um, no, it was thistles.

Your chance like this?

Your chance.

Everyone's got to be quiet because otherwise I won't.

I won't get Thio get to talk so I would try toe, say something then it then I would just feel kind of like and I still feel the same way with my family like my sister's hilarious.

And she's just louder than me.

Thanks.

And so, yeah, that's part of the longing to be amplified and lit in front of thousands is, uh, do to her.

The timer goes off and it's, ah, hard like before your punch line of your story.

It's just no more.

It's Ah, hard out, which is what I'm calling my disappearance at the age of 75.

Oh, do you ever feel guilty that you're selling something out like I feel guilty sometimes about, like exploiting a poverty narrative and and growing up homeless?

Sometimes.

Do you ever feel like you're leaning too much in that for industry sakes of like generals, like we're talking about reviews like I know you went to a white nationalist meeting.

How much of that was for this show?

And how much was that for your genuine curiosity is, it's for everything I do is for my GEN.

The genuine curiosity of of my life or like my investing in my sincere side, means going toe like white nationalist meetings, and I've gone thio churches and mosques and places that Jews shouldn't or places that Jews usually aren't.

And I've gone toe different countries.

When I was in South Korea for the my brother, my brother was in South Korea competing in the Olympics, which is a whole other thing.

Hey, doesn't want you to talk about him.

Hey, I just wanted to keep a low profile.

Yeah, well, he doesn't wanna be mocked, but I don't feel guilty talking about what it means to be Jewish.

I would feel guilty if I talked about Jews, but it's certainly not for like, industries say, because, like you say, it's not super unique to be a Jew but like that is a big part of my identity.

So when I talk about that and I have things that sometimes people go, Oh, man, you're shows air so, like personal.

But like, I have different things that I think our personal like.

I don't talk about my romantic relationships or my interpersonal relations on stage, because that, to me, is like my private life.

I always feel guilty now you know that I do stuff about my family and it's like, Well, yeah, I'm trying to just talk about myself now because I Yeah.

Realize how that can be hurtful to people.

Um, but I started talking about I'm in a jillion 12 step groups Or 333 And, you know, one of the things that I I sincerely respect about those things are that they are safe spaces, you know, too.

But then there so funny that I feel like I have to tell jokes about them because it like, I have to I have to say one of the rules of 12 step cults is that you're not supposed to say that you're in a specific group.

Um, like you're not supposed to say I'm a fair description, though.

That's why I've been turned off anything that's like that, uh, I e their cults because they have these weird rules where you go.

I mean, the one thing that I like that makes it less occult in 12 step is that it's free number two.

Free number three.

They can't kick you out.

Like, even if I go to all the meetings and, you know, bring a bottle of Jack Daniels, and I'm eating an ice cream cake with a stolen porn DVD.

All anyone will say is you newcomer keep coming back, but you're scooping the ice cream cake with the poor and TV with the pond DVD.

It's not back.

Next Watched you come back the next week with slightly lower proof alcohol, and they're like, OK, so you're just you're getting No, no, I'm sorry to have you here.

Have you ever tried to push it, though?

I'm like, what?

What could I dio?

Oh, yeah.

I mean, I do.

I started talking about in my zoom shows, like about which ones I'm in, which feels like it feels like I shouldn't because it is this one private thing in my life that I've felt, um yeah, like somehow I shouldn't break the rule or it's disrespectful or something yet and sincerity and all that stuff.

So anyways, it z odd to be ableto have something that is private and important to you.

But also, how can you share the ridiculousness of it?

Aziz.

Well, so that's what I'm having trouble with right now is family members, even though it's my experience that this happened, have asked me to not do certain things or they tried to correct the record even though this is my experience or I'm bending it because it's funny.

How do you handle that responsibility?

As far as like, I'm about to put out a special it never Well, Stephen, that happens.

But I generally wonder, because it's like stuff that means something to me.

I feel better that I can process this pain and make people laugh.

But the people that I'm talking about are like, you know, I see it different actually happened this way.

I told my sister has written three books.

E said, Awesome.

You you tell your style people e about childhood, about memoirs, about stuff.

And and I didn't, you know, edit her experience about Yeah, like she had a one hilarious point of view where she she said The reason she beat me up so much as a kid was because she was She knew I was too sensitive, and she was trying to make me tougher so I'd be ready for the real world.

I'm like, really e like hard parts.

You up to a timer?

E think you were just 12 and you were having a terrible time, and you just thought I think I'll punch this kid in the gut.

They should have had a reason none of my bullies ever submitted in writing why they were bullying a a za performer.

How much responsibility do you have to be like?

Well, no, I know it's entertaining for the crowd, and it's It's my experience, which is this versus protecting someone that didn't sign up to be in the entertainment industry or to have their dirty laundry aired out.

The first time I was ever on TV, I talked about how fire my mom's he must have been.

So I've only spoken pretty positively about the people.

Like the first joke ever made was like a story.

Yeah, that one, too.

It was just like my mom's pussy is so far the only reason why I'm doping.

You could tell whose people who you could tell who has terrible mom pussy by their behavior and like if you meet someone tag, tag, punch, punch.

If they act like this, you know their mama pussy is dry and then you know I was 21 at the time, and then Comedy Central like, yeah, we could just put that on TV on.

My mother is a principal of a high school of the time and they all saw the joke.

And she is now a legend.

Your principal night.

Just a bunch of 15 60 year old boys trying to mess with some pussy that's above their pay grade.

My mom got a great attitude towards that.

You know stuff, too.

Like she e think she did just pass away.

And my dad was decluttering a few after hours after she died.

Wow.

And his dad went to process things as far way got to clean up.

We just need to, like, put things somewhere.

Well, we're not gonna need any of this anymore.

Let's make a trip to Goodwill.

Um, he, uh gotta He handed my sister and I a shoebox, and he said very solemnly in it were Ah ah, large high quality purple plastic dildo vibrator.

And then a small butterfly style vibrator.

And he said she would have want to do girls to have these.

Oh, it's true.

It's true.

She would.

I I said, Yeah, I'll take him.

But my sister said no, You will not.

And she saved them and then throw them in the trash.

She saved them to pass on to her Children.

I think you're not gonna bet so sweet.

It's like a family watch.

Did you wanna hang on to it for the sentimental value?

Or just like for me, in my head of a growing portion, like the money like those air those things don't pricey.

That's what I thought I thought that's like 200 bucks down the drain was shipping vintage vibrators.

Well, they were brand new.

I mean, those were some good looking models I like that passed down like a sword.

Yeah, I really hope there's like someone that worked at Blumhouse listening because I think that I got haunted by my mom's vibrator.

The Come on, bro.

This is like right there.