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  • -Gugu, hello, nice to meet you.

  • Thank you for coming on the show.

  • -Thank you.

  • -I know we're meeting through Zoom.

  • It's odd, but I bet you a lot of people are meeting through Zoom.

  • -I know. It's crazy.

  • This is it. This is how we live now.

  • -Yeah. This is it.

  • I was going to ask if you're in London,

  • but you're in Atlanta right now, right?

  • -I'm in Atlanta right now, yeah. I'm here.

  • I just restarted filming here on "Loki",

  • the show that I'm working on.

  • -Oh, "Loki," for Disney+. -Yeah.

  • -Disney Plu! -Disney Plu! Yeah!

  • -No one calls it that, but we can start that today.

  • -There we go. It's going to be a thing.

  • It's going to be a thing. -Were you a big Marvel fan

  • before joining the show? -You know,

  • I wasn't a massive fan.

  • I have to confess, I wasn't a huge fan,

  • but I did sort of binge all the shows before

  • starting this because, obviously,

  • it's inspired by a character from "Thor"

  • and there's all of the "Thor" movies,

  • so I got Disney Plu, and I sort of binged

  • on everything and caught up. So now I know what I'm doing.

  • -Many people have taken up hobbies while in quarantine,

  • and you posted these portraits that you painted on Instagram,

  • and they're gorgeous. You went from painting people

  • you know to painting portraits of the George Floyd

  • and Breonna Taylor and John Lewis.

  • -Yeah. -What inspired you

  • to paint their portraits? -Well, you know, I think,

  • like everyone, I just found the shifts that were happening

  • culturally, you know, post the murder of George Floyd

  • and all of the protests that ensued, and I was painting

  • every day anyway, and it was just such a shock,

  • and just such an emotional time.

  • Somehow, just being able to channel those emotions into art

  • just was sort of a way for me to process it,

  • I think, at the time. And then, you know,

  • just to be able to paint Breonna Taylor,

  • actually took that painting on a protest with me in L.A.

  • as a banner, and I wrote "Say Her Name" on the back,

  • and was able to actually auction those two paintings for charity,

  • for some social justice organizations as well.

  • -See? -Yeah,

  • it's took on a greater purpose.

  • -I read that when you're working as an actor

  • that you use music to help you prepare for roles.

  • Are you musical?

  • -You know, I like to sing,

  • and I did grow up playing the saxophone,

  • which was really a treat for me. I haven't played it for a while.

  • -Oh, I love the saxophone. That's so tricky.

  • What made you get into saxophone?

  • -Oh, my God. Well, I think, probably, Lisa Simpson

  • had a little bit to do with it. -For real?

  • -Yeah, for real. Just watching that show

  • And just seeing a young girl just playing the saxophone,

  • I was like, that is so cool. I want to do that.

  • It's possible. And I just was so inspired by her.

  • -Wow! -Yeah.

  • And I grew up listening to all the jazz divas,

  • the greats like Ella Fitzgerald and Billie Holiday,

  • and I never really saw any female saxophonists.

  • There's Coltrane and all these other famous jazz people,

  • but you know, Lisa Simpson for me was the one

  • that made me think, "Girls can do it, too," you know?

  • -That makes -- that's so cool.

  • I want to talk about your new movie "Misbehaviour."

  • This is based on a true story of what happened

  • at the Miss World competition in 1970.

  • A lot of people might not know the story.

  • I wasn't that familiar with the story.

  • Can you tell everyone what it's about?

  • -Yeah, I didn't know anything about it

  • until I read the script, and it's kind of

  • an amazing story because, you know, really, in 1970,

  • it was around the period that the women's liberation movement

  • were forming, and the ceremony itself

  • was the most watched TV show in the world.

  • This particular year in 1970,

  • the women's liberation movement stormed the ceremony

  • in the middle for the feminist cause and they threw

  • flower bombs on Bob Hope, completely disrupted

  • the whole ceremony, but it was also the year

  • that the first woman of color, Miss Grenada, who I play,

  • won the competition.

  • So it's kind of this amazing intersection of events

  • between sort of, you know, the birth of feminism

  • in the '70s on one hand,

  • and then this huge step forward in terms

  • of representation for women of color

  • and perceptions of beauty on the other.

  • So, yeah, it was an amazing year,

  • and, you know, it's obviously the '70s fashions and the music

  • and the era is just really, really fun

  • to look back on as well. -I want to show a clip.

  • Here is Gugu Mbatha-Raw in "Misbehaviour." Take a look.

  • -There will be little girls watching tonight

  • who will see themselves differently because I won,

  • who might just start to believe

  • that you don't have to be white to have a place in the world.

  • -I'm glad.

  • I -- I really hope that the world opens up

  • for them and for you,

  • but making us compete with each other over the way we look,

  • doesn't make the world narrower for all of us in the end?

  • -[ Sighs ]

  • What's your name?

  • -Sally.

  • -Well, Sally,

  • all I can say is

  • I look forward to having your choices in life.

  • -Gugu Mbatha-Raw, everybody.

  • "Misbehaviour" is available on all major digital

  • and cable platforms today.

-Gugu, hello, nice to meet you.

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