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  • >> Stephen: WELCOME BACK, EVERYBODY.

  • MY NEXT GUEST TONIGHT IS A "60 MINUTES" CORRESPONDENT AND

  • AUTHOR WHO HAS BEEN REPORTING ON WASHINGTON SINCE 1995.

  • PLEASE WELCOME BACK TO "A LATE SHOW," JOHN DICKERSON!

  • JOHN, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

  • >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU AGAIN, STEPHEN.

  • >> Stephen: NOW, JOHN, THE LAST TIME YOU AND I WERE TALKING

  • TOGETHER IS BECAUSE YOU HAD RELEASED YOUR NEW BOOK, "THE

  • HARDEST JOB IN THE WORLD," WHICH IS A HISTORY OF THE AMERICAN

  • PRESIDENCY AND HOW IT HAS BECOME NEARLY AN IMPOSSIBLE JOB TO DO.

  • SO I THINK YOU'RE EXACTLY THE PERSON TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS

  • NOW AFFECTS THE JOB AND THE POLITICS OF THE MOMENT.

  • IT'S ONLY OCTOBER 2.

  • HOW MANY MORE OCTOBER SURPRISES CAN WE EXPECT TO GET?

  • >> YOU KNOW, I MEAN, WHEN YOU THINK OF THE TAX STORY, THAT WAS

  • AN OCTOBER SURPRISE THAT HIT IN SEPTEMBER.

  • NOW THIS ONE HITS AT THE BEGINNING OF OCTOBER.

  • IT'S-- IT'S-- YOU KNOW, WE LOOK AT THE POLLS AND THEY HAVE NOT

  • RESPONDED TO SOME OF THESE HUGE SHOCKS TO THE POLITICAL SYSTEM,

  • BUT THIS IS QUITE DIFFERENT.

  • I MEAN, THIS IS THE NUMBER-ONE ISSUE AT THE CENTER OF AMERICAN

  • LIFE, AND THE PRESIDENT IS NOW BOTH RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

  • RESPONSE AND HE IS NOW A PATIENT BEING TREATED FOR IT.

  • >> Stephen: CAN YOU THINK OF ANYTHING HISTORICALLY THAT'S

  • COMPARABLE TO THIS MOMENT?

  • >> YOU KNOW, NOT THIS LATE IN THE-- I MEAN, THERE ARE

  • CERTAINLY PRESIDENTS WHO HAVE BEEN SICK, AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT

  • THAT, BUT NOT SOMETHING THAT'S HAPPENED THIS CLOSE.

  • I MEAN, THERE ARE 32 DAYS TO THE ELECTION.

  • THE VOTING IS GOING ON NOW.

  • THE PRESIDENT HAS RAISED QUESTIONS AND ENCOURAGED HIS

  • SUPPORTERS TO RAISE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE DEMOCRATIC PROCESS.

  • THERE'S A SUPREME COURT NOMINATION GOING ON.

  • THE PANDEMIC IS STILL GOING ON.

  • SO NOTHING THAT HAS BEEN THIS CRITICAL AND HAD THIS MUCH GOING

  • ON ALL AT THE SAME TIME THIS CLOSE TO AN ELECTION.

  • >> Stephen: SO IN SOME WAYS, THE WAY THAT TRUMP BEING TAKEN

  • OFF TO WALTER REED AND-- IS SORT OF PAR FOR THE COURSE THIS YEAR.

  • IT'S ONE OF THE MOST 2020 THINGS THAT COULD HAPPEN RIGHT NOW.

  • >> IT IS.

  • ALTHOUGH, YOU COULD SAY HIM GETTING CORONAVIRUS IS VERY

  • 2020.

  • BUT WHAT STRUCK ME ABOUT SEEING THE PRESIDENT IN THE METHODICAL

  • STEPS OF GETTING HIM TO WALTER REED, WEARING A MASK-- WHICH WE

  • DON'T SEE HIM OFTEN DOING-- THE PROTOCOL AND EVERYTHING THAT IS

  • KICKING INTO PLACE IS-- IT'S IMPERVIOUS TO SPIN.

  • IT'S NOT LIKE EVERYTHING ELSE WE'VE SEEN.

  • IT'S NOT LIKE IT THE THE THE STUFF IN THE CAMPAIGN WHICH IS

  • ALL ABOUT SHAPING THE ENVIRONMENT AND THE NARRATIVE.

  • THIS IS THE METHODICAL STEPS TO GET A PRESIDENT WELL, BECAUSE

  • IT'S THAT SERIOUS.

  • >> Stephen: IT SORT OF GOES BACK TO WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

  • SAYING FOR THE LAST SEVEN MONTHS, WHICH IS COVID DOESN'T

  • CARE WHAT YOUR PARTY IS, AND COVID DOESN'T CARE HOW THE

  • SENATE VOTES.

  • COVID DOESN'T CARE HOW YOU WANT TO POSITION THIS MESSAGE.

  • COVID IS THE MESSAGE.

  • >> EXACTLY.

  • COVID WAIT FOR NO MAN OR WOMAN.

  • IT IS COMING, AND IT IS RELENTLESS.

  • AND WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PRESIDENT'S RESPONSE TO COVID A

  • CONSTANT EFFORT TO PLAY DOWN THE RISKS OF IT, AND HIS-- HIS

  • PUBLIC HEALTH OFFICIALS HAVE BEEN PLEADING FOR PEOPLE TO NOT

  • LOSE SIGHT OF THE FACT THAT COVID DOES NOT STOP.

  • IT CONTINUES.

  • AND SO YOU'VE SEEN THAT TENSION FOR MONTHS GOING ON-- I MEAN, ON

  • ALL DIFFERENT KINDS OF ISSUES, AND YOU'VE SEEN IT ON THIS MASK

  • QUESTION.

  • AND NOW WE'RE NOT THINKING ABOUT IT JUST THEORETICALLY.

  • IT HAS, IN FACT, COME TO PASS, THAT THE PRESIDENT, WHO HAS NOT

  • SHARED THAT VIEW, THAT HIS ADVISERS HAVE, NOW IS HAVING TO

  • GO THROUGH SPECIAL TREATMENT, AND IT'S ALL, YOU KNOW, VERY UP

  • IN THE AIR AS WE TRY TO GET INFORMATION ABOUT WHAT IN FACT

  • HIS CONDITION IS.

  • >> Stephen: SO THERE ARE FIVE WEEKS UNTIL THE ELECTION--

  • THEREABOUTS.

  • AND TWO OF THOSE WEEKS, THE PRESIDENT WILL NOT BE ABLE TO BE

  • OUT ON THE ROAD CAMPAIGNING.

  • WHAT DOES THIS DO TO RACE?

  • WHAT ARE THE CONSEQUENCES FOR BOTH OF THESE CAMPAIGNS?

  • BECAUSE, OBVIOUSLY, THIS HAS TO CHANGE IN SOME WAYS WHAT BIDEN

  • IS DOING.

  • >> WELL, YES.

  • WHAT IT DID AT FIRST IS IT INTERRUPTED WITH A PLEASANT

  • RETURN TO SOME NORMS THAT WE MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT WERE GONE,

  • WHICH IS THAT JOE BIDEN AND A LOT OF OTHER DEMOCRATS WISHED

  • THE PRESIDENT WELL.

  • THEY BASICALLY SPOKE IN HUMAN TERMS ABOUT THE PRESIDENT AND

  • HIS HEALTH AND PRAYED FOR IT.

  • THAT INTERRUPTION, HOWEVER, THAT'S AN ASSERTION OF A NORM

  • AND IN THESE TIMES OF SHREDDING NORMS, IT'S NICE TO SEE THEM

  • REASSERTED, BUT THE CONTINUES.

  • AND WHAT THIS WILL DO IS TWO THINGS.

  • ONE, IT WILL KEEP THE STORY FOCUSED ON THE VERY THING THE

  • PRESIDENT DOESN'T WANT THE STORY FOCUSED ON, WHICH IS THE

  • PANDEMIC AND HIS HANDLING OF IT.

  • 65% OF THE COUNTRY THINK HE'S DONE A POOR JOB.

  • HE'S BEEN WORKING VERY, VERY HARD IN EVERYTHING, INCLUDING

  • THE DEBATE THIS WEEK, TO CHANGE THE TOPIC ON ANYTHING BUT COVID.

  • NOW IT'S AT THE CENTER OF THE CONVERSATION.

  • HE IS KEPT IN THESE CONSTRAINED CONDITIONS WHICH MEANS HE THEN

  • CAN'T GO OUT IN THE COUNTRY AND CHANGE THE CONVERSATION TO

  • SOMETHING ELSE.

  • >> Stephen: FOR MONTHS NOW, THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN HAS BEEN

  • GOING AFTER JOE BIDEN AND SAYING THINGS LIKE HE IS SITTING IN HIS

  • BASEMENT ALONE, HIDING, DIMINISHED.

  • AND MUCH OF TRUMP'S MESSAGE-- NOT JUST NOW BUT THROUGHOUT HIS

  • POLITICAL CAREER AND BEFORE THAT IS THE IDEA OF STRENGTH.

  • THE FACT THAT HE'S PRESENTLY AT WALTER REED, HOW IS THAT GOING

  • TO CHANGE HOW HE CAN CAMPAIGN AGAINST JOE BIDEN EVEN WHEN HE

  • COMES OUT OF IT?

  • >> YOU KNOW, WELL, ALREADY, IT MAKES THOSE PAST STATEMENTS AND

  • THE PRESIDENT'S STATEMENTS DURING THE DEBATE, IN WHICH HE

  • MADE FUN OF JOE BIDEN FOR WEARING A MASK, HIS FAMILY

  • MEMBERS WHO DIDN'T WEAR A MASK AT THE DEBATE, IN HINDSIGHT,

  • THOSE ALL LOOK FOOLHARDY.

  • AND, AGAIN, THIS IS NOT SOME FRIVOLOUS THING.

  • THIS IS THE CENTRAL ISSUE WHERE 207,000 AMERICANS HAVE DIED.

  • AND IT CONNECTS WITH A CENTRAL CRITIQUE OF THE PRESIDENT, WHICH

  • IS THAT IN DOWNPLAYING THE VIRUS, WHETHER IT IS WITH

  • RESPECT TO HIS OWN HEALTH, THE HEALTH OF HIS FAMILY, OR WEARING

  • A MASK, CONNECTS WITH THE POLICY RESPONSE, WHICH HAS BEEN TO

  • DOWNPLAY, WHICH HAS THAT HUGE RESULT OF THE HUNDREDS OF

  • THOUSANDS OF AMERICANS DEAD.

  • SO THE PRESIDENT WILL NO DOUBT, AS A CLEVER POLITICIAN, TRY TO

  • DO SOMETHING TO MAKE SOMETHING POSITIVE OF THIS.

  • BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT IT CONNECTS WITH THE NUMBER ONE

  • THING HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO AVOID AND MAKES IT A PERSONAL

  • PART OF HIS STORY, WHICH IS GOING TO CALL FOR ENDLESS HOURS

  • OF COVERAGE, IT WILL BE VERY, VERY HARD TO SURMOUNT THAT WITH

  • SOME KIND OF ATHLETIC ACT OF POLITICAL GAMESMANSHIP.

  • >> Stephen: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE CONSTITUTIONAL

  • RESPONSIBILITIES HERE.

  • WE SOUGHT PRESIDENT WALK OUT TO MARINE ONE AND WALK OFF OF

  • MARINE ONE.

  • HE SEEMS AS STEADY AS EVER.

  • HE'S WEARING A MASK.

  • THERE'S NO OVERT SENSE THAT HE'S COMPROMISED IN ANY WAY.

  • AT WHAT POINT IS THE 25th AMENDMENT INVOKED?

  • LIKE, WHEN WOULD MIKE PENCE BE ASKED TO TAKE ANY

  • RESPONSIBILITIES?

  • >> YOU KNOW, WELL, THERE ARE A VARIETY OF DINNER TRIGGERS.

  • THE WAY IT'S BEEN TRIGGERED MOST RECENTLY-- THERE ARE WAYS IN

  • WHICH YOU CAN TRIGGER IT WITHOUT THE PRESIDENT'S CONSENT.

  • THE PRESIDENT HAS GIVEN CONSENT TWICE, WHEN GEORGE W. BUSH HAD A

  • COLONOSCOPY AND WENT OTHER.

  • THAT WAS ALSO THE CASE WITH RONALD REAGAN.

  • THAT COULD HAPPEN HERE, BUT ONE THING THAT IS IMPORTANT, WHILE

  • THERE ARE PROTOCOLS AND A RULE MANUAL FOR HANDLING THOSE

  • THINGS, THIS IS A STRESS TEST OF THE WHITE HOUSE OPERATION, OF

  • THE WHOLE TEAM.

  • AND THAT MEANS NOT ONLY DEALING WITH HANDLING THE PRESIDENT'S

  • ILLNESS AND INFORMING THE PUBLIC, BUT THE TO-DO LIST THAT

  • IS THERE THAT HE MAY NOT BE ABLE TO HANDLE IN HIS CONDITION, OR

  • AT LEAST MAY BE HARDER FOR HIM TO HANDLE.

  • YOU HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD TEAM IN PLACE TO DO THAT.

  • YOU CAN'T FIGURE THAT OUT ON THE FLY.

  • AND IT'S WHY SO MANY WHITE HOUSE VETERANS SAY BUILDING A TEAM,

  • HAVING A TEAM THAT WORKS TOGETHER IS TOW IMPORTANT,

  • BECAUSE THIS IS THE KIND OF SURPRISE ALTHOUGH THIS IS AN

  • EXTRAORDINARY ONE-- THAT FACES A PRESIDENT.

  • >> Stephen: I READ ABOUT THE NECESSITY OF BUILDING A GOOD

  • TEAM IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

  • IT'S IN A BOOK CALLED "THE HARDEST JOB IN THE WORLD."

  • YOU SHOULD CHECK IT OUT SOME TIME.

  • IT'S PRETTY DARN GOOD.

  • DO YOU HAVE A COPY?

  • >> YOU KNOW, YES, I DO, RIGHT HERE.

  • AVAILABLE AT BOOKSTORES NEAR YOU.

  • >> Stephen: IT'S AN EXCELLENT GIFT FOR WHATEVER HOLIDAY COMES

  • UP NEXT.

  • NOW, I-- I HAVE TO SAY, WHEN I SAW MARINE ONE TAKE OFF FROM THE

  • WHITE HOUSE LAWN TO TAKE THE PRESIDENT AWAY-- EVEN THOUGH HE

  • DOES HIS CHOPPER TALK FREQUENTLY-- WE NEVER SEE MARINE

  • ONE TAKING OFF IN THAT SHOT.

  • WHEN WE SAW THAT SHOT AND THE CAMERA FOLLOW IT OVER THE

  • POTOMAC TO WALTER REED, WE ASSOCIATE THAT SHOT WITH JANUARY

  • 20 THE DAY THE PRESIDENT LEAVES THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE LAST

  • TIME.

  • WHAT WAS YOUR EMOTIONAL RESPONSE WHEN YOU SAY AIR FORCE-- I MEAN,

  • MARINE ONE TAKING OFF?

  • >> THAT'S RIGHT, THEY DON'T HOLD THE SHOT.

  • THE PRESIDENT IS OFF TO GO DO WHATEVER HE IS GOING TO DO.

  • BUT IN THIS CASE THE JOURNEY ITSELF IS INTERESTING SO THEY

  • HOLD THE SHOT.

  • WHAT STRUCK ME IN THAT MOMENT WE ARE WATCHING IN REAL TIME THE

  • PRESIDENT BE CARED FOR.

  • THERE'S LOTS OF PRESIDENTIAL HISTORY OF PRESIDENTS BASICALLY

  • SNEAKING AWAY AND NOT TELLING THE TRUTH ABOUT HOW SICK THEY

  • ARE.

  • WILSON HAD A STROKE IN OFFICE.

  • THEY HILDT HID THAT FROM THE COUNTRYFOR MONTHS.

  • EISENHOWER HAD A HEART ATTACK.

  • THEY TOLD REPORTERS IT WAS BECAUSE HE HAD TOO MANY ONIONS

  • ON HIS BURGER.

  • CLEVELAND WENT AWAY AND GOT JAW SURGERY AND WORE A FACE MASK TO

  • HEIGHT HIDEIT.

  • THE TRADITION HAS BEEN TO HIDE THESE THINGS.

  • WHILE THE INFORMATION COMING FROM THE WHITE HOUSE HAS BEEN A

  • LITTLE BIT SPOT, WATCHING IT HAPPEN IN REAL TIME IS QUITE

  • NEW, AND PRESIDENTS CAN ONLY SORT OF PROTECT THIS INFORMATION

  • AS MUCH AS-- NOT VERY MUCH IN THE AGE OF EVERYTHING BEING

  • FILMED.

  • >> Stephen: JOHN WE HAVE TO TAKE A QUICK BREAK.

  • STICK AROUND, EVERYBODY.

  • WHEN WE COME BACK, I'LL ASK JOHN ABOUT HOW THIS MAY AFFECT THE

  • CONFIRMATION HEARINGS FOR AMY CONEY BARRETT.

  • WE'LL BE RIGHT BACK.

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sort

US /sɔrt/

UK /sɔ:t/

  • verb
  • To arrange things in a systematic way, typically into groups.
  • To arrange things in groups according to type.
  • To organize things by putting them into groups
  • To deal with things in an organized way
  • noun
  • A category of things or people with a common feature; a type.
  • Group or class of similar things or people
pandemic

US /pænˈdɛmɪk/

UK /pæn'demɪk/

  • noun
  • a pandemic disease
  • adjective
  • (of a disease) existing in almost all of an area or in almost all of a group of people, animals, or plants
compromise

US /ˈkɑmprəˌmaɪz/

UK /'kɒmprəmaɪz/

  • noun
  • An agreement or settlement of a dispute that is reached by each side making concessions.
  • When you lessen your demands to get agreement
  • other
  • To settle a dispute by mutual concession.
  • other
  • To settle a dispute by mutual concession.
  • To endanger or weaken something.
  • To accept standards that are lower than is desirable.
  • To cause to be vulnerable or function less effectively.
  • verb
  • To weaken your position or views
  • To lessen your demands so as to reach agreement
  • To put something at risk or in danger
debate

US / dɪˈbet/

UK /dɪ'beɪt/

  • other
  • To argue about a subject, especially in a formal manner.
  • other
  • To consider something; to think about something carefully before making a decision.
  • To discuss a subject in a formal way.
  • To discuss a subject in a formal way, presenting different opinions.
  • noun
  • General public discussion of a topic
  • A discussion or argument on a subject where people express different opinions.
  • A formal event where two sides discuss a topic
  • A formal discussion or argument about a subject.
  • verb
  • To consider options before making a decision
  • To take part in a formal discussion
basically

US /ˈbesɪkəli,-kli/

UK /ˈbeɪsɪkli/

  • adverb
  • Used before you explain something simply, clearly
  • Used as a filler word or discourse marker, often to indicate a summary or simplification.
  • In the most important respects; fundamentally.
  • In essence; when you consider the most important aspects of something.
  • Primarily; for the most part.
  • In a simple and straightforward manner; simply.
campaign

US /kæmˈpen/

UK /kæm'peɪn/

  • noun
  • Series of actions meant to achieve a goal
  • A planned set of military activities intended to achieve a particular objective.
  • A series of military operations intended to achieve a particular objective, confined to a specific area or involving a specified type of fighting.
  • A series of planned activities designed to achieve a particular aim.
  • A series of planned activities designed to achieve a particular aim.
  • A series of planned activities designed to achieve a particular social, political, or commercial aim.
  • verb
  • To work in an organized, active way towards a goal
  • other
  • To work in an organized and active way towards a particular goal, typically a political or social one.
  • other
  • To promote or advocate for something in a planned and active way.
conversation

US /ˌkɑnvɚˈseʃən/

UK /ˌkɒnvəˈseɪʃn/

  • other
  • A series of related interactions between a user and a computer system.
  • A formal meeting for discussion.
  • A discussion between two or more people.
  • other
  • A session of communication with a chatbot or AI.
  • Informal talk involving a relatively small number of people.
  • General communication or interaction.
  • Skill in talking to others.
  • noun
  • Talking with other people; discussion or chat
strike

US /straɪk/

UK /straɪk/

  • noun
  • A punch or hit
  • Fact of not hitting the ball when playing baseball
  • In bowling, the act of knocking down all the pins with the first ball.
  • A refusal to work organized by a body of employees as a form of protest, typically in order to gain a concession or concessions from their employer.
  • A military attack, especially an air raid.
  • Refusal to work to get more pay, protest something
  • verb
  • To hit something
  • To suddenly become (e.g. rich)
  • To hit forcefully and deliberately.
  • To have an idea occur to you
  • To remove or erase.
sneak

US /snik/

UK /sni:k/

  • other
  • To move around in such a way no one will see you
  • verb
  • To move around in a way so no one will see you
  • To take something somewhere/give secretly
  • noun
  • Person who tells the secrets of others
relentless

US /rɪˈlɛntlɪs/

UK /rɪ'lentləs/

  • adjective
  • Continuing without slowing or losing strength
  • Persistent and determined; refusing to give up or be deterred.
  • Unceasingly intense; harsh or inflexible.
  • That does not weaken or give up; constant.