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  • I.

  • I understand you are a Star Trek fan.

  • Absolutely.

  • That certainly was a show inspired.

  • A utopian future inspired by technology.

  • I'm curious.

  • What about that show shaped your vision of an optimistic future?

  • I I was a sucker for Star Trek when I was a kid, even though when you look back, I think they're only 20 episodes.

  • They just looked over and over again.

  • But they're always fun to watch what made the show.

  • I think lasting Waas.

  • It wasn't actually about technology.

  • It was about values and human relationships.

  • And which is why it didn't matter, that the special effects were kind of cheesy and bad.

  • Yeah, are they land on the planet?

  • And remember, Is all this paper machine boulders?

  • But it didn't matter because it was really talking about a notion of common humanity and confidence in our ability to solve problems.

  • Um, and have the recent movie, I think, captured with the same spirit the Martian I mentioned that is my favorite movie last year because it had a hugely complicated plot.

  • But it showed a bunch of different people just trying to solve a problem and employing creativity and grit and hard work and having confidence that if it's out there, we can figure it out.

  • And I do think that what I love most about America, this country, why it continues to attract people from all around the world.

  • For all the challenges that we face is bad spirit of what we can figure this out.

  • And and what I value most about science is this notion that we can figure this out.

  • Well, we're gonna try this.

  • If it doesn't work, we're gonna figure out why it didn't work.

  • And then we're gonna try something else.

  • And we will revel in our mistakes because that is gonna teach us how to ultimately crack the code on the thing that we're trying to solve.

  • And if we ever lose that spirit, then uh, then we're gonna, I think, lose what's essential about America and what I think is essential about being human thing.

  • The only thing I would add, I totally agree.

  • I love the optimism, but I also think that it's amazingly the federation's very diverse cruise.

  • Very diverse, since a bunch of diverse group of people and the bad guys aren't usually evil, they're just misguided or broken and So.

  • So It's a much more optimistic view of humans as well, you know, And then a lot of shows that are about superheroes or evil and the struggles are are kind of one wonderfully sort of balance.

  • I think that's right.

  • I think Star Trek, like any good story, says that we're all complicated.

  • We all got a little bit of spot and a little bit of hurt, a little bit of Scotty, and maybe some cling on in this room.

  • But, um, but this is what I mean about figuring it out.

  • Part of figuring it out is being able to work across barriers or differences.

  • Um, and there's a certain faith in rationality tempered by some humility, which is true of the best start in the best science and, uh, the best literature, a sense that you possess the these incredible minds that way should use, and we're still just scratching the surface on him.


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