Teoh almost everyday reality now, and it's changing our lives in really profound ways.

I think, personally speaking, it's one of the most exciting developments that I've encountered at Wired.

And I'm curious just to turn it over to both of you and to talk about this joins the expert, so I'm gonna defer to him.

But my general observation is you said, is that it is seeping into our lives and all sorts of ways that we just don't notice on.

Part of the reason is because, uh the way we think about a I, uh, is colored by popular culture and by science fiction.

And I know it's a familiar distinction toe a lot of your readers between General AI and Specialized AI specialized.

AI is really the stuff that we've been doing for quite some time.

We're just getting better and better at it.

That is figuring out using algorithms whether computers configure out increasingly complex tasks.

And we're seeing that happen in every aspect of our lives, from medicine to transportation, how electricity is distributed, and it promises to create a vastly more productive and efficient economy.

And if properly harnessed can generate enormous prosperity for people.

Opportunity for people can cure diseases that we haven't seen before can make us safer because it eliminates inherent human error in a lot of work.

But it also has some downsides that we're gonna have to figure out in terms of, if not eliminating jobs requiring people to think differently about their occupations.

It could increase inequality on.

We've seen that in technology generally and globalization, it can suppress wages.

And so we're gonna have to develop new social constructs in order to embrace fully and optimize this this new technology in science fiction.

When you hear about his generalized ai right, so computers start getting smarter and we are eventually conclude that we're not all that useful.

Then off we go off we go or either there, you know, drugging us and keeping us patent happier.

You know, we're in the Matrix living in a simulation on or we're living in a simulation.

Now, Joey say there's a lot more.

My impression, based on talking toe my top sciences advisers, is is that we're still a reasonably a long way away from that kind of generalized ai.

It's worth thinking about only because, uh, it stretches our imaginations, and it gets us to think about what our core values and issues of choice and free will that actually do have some significant applications for specialized A.

But generally speaking, that's probably not the thing that we need to worry about the most.

Right now, we need to figure out how do we get what's already happening around us?

But it's just gonna be more and more incorporated our daily lives.

How do we get that right?

I think this may upset some of my students at M I T.

But one of the concerns that I have about a eyes It's been a predominantly male gang of kids, mostly white, who were more comfortable talking computers and human beings that have been building the core computer science around the eye.

And not all but a lot of them feel that if they could just make that science fiction generally, I we wouldn't have to worry about all the messy stuff like politics and society, and there's almost like a church of this belief and headquartered in Silicon Valley in So So that's a concern because I think a lot of people figure that the machines will just figure it all out, and they underestimate the difficulty.

And I feel like this is the year that artificial intelligence becomes not just a computer science problem, but something that the White House, that I've been working very closely with.

A friar in the Dominican Order who's trying to understand Bitcoin, encryption and AI from the perspective of the Catholics.

And so so I think that a lot of other people need to be involved, and the difficulty has been that the computer science community, they're not an easy gang to talk to.

And so and I think you know, the White House here, your your your team and yourself.

You've probably got in your head around this more than any other, um, anybody else in history and it's good timing because I think everybody needs to understand it, and I think that that's that's That's a That's a key piece.

I think it's and we used at the media that we're using the term extended intelligence because we don't think it's going to be us and an ai ai just like Google, just like everything will be built into the laws into the government into society and how that behaves is important and it's like the Internet.

And when we were doing a lot of the early work on the Internet, we thought it would just solve democracy.

Doctors just get better, but now you've got these didn't work out so well and we do think that we can push the pendulum back.