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  • This interview's over.

  • Hey, what's going on?

  • Everybody For first we feast, I'm Sean Evans and you're watching hot ones.

  • It's the show with hard questions and even hotter wings and say we're joined by Isa Ray.

  • She's the Emmy nominated creator and star of HBO's hit series Insecure Now in its third season.

  • Catch it on Sundays, 10:30 p.m. Eastern Glowing up An easy Easter A welcome to the show Not Thank you for having me.

  • You said in a recent AM A that you can never have enough hot sauce.

  • So I take it you're comfortable around spicy wings.

  • I love spicy food, but I also have the comfort of, you know, water next to me.

  • So I'm gonna just, you know, you ready?

  • Get going.

  • I'm ready to get going.

  • All right, so this 1st 1 is the howler monkey and you'll start at the handle Started to handle.

  • All right.

  • I'm so hungry.

  • So thank you.

  • Spot off with a little spice, which I love.

  • So we couldn't get you in here without talking about insecure Season three.

  • The streets are buzzing.

  • I see billboards all over the place.

  • But before we get into it.

  • I think we need to address the elephant in the room, and that's Lawrence hive Cut described Lawrence Hive is the male answer to the Beehive.

  • For the uninitiated, what is Lawrence hive and what effect has it had on your life?

  • Lawrence?

  • I've has had no effect on my life.

  • I mean, it's been it's been great because so many guys are invested in the show, and the fact that they rallied around J.

  • Ellis as he's playing this earnest character is incredible.

  • But they're out of hand that a pocket.

  • They're really, really intense.

  • Um, which is what you dream of when you create a show of all the restaurants that you guys have featured on the show, which is your favorite to visit in real life.

  • Oh, it is more this season, like we go to a place called Hands Season, which I like, eat breakfast at all the time whenever I can.

  • Uh, the line.

  • I love Roy Choi's restaurants so that pot, their eyes vomit Commentary from to the top O Mercado.

  • Of course, first episode.

  • Violet Ethiopian Food.

  • That restaurant is was like my first introduction.

  • One of my first introductions in a late to Ethiopian food.

  • This was really good.

  • E se.

  • It's like barbecue.

  • Okay, But you can still taste.

  • No, I think it's just scorched earth like it's okay that's not lost all you have a competitive edge.

  • So while it Stanford, you created a Web series, Dorm Diaries, which you said was birth from procrastination and being on YouTube constantly.

  • Do you remember the Web shows or Internet videos that you're watching back then?

  • People live sinking people at the zoo.

  • Oh, there are a lot of their ism applies video that I used to love.

  • He did like this reality show called Busted Baby, and it is the most iconic video to this day that I've ever seen.

  • Anyone know if it's done on the Internet?

  • Um, but a lot of just colleagues people creating snow and then your big about writing what you know when it's clear from watching awkward black girl from watching and secure that you've had some boring asshole nine to fives in your life when you think back about the strange jobs you had before show business.

  • Are there any that stand out?

  • Um, yeah.

  • Working in a slave ship at a museum.

  • E.

  • That was hard.

  • You know, I'm not as hard to slavery, but, um, it was depressing to be there every single day.

  • And that was Yeah.

  • I'm glad I'm out.

  • I'm glad I made it up.

  • So this next one is the pirates lantern.

  • Who names these vampires?

  • Lambert.

  • Lantern like causes fire.

  • Okay, I get it.

  • Don't go.

  • I don't like it is bitter.

  • It has some mustard action to it.

  • I'm sorry.

  • Paris Landing.

  • You need to apologize.

  • Okay, So if anyone ever gave hot ones of $1 million budget, I have no idea what we do with the money.

  • How we'd spend in some curious when HBO gave you your first big bag to make insecure Season one.

  • What was the most awesome thing about having money, and then what was like, the biggest waste?

  • I used to do this for $5 in my dorm room thing.

  • Oh, man.

  • Oh, definitely going in the Staples Center in shooting a fake hockey game.

  • Expensive, super expensive, and was doubled by HBO's.

  • We were gonna try to fake it because we're like, we can't We can't afford to go to Staples Center.

  • The real games happening, and we were gonna, like, pass it up on the budget and then shout out to Amy, Grab it.

  • One of the executives, like Like if Silicon Valley can shoot in in the Staples Center, spoken insecure.

  • So let's make it happen.

  • Don't fake this.

  • Let's do it for real.

  • It's like what we gotta like that and the most wasted money thing that still infuriates me is when we have to shoot like car scenes.

  • She did a lot of this season.

  • It takes like hours to set up because you have, like, a process trailer.

  • And we used to, just like I used to be, like home again in the car.

  • I'm gonna drive.

  • You, get you driving the next car, Just hold the camera like this and we got the shot, you know, or put a camera on the dashboard, and it's so expensive and time consuming that they won't just let you put a camera in the car.

  • Let's say there's someone watching this in Omaha, Nebraska, there, 1500 miles away from Hollywood, and they have in their hands what they think is the best screenplay since The Godfather.

  • How would you suggest they get someone important to read it.

  • Someone just yesterday stopped me.

  • I was walking a Times Square with walking through Times Square because I wanted to see our billboard.

  • I've never seen a billboard that large big out there.

  • It's awesome.

  • And this guy stopped me.

  • He was like, Whoa, I may never have a chance to see you get a minute of your time on me I'm walking here and he was like I wrote the screenplay and I just want to know, like, What do I need to do?

  • And I was like, Make a trailer, make that shit, show people why they want to see it and then people will come to you.

  • And I think that's my biggest thing.

  • If your thing is the next godfather, if you have a teaser trailer for or you shoot a scene that's phenomenal, that piques people's interest.

  • We're just in an age where everybody's just like ready to support wasn't open.

  • This'll one's interesting, too.

  • So you're a child of the Internet, a master at the craft of relationship writing in a self proclaimed professional stocker.

  • What I want to do is take an opportunity to talk to you about the bizarre world of dating in the age of technology.

  • Do you think that APS like tinder and the league are and that positive or net negative for the dating scene?

  • We're trying to hook up way convenience.

  • They're, like, perfect.

  • If you're trying to get to know someone, then, like so many people these days because we have so many options, it's so easy to get turned off by one thing like you could buy the wrong thing on your profile to be ridiculed for it.

  • It's just another way to meet people and make the world a flatter place way have a friend that responds toe every tender match by saying we did it with two trophy emojis.

  • Is that genius or a psychopath?

  • Every Max, every match he hits him with.

  • We did it in two trophy emojis, and that's insincere.

  • I don't like it.

  • I don't like it.

  • And then the writing and insecure is really on the zeitgeist.

  • But there are few places where millennial slaying travels faster than in the world of dating.

  • So what I want to do is hit you with some new school dating terms.

  • If you know them, Maybe you can define them for the audience out there.

  • And if you don't know that, maybe you can guess what they mean.

  • They're all really?

  • They're all really breadcrumb ng.

  • What, Fred.

  • Right.

  • Coming.

  • Is that like when you are these?

  • Is that when you like I eat it Sort of is like extra shit crew.

  • So what?

  • It is leading someone on with the trail of flirtatious messages, but then shutting them out.

  • That was close.

  • Your very close.

  • Very close.

  • Benji Benching.

  • Oh, when you're like taking a break from your hose, right, you have a rotation, you have a roster, and you gotta put one to the side.

  • You gotta put a couple on the bench.

  • Yes.

  • Bing, bing, Bing, Bing, bing Cuffing season cuffing season Is that time?

  • Usually during winter months, maybe starting and fall late for where you got to find a Buddhist.

  • A warm it is.

  • And then the slow fade is that when you're basically ghosting, you kind of like give a message here and there you slowly Rocco Well, and then one more kitten fishing.

  • That sounds don't be set up, But I think about Kitten.

  • Nothing about Lucy.

  • You're his lesser form of catfishing, like using old pictures or having a witty friend text for you.

  • I love that you like Cyrano de Bergerac messages and through the attacks.

  • That is a very good name.

  • Okay, let's go.

  • First of all these things about where they actually from, thank you.

  • I was about to take credit for him like I made him, but we get him from place called My Belly's Playlist.

  • My belly's playlist is on point already, So we ever crane segment on our show called Explain That, Graham.

  • We do a deep dive in our guest Instagram pull interesting pictures that need more context.

  • So I'll bust out the laptop.

  • I'll show you the picture and then you tell me the bigger story is that some of my instagram of your instagram But we actually pulled some Gettys.

  • Okay, last time, right?

  • He's all right, Isa.

  • First things first All star game with Didi.

  • That was a blast.

  • I wasn't I didn't go with him.

  • I wish I did, But it was my first time meeting him and I was just sitting courtside.

  • I got tickets and he was diagnosed.

  • He came over and asked for a picture with meat was like, what?

  • The book.

  • And then he invited me to lunch.

  • He was like, Let's go.

  • To mention I was like, Okay, this is Hollywood was like, No, I want to have you over my house tonight.

  • And then he really text me and followed through.

  • And that was in the writer's room.

  • And I was like, Guys, I gotta go to Diddy's house for lunch.

  • Didn't tell the map.

  • And I thought it was gonna be a quick thing, but he tried to have, like, a full course.

  • Let me heal.

  • You think it was incredible, But I was, like, get back to where he was like Okay, that's okay.

  • We'll rush it.

  • Bring on, of course, is out of once.

  • And I felt bad.

  • I haven't been back.

  • All right.

  • Do you have a Tiffany story?

  • Do I have a Tiffany story?

  • I have a lot of Tiffany stories, but I'm not gonna say them because that's what we do right to story.

  • Stay between us.

  • I do.

  • Never mind.

  • I'm not gonna tell that story once you can't leave us there.

  • I will say, one of my first time getting to hang out with Tiffany she met is one of my favorite stories.

  • She met one of our cast members way remain nameless.

  • I had a little party in my hotel room.

  • Essence fest, harm Girl Strip had just come out with just all come from seeing the premier there.

  • And she was like, What a party at?

  • And I was like, girls in my, um, hotel come through.

  • Then we can go other places and she meets one of our cast members, comes into the door, does a bee line and is like, Hey, I'm Tiffany has a champagne glass in her hand and is like ham tipping in demonstrates last her skills is that he's like, okay.

  • And so then throughout the night, she was drinking more and she sat next to him and got in his face and was just like, you like the *** that likes to get slapped.

  • I'm a slap, but he was like, Well, actually, I don't I don't like to get slapped.

  • And she was like, Yes, you do.

  • I'm a slap you right now.

  • You'll cook and just continued to berate him.

  • But then when he told this story later, he was like Oh, yeah.

  • Tiffany was trying to holler and omitted that part, right.

  • Which tells me that I think he actually likes to get slapped.

  • I let you guess to the cast member was So this is where you said it starts to get.

  • I could see what was going.

  • My nose just did a little pop.

  • Okay.

  • Black Gothic, Carolina Reaper.

  • Is that that hot super hot pepper?

  • Yeah, I've eaten two of those.

  • Actually.

  • You've eaten the actual Bevers.

  • Yeah, like the full pot popped it two times.

  • Why did you do this For the views, Respect so insecure has joined the likes of shows like Entourage and the O.

  • C.

  • With this incredible track record for breaking music, I'm curious.

  • Book goes into sound tracking a season of insecure.

  • You guys fight over tracks.

  • Who's the tastemaker?

  • What's the BTS on that?

  • Um, last of love.

  • You know, it started with salons being our music consultant.

  • That was great, but I've always known like from jump.

  • I was like, art show show could be trashed, but the music's gonna be fired.

  • Caus music informs so much of like how much how I see things and even high right way had so many songs that we loved in common, like even for choosing broken pussy we had initially it was set to Missy's Sock it to me.

  • I love that song and I insisted that truck was fire, but we couldn't get the rights to it in time.

  • And so it's a long sent.

  • A whole bunch of alternative options in Boston was on there, and it was like the perfect fit.

  • And then since then, we'll find independent artists.

  • Female artists must win.

  • No, you look great.

  • You look great.

  • Glowing up ain't easy as they say.

  • No, it's not.

  • So this next one is the Buster's black label out of Australia.

  • Australia doesn't play already.

  • Know I'm worried.

  • Lemony Okay was lemony and spicy.

  • I want to focus on the East arrayed do it yourself blueprint cause we've touched on a little bit today you went from making Web shows in your dorm room to them, making this hit Emmy nominated show for HBO.

  • What was your first mom?

  • I made a moment.

  • My mom.

  • I made it more Dad.

  • I made it because Dad wasn't one that was hard to impress was being on NPR because I was like, Oh, you know, you fucked with NPR, Dad.

  • So stop telling me to go to grad school because you heard me on this.

  • You know, um, but even when I sent, like after NPR, I got an opportunity to work with Shawn did and send it to the group chat like the family grew chap, and he was still like, Okay, great.

  • When you're going to grad school, though, what's the most ridiculous gossip headline you've ever read about yourself?

  • Um, that I turned Drake down at a party.

  • Is that that, um, it was dope?

  • I was like, Great.

  • Give me some clout, but is ridiculous because I'm a huge fan.

  • All right, You ready to move on?

  • I don't know.

  • I really don't.

  • I'm going back.

  • And even these because of my mom and my family, it tastes hot.

  • Is that one of those things that's gonna kick him?

  • It is.

  • I answer my question.

  • Okay.

  • Still going in.

  • Okay.

  • All right.

  • He's effort that you're always a TV obsessive, more so than film, and with as much ground as insecure has broken, it embraces humor and awkwardness, which is part of a larger comedy genre.

  • So what I want to do is show you some icons of that genre and then just get your snap reaction to them.

  • All right, so I'll just show you.

  • But you're still going in because it's literally delicious.

  • All right, so first things first.

  • I really didn't hear your question because my mom was Barney.

  • Curb your enthusiasm.

  • Favorite ist ever love leering, Arrested development of wax The Seasons four times now and that laugh and find something new every single time.

  • I wish I could tell the story that brilliantly three office, the greatest sitcom ever and one of the best love stories on television.

  • And one more for you.

  • Parks and recreation Any part of my career goals.

  • I also love Donna in parks and rec.

  • She gave us treat yourself, which is my mantra.

  • Treat yourself.

  • Yes.

  • Should we treat ourself to another wing?

  • Was a good transition I have fired.

  • This I can seek is the respect of hot looks like someone spit on this one.

  • This interview's over a tough one, but still this is too much that picture, and they have like a psychotic clown on the firm.

  • This is smiling and its fiery food.

  • I feel foolish for eating it, so I know that you're really began honing your craft while at Stanford.

  • Some curious.

  • What's one Stanford stereotype that's totally off?

  • And then one that holds true like Is there anything to that Stanford Doc syndrome thing?

  • Oh, that is theirs.

  • Yes, there's a lot to that.

  • I love that, actually about description of Stanford students, just in terms of for people who aren't familiar.

  • People like act like I'm taking 22 minutes, you know, it's no big deal, and they look like they're floating, but beneath their just paddle into stay afloat.

  • And that's definitely a true thing.

  • People always try to front like this.

  • Should his heart just say it's hard, you're struggling because we are like, but it's a great community, and I always thought I thought people were gonna be stuck up.

  • I don't want to go there.

  • I didn't apply.

  • But going there for like, the Admit weekend was like, Oh, fuck that this school.

  • And then while you were there, you made a couple dorm room music videos.

  • Do you have a favorite bar from working the V or 90?

  • Um, a favorite bar 90.

  • Yes, because I felt like we inspired cardi b.

  • I don't care.

  • Okay.

  • It was 90 pops with a friend.

  • 90 puffs with a man.

  • You can even be given 90 pop on a handstand remembers all free stuff.

  • I was so proud of myself.

  • All right, Isa Ray, this is the last dab we call it the last dab.

  • Because it's tradition around here to put a little extra on the last wing.

  • You don't have to if you don't want to know if you're doing it, I'm doing There we go.

  • It's going down.

  • This is running this shit.

  • Okay, here we go.

  • Um, throw burns.

  • What a ride it's been.

  • I think this is yours that you made.

  • It's like you like to just top it off.

  • It really sneaks up on you.

  • Well, that's how we close it out, Isa.

  • And from the howler monkey to the last dab the glow up.

  • It's just a little bit too, really.

  • But there's just one more hurdle standing between you and the finish line.

  • Your character and Insecure is famous for revealing her truest Ross emotions when she's doing these mirror freestyles.

  • So now that you can see your own reflection.

  • And the sauce is that you've conquered today.

  • Can you hit the people with a few bars about your fight, your battle with wings of death?

  • Um, you know, I don't do this right.

  • I'm a terrible freestyle sitting here with my motherfucking wings.

  • I'm doing this shit like hot things I'm so fly Get a chicken wing in my mouth I'm a die But I got the heat Just like these wings If you mad at me i'ma bring you with things Dad means my guns I am the one Hot sun, Get the gun.

  • Okay, Wait.

  • That was amazing.

  • It was brilliant.

  • I'm inspired.

  • Look at you all the way through the wings of death.

  • 10 wings up, 10 wings down.

  • And now there's nothing left to do but brought the red carpet for you.

  • Easy thing.

  • Camera.

  • This camera.

  • Let the people know what you have going on in your life.

  • Um, I I'm suffering right now.

  • Uh, but I'm just so excited for season three of insecure premieres.

  • Sunday, 10.

  • 30 every Sunday.

  • Watch it with your friends.

  • Put someone someone new onto it.

  • Thank you for feeding me.

  • I was very hungry.

  • I think that's the only reason I survived.

  • I want to see if this works.

  • Please.

  • You wouldn't No water, no milk.

  • I did.

  • Wow.

  • You know, that's actually kind of a legendary thing.

  • Is it?

  • And people when they go No, my daughter, No milk.

  • They make such a big deal of it.

  • Look, I'm going.

  • No water, no milk.

  • But like you just casually did it.

  • But I didn't know that I was allowed.

  • To be honest, I didn't know I was allowed to have water.

  • Thank you.

  • Such great questions.

  • A 1,000,002.

  • 1,000,003.

  • That's pretty good form.

  • Phil, get that cool shirt.

  • Didn't hear how one's merch.

  • It's available now.

  • I thought you only wore Where's Waldo shirts I used to wear Where's well, their shirts.

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