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  • [LGR]: It's time to play Duke 3D on Zip disks and chew bubble gum.

  • And I'm all out of... Wait, no, I've got more Zip disks!

  • (typing, trumpet-led jazz music)

  • Greetings and welcome to another episode of LGR Oddware,

  • where we're taking a look at hardware and software that is odd, forgotten,

  • and obsolete.

  • And is definitely the Zip drive. (chuckles)

  • This I've been wanting to talk about for a long time.

  • And, yeah, as far as I'm concerned,

  • it is Oddware.

  • It's a little bit odd in the way it works.

  • It's definitely forgotten by a lot of folks.

  • And obsolete? Absolutely.

  • I mean, this is a parallel port drive,

  • only 100 megs.

  • But of course, there were a whole lot of different types of these.

  • We're gonna look at several of them.

  • And go over the history of it a little bit

  • and setting it up and trying it out with some things,

  • seeing what it can do.

  • Let's do it!

  • - [LGR] This is the Iomega Zip 100.

  • A parallel port version, an external drive.

  • Yeah, this is the very first model that they introduced

  • in very late 1994

  • at Comdex in November.

  • From the Iomega Corporation based in Roy, Utah.

  • This was a 3½-inch floppy disk alternative of sorts,

  • sometimes called a "super floppy."

  • It had 100 MB, but they went all the way up to 750 MB per disk,

  • or cartridge, in 2002,

  • which was the highest capacity model of these things.

  • They originally cost around 200 bucks for the base drive bundle,

  • like this parallel port one here.

  • And a bit more for things like the SCSI versions,

  • and there were internal ones as well

  • that used an IDE interface, among other things.

  • Either way, a couple hundred bucks or so.

  • And then it was $20 per disk originally.

  • And that may sound like a lot, but remember,

  • this was equivalent to what were 70 high-density 3½-inch floppy disks,

  • so it really was kind of a bargain.

  • And yeah, I've been wanting to talk about these things for years now.

  • I've got a lot of requests to. I run across them in thrift stores

  • on LGR Thrifts and such,

  • and people are always asking, "Oh, why don't you cover a Zip drive?"

  • And I'm like, "Okay, here we are."

  • I've also gotten some requests being like,

  • "Don't forget the Jazz and the Rev drives and things like that."

  • Well those are different, actually.

  • They're removable hard disk cartridges.

  • And there's also Iomega ZipCD,

  • which had nothing to do with the Zip technology here.

  • It was just a standard CD writer.

  • So yeah, today we're really just gonna be talking about

  • these original Zip drives, the Zip 100s.

  • So Iomega had actually been around since 1980,

  • selling all sorts of different storage things

  • and at the point that they introduced Zip drive,

  • their most current things were the Bernoulli and the Ditto drives.

  • The Bernoulli one I've covered in the past

  • and the Ditto was just a tape drive.

  • These were nothing particularly exciting or selling very well.

  • In fact, the company sales were stagnant

  • and they needed something

  • to get the company growing.

  • But the Zip, holy crap, that ended up being

  • a massive hit almost immediately.

  • The timing was right, the price was right,

  • they were relatively cheap,

  • and it ended up being their biggest hit.

  • In fact, the company's equity increased by 2,000 percent

  • the year after the Zip was introduced.

  • And it wasn't without it's competition

  • and other people trying similar ideas

  • within those years or so, in that mid-'90s area.

  • Things like the LS-120, the SuperDisk,

  • the UHD-144

  • and the Sony HiFD.

  • These are all prime Oddware targets in the future, of course.

  • But yeah, anyway, Zip, right?

  • Zip was the mainstream thing.

  • It was so popular, BIOS manufacturers like AMI and Phoenix

  • included support for these right from the get-go.

  • You could boot your computer from a Zip disk.

  • Don't even mess with floppy disks at all if you don't want to.

  • And it was also used in devices like music samplers,

  • aircraft navigation systems,

  • and even Iomega got into their own game, so to speak.

  • They introduced something called the FotoShow,

  • which hooked up to TVs and let you display pictures through Zip disks.

  • I have one of those, and I'm gonna cover that in a separate video.

  • Yeah, while these things were massively popular,

  • and people bought them up like crazy,

  • the quality control was a mixed bag.

  • I mean, sure they were a little cheaper

  • than some of the competition and whatnot,

  • But it got them into some trouble

  • because later models especially

  • were prone to something called the "Click of Death,"

  • where the read-write heads inside would misalign,

  • sometimes ripping the heads off entirely,

  • losing data, destroying the drive, and it was a problem.

  • So much so that there was a lawsuit, a class-action lawsuit,

  • Rinaldi v. Iomega.

  • They alleged that the warranty was vague

  • and Iomega was sort of covering this thing up

  • and there were a bunch of other things in there.

  • And eventually, it was settled.

  • Iomega had to send out product rebates

  • to buyers of Zip drives

  • for a future product from Iomega.

  • So it's just kinda like, "Here, we know our product sucks."

  • "Buy some more with this rebate."

  • It's kind of a stupid settlement if you ask me, but anyway. (laughs)

  • It's also pretty amusing that Iomega actually made a Clik! drive

  • at the same time as the "Click of Death" debacle

  • and the class-action lawsuit.

  • They renamed it the Pocket Zip later on.

  • It just... yeah, Clik! drive.

  • That's a, that's a pretty classic misstep

  • just by accident.

  • This definitely put a dent in Iomega's reputation,

  • but it didn't actually kill them.

  • What did that

  • were a combination of things.

  • Mostly just technology changing and other stuff getting cheaper,

  • like CD-Rs and CD-RWs.

  • Those got really cheap and people weren't using Zip disk as much.

  • And, you know, they had much higher capacity.

  • By the time they came out with their 750 meg Zip drive,

  • then you had USB sticks and flash memory taking off like crazy.

  • And then that stuff got dirt cheap, and then nobody bought Zip drives any more.

  • Iomega stuck around, though.

  • In fact, they're still around, they're just called LenovoEMC, Limited.

  • But yeah, they made stuff for a long time,

  • they're still going, so it's kind of impressive, really.

  • And just as a sort of side note, since I know somebody's gonna ask:

  • No, Zip disks are not related to the .zip file compression format.

  • That was developed by Phil Katz

  • five years before Zip drives came out.

  • While naturally you can put .zip files on Zip disks,

  • that's not where the name came from.

  • It's just mean to imply "zippy."

  • Alright, so let's go ahead and take a look

  • at the Zip 100.

  • This is going to be the parallel port version.

  • There's also the SCSI one, but you can see that they're

  • pretty much identical, it's just the interface that is different.

  • I've always quite enjoyed that BMW key just

  • casually placed there in front of the Zip drive.

  • I'm sure that's not meant to infer

  • anything at all about the kind of customer they were hoping to attract.

  • BMWs and Zip drives, they go hand-in-hand.

  • "Zip disks can hold all your stuff. Work stuff,"

  • "home stuff, other stuff,"

  • even games.

  • Yeah, "Store and run all of your games."

  • Yeah, definitely gonna have to put that to the test.

  • Do note this as well. This says, "up to 20MB per minute transfer rate."

  • That would be very generous.

  • "Welcome to Zip drive. Inside is all the stuff you need

  • to get started."

  • So let's get started!

  • First up here, we have

  • the driver disk, the installation here for DOS, Windows 3.1 and Windows 95.

  • This is a June 1997 release.

  • I do find it a bit amusing that a floppy disk sort of replacement is

  • still relying on floppy disks to install itself, but, you know.

  • The Zip accessories, yes!

  • All sorts of things that Iomega put out there to

  • augment the Zip disk ecosystem.

  • "What are you gonna do with your new Zip drive?"

  • You could do whatever you want, I guess.

  • Like with all these stickers that say

  • all the things that you can do.

  • "I am Old Stuff." Yeah.

  • I would actually use that sticker, 'cause it's just true.

  • Got the installation guide here which is in one of these irritating

  • fold-out designs. I hate when instructions do this.

  • Just give me a stapled together little booklet.

  • There's no reason for this.

  • Same with the user's guide. It opens up and...

  • Yeah, there you go.

  • But it really is just super simple to use these things.

  • There's not a whole lot going on. You plug them in and it pretty much just works.

  • Well, it has a printer passthrough, so that's cool.

  • You can plug in your printer. This is taking up the parallel port in this version.

  • And here we go!

  • This is the contents right there,

  • and look how nice and tidy this is.

  • I found this at Goodwill like this, actually, so

  • I was pretty impressed. It looks brand new.

  • I mean...

  • Just look at that.

  • Has this ever been used?

  • I mean seriously. (chuckles)

  • The parallel cable is still sealed in its little package, so...

  • Let's go ahead and take a look at the media itself,

  • which is a Zip 100 disk, in this case.

  • And, yeah, check it out.

  • You can see what they were going for as far as the

  • "super floppy" floppy disk replacement kind of thing.

  • But there are some obvious differences.

  • A Zip disk is gonna be thicker, of course.

  • And where this opens up and reveals the magnetic media inside,

  • this one does not on the back.

  • The Zip disk actually opens up and you can see, sort of,

  • the media inside of that.

  • So it opens from the top.

  • The little read-write mechanism just goes in there like that.

  • You also see this little retro reflective bit?

  • This is going to tell the drive itself

  • what kind of disk has been inserted in there.

  • This has actually got Zip Tools on there already.

  • "Free Software! $100 value."

  • Of course, it was also pretty much just a free disk.

  • People just overwrote these, at least from what I remember.

  • But, yeah, there wasn't actually a lot of software

  • sold on Zip disks.

  • I think it was pretty much just limited to very niche applications

  • and certain things from Iomega, certain things for the music sequencers.

  • And here is

  • the drive itself.

  • What a nice little thing.

  • I like this window on the top there

  • with the little graphics showing you how things work.

  • The little rubber feets.

  • Which meant it could stand up like this.

  • I mean, it's just a cool piece of bluish-purple '90s tech.

  • It's, you know, not an unattractive thing.

  • This was definitely the most common one, as far as form factor.

  • External was seemingly more popular than internal,

  • at least in my experience, but there were a lot of internals as well.

  • So, yeah, the disk just goes in here

  • And there it is! And it's not gonna open

  • because this power, this eject button won't work

  • unless this thing is powered on.

  • So that's gonna be stuck in there until I plug it into the wall.

  • But let's take a look at what the internal disk drive looks like.

  • So this is just a factory-refurbished

  • version of the Zip 100 ATAPI internal drive.

  • That's why it's in such a plain friggin' box.

  • Mmm.

  • "Internal ATAPI drive."

  • So it looks like some similar kind of stuff here,

  • although it has Iomegaware on CD

  • and some other pack-in Norton crap.

  • On CD, not floppy disks.

  • This is definitely some sort of a later iteration. It's mentioning

  • Windows 2000 and NTFS. (chuckles)

  • Oh, how delightful and very spartan inside here.

  • Wow, I kinda like the way that's laid out.

  • So it looks like we have a power cable splitter right here,

  • IDE cable,

  • and some mounting screws.

  • So, yeah, it's just a drive.

  • Oh, I was wondering if it would come in its own bay here.

  • So this is a 3½-inch bay converted to 5¼.

  • I mean, it really does actually look a lot like

  • a hard drive meets a floppy disk.

  • And it looks like a hard disk in the back here

  • with the IDE connector,

  • the selectors here for master and slave and all that,

  • and then the four-pin power.

  • That's a full-size molex, not the smaller one

  • like you would see on a 3½-inch drive.

  • Uh, floppy drive. So yeah. Cool.

  • Well, let's try these out.

  • Alright, so it's just my Windows 98 project box

  • that I use to do a lot of capturing and stuff.

  • So, yeah, we're gonna install the internal one.

  • And I guess the parallel one, too, both into this.

  • I would use my 486,

  • but this one actually lists Windows 95B or higher

  • as a requirement, and that only runs DOS 6.22.

  • IDE cable right here.

  • And I got a power cable. Don't need to use that splitter that it came with.

  • And that should be pretty much it, other than the drivers.

  • Fresh parallel cable.

  • (sniffs) Mmm, smells like nothing. (chuckles)

  • Its newness has worn off over the years.

  • That plugs in right here into the free port.

  • And of course, that would be the passthrough for the printer, but we don't need it.

  • And the power somewhat interestingly goes in on the bottom/side here.

  • That sort of loops in there like that.

  • Cool. We got power, so we should be able to get the disk back out.

  • (chuckles) And there we go, somewhat forcefully.

  • (drive whirring)

  • What a nifty mechanism.

  • Yeah, let's try this out!

  • Probably gonna set these up separately.

  • So let's try the internal one first and then we'll try the parallel,

  • and maybe see what the speed difference is.

  • Okay, so it seems to have detected things,

  • so we'll see what happens here with

  • Iomegaware.

  • I wonder if Windows 98 has the drivers in there already.

  • It does!

  • Alright, well cool, it's already working here.

  • I just stuck in a Zip disk and

  • this is it!

  • Which makes total sense. Ooh, a Zip tour. (chuckles)

  • - [Voiceover] Welcome to Zip drive, the new place for all your stuff.

  • You've made the right decision.

  • Whether you write, play, paint, collect or plan,

  • Zip drive is your idea toolbox.

  • With old storage disks, the thinking went,

  • "What else can I squeeze on it?"

  • With Zip drive, why squeeze?

  • If you think you might need it, don't zap it... Zip it!

  • Our Zip Tools software helps you organize, move, protect,

  • and keep track of all that stuff

  • in ways that work for you.

  • Organize stuff by subject, date, client, whatever.

  • And you can take Zip drive with you.

  • - Did you see that 60 frame- per-second animation there?

  • That's high quality stuff!

  • All this from a disk.

  • See what it has in the Windows 95 stuff.

  • Okay...

  • Oh, it's moving things over pretty quickly. Nice!

  • Okay, so it put a thing on my Desktop. I didn't ask for that.

  • It's literally just like a file manager/browser,

  • and you can search for "things."

  • Which there's nothing named "things" on there, so it's not gonna find it.

  • Uh, okay, App Mover.

  • I'm assuming this moves apps to Zip drives.

  • Click an application.

  • Yeah, I'd rather just screw around with it myself.

  • I don't need applications to manage my files.

  • So here we go!

  • It's just like using literally any other type of removable media ever, pretty much.

  • Other interesting little tidbit about Zip disks is

  • they sometimes came dual-formatted, as is the case with this one I have.

  • So, it's in a Windows PC here, so I run this Reclaim thing,

  • and that's gonna let me

  • reclaim the rest of the space that was actually

  • formatted for the Mac.

  • If you were on a Mac, then it would reclaim the IBM PC-compatible side.

  • Quite a bit different that what you would do on a 3½-inch floppy disk.

  • Alright, so what I'm gonna do here

  • is copying everything off of there, just sort of backing it up.

  • And then I'm gonna clear it out

  • and copy over Duke Nukem 3D to the thing,

  • and try to run that straight off of the Zip disk.

  • And try it with the internal one and then try it versus the parallel one,

  • and see how long it takes.

  • Okay, let's go ahead and copy over Duke Nukem 3D

  • on the internal drive starting... now.

  • This is a whole 42 MB or so.

  • So, not quite half of the disk.

  • Alright, so I ended up with just a little over 53 seconds there

  • to copy over Duke Nukem 3D.

  • Which is...

  • Actually, that was 48 MB,

  • so just about half the disk.

  • This is coming straight off of the Zip disk.

  • (swoosh, boom sound)

  • That's cool. Seems to be working.

  • Working well, too!

  • Wow!

  • Honestly, I can't really tell any difference between

  • hard disk loading and the Zip drive in this case.

  • Ah, this is still my weirdly modified LGR intro.

  • It's missing the art assets.

  • (laughs) Whoops.

  • Okay. So that worked.

  • Let's try it with the parallel now,

  • because I have a feeling it's not gonna be quite the same.

  • I've always kind of liked external drives like this.

  • (drive whirring)

  • Alright, so I ran this Guest95 program,

  • and it detected this one as Drive G.

  • So, same disk. I'll just put it in there.

  • And we'll see what happens.

  • There we go. Okay, same files and everything.

  • Copying over Duke Nukem 3D starting...

  • now.

  • (laughs)

  • And it already says "14 minutes remaining."

  • We might be here a while.

  • Well, I am getting me a drink.

  • Ahh! Good old Cheerwine. I love this stuff.

  • "A hundred years of cheer."

  • So, yeah, we've passed the minute-and-a-half mark already.

  • It's just kind of sticking at this "duke3D.grp" file,

  • which is the largest file in the folder.

  • I mean, that makes sense.

  • Two-and-a-half minutes have passed and it is still going.

  • Still the same file.

  • And it still says "5 seconds remaining."

  • It just says that until I guess it's done.

  • It has no idea how long it's gonna take.

  • (clicking) And just past three-and-a-half minutes.

  • Still going on the same file.

  • Yeah, that's the four-and-a-half minute mark.

  • Still going on the same file. (laughs)

  • Oh, it's trying! (laughs)

  • At this rate, I'm gonna need some Meeseeks to help this thing along.

  • Six-and-a-half minutes!

  • Another minute has passed. It's still doing things.

  • It's still making noise.

  • This is why the gods invented SCSI and internal interface and...

  • Come on, Zip disk.

  • Alright!

  • Just shy of nine minutes there.

  • Eight minutes and practically 52 seconds.

  • Alright, let's get to the comparison!

  • Loading Duke Nukem 3D from the hard disk drive,

  • the internal Zip drive and the external one running over parallel.

  • Starting right... (key click) Now!

  • And there we go, got the little DOS window here going up.

  • And of course, the hard disk is pulling ahead quickly,

  • with the logos already going, already to the main menu.

  • Starting a new game here.

  • And that's 13 seconds that it took to get to E1M1 in Duke Nukem 3D.

  • Whereas the internal one is...

  • Oh, it's at the logo right there, too, at about 20 seconds.

  • So that's not too bad, really. That would be like a slower

  • hard drive at the time.

  • So, maybe for 1994, it actually was kind of comparable

  • to the speed of a hard drive.

  • However, you can see that the external one over parallel

  • is just now getting to the Duke Nukem 3D main loading area,

  • where it's dealing with the .grp files, configurations and stuff.

  • Yeah...

  • So, we have the internal one over here.

  • 53 seconds to get to E1M1.

  • (laughs) And the poor parallel drive is trying its best.

  • It's still just trying to get to the friggin' logos, man.

  • So we're gonna speed this up by kind of a lot.

  • Because it takes kind of a long time.

  • In fact, it took four minutes and 17 seconds

  • just to get to the main menu,

  • and it's not pretty. Just listen to this.

  • (stuttering MIDI rock music)

  • And these results aren't unexpected.

  • Parallel is notoriously slow for transferring large bits of data,

  • but you know, this was a drive that in this case

  • was more useful for backing up personal files and things like that,

  • not entire games, even though the box sort of boasted

  • that you could do that.

  • Another loading screen here for a while,

  • just trying to load the first level, and it takes, overall,

  • five minutes and 16 seconds or thereabouts to get to the start

  • of E1M1 in Duke 3D, and even then, again, it's not pretty.

  • Any time it needs to load in a new sound effect or

  • other asset in-game,

  • there's a lot of choppiness and stuttering.

  • Again, not unexpected at all,

  • but, eh, it's an interesting result to see in person.

  • One more slightly interesting thing to note about the Zip disk

  • and loading a game like Duke 3D off of there is

  • once it's in memory for that first initial loading,

  • you can actually quit the game, start it back up,

  • and you don't have to go through that whole five minutes

  • You're still gonna get some of that stuttering and stuff.

  • And this is only, of course, if you have enough memory.

  • So that does depend on RAM and system resources and such.

  • Either way, though,

  • this is obviously just not geared towards

  • running a full CD game like Duke 3D off of a Zip disk,

  • even though the box says you can do that.

  • I'm sure they didn't have these kind of games in mind.

  • I'm sure if you played something like Solitaire or SkiFree off of here,

  • it's be just fine.

  • But games that are larger and uses the full

  • 100 MB to its advantage is... (laughs)

  • It's not an advantage at all, it sucks.

  • But that's just Zip disks, and it's kind of

  • part of the charm of going back and exploring them again.

  • And kind of making me wonder how it would have been

  • if I had had one as a kid.

  • I would have definitely made use of it, and even with the slowness and the

  • crappy, crappy build quality and reliability issues

  • and all these things.

  • I would have really liked a Zip disk drive back then,

  • just because storing things on a ton of floppies was a pain.

  • That is for sure. We had to delete

  • so many of my games (laughs)

  • because we couldn't afford more floppy disks

  • and the hard disk was full, all 140 megs of it.

  • So, right. But yeah.

  • That's pretty much it for this episode of Oddware,

  • at least when it comes to

  • this particular set of Iomega and Zip disk stuff.

  • Maybe we'll revisit more from the company

  • in the future, but as of now,

  • I hope you enjoyed this episode.

  • And if you did, then why not check out some of my others.

  • All sorts of odd, forgotten and obsolete things I've covered here on LGR.

  • And new videos are coming out every Monday and Friday,

  • so stay tuned for those if you'd like.

  • And if you really like what you see here,

  • and you'd like to see videos early and such,

  • then you can support LGR on Patreon.

  • And as always, thank you very much for watching LGR.

[LGR]: It's time to play Duke 3D on Zip disks and chew bubble gum.

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