Essentially Ukrainian capitulation and the Americans Appear to be sharing a lot of talking points They're definitely sharing a lot of talking points with with the Americans Or is it the kind of peace that was being talked about by Keir Starmer and others at the weekend as they very openly?

And there's obviously the risk then of capitulation or Ukraine having to be forced into a very bad deal.

But there's a broad consensus here among political and security officials that this 28-point plan is really a capitulation for Ukraine, particularly concerning for Europeans are really the territorial concessions, which many here think would essentially just embolden Vladimir Putin.

I believe that then either what we will have as Ukraine capitulation, Russia continues to move on, or Russia stalls, the war continues.

Listen, this is Trump's President Trump's playbook, which is essentially mass, huge amount of forces and wait for capitulation.

Well, you know, I mean, if you look at just things we've done since last year, because I remember I was here last year as well and we were very worried that countries were going to give up on Ukraine, that maybe we were going to have a forced capitulation of Ukraine with the US and Russia negotiating a deal in 24 hours without the Europeans and the Ukrainians.

And with all the, the corporate capitulation we see every day, all the cowardice, I was glad to hear that the White House will not play host to the reigning NBA champions.

And of course, when the president says things like, "We're demanding," as he once said, "unconditional surrender," then when your back's against the wall, then, you know, any kind of capitulation could truly mean the end of the regime.

But I think what the president is trying to do is keep open options as long as possible so that he can pressure the Iranians towards some kind of agreement or capitulation.

but there is no sign of an Iranian capitulation.