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  • probably going to introduce a Hall of Fame in March in some of the runners and riders you've just seen there to.

  • Inductees will start it off the debate.

  • This is exactly what it's about.

  • So on Earth, would you put in that opening?

  • Per Jensen, a suggestion of players there in ultra standard definition.

  • Some of her shots Father Technology's come, Liam.

  • Too few that stand up straight away.

  • You could.

  • Could you tell me to?

  • For me, there's one that stands out for me in terms of longevity in terms of the era, that theme out of time that he played the mouth tight was that one what he did for our game in his country's Rancic's.

  • I think when he was a young, I think was 17 burst on the scene.

  • He was almost like he was remember him saying babies with next George Best for him to go from 17 toe, ending his career of 40.

  • I'm playing a Manchester United team and win 13 titles and playing away did.

  • He was unbelievable.

  • Winner could beat players, then changed his game, complains the number tank that in the end was sitting deep in the field and spraying passes.

  • I think the man's an absolute genius in the legend.

  • For me, he's the first name that comes to mind.

  • It seems to be that combination is in any way presume markets interpretation of what in your eyes makes a great player.

  • But as Liam says, it's the initial skill and the talent.

  • But to do it over two decades and just Hoover up trophies, that's phenomenal example of primitive quotes, an unbelievable achievement, incredible achievement in the physical athleticism involved into play at that level for so long.

  • Magnificent.

  • For me, I look at the lights of volunteer teary on me.

  • They're the ones we always speaking attacking players here.

  • I know they're the ones that stick out.

  • They catch your attention straightaway and the fans of the gold scores.

  • But for me, Alan Shearer's our songs with the Family scoring goals club and country hero on time side.

  • You look at that, that type of ability from the outstanding.

  • You also look when you're trying to quantify what share it did in his career.

  • Do you look at the team, perhaps that you played with obviously one that you won the primary with black but but if you look at it, the Newcastle team that he played with would be different.

  • What Ryan Giggs team would be in Manchester and of course, the quality you is obviously not quite the same.

  • So does that put his goalscoring feet onto an even greater place.

  • Has to you know the way, the number of goals, the variety of goals, A really so strong, so strong with the technique.

  • You look at that achievement magnificent.

  • But I have always looked at these attacking players and you forget the lights of Adams and Michael on.

  • You do the bait for Overhaulin out this and it's great.

  • I think we should celebrate the very offended.

  • That would be great, but you should celebrate the best.

  • I think it's a great way of doing it, but I know they do a lot in the American sports.

  • It seems to have taken its cue from that.

  • Yeah, and it's great.

  • You saw it was tragic.

  • Linger and Kobe Bryant passed away so tragically in you saw that the amount off people that he inspired and the lights of Ryan Giggs and Alan Shiri and what T area on redid in this time also so many more.

  • They inspire people to be great what they do in the young players coming through now.

  • So this is gonna be thrown up into family but to vote for this.

  • But when we are talking about it and I've asked you both, the question is it does it tap into what football at its most fundamental?

  • What's great about it?

  • It makes you feel something.

  • So when you're talking about Shearer appreciates the euphoric negative, Watch them score a goal here.

  • Ryan Giggs.

  • It's It's the goal against our through and taking the team apart.

  • So it it's gonna be fascinating to see how it's interpreted across the public and how they come to a decision is that they talk about the game.

  • But it's about the passion and the emotions that are involved, you know.

  • But other businesses multi £1,000,000,000 business is they don't come with the same level of fan engagement.

  • What it means, the clubs, the heartbeat of the community, what it means.

  • The local committee is so vitally important that you say arouses passions and emotions in so many people.

  • Young, old, male, female.

  • And that's the beauty of that.

  • I think that's the thing is no for me, there's no right or wrong.

  • I've seen on TV the greatest primal eating be developed, debated over and over again.

  • It's different for every single person.

  • Every person has their own favorite player from a memory from when they were a child, the first game they went to.

  • That's what makes the game fantastic.

  • So there's no right or wrong in this, and I've seen people heatedly debate was the Manchester 19.

  • He's been in this very studio.

  • I'm like List is celebrating because their fancy is just fantastic to watch him play football.

  • Now I think we've got a little about live report this season.

  • Incredible.

  • Well, two of the very, very best teams ever in Manchester City this year haven't lived up to Liverpool stand.

  • They've just gone away to Rome, Madrid and 1 to 1.

  • I think we should just celebrate real talent and real ability that we've got on the whole of famous another way to do it.

  • The thing that you both described there with regards to share and gigs obviously plays very much of these aisles.

  • But if you look at cell like this, that's the contribution perhaps of tear and really, how he managed to do it again did he has great significance because he's come from a different country.

  • I look up the elevated is the impact that Didier Drogba's had on our primal.

  • It is unbelievable.

  • But the work that he does know back in back in the Ivory Coast, back in Africa, how he's effective on we'd forget how many people all over the world watched the prime iti.

  • It's a global global phenomenon on these players from all around the world are inspiring Africans.

  • They're inspired people in the Middle East.

  • They're inspired people in the United States.

  • It's a world wet so worldwide brand on it.

  • It's a fantastic thing that we should we should.

  • It would enjoy it.

  • Really.

  • It's just off the back of a tweet that we've just seen that that when the name at Letizia gets thrown in as well because you were talking about because the parameters that labeled these players in his exceptional talent and skill, which undoubtedly absolute abundance but hasn't got the metal hole that Ryan Giggs is go on with the great suspect in a more unfashionable team compared to the United etcetera.

  • So magnificent player in magnificent player.

  • You look at it, I'm going over what Linda said.

  • You look at the impact of these players, so I'm looking at Carzola.

  • What impact did he have on John Terry's right defensively?

  • John Terry must be in there.

  • More titles.

  • You one with Josie.

  • But what impact did Franco have on Toronto?

  • Development was saying the same account in our, you know, with Alice, there was a lot of nights to credit, but they said that with his professionalism and seeing him through the extras and seeing him stretch, it just spread through the whole football club on.

  • I think sometimes those intangibles are missed of what plays bring to a country.

  • So you would see how Eric Cantor I was one of my feet with the Colorado somewhere under all about Starr laid down a foundation for a legacy after him, and I think that's what the very best do.

  • The great thing is, you can debate and quantify exactly how we would like to put these players in and different players have records and different strings.

  • The bow.

  • I mean, there's a lot of names there that again, the debate with regards to longevity your rankings and it is an end that would keep coming back to.

  • But Gareth Barry The sheer number of games in the early Christian Cristiano Ronaldo seemed to be compared to others a relatively short period of time in the primitive.

  • But my word that he burst onto it and take the bull by the horns eventually didn't he matured both as a player under under person?

  • Aguero top overseas goal scorer.

  • But we look at the gold scores that David again.

  • There's no mention of a Peter Schmeichel, for example.

  • I'm sure it had a huge impact on goalkeeper development coaching training in the years since.

  • So you know the 60 strikers air great to put in there.

  • But the impact off the likes of Michael John Terry Village, all these players will have a huge impact on the game when it's open to this type of debate is the moment where perhaps you could get a section of fans that want to be almost kind of the more cerebral element off.

  • I could understand that everyone really could understand gigs, but give Tony Adams give me way, Michael character.

  • I'd like to see that Michael Carrots, one of my favorite place of a generation crawl.

  • Makalele had a position named after him, and people said he only passed sideways.

  • But the guy's position and his understanding the game was on a whole different level didn't score many goals.

  • So there's so many players that give different things.

  • I just want make.

  • I love football because every position up, it's important.

  • I think the hardest thing to do is score goals.

  • But every single little positional thing that you see and what Claude Michel alien Michael Carrick did can't be discounted.

  • Even can you giving the positions that you two fellas around on the touchline and the stresses and the intense kind of scrutiny that comes under it.

  • Can you still look at football like this?

  • Obviously, it's a bit easier when you set away from here from the game, but can you sit in a coach's room and chat about it?

  • Absolutely.

  • Was that before or after the guy before you say that?

  • But I think if you don't enjoy doing that, remember, we shouldn't be in the game.

  • That's the whole point.

  • We spoke earlier about passion, emotion.

  • You're gonna love what you watch poor schools for May to watch Paul's court, Portholes was magnificent, and Javy in the Esther spoke about.

  • Paul's goals have been a joy to watch to the greatest president has ever seen a bus owner.

  • Talk about polls goes.

  • We don't see his name on the list, and it's that type of the depth of talent we have come for the primitive example.

  • I think it's love that love of the game makes you want to have a passion toe work as hard as what coaches, managers players do.

  • But the first to place we spoke about came with the pitch young as a on one Wayne Rooney.

  • What did I do?

  • How do they play?

  • Unbelievable.

  • To unbelievable footballers that you just enjoy whether you win or lose.

  • You enjoy watching you play football.

  • That's what keeps us coming.

  • Put such on.

  • Rooney is quite a CD player when it comes to as and when he may retire, it's got to be in the discussion for 100%.

  • They kind of all time kind of grace what you've seen so far from him in the championship.

  • How does he come across house even to work with It's not until you you sip up close and work with someone of his ilk that you understand why he's had the career he's had way use the player he is, he's got.

  • We just talk about passion and love for the game.

  • That's what drives him, is winning on Dworkin.

  • He's he's on the training pitch, last one off the train and picture at his age.

  • Now, with everything he's achieved, he's the first.

  • Then he wants to make sure that he gets his treatment.

  • He wants to make sure he gets everything right.

  • He wants to do quizzes on the coach on the way to game, see what you want to know everything about every player displayed the game.

  • He loves the game.

  • That's what makes him the player he is.

  • And for someone like me as a young coach, to see the way that he worked as a player isn't there's nothing better.

  • There's nothing better for a young place to learn from him.

  • Do you see that in the generation of players that we were seeing no zillion mentioned that Barry is and what he can do on a football pitch for q P R.

  • The end that really innate love and fascination with what makes the game so inherently lovable.

  • I think that may demonstrate it in a different way to you.

  • Do you and I if that's just a generational thing?

  • But the passion is definitely their desire to succeed is definitely there.

  • How they learn maybe is different but the same after we have to respect that and learn from it.

  • We can't say we're right.

  • One change they're not gonna change.

  • But their love for the game, the desire to push forward in tow maximize their potential is undoubtedly there.

  • So it starts with two inductees.

  • Marker would your too big I would go for sharing and on me we spoke about this exposition of comfort has I think you have money for me.

  • I agree with Wan T Erry I'm reading and as tough as a Manchester night found when they were great and he was part of that invincible team.

  • And for me, Ryan Giggs.

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