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  • OUT IN >>> I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR,

  • >>> I WAS SHOCKED TO HEAR, THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO, SAID HOW

  • THREE, FOUR WEEKS AGO, SAID HOW MANY PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM THE

  • MANY PEOPLE A YEAR DIE FROM THE FLU, IN THIS COUNTRY I THINK 36

  • FLU, IN THIS COUNTRY I THINK 36 OR 37,000 PEOPLE.

  • OR 37,000 PEOPLE. I’M SAYING WOW.

  • I’M SAYING WOW. NOBODY KNEW THAT INFORMATION.

  • NOBODY KNEW THAT INFORMATION. >> PRESIDENT TRUMP MET WITH TOP

  • >> PRESIDENT TRUMP MET WITH TOP PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY

  • PHARMACEUTICAL COMPANY REPRESENTATIVES AT THE WHITE

  • REPRESENTATIVES AT THE WHITE HOUSE YESTERDAY WHERE THEY KEPT

  • HOUSE YESTERDAY WHERE THEY KEPT EXPLAINING TO HIM WHY IT’S GOING

  • EXPLAINING TO HIM WHY IT’S GOING TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DEVELOP A

  • TO TAKE SOME TIME TO DEVELOP A VACCINE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS.

  • VACCINE FOR THE CORONAVIRUS. >> WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN

  • >> WHEN DO YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE THE VACCINE, HAVE IT, START

  • HAVE THE VACCINE, HAVE IT, START PROVIDING

  • PROVIDING PRODUCING IT NOW.

  • PRODUCING IT NOW. >> WERE PRODUCING IT NOW.

  • >> WERE PRODUCING IT NOW. PROTEINS TAKE LONGER THAN SOME

  • PROTEINS TAKE LONGER THAN SOME OF THE OTHER WAYS, IT IS A

  • OF THE OTHER WAYS, IT IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT WORKS.

  • TECHNOLOGY THAT WORKS. WE COULD BE READY FOR CLINIC IN

  • WE COULD BE READY FOR CLINIC IN A YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE

  • A YEAR, DEPENDING ON THE NATURE OF HOW THE EPIDEMIC GOES OR

  • OF HOW THE EPIDEMIC GOES OR DOESN’T GO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD,

  • DOESN’T GO, YOU KNOW, WE WOULD, AND WITH HELP OF THE AGENCIES OF

  • AND WITH HELP OF THE AGENCIES OF THIS COUNTRY, PERHAPS --

  • THIS COUNTRY, PERHAPS -- >> WE HAVE ANTIBODIES IN DISHES,

  • >> WE HAVE ANTIBODIES IN DISHES, WE ARE SCREENING THEM, SELECTING

  • WE ARE SCREENING THEM, SELECTING THEM.

  • THEM. ANTICIPATE IF ALL GOES WELL,

  • ANTICIPATE IF ALL GOES WELL, 200,000 DOSES PER MONTH CAN COME

  • 200,000 DOSES PER MONTH CAN COME OUT OF THE FACTORY IN NEW YORK

  • OUT OF THE FACTORY IN NEW YORK STARTING IN AUGUST.

  • STARTING IN AUGUST. UNIQUE THING ABOUT OUR

  • UNIQUE THING ABOUT OUR TECHNOLOGY.

  • TECHNOLOGY. >> YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE

  • >> YOU WOULD BE ABLE TO USE THE VACCINE THAT EARLY?

  • VACCINE THAT EARLY? >> DEPENDS WHAT WE SEE, HOW WE

  • >> DEPENDS WHAT WE SEE, HOW WE WORK CLOSELY WITH THE FDA, WHICH

  • WORK CLOSELY WITH THE FDA, WHICH WE WILL DO.

  • WE WILL DO. THE FDA ALREADY REACHED OUT TO

  • THE FDA ALREADY REACHED OUT TO US.

  • US. WE HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY --

  • WE HAVE TO WORK CLOSELY -- >> THE PROCESS WOULD BE FASTER?

  • >> THE PROCESS WOULD BE FASTER? >> WE ARE WORKING ON THE

  • >> WE ARE WORKING ON THE MATERIAL, AS SOON AS WE GET

  • MATERIAL, AS SOON AS WE GET PHASE ONE BILLS OUT OF NIH, WE

  • PHASE ONE BILLS OUT OF NIH, WE START PHASE TWO RIGHT AWAY.

  • START PHASE TWO RIGHT AWAY. >> WHAT IS THE TIMING?

  • >> WHAT IS THE TIMING? >> GET THE PHASE ONE START VERY

  • >> GET THE PHASE ONE START VERY SOON NOW, JUST WAITING FOR GREEN

  • SOON NOW, JUST WAITING FOR GREEN LIGHT.

  • LIGHT. THE PRODUCT IS AT THE NIH.

  • THE PRODUCT IS AT THE NIH. THEN IT WOULD BE A FEW MONTHS TO

  • THEN IT WOULD BE A FEW MONTHS TO GET HUMAN DATA THAT WILL ALLOW

  • GET HUMAN DATA THAT WILL ALLOW US TO START PHASE TWO.

  • US TO START PHASE TWO. >> IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, YOU

  • >> IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS, YOU THINK YOU CAN HAVE A VACCINE.

  • THINK YOU CAN HAVE A VACCINE. >> YOU WOULDN’T HAVE A VACCINE,

  • >> YOU WOULDN’T HAVE A VACCINE, A VACCINE TO GO TO TESTING.

  • A VACCINE TO GO TO TESTING. >> AND HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE?

  • >> AND HOW LONG WOULD THAT TAKE? >> A FEW MONTHS BEFORE WE GET TO

  • >> A FEW MONTHS BEFORE WE GET TO PHASE TWO.

  • PHASE TWO. >> TALKING WITHIN A YEAR.

  • >> TALKING WITHIN A YEAR. HE IS TALKING A FEW MONTHS.

  • HE IS TALKING A FEW MONTHS. >> WE WILL BE THERE IN JUNE.

  • >> WE WILL BE THERE IN JUNE. >> IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS.

  • >> IN A COUPLE OF MONTHS. I LIKE THE SOUND OF A COUPLE

  • I LIKE THE SOUND OF A COUPLE MONTHS.

  • MONTHS. WHEN YOU SAY JUNE, NOT A

  • WHEN YOU SAY JUNE, NOT A COMPLETED VACCINE.

  • COMPLETED VACCINE. >> A VACCINE READY FOR TESTING

  • >> A VACCINE READY FOR TESTING PHASE ONE.

  • PHASE ONE. >> READY TO USE WHEN?

  • >> READY TO USE WHEN? READY TO USE?

  • READY TO USE? NEXT SEASON?

  • NEXT SEASON? >> ASSUMING THE VACCINE IS

  • >> ASSUMING THE VACCINE IS TOLERATED, SAFE AND EFFICACIOUS,

  • TOLERATED, SAFE AND EFFICACIOUS, I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW WE

  • I THINK THE QUESTION IS HOW WE GET THE FDA TO EXPEDITE AS FAST

  • GET THE FDA TO EXPEDITE AS FAST AS POSSIBLE TO A FAST TRACK

  • AS POSSIBLE TO A FAST TRACK PROGRAM TO GET THROUGH PHASE TWO

  • PROGRAM TO GET THROUGH PHASE TWO AND TESTING.

  • AND TESTING. >> QUICKLY.

  • >> QUICKLY. THE SAME VACCINE COULD NOT WORK.

  • THE SAME VACCINE COULD NOT WORK. YOU TAKE A VOLUME I DID FLUSOLID

  • YOU TAKE A VOLUME I DID FLUSOLID WOULDN’T HAVE IMPACT ON CORONA?

  • WOULDN’T HAVE IMPACT ON CORONA? >> PROBABLY NO.

  • >> PROBABLY NO. >> WOW.

  • >> WOW. JOINING US, INFECTIOUS DISEASE

  • JOINING US, INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTOR, SENIOR SCHOLAR AT THE

  • DOCTOR, SENIOR SCHOLAR AT THE JOHNS HOPKINS CENTER FOR HEALTH

  • JOHNS HOPKINS CENTER FOR HEALTH SECURITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR

  • SECURITY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING ON THE SHOW.

  • COMING ON THE SHOW. SEEMS THE PRESIDENT WAS HAVING A

  • SEEMS THE PRESIDENT WAS HAVING A HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE

  • HARD TIME UNDERSTANDING THE TIMING OF WHEN A VACCINE MIGHT

  • TIMING OF WHEN A VACCINE MIGHT BECOME AVAILABLE, WHETHER OR NOT

  • BECOME AVAILABLE, WHETHER OR NOT THE FLU VACCINE COULD BE USED

  • THE FLU VACCINE COULD BE USED FOR IT, WHICH IT CAN’T.

  • FOR IT, WHICH IT CAN’T. WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR

  • WHAT ARE WE LOOKING AT FOR REALISTIC TIME LINE FOR VACCINE

  • REALISTIC TIME LINE FOR VACCINE AND HOW DOES THAT EFFECT THOSE

  • AND HOW DOES THAT EFFECT THOSE TODAY?

  • TODAY? >> THE VACCINE, THE DEVELOPMENT

  • >> THE VACCINE, THE DEVELOPMENT TIME IS MEASURED IN YEARS.

  • TIME IS MEASURED IN YEARS. IT IS NOT SOMETHING WELL SEE

  • IT IS NOT SOMETHING WELL SEE FOR 12 TO 18 MONTHS.

  • FOR 12 TO 18 MONTHS. WE ARE GOING AT RECORD SPEED,

  • WE ARE GOING AT RECORD SPEED, GETTING TO CLINICAL TRIALS,

  • GETTING TO CLINICAL TRIALS, THAT’S NOT GOING TO IMPACT

  • THAT’S NOT GOING TO IMPACT PEOPLE SICK NOW.

  • PEOPLE SICK NOW. IT IS IMPORTANT WORK TO DO, BUT

  • IT IS IMPORTANT WORK TO DO, BUT IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOME

  • IT IS NOT GOING TO BE SOME RESCUE DURING THE FIRST WAVE OF

  • RESCUE DURING THE FIRST WAVE OF OUTBREAK OF THE VIRUS.

  • OUTBREAK OF THE VIRUS. >> TALK ABOUT THE FIRST WAVE

  • >> TALK ABOUT THE FIRST WAVE WHICH THE VACCINE WILL HAVE NO

  • WHICH THE VACCINE WILL HAVE NO IMPACT ON, TALKING ABOUT A

  • IMPACT ON, TALKING ABOUT A VACCINE AVAILABLE IN 12 TO 18

  • VACCINE AVAILABLE IN 12 TO 18 MONTHS, NOT A FEW MONTHS, WHICH

  • MONTHS, NOT A FEW MONTHS, WHICH THE PRESIDENT KEPT THINKING

  • THE PRESIDENT KEPT THINKING THAT’S WHAT HE HEARD.

  • THAT’S WHAT HE HEARD. WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING IN TERMS

  • WHAT ARE WE EXPECTING IN TERMS OF NUMBERS RISING AS TESTING

  • OF NUMBERS RISING AS TESTING GETS OUT INTO LOCALITIES, AND

  • GETS OUT INTO LOCALITIES, AND I’LL DOUBLE UP AND SAY HOW LONG

  • I’LL DOUBLE UP AND SAY HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE TO GET TESTING

  • WILL IT TAKE TO GET TESTING ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY.

  • ACROSS THE ENTIRE COUNTRY. >> WERE GOING TO SEE CASE

  • >> WERE GOING TO SEE CASE COUNTS INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY

  • COUNTS INCREASE SUBSTANTIALLY ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AS

  • ALL OVER THE UNITED STATES AS MORE TEST KITS COME ONLINE, MORE

  • MORE TEST KITS COME ONLINE, MORE STATE DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO

  • STATE DEPARTMENTS ARE ABLE TO TEST.

  • TEST. WELL SEE MORE MILD CASES

  • WELL SEE MORE MILD CASES DIAGNOSED, WHICH IS GOOD.

  • DIAGNOSED, WHICH IS GOOD. WELL UNDERSTAND WHERE THE

  • WELL UNDERSTAND WHERE THE SPREAD OF VIRUS IS, UNDERSTAND

  • SPREAD OF VIRUS IS, UNDERSTAND WHAT COMMUNITY SPREAD MEANS AND

  • WHAT COMMUNITY SPREAD MEANS AND GET COMMUNITIES READY WHEN THEY

  • GET COMMUNITIES READY WHEN THEY SEE CASES ARE POPPING UP ALL

  • SEE CASES ARE POPPING UP ALL OVER.

  • OVER. I THINK IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME

  • I THINK IT WILL TAKE SOME TIME FOR COMPLETE TESTING AT ALL

  • FOR COMPLETE TESTING AT ALL HOSPITALS, COMMERCIAL

  • HOSPITALS, COMMERCIAL LABORATORIES.

  • LABORATORIES. MONTHS TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO

  • MONTHS TO GET WHERE WE NEED TO WITH TESTING.

  • WITH TESTING. WE NEED TO TEST LIKE WE DO FOR

  • WE NEED TO TEST LIKE WE DO FOR INFLUENZA, NEED IT IN THE HANDS

  • INFLUENZA, NEED IT IN THE HANDS OF CLINICIANS, BE ABLE TO TELL

  • OF CLINICIANS, BE ABLE TO TELL PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAVE THIS.

  • PEOPLE WHEN THEY HAVE THIS. WE WILL FIND MORE MILD CASES

  • WE WILL FIND MORE MILD CASES THAT BRING DOWN THE RATIO.

  • THAT BRING DOWN THE RATIO. >> WILLIE GEIST, APPRECIATE YOU

  • >> WILLIE GEIST, APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING EXPERTISE TO THE

  • BRINGING EXPERTISE TO THE CONVERSATION.

  • CONVERSATION. I WANT TO PUT TO YOU A QUESTION

  • I WANT TO PUT TO YOU A QUESTION WE ASKED DR. CAMPBELL LAST HOUR,

  • WE ASKED DR. CAMPBELL LAST HOUR, HOW YOURE LOOKING AT THIS.

  • HOW YOURE LOOKING AT THIS. THERE’S SOME PANIC SETTING IN

  • THERE’S SOME PANIC SETTING IN AMONG SOME PEOPLE, RUNS ON WATER

  • AMONG SOME PEOPLE, RUNS ON WATER AND FOOD AT GROCERY STORES.

  • AND FOOD AT GROCERY STORES. YOUR CLEAR EYED VIEW HOW

  • YOUR CLEAR EYED VIEW HOW AMERICANS SHOULD LOOK AT

  • AMERICANS SHOULD LOOK AT CORONAVIRUS TODAY.