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  • OF THE POINTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE.

  • HAVE MADE. FIRST IS THE ARGUMENT THAT

  • FIRST IS THE ARGUMENT THAT YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, AND I HAVE

  • YOU'VE HEARD BEFORE, AND I HAVE NO DOUBT YOU'LL HEAR AGAIN, THAT

  • NO DOUBT YOU'LL HEAR AGAIN, THAT THE SUBPOENAS ISSUED BY THE

  • THE SUBPOENAS ISSUED BY THE HOUSE ARE INVALID.

  • HOUSE ARE INVALID. WELL, THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL.

  • WELL, THAT'S REALLY WONDERFUL. I IMAGINE WHEN YOU ISSUE

  • I IMAGINE WHEN YOU ISSUE SUBPOENAS, THEY WILL DECLARE

  • SUBPOENAS, THEY WILL DECLARE YOURS INVALID AS WELL.

  • YOURS INVALID AS WELL. WHAT'S THE BASIS OF THE CLAIM

  • WHAT'S THE BASIS OF THE CLAIM THEY'RE INVALID?

  • THEY'RE INVALID? WELL, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T

  • WELL, BECAUSE THEY WEREN'T ISSUED THE WAY THE PRESIDENT

  • ISSUED THE WAY THE PRESIDENT WANTS.

  • WANTS. PART OF THE ARGUMENT IS YOU HAVE

  • PART OF THE ARGUMENT IS YOU HAVE TO ISSUE A SUBPOENA THE WAY WE

  • TO ISSUE A SUBPOENA THE WAY WE SAY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE

  • SAY, AND THAT CAN ONLY BE DONE AFTER THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT

  • AFTER THERE IS A RESOLUTION THAT WE APPROVE OF ADOPTED BY THE

  • WE APPROVE OF ADOPTED BY THE FULL HOUSE.

  • FULL HOUSE. FIRST THEY COMPLAIN THERE IS NO

  • FIRST THEY COMPLAIN THERE IS NO RESOLUTION, NO FORMAL RESOLUTION

  • RESOLUTION, NO FORMAL RESOLUTION OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, AND

  • OF THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, AND THEN WHEN WE PASSED A FORMAL

  • THEN WHEN WE PASSED A FORMAL RESOLUTION, THEY COMPLAINED

  • RESOLUTION, THEY COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT.

  • ABOUT THAT. THEY COMPLAINED WHEN WE DIDN'T

  • THEY COMPLAINED WHEN WE DIDN'T HAVE ONE.

  • HAVE ONE. THEY COMPLAINED WHEN WE DID HAVE

  • THEY COMPLAINED WHEN WE DID HAVE ONE.

  • ONE. WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE THAT

  • WELL, YOU KNOW, THEY MADE THAT ARGUMENT ALREADY IN COURT AND

  • ARGUMENT ALREADY IN COURT AND THEY LOST.

  • THEY LOST. IN THE McGAHN CASE, THEY

  • IN THE McGAHN CASE, THEY SIMILARLY ARGUED THIS SUBPOENA

  • SIMILARLY ARGUED THIS SUBPOENA FOR MR. McGAHN IS INVALID, AND

  • FOR MR. McGAHN IS INVALID, AND YOU KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE SAID?

  • YOU KNOW WHAT THE JUDGE SAID? ESSENTIALLY THAT'S NONSENSE.

  • ESSENTIALLY THAT'S NONSENSE. THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T GEPHARDT

  • THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T GEPHARDT TO DECIDE HOW THE HOUSE CONDUCTS

  • TO DECIDE HOW THE HOUSE CONDUCTS AN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS.

  • AN IMPEACHMENT PROCEEDINGS. THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T GET TO

  • THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T GET TO DECIDE WHETHER A SUBPOENA IT

  • DECIDE WHETHER A SUBPOENA IT ISSUES IS VALID OR INVALID.

  • ISSUES IS VALID OR INVALID. NO.

  • NO. THE HOUSE GETS TO DECIDE,

  • THE HOUSE GETS TO DECIDE, BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS GIVEN THE

  • BECAUSE THE HOUSE IS GIVEN THE SOLE POWER OF IMPEACHMENT, NOT

  • SOLE POWER OF IMPEACHMENT, NOT THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

  • THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

  • STATES. NOW COUNSEL SAYS WHY ARE WE

  • NOW COUNSEL SAYS WHY ARE WE GOING THROUGH ALL THESE

  • GOING THROUGH ALL THESE DOCUMENTS?

  • DOCUMENTS? AREN'T ALL THESE MOTIONS THE

  • AREN'T ALL THESE MOTIONS THE SAME?

  • SAME? AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS

  • AND THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME

  • WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THE SAME DOCUMENTS HERE.

  • DOCUMENTS HERE. THEY WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER

  • THEY WOULD LIKE NOTHING BETTER THAN FOR YOU TO KNOW NOTHING

  • THAN FOR YOU TO KNOW NOTHING ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS WE SEEK.

  • ABOUT THE DOCUMENTS WE SEEK. THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT

  • THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT DEFENSE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS

  • DEFENSE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS THEY'RE WITHHOLDING.

  • THEY'RE WITHHOLDING. OF COURSE THEY DON'T WANT TO

  • OF COURSE THEY DON'T WANT TO HEAR THAT.

  • HEAR THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW, WANT

  • THEY DON'T WANT TO KNOW, WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT STATE

  • YOU TO KNOW WHAT STATE DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS ARE,

  • DEPARTMENT DOCUMENTS ARE, BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST ABSTRACT,

  • BECAUSE IF IT'S JUST ABSTRACT, IF IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE ARGUING

  • IF IT'S JUST WHEN YOU'RE ARGUING FOR DOCUMENTS, WELL, THEY CAN

  • FOR DOCUMENTS, WELL, THEY CAN SAY WELL, THAT'S REALLY NOT THAT

  • SAY WELL, THAT'S REALLY NOT THAT IMPORTANT, RIGHT?

  • IMPORTANT, RIGHT? IT'S JUST SOME GENERIC THING.

  • IT'S JUST SOME GENERIC THING. BUT WHEN YOU REALIZE YOU LEARN

  • BUT WHEN YOU REALIZE YOU LEARN TODAY AND TONIGHT WHAT THOSE

  • TODAY AND TONIGHT WHAT THOSE DOCUMENTS ARE, WHEN YOU SEE THE

  • DOCUMENTS ARE, WHEN YOU SEE THE EFFORTS TO CONCEAL THOSE FREEDOM

  • EFFORTS TO CONCEAL THOSE FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT EMAILS MY

  • OF INFORMATION ACT EMAILS MY COLLEAGUE MR. CROW REFERRED TO

  • COLLEAGUE MR. CROW REFERRED TO AND YOU SEE IT RELEASED TO THE

  • AND YOU SEE IT RELEASED TO THE PUBLIC AND IT'S ALL REDACTED AND

  • PUBLIC AND IT'S ALL REDACTED AND WE FIND OUT WHAT'S UNDER THOSE

  • WE FIND OUT WHAT'S UNDER THOSE REDACTIONS, AND WOW, SURPRISE.

  • REDACTIONS, AND WOW, SURPRISE. IT'S INCRIMINATING INFORMATION

  • IT'S INCRIMINATING INFORMATION THEY HAVE REDACTED OUT.

  • THEY HAVE REDACTED OUT. THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE

  • THAT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE THE BASIS FOR REDACTION UNDER

  • BASIS FOR REDACTION UNDER FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT.

  • FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT. THAT'S WHAT WE CALL A COVER-UP.

  • THAT'S WHAT WE CALL A COVER-UP. THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE THAT

  • THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE THAT TODAY.

  • TODAY. THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE THE

  • THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO SEE THE BEFORE AND THE AFTER, THE

  • BEFORE AND THE AFTER, THE REDACTED AND THE NONREDACTED.

  • REDACTED AND THE NONREDACTED. THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO HEAR

  • THEY DIDN'T WANT YOU TO HEAR FROM THESE WITNESSES ABOUT THE

  • FROM THESE WITNESSES ABOUT THE DETAILED PERSONAL NOTES THAT

  • DETAILED PERSONAL NOTES THAT THEY TOOK.

  • THEY TOOK. AMBASSADOR TAYLOR TOOK DETAILED

  • AMBASSADOR TAYLOR TOOK DETAILED PERSONAL NOTES.

  • PERSONAL NOTES. NOW THEY WANT TO TRY TO CONTEST

  • NOW THEY WANT TO TRY TO CONTEST WHAT AMBASSADOR SONDLAND SAID

  • WHAT AMBASSADOR SONDLAND SAID ABOUT HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE

  • ABOUT HIS CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PRESIDENT.

  • PRESIDENT. BECAUSE SONDLAND, AFTER HE

  • BECAUSE SONDLAND, AFTER HE TALKED WITH THE PRESIDENT,

  • TALKED WITH THE PRESIDENT, TALKED DIRECTLY WITH AMBASSADOR

  • TALKED DIRECTLY WITH AMBASSADOR TAYLOR AND TALKED DIRECTLY WITH

  • TAYLOR AND TALKED DIRECTLY WITH MR. MORRISON, AND EXPLAINED THAT

  • MR. MORRISON, AND EXPLAINED THAT HIS CONVERSATION WITH THE

  • HIS CONVERSATION WITH THE PRESIDENT.

  • PRESIDENT. WELL, GUESS WHAT?

  • WELL, GUESS WHAT? MR. MORRISON AND AMBASSADOR

  • MR. MORRISON AND AMBASSADOR TAYLOR TOOK DETAILED NOTES.

  • TAYLOR TOOK DETAILED NOTES. THERE IS A DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT

  • THERE IS A DISPUTE ABOUT WHAT THE PRESIDENT TOLD MR. SONDLAND.

  • THE PRESIDENT TOLD MR. SONDLAND. WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO SEE THE

  • WOULDN'T YOU LIKE TO SEE THE NOTE?

  • NOTE? THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE

  • THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW THE NOTES EXIST.

  • NOTES EXIST. THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS

  • THEY DON'T WANT TO HAVE THIS DEBATE.

  • DEBATE. THEY'D RATHER JUST ARGUE IT'S

  • THEY'D RATHER JUST ARGUE IT'S JUST ABOUT DOCUMENTS.

  • JUST ABOUT DOCUMENTS. IT'S JUST ABOUT WHEN.

  • IT'S JUST ABOUT WHEN. WE WANT THE SENATORS TO ASK

  • WE WANT THE SENATORS TO ASK THEIR 16 HOURS OF QUESTION

  • THEIR 16 HOURS OF QUESTION BEFORE THEY CAN SEE ANY OF THIS

  • BEFORE THEY CAN SEE ANY OF THIS STUFF.

  • STUFF. AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT?

  • AND THEN YOU KNOW WHAT? WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO DISMISS

  • WE'RE GOING TO MOVE TO DISMISS THE CASE.

  • THE CASE. THE WHEN, AS I SAID EARLIER,

  • THE WHEN, AS I SAID EARLIER, MEANS NEVER.

  • MEANS NEVER. AND FINALLY, THE CLINTON

  • AND FINALLY, THE CLINTON PRECEDENT.

  • PRECEDENT. CLINTON TURNED OVER 90,000 PAGES

  • CLINTON TURNED OVER 90,000 PAGES OF DOCUMENT BEFORE THE TRIAL.

  • OF DOCUMENT BEFORE THE TRIAL. I AGREE.

  • I AGREE. LET'S FOLLOW THE CLINTON

  • LET'S FOLLOW THE CLINTON PRECEDENT.

  • PRECEDENT. IT'S NOT EVEN GOING TO TAKE

  • IT'S NOT EVEN GOING TO TAKE 90,000 DOCUMENTS.

  • 90,000 DOCUMENTS. THE DOCUMENTS ARE ALREADY

  • THE DOCUMENTS ARE ALREADY COLLECTED.

  • COLLECTED. YOU'VE HEARD THE TESTIMONY ON

  • YOU'VE HEARD THE TESTIMONY ON THE SCREEN OF AMBASSADOR TAYLOR

  • THE SCREEN OF AMBASSADOR TAYLOR SAYING OH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE

  • SAYING OH, THEY'RE GOING TO BE TURNED OVER SHORTLY.

  • TURNED OVER SHORTLY. WELL, WE'RE STILL WAITING, BUT

  • WELL, WE'RE STILL WAITING, BUT THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE AT

  • THEY'RE STILL SITTING THERE AT THE STATE DEPARTMENT.

  • THE STATE DEPARTMENT. WE CAN PLAY A VIDEO FOR YOU OF

  • WE CAN PLAY A VIDEO FOR YOU OF SECRETARY ESPER ON ONE OF THE

  • SECRETARY ESPER ON ONE OF THE SUNDAY SHOWS SAYING WE'RE GOING

  • SUNDAY SHOWS SAYING WE'RE GOING COMPLY WITH THESE SUBPOENAS.

  • COMPLY WITH THESE SUBPOENAS. WELL, THAT WAS ONE WEEK.

  • WELL, THAT WAS ONE WEEK. AND THEN SOMEBODY GOT TO HIM,

  • AND THEN SOMEBODY GOT TO HIM, AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN HE WAS

  • AND ALL OF THE SUDDEN HE WAS SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE.

  • SINGING A DIFFERENT TUNE. YEAH, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO

  • YEAH, THEY DON'T WANT YOU TO KNOW WHAT THESE DOCUMENTS HOLD.

  • KNOW WHAT THESE DOCUMENTS HOLD. AND YES, WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT

  • AND YES, WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT THESE WITNESSES CAN TELL YOU.

  • THESE WITNESSES CAN TELL YOU. WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT MICK

  • WE'RE SHOWING YOU WHAT MICK MULVANEY COULD TELL YOU.

  • MULVANEY COULD TELL YOU. AND YEAH, WE'RE MAKING IT HARD

  • AND YEAH, WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR YOU.

  • FOR YOU. WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR YOU TO

  • WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR YOU TO SAY NO.

  • SAY NO. WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR YOU TO

  • WE'RE MAKING IT HARD FOR YOU TO SAY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM

  • SAY I DON'T WANT TO HEAR FROM THESE PEOPLE, I DON'T WANT TO

  • THESE PEOPLE, I DON'T WANT TO SEE THESE DOCUMENTS.

  • SEE THESE DOCUMENTS. WE'RE MAKING IT HARD.

  • WE'RE MAKING IT HARD. IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO MAKE IT EASY

  • IT'S NOT OUR JOB TO MAKE IT EASY FOR YOU.

  • FOR YOU. OUR JOB TO MAKE IT HARD, TO

  • OUR JOB TO MAKE IT HARD, TO DEPRIVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE OF A

OF THE POINTS THAT MY COLLEAGUES HAVE MADE.

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