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  • >> Announcer: THIS IS AN ABC

  • NEWS SPECIAL REPORT.

  • >> MULTIPLE SYSTEMATIC EFFORTS

  • TO INTERFERE IN OUR ELECTION.

  • AND THAT ALLEGATION D NOT CONSP

  • ANYBODY FROM RUSSIA TO AFFECT

  • THE ELECTION, AND THEY SEE THE

  • BIG JUSTICE DEPARTMENT WITH

  • PEOPLE THAT HATE THAT PERSON

  • COMING AFTER THEM, AND THEN A

  • SPECIAL COUNSEL APPOINTED WHO

  • HIRES A DOZEN OR MORE PEOPLE

  • THAT HATE THAT PERSON, AND HE

  • KNOWS HE'S INNOCENT.

  • HE'S NOT CORRUPTLY ACTING IN

  • ORDER TO SEE THAT JUSTICE IS

  • DONE.

  • WHAT HE'S DOING IS NOT

  • OBSTRUCTING JUSTICE.

  • HE'S PURSUING JUSTICE AND THE

  • FACT THAT YOU RAN IT OUT TWO

  • YEARS MEANS PERPETUATED

  • INJUSTICE.

  • >> I TAKE YOUR QUESTION.

  • >> THE TIME HAS EXPIRED.

  • THE WITNESS MAY ANSWER THE

  • QUESTION.

  • >> I TAKE YOUR QUESTION.

  • >> THE GENTLEMAN FROM FLORIDA.

  • >> DIRECTOR MUELLER, I WOULD

  • LIKE TO GET BACK TO YOUR

  • FINDINGS COVERING JUNE OF 2017.

  • THERE WAS A BOMBSHELL ARTICLE

  • THAT REPORTED THAT THE PRESIDENT

  • OF THE UNITED STATES WAS

  • PERSONALLY UNDER INVESTIGATION

  • FOR OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

  • THEN YOU SAID IN YOUR REPORT ON

  • PAGE 90 OF VOLUME T2, AND I

  • QUOTE, NEWS OF THE OBSTRUCTION

  • INVESTIGATION PROMPTED HIM TO

  • CALL McGAHN AND ASK FOR YOU TO

  • BE REMOVED.

  • REGARDING THE SECOND CALL, YOU

  • WROTE, AND I QUOTE, McGAHN

  • RECALLED THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS

  • MORE DIRECT, SAYING SOMETHING

  • LIKE, CALL ROD.

  • TELL ROD THAT MUELLER HAS

  • CONFLICTS, AND CAN'T BE THE

  • SPECIAL COUNSEL.

  • McGAHN RECALLED THE PRESIDENT

  • TELLING HIM, MUELLER HAS TO GO,

  • AND CALL ME BACK WHEN YOU DO IT.

  • DIRECTOR MUELLER, DID McGAHN

  • UNDERSTAND WHAT THE PRESIDENT

  • WAS ORDERING HIM TO DO?

  • >> I DIRECT YOU TO WHAT WE HAVE

  • WRITTEN IN THE REPORT IN TERMS

  • OF CHARACTERIZING HIS FEELINGS.

  • >> IN THE REPORT, IT SAYS,

  • QUOTE, McGAHN UNDERSTOOD THE

  • PRESIDENT TO BE SAYING THE

  • SPECIAL COUNSEL HAD TO BE

  • REMOVED.

  • YOU ALSO SAID ON PAGE 86 THAT

  • QUOTE, McGAHN CONSIDERED HIS

  • REQUEST TO BE AN INFLECTION

  • POINT, AND HE WANTED TO HIT THE

  • BRAKES AND HE FELT TRAPPED AND

  • McGAHN DECIDED HE HAD TO RESIGN.

  • HE TOOK ACTION TO PREPARE TO

  • RESIGN.

  • ISN'T THAT CORRECT?

  • >> I WOULD DIRECT YOU AGAIN TO

  • THE REPORT.

  • >> AND, IN FACT, THAT VERY DAY,

  • HE WENT TO THE WHITE HOUSE AND

  • QUOTING YOUR REPORT, YOU SAID,

  • QUOTE, HE THEN DROVE TO THE

  • OFFICE TO PACK HIS BELONGINGS

  • AND SUBMIT HIS RESIGNATION

  • LETTER.

  • CLOSED QUOTE.

  • >> THAT IS DIRECTLY FROM THE

  • REPORT.

  • >> IT IS.

  • AND BEFORE HE RESIGNED, HOWEVER,

  • HE CALLED THE PRESIDENT'S CHIEF

  • OF STAFF, REINCE PRIEBUS AND HE

  • CALLED THE PRESIDENT'S SENIOR

  • ADVISER, STEVE BANNON.

  • DO YOU RECALL WHAT HE TOLD THEM?

  • >> WHATEVER WAS SAID WILL APPEAR

  • IN THE REPORT.

  • >> IT IS.

  • IT IS.

  • IT SAYS ON PAGE 87, QUOTE,

  • PRIEBUS RECALLED THAT McGAHN

  • SAID THAT THE PRESIDENT ASKED

  • HIM TO DO CRAZY EXPLETIVE.

  • IN OTHER WORDS, CRAZY STUFF.

  • THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL THOUGHT

  • THAT THE PRESIDENT'S REQUEST WAS

  • COMPLETELY OUT OF BOUNDS.

  • HE SAID THE PRESIDENT ASKED HIM

  • TO DO SOMETHING CRAZY.

  • IT WAS WRONG, AND HE WAS

  • PREPARED TO RESIGN OVER IT.

  • NOW THESE ARE EXTRAORDINARILY

  • TROUBLING EVENTS, BUT YOU FOUND

  • WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL McGAHN TO BE

  • A CREDIBLE WITNESS, ISN'T THAT

  • CORRECT?

  • >> CORRECT.

  • >> DIRECTOR MUELLER, THE MOST

  • IMPORTANT QUESTION I HAVE FOR

  • YOU TODAY IS WHY?

  • DIRECTOR MUELLER, WHY DID THE

  • PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

  • WANT YOU FIRED?

  • >> I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION.

  • >> WELL, ON PAGE 89 IN YOUR

  • REPORT IN VOLUME 2 YOU SAID, AND

  • I QUOTE, SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE

  • INDICATES THAT THE PRESIDENT'S

  • EVIDENCE -- THAT THE PRESIDENT'S

  • ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE THE SPECIAL

  • COUNSEL WERE LINKED TO THE

  • SPECIAL COUNSEL'S OVERSIGHT OF

  • INVESTIGATIONS THAT INVOLVE THE

  • PRESIDENT'S CONDUCT AND MOST

  • IMMEDIATELY, TO REPORTS THAT THE

  • PRESIDENT WAS BEING INVESTIGATED

  • FOR POTENTIAL OBSTRUCTION OF

  • JUSTICE.

  • CLOSED QUOTE.

  • DIRECTOR MUELLER, YOU FOUND

  • EVIDENCE AS YOU LAY OUT IN YOUR

  • REPORT THAT THE PRESIDENT WANTED

  • TO FIRE YOU BECAUSE YOU WERE

  • INVESTIGATING HIM FOR

  • OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE.

  • ISN'T THAT CORRECT?

  • >> THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS IN THE

  • REPO

  • REPORT.

  • YES.

  • I STAND BY THE REPORT.

  • >> DIRECTOR MUELLER, THAT

  • SHOULDN'T HAPPEN IN AMERICA.

  • NO PRESIDENT SHOULD BE ABLE TO

  • ESCAPE INVESTIGATION BY ABUSING

  • HIS POWER, BUT THAT'S WHAT YOU

  • TESTIFIED TO IN YOUR REPORT.

  • THE PRESIDENT ORDERED YOU FIRED.

  • THE WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL KNEW IT

  • WAS WRONG.

  • THE PRESIDENT KNEW IT WAS WRONG,

  • AND IN YOUR REPORT IT SAYS, THE

  • PRESIDENT KNEW HE SHOULD NOT

  • HAVE MADE THOSE CALLS TO McGAHN,

  • BUT THE PRESIDENT DID IT ANYWAY.

  • HE DID IT ANYWAY.

  • ANYONE ELSE WHO BLATANTLY

  • INTERFERED WITH A CRIMINAL

  • INVESTIGATION LIKE YOURS WOULD

  • BE ARRESTED AND INDICTED ON

  • CHARGES OF OBSTRUCTION OF

  • JUSTICE.

  • DIRECTOR MUELLER, YOU DETERMINED

  • THAT YOU WERE BARRED FROM

  • INDICTING THE SITTING PRESIDENT.

  • WE HAVE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT

  • THAT TODAY.

  • THAT IS EXACTLY WHY THIS

  • COMMITTEE MUST HOLD THE

  • PRESIDENT ACCOUNTABLE.

  • I YIELD BACK.

  • >> THE GENTLEMAN YIELDS BACK.

  • THE GENTLELADY FROM ALABAMA.

  • >> DIRECTOR MUELLER, YOU JUST