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  • BELIEVE IT OR NOT, THEY ARE

  • STILL PUSHING THE MUELLER

  • REPORT.

  • GET TO THAT SHORTLY.

  • BUT FIRST, REPUBLICANS FIRED UP

  • ABOUT THE FACT THAT MOST OF THE

  • EARLY WITNESSES LACK FIRST-HAND

  • KNOWLEDGE, LEAVING SEVERAL OF

  • THEM TO LIE ON ASSUMPTION,

  • PRESUMPTION, AND SPECULATION.

  • >> MY ASSUMPTION IS HE DID IT IN

  • A CLOSED-DOOR SPECULATION.

  • IT WAS A PRESUMPTION.

  • SO PRESSURE WAS BROUGHT TO BEAR

  • ON THEM, CORRECT?

  • >> I BELIEVE SO.

  • >> THEY ARE A NUMBER OF EVENTS

  • YOU ARE INVESTIGATING THAT I

  • CANNOT BRING FIRST-HAND

  • KNOWLEDGE.

  • THESE INCLUDE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

  • JULY 25TH 20 TIGHTENING

  • 202019 CALL WITHPRESIDENT ZELENS

  • 202019 CALL WITHPRESIDENT ZELENY

  • 202019 CALL WITHPRESIDENT ZELEN.

  • >> MY FIRST DAD WROTE A NEW

  • OP-ED SAYING "ALLEGED BAD

  • THOUGHTS" ARE NOT CRIMES,

  • OUTSIDE OF GEORGE ORWELL'S

  • DYSTOPIAN NOVEL "1984."

  • IT'S VICTOR DAVID HANSON, JOINS

  • ME NOW.

  • GOOD TO SEE YOU.

  • >> GOOD TO SEE YOU, ED.

  • >> Ed: YOU MAKE THE CASE THAT

  • DEMOCRATS HAVE TO COME UP WITH

  • SOMETHING BETTER THAN "A THOUGHT

  • CRIME."

  • WHAT DO YOU MEAN ABOUT THAT?

  • >> IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW, AT

  • LEAST IT WASN'T UNDER THE

  • U.S. CONSTITUTION TO THINK

  • SOMETHING.

  • IF I WANT TO THINK ABOUT

  • SPEEDING AT 80 MILES PER HOUR

  • AND I TALK ABOUT THINKING ABOUT

  • IT BUT I ACTUALLY DON'T, I'M NOT

  • GUILTY OF ANYTHING OTHER THAN

  • HARBORING A BAD THOUGHTS.

  • TRUMP MAY OR MAY NOT, WE DON'T

  • REALLY KNOW, THERE IS EVIDENCE

  • SUGGESTING HE DIDN'T COME OUT

  • DELAYING AID AND EIGHT WAS

  • DELAYED, BUT IT WASN'T CAUGHT

  • OFF.

  • THAT'S NOT A CRIME.

  • THERE WAS A

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANY

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANO

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANY

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANI

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANN

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANU

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANR

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANI

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF ANE

  • HE DIDN'T FORCE THEBUYERS OF AN,

  • DIDN'T INTERFERE IN THE SANDS

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DID

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DI'

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DIT

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DIR

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DIA

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DIL

  • HE DIDN'T DOANYTHING LIKE IT DIY

  • COLLUDE WITH THE RUSSIANS.

  • >> Ed: ON THE FIRST POINT,

  • WHETHER THERE IS A THOUGHT OR

  • NOT, WHEN YOU HAVE OMB BEING

  • COUNTERS, THEY WERE GOING AROUND

  • DEBATING BEYOND EMAILS OUT OF

  • THE TESTIMONY, SAYING IS THIS

  • LEGAL TO HOLD IT UP, IT WASN'T

  • JUST A THOUGHT.

  • IT MAY HAVE ONLY BEEN DAYS ARE A

  • COUPLE OF WEEKS, BUT THE AIDE

  • WAS HELD UP.

  • >> IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW TO

  • HOLD UP AID.

  • EVERY ADMINISTRATION HAS THE

  • RIGHT TO EXAMINE, CROSS-EXAMINE,

  • DOUBLETHINK ABOUT THE AID FOR A

  • COUPLE OF REASONS.

  • MAYBE THEY THOUGHT IT WAS

  • CORRUPT.

  • THEY SAID UKRAINE COULD BE

  • TRUSTED UNTIL THEY HAD

  • VERIFICATION THE NEW PRESIDENT

  • WAS RELIABLE.

  • MAYBE THEY THOUGHT DONALD TRUMP

  • WAS TOO SENSITIVE ABOUT GETTING

  • AID TO ANYBODY.

  • THESE ARE SIGNIFICANT REASONS TO

  • DELAY OR INTERRUPT, BUT THE

  • BOTTOM LINE IS HE DIDN'T CUT IT

  • IN THE END.

  • IF YOU'RE GOING TO CONVICT

  • PEOPLE OF THOUGHT CRIMES WERE

  • CONSIDERING CUTTING, WHAT WOULD

  • YOU DO IF YOU SAID, WELL,

  • BARACK OBAMA NEVER GAVE THEM

  • LEGAL AID AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

  • DIED BECAUSE OF THAT?

  • BUT WE AREN'T IMPEACHING

  • BARACK OBAMA FOR THAT.

  • THAT'S HIS PREROGATIVE AS A

  • PRESIDENT TO SAY I'M NOT GOING

  • TO GIVE ANY LEGAL AID TO THE

  • UKRAINIANS.

  • I DON'T CARE ABOUT GIVING THEM

  • LETHAL AID.

  • REPUBLICANS IT AND SAY WE ARE

  • IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT, DIDN'T

  • GIVE HIM LETHAL AID.

  • >> Ed: TO YOUR POINT WHAT

  • ABOUT THE FACT THAT JERRY NADLER

  • WHO IS GOING TO TAKE OVER FOR

  • ADAM SCHIFF BECAUSE IT'S GOT

  • OVER TO THE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

  • SAYS IN HIS LETTER TO THE

  • PRESIDENT, BY THE WAY, WE ARE

  • STILL LOOKING AT ALLEGED

  • OBSTRUCTION IN THE MUELLER

  • REPORT AND THAT COULD BE AN

  • ARTICLE OF IMPEACHMENT?

  • I THOUGHT WE ALREADY DEALT WITH

  • THAT.

  • >> WE DID.

  • THE ONLY FOUND THERE WAS NO

  • COLLUSION, ROBERT MUELLER SAID

  • THAT THERE WAS NO ACTIONABLE

  • EVIDENCE THAT WOULD LEAD TO AN

  • INDICTMENT FOR THE PRESIDENT AND

  • WHEN HE WAS QUERIED ON THAT,

  • THAT WAS NOT BECAUSE HE WAS THE

  • PRESIDENT.

  • IF HE HAD BEEN ANYBODY ELSE, HE

  • WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN INDICTED

  • BECAUSE THERE WASN'T THE

  • EVIDENCE.

  • WHAT IS THE SUBTEXT OF ALL OF

  • THIS?

  • THERE IS NO NEW WITNESS IS FOR

  • THERE IS NO DOCUMENTARIAN

  • EVIDENCE.

  • THERE IS NO SPECIAL COUNSEL.

  • THERE IS NO LEON JAWORSKI,

  • THERE'S NO KEN STARR REPORT.

  • UNLESS THEY CAN BRING IN A

  • MARQUEE WITNESS LIKE JOHN BOLTON

  • WHO HAS NEW INFORMATION OF

  • DIRECT TESTIMONY IN CONVERSATION

  • WITH THE PRESIDENT, THERE IS

  • NOTHING.

  • THEY KNOW IT.

  • THERE IS AN IRONY HERE, BECAUSE

  • WE WERE TOLD THAT NOTHING HAD

  • BEEN HARMED OR IMPERILED THE

  • AMERICAN ELECTORAL PROCESS LIKE

  • COLLUSION WITH THE RUSSIANS, AND

  • BARACK OBAMA AS HE WAS EXITING

  • OFFICE SAID TO DONALD TRUMP,

  • QUIT WHINING ABOUT THE ELECTION

  • ELECTIONS.

  • THAT COMPLAINT IMPERILS THE

  • AMERICAN CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS.

  • WHAT HAVE WE HEARD SINCE THEN?

  • WE'VE HAD HILLARY CLINTON

  • QUESTION THE INTEGRITY,

  • NANCY PELOSI GOT A FUND-RAISER

  • QUESTIONING THE