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  • >> Jimmy: THANK YOU FOR COMING.

  • >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

  • >> Jimmy: I SAW JOKER LAST NIGHT

  • AND I'M NOW SCARE OF YOU.

  • I HAVE TO SAY.

  • IT REALLY WAS AN AMAZING,

  • INCREDIBLE PERFORMANCE.

  • ARE YOU PROUD OF IT?

  • ARE YOU AWARE OF HOW GOOD IT IS?

  • >> UM.

  • >> Jimmy: THAT'S A TOUGH

  • QUESTION, RIGHT?

  • >> THAT IS A TOUGH QUESTION.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU LOOK LIKE A JERK

  • IF YOU SAY YES, BUT YOU'RE LYING

  • IF YOU SAY NO.

  • >> A LOT OF PEOPLE DON'T GET IT.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU WERE GREAT.

  • I'LL JUST SAY THAT.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • >> Jimmy: YOU LOOK NOW VERY

  • MUSCULAR.

  • YOU WERE SO SKINNY IN THE MOVIE,

  • AND REALLY LOOKED SICKLY.

  • DID YOU, HOW MUCH WEIGHT DID YOU

  • LOSE FOR THAT?

  • >> OH, I DON'T KNOW.

  • >> Jimmy: A LOT, THOUGH, RIGHT?

  • >> A LITTLE BIT.

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH, A LITTLE BIT.

  • AND IS THAT AS TERRIBLE AS I

  • WOULD IMAGINE IT TO BE?

  • HAVING A FINITE AMOUNT OF TIME

  • AND PEOPLE COUNTING ON YOU TO

  • LOSE WEIGHT FOR A MOVIE?

  • >> IT IS DIFFICULT AT TIMES.

  • >> Jimmy: UH-HUH.

  • >> BUT THEN THERE'S SOMETHING

  • VERY EMPOWERING ABOUT IT AS

  • WELL.

  • >> Jimmy: IS THERE?

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Jimmy: WHAT?

  • >> YEAH.

  • I THINK JUST HAVING THAT LEVEL

  • OF CONTROL OF YOURSELF.

  • >> Jimmy: UH-HUH.

  • >> IN THE BEGINNING, YOU'RE

  • EXHAUSTED.

  • >> Jimmy: UH-HUH.

  • >> YOU LOOK AT A FLIGHT OF

  • STAIRS AND IT TAKES 30 SECONDS,

  • YOU HAVE TO TALK YOURSELF INTO

  • IT.

  • I CAN DO THIS, I KNOW I CAN DO

  • THIS.

  • BUT THEN ONCE YOU'VE REACHED

  • YOUR TARGET WEIGHT, I DON'T KNOW

  • WHAT HAPPENS.

  • IT'S INCREDIBLE.

  • YOU SUDDENLY FEEL ENERGIZED AND

  • EXCITED.

  • >> Jimmy: MAYBE YOUR STOMACH

  • SHRIVELS UP TO THE SIZE OF A

  • RAISIN AND YOU DON'T WANT ANY

  • MORE FOOD.

  • >> NO, YOU WANT FOOD.

  • >> Jimmy: SOMETIMES I WILL FAST

  • FOR THE DAY AND LOOK AT RECIPES

  • ONLINE.

  • AND I'LL SAY I NEED TO SAVE

  • THAT, I NEED TO MAKE THAT

  • CHEESEBURGER, I GOT TO DO THIS.

  • >> IT'S TOUGH.

  • BECAUSE YOU CAN'T WATCH TV.

  • A COMMERCIAL COMES ON FOR FOOD

  • AND [ BLEEP ].

  • >> Jimmy: YOU START THINKING,

  • I'M GOIN' TO THE SIZZLER.

  • >> I'M VEGAN.

  • SO I DON'T DO THAT.

  • >> Jimmy: THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF

  • CHICKPEAS.

  • >> YEAH, IT REARS ITS HEAD IN

  • WEIRD WAYS, IN DREAMS.

  • >> Jimmy: DO YOU GO OUT TO

  • DINNER WITH PEOPLE AND DON'T

  • EAT?

  • >> NO, YOU DON'T SOCIALIZE.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU DO NOT SOCIALIZE?

  • >> NO, NOT AT ALL.

  • PEOPLE DON'T REALIZE, OUR

  • ACTIVITIES REVOLVE AROUND FOOD

  • AND DRINK.

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • >> Jimmy: AND EXPLAINING TO THE

  • WAITER, I'M NOT EATING, I'M PART

  • OF A MOVIE, OH, WHAT MOVIE ARE

  • YOU DOING?

  • I'M DOING "JOKER."

  • AND YOU CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ABOUT

  • THE MOVIE, RIGHT?

  • IT'S STILL PRETTY SECRET.

  • >> I CAN.

  • >> Jimmy: BUT YOU PROBABLY

  • SHOULDN'T.

  • >> SHOULD WE TEST IT?

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • SEE HOW FAR WE CAN GO?

  • >> Jimmy: THE FUNNY THING IS

  • THESE PEOPLE CHEERING RIGHT NOW

  • WOULD BE THE MADDEST PEOPLE.

  • IF JOAQUIN WERE TO TELL YOU WHAT

  • HAPPENS IN THE MOVIE RIGHT NOW,

  • PEOPLE WOULD WALK OUT OF HERE

  • PISSED

  • >> MAYBE NOT.

  • >> Jimmy: GIVE IT A GO.

  • LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • >> THE VERY LAST SCENE.

  • [ LAUGHTER ]

  • NO, WHAT'S FUN ABOUT THIS MOVIE

  • IS IT REALLY KEEPS YOU GUESSING.

  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT.

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH.

  • >> AND SO I WOULDN'T WANT TO

  • RUIN THAT FOR ANYBODY.

  • LIKE I THINK IT'S FUN.

  • MY SISTERS, MY WHOLE FAMILY CAME

  • TO THE PREMIERE.

  • >> Jimmy: UH-HUH.

  • >> AFTERWARD, WE WENT TO MY

  • PLACE AND MY SISTERS GOT INTO A

  • HEATED DECISION ABOUT WHAT THE

  • MOVIE WAS ABOUT, WHAT IT MEANT.

  • THEY WERE REALLY ENGAGED IN A

  • WAY THAT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN WITH

  • OTHER MOVIES OF MINE.

  • THEY HAVEN'T SEEN MY OTHER

  • MOVIES, BUT --

  • [ LAUGHTER ]

  • BUT THEY WOULDN'T HAVE BEEN AS

  • ENGAGED.

  • >> Jimmy: DO YOU ANSWER ANY OF

  • THE QUESTIONS THAT THEY HAVE?

  • OR YOU STAY OUT OF IT.

  • >> NO, IT'S GREAT.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU JUST LIKE TO SEE

  • IT HAPPEN.

  • EVEN THOUGH I HAD NO ROLE IN THE

  • MOVIE, I EXPLAINED IT TO

  • EVERYONE AT WORK.

  • WE HAD A SCREENING AND WE WERE

  • DISCUSSING IT AND I ACT AS IF I

  • AM THE AUTHORITY.

  • I DO HAVE A THEORY ABOUT THE

  • END.

  • I CAN'T SAY BECAUSE IT WOULD

  • RUIN IT, BUT I'LL TELL YOU

  • DURING THE COMMERCIAL BREAK MY

  • THEORY.

  • ARE YOU A MYSTERIOUS MAN, WOULD

  • PEOPLE FIND YOU TO BE MYSTERE

  • US.

  • >> >> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

  • >> Jimmy: I FEEL THAT WE DON'T

  • KNOW A TON ABOUT YOU PERSONALLY.

  • IS THAT INTENTIONAL?

  • >> I DON'T KNOW A LOT ABOUT YOU.

  • >> Jimmy: THAT'S JUST BECAUSE

  • YOU DON'T WATCH THE SHOW.

  • MOST PEOPLE TELL ME THEY KNOW

  • FAR TOO MUCH ABOUT ME.

  • THEY WOULD PREFER TO KNOW A

  • LITTLE BIT LESS ABOUT ME.

  • BUT I WOULD ASK YOU A COUPLE OF

  • VERY RANDOM QUESTIONS, OKAY?

  • I THINK THIS WILL BE FUN FOR

  • YOU.

  • >> OKAY, I'M EXCITED.

  • >> Jimmy: OKAY.

  • FIRST MOVIE YOU EVER SAW IN A

  • THEATER?

  • >> I DON'T REMEMBER.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU DON'T REMEMBER?

  • WOW.

  • >> HOLD ON.

  • I GOT IT.

  • IT'S RIGHT THERE, IT'S RIGHT

  • THERE, HOLD ON.

  • NO, I HAVE NO IDEA.

  • >> Jimmy: REALLY?

  • THIS WAS A BAD EXPERIMENT.

  • WHY DON'T WE TAKE A BREAK.

  • AND THIS IS A WEIRD THING TO

  • SAY, MAYBE, BUT YOUR DANCING IN

  • THE MOVIE IS VERY GOOD.

  • YOU'RE GOOD DANCER.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • >> [ BLEEP ].

  • >> Jimmy: TRAINING FOR THE

  • DANCING?

  • OR WAS THAT ALL JUST COMING FROM

  • INSIDE?

  • >> YEAH, THERE WERE TWO

  • SEQUENCES.

  • I WORKED WITH THIS CHOREOGRAPHER

  • NAMED MICHAEL ARNOLD WHO WORKED

  • ON THE SEQUENCE WITH THE STEPS

  • AND THE SEQUENCE WHERE I'M THE

  • CLOWN, WE WORKED ON THOSE, BUT

  • THAT PIECE WAS SOMETHING THAT

  • REALLY WAS A REACTION TO THE

  • SCORE TODD HAD JUST RECEIVED

  • THAT BIT OF SCORE FROM THE

  • COMPOSER.

  • AND WE WERE JUST TRYING TO

  • FIGURE OUT WHAT TO DO WITH THAT

  • SCENE, AND HE STARTED PLAYING ME

  • THAT MUSIC, AND WE JUST DECIDED

  • THAT IT, WE WANTED SOMETHING

  • THAT WAS JUST UM, ILLUSTRATED

  • THIS TRANSFORMATION INTO JOKER

  • THAT WAS NONVERBAL, AND THAT'S

  • WHAT WE CAME UP WITH.

  • >> Jimmy: IS THAT TYPICALLY HOW

  • IT GOES?

  • YOU HAVE THE SCORE BEFORE YOU'RE

  • FINISHED SHOOTING THE FILM?

  • >> NO.

  • I THINK SOMETIMES -- I DON'T

  • REALLY KNOW, BUT THAT WAS THE

  • FIRST TIME I THINK THAT I'M

  • AWARE OF WHERE I WAS SO

  • INFLUENCED BIT SCORE.

  • >> Jimmy: DID YOU DANCE AS A

  • KID?

  • DO YOU HAVE ANY DANCE

  • BACKGROUND?

  • >> YEAH.

  • I DON'T WANT TO BRAG, BUT, I WAS

  • REALLY GOOD.

  • >> Jimmy: WERE YOU A GOOD

  • DANCER?

  • WERE YOU KNOWN AS A GOOD DANCER?

  • >> NOT NATIONALLY.

  • [ LAUGHTER ]

  • >> SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA.

  • >> Jimmy: AMONG YOUR CIRCLE,

  • WHAT KIND OF DANCING DID YOU DO?

  • >> YOU NAME IT.

  • >> Jimmy: REALLY?

  • >> YEAH, BUT I MEAN, PROBABLY MY

  • FORTE WAS BREAK DANCING.

  • >> Jimmy: BREAK DANCING, REALLY?

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • ARE YOU TALKING POPPING AND

  • LOCKING, SPINNING?

  • >> YEAH.

  • >> Jimmy: EVERYTHING?

  • WOULD YOU DO IT OUT ON THE

  • STREET FOR PEOPLE TO SEE?

  • >> SOMETIMES, BUT IT WAS MORE

  • PERSONAL.

  • >> Jimmy: IT WAS?

  • >> YEAH, I LIKE TO KEEP IT FOR

  • MYSELF AS A PERSONAL.

  • SOMETHING INSIDE.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU AND A PIECE OF

  • CARDBOARD IN YOUR ROOM.

  • >> YOU'RE MAKING FUN OF IT, BUT

  • IT WAS SERIOUS FOR ME.

  • >> Jimmy: THIS MOVIE, IS IT A,

  • IT SEEMED GRUELING IN SOME WAYS.

  • JOKER'S LAUGHING A LOT.

  • AND NOT IN A FUN WAY.

  • MORE LIKE IN A ROBERT DE NIRO IN

  • "CAPE FEAR" KIND OF WAY.

  • DID IT JUST SEEM UNPLEASANT TO

  • DO?

  • WAS THAT THE CASE?

  • >> NO.

  • >> Jimmy: YOU HAD FUN MAKING THE

  • MOVIE?

  • >> YEAH.

  • I DID.

  • IT WAS A LIGHT SET, YOU KNOW.

  • TODD, YOU KNOW TODD.

  • >> Jimmy: TODD PHILLIPS IS THE

  • DIRECTOR.

  • >> REALLY FUNNY, AND, YEAH, I

  • FEEL ALMOST GUILTY, BUT WE HAD A

  • REA

  • REALLY GOOD TIME.

  • >> Jimmy: IT'S INTERESTING THAT

  • YOU SAY THAT, BECAUSE TODD

  • SEPTSENT

  • ME AN OUTTAKE REEL.

  • TELL ME WHAT WAS HAPPENING HERE.

  • >> THE CONSTANT WHISPERING, JUST

  • SHUT THE [ BLEEP ] UP.

  • I'M TRYING TO FIND SOMETHING

  • REAL.

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • SORRY, [ BLEEP ].

  • IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

  • IT'S NOT A BIG DEAL.

  • YEAH.

  • IT IS.

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • I KNOW YOU STARTED [ BLEEP ]

  • EVERYTHING, LARRY.

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • MAKING FUN OF ME.

  • [ BLEEP ].

  • IT'S NOT EVEN AN INSULT.

  • REALLY?

  • HOW'S THAT A [ BLEEP ]ING

  • INSULT?

  • [ BLEEP ] I CAN'T DO THIS, MAN.

  • >> Jimmy: WHAT HAPPENED THERE.

  • WHO'S LARRY?

  • >> UM.

  • [ LAUGHTER ]

  • UM, YEAH, LARRY IS THE

  • CINEMATOGRAPHER.

  • THIS IS SO EMBARRASSING.

  • >> Jimmy: AND DID HE CALL YOU

  • CHER?

  • >> UH, YEAH.

  • LOOK, SOMETIMES, SOMETIMES

  • MOVIES GET INTENSE, BECAUSE

  • THERE ARE A LOT OF PEOPLE IN A

  • SMALL SPACE AND YOU'RE TRYING TO

  • FIND SOMETHING.

  • SO IT REQUEST FEEL INTENSE, BUT

  • UM, THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE

  • PRIVATE.

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH, YEAH.

  • >> I'M A LITTLE EMBARRASSED.

  • I'M, I'M SORRY ABOUT THAT.

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH.

  • >> SORRY YOU GUYS HAD TO SEE

  • THAT.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • >> Jimmy: I BELIEVE LARRY.

  • >> NO, IT'S NOT LARRY'S FAULT.

  • >> Jimmy: IT'S TOTALLY LARRY'S

  • FAULT, AND CHER'S FAULT IN A

  • WAY, YOU KNOW?

  • CHER DOES HAVE SOME OF THE

  • BURDEN TO TAKE FOR THIS.

  • >> SURE.

  • WELL, LET ME THINK ABOUT THIS A

  • BIT MORE.

  • >> Jimmy: OKAY, YOU DO THAT.

  • >> MY PUBLICIST WILL ISSUE A

  • FORMAL STATEMENT TOMORROW.

  • >> Jimmy: OKAY, THAT'S A GOOD

  • IDEA.

  • >> YEAH, CAN WE MOVE ON?

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH, IT'S OVER NOW,

  • SO IF YOU WANT TO GO CALL LARRY,

  • WE CAN DO IT.

  • >> WELL, I SHOULD PROBABLY

  • PUBLICLY APOLOGIZE TO LARRY.

  • >> Jimmy: YEAH, YOU PROBABLY

  • SHOULD.

  • >> LARRY?

  • I'M, THE THING IS, THOUGH,

  • [ LAUGHTER ]

  • I AM SORRY, BUT HE DID WHISPER,

  • LIKE CONSTANTLY WHILE WE'RE

  • TRYING TO WORK.

  • AND SOMETIMES IT'S REALLY HARD

  • TO FIND THE EMOTION THAT YOU'RE

  • AVE

  • AFTER, SO IT WAS WRONG OF ME,

  • BUT HE SHOULDN'T HAVE DONE IT.

  • [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE]

  • >> Jimmy: JOAQUIN PHOENIX!

  • "JOKER" OPENS IN THEATRES

  • FRIDAY.

>> Jimmy: THANK YOU FOR COMING.

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