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  • - Hello everybody.

  • This is Jack from tofluency.com along with

  • - Kate.

  • - Today in this English lesson this English conversation

  • we are going to talk about gifts,

  • and it was your idea to do this topic.

  • - Yes.

  • - How would you like to start?

  • - Sure, well, just a little bit of background

  • about what's going on in our life right now.

  • It is almost Thanksgiving,

  • which means that after Thanksgiving

  • is kind of the official beginning

  • of the Christmas season.

  • The day after Thanksgiving is called Black Friday

  • because so many people go shopping for Christmas gifts,

  • and there are sales,

  • and there's just all sorts of mayhem and chaos,

  • but we have to get our gifts a little bit early this year

  • because we're gonna spend the holiday

  • with your family in the UK.

  • - Yeah.

  • - We're doing something a little bit different

  • for gift giving this year,

  • which is something that we tried last year,

  • which was really fun.

  • - Yeah, it's Secret Santa,

  • and this is where a group of people come together,

  • and everyone has to buy a gift for someone else,

  • but you don't know who is getting your gift,

  • your present.

  • - Yeah.

  • - It's like this lottery isn't it really

  • who you're going to get a gift for.

  • We did this last year when we went on vacation to Florida,

  • and we spent Christmas in Florida.

  • Who did you have to buy a present for?

  • - For your mother.

  • - Right.

  • - I really enjoyed it because I feel like

  • I've gotten to know her so well,

  • and she has spent time at our house

  • helping us take care of the kids,

  • especially when they were newborns,

  • and it was just nice to have an opportunity

  • to really think about her and think about

  • what she would like and buy all of these presents for her.

  • - What did you get her?

  • - I got her a pair of cozy slippers,

  • a book about a nurse

  • getting trained in Yorkshire

  • around the same time that your mom became a nurse,

  • so that was really neat,

  • and I think I got her some jewelry,

  • and there might have been another thing or two,

  • but I just loved being able to

  • really concentrate on one person,

  • and maybe spend a little bit more money,

  • and time thinking about it

  • versus trying to think about five, or 10, or 15 people,

  • you know, try to budget how much to spend on each of them.

  • - It was helpful, too, because everyone was traveling.

  • - Yeah.

  • - And my family came on the plane,

  • so they couldn't take a lot of things back with them.

  • - But they did try to bring a lot of presents,

  • especially for the kids for Thomas and Emma

  • because they weren't part of the gift draw,

  • but I so badly want to talk about

  • my Secret Santa from this year,

  • but it's still a secret.

  • - Yeah, that's right, you can't tell everyone.

  • - 'Cause they could be watching.

  • - Yeah, if you're watching this after Christmas

  • then check out the comments section

  • because we can leave a comment telling people

  • what we got everyone.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Yeah, and last year, I'll actually just show this.

  • Last year my mum got me,

  • and she got this.

  • - This is amazing.

  • - This is really cool.

  • - I don't know can you see the logo in there?

  • That's the To Fluency logo and that's Jack.

  • - Yeah,

  • so she had somebody make that,

  • an artist near where she lives and it's really cool.

  • - Is that your favorite present that you've gotten recently?

  • - I think so, yeah, well, we just decided

  • to do this conversation,

  • and I'm a little bit worried

  • that I'm going to forget what people got me,

  • and the questions are going to come up.

  • - Jack, you remember all the presents that I've gotten you.

  • - Of course, of course.

  • So I think it's evident that you really like getting gifts.

  • - I do.

  • - And you like that whole process.

  • - I love it.

  • - This year you got real excited about getting gifts again.

  • - Yeah, and about the Secret Santa draw

  • because you were the one person

  • who hadn't put their name in,

  • so I was texting you constantly

  • from just different rooms in the house

  • while we were home together,

  • and I was putting the baby down,

  • or doing some laundry or something,

  • and "Jack did you enter the drawing yet?

  • "Did you enter the drawing?"

  • - Yeah.

  • It got a little bit too much,

  • but it was my fault because I should have done that earlier.

  • - Yeah.

  • - But then I couldn't find the email,

  • but anyway, we're gonna do it again this year.

  • You're real excited about it.

  • - Yes.

  • - I, on the other hand, I'm excited,

  • but I like to leave things to the last minute,

  • which means wait until just before the deadline

  • to get something.

  • - But you do really amazing presents.

  • - Thank you.

  • - Yeah.

  • - Yeah, I think I'm, but I need that immediate deadline

  • to give me the motivation and the excitement to get gifts.

  • - Yeah, I'm the same way when it's something

  • that I'm not really excited about,

  • but when it's something that I'm really excited about

  • I can't do it fast enough,

  • and I just love going shopping for other people

  • that I love, yeah.

  • - You do most of it online now, right?

  • - Yes, I do, and I like shopping in person better

  • because I like to wander through a shop,

  • and, you know, I like to feel things,

  • and talk to people and to come up with it,

  • but that's just not so practical with a kid.

  • - Yeah, it's a lot easier online.

  • - It is, yeah.

  • - I tend to do online, although, I might do,

  • this year I might get the gift in Manchester.

  • - Oh, yeah, that's a really good idea

  • because you could also discreetly ask

  • about the person that you have.

  • - You were going to say the name.

  • - And what the person might like.

  • This is gonna be dangerous.

  • - I know it is, it is.

  • - Do you like shopping for other people?

  • - I do. - You do?

  • - Yeah, I do.

  • - This surprises me, go on.

  • - The problem is I like to get people,

  • and I like to receive gifts that are practical.

  • - Right.

  • - You're more whimsical.

  • - I am. - Which means?

  • - Anything that's like delightful and a little bit strange,

  • and not necessarily practical I love that.

  • - What's an example of a whimsical gift?

  • - Just anything that's not strictly necessary.

  • I feel like that tray

  • is on the border of something whimsical,

  • even though you really like it

  • because, I mean, it's hand-painted, it's artistic,

  • it's not something that you need to have.

  • - Yeah.

  • - But also things that have

  • like imaginary quality to them are interesting,

  • and I love this time of year

  • because it is so full of things that are whimsical.

  • - Definitely.

  • - Like houses made out of cookies.