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  • - [Max] Hello.

  • - Hey.

  • - [Max] Hi, I'm Max.

  • - I'm Tracie.

  • - Hey Tracie.

  • (laughing)

  • - Oh my gosh.

  • This is so cool.

  • (laughing)

  • - Okay, so.

  • - How are these moments of feeling like a complete chump?

  • (suspenseful music)

  • What if she stands us up?

  • - It's possible.

  • - That would be something.

  • - Is that her?

  • (dramatic music)

  • That's her, right?

  • (laughing)

  • - Hello. - Hi.

  • - How you doing?

  • - I'm good, how are you?

  • - Good to meet you.

  • - Nice to meet you.

  • - Nev.

  • Max.

  • - I'm Max.

  • - Hello.

  • - Nice to meet you.

  • - Nice to meet you.

  • Hi.

  • - Tracie, who you know.

  • - It's nice to see you.

  • - Did you ever think this kind of thing would happen?

  • - No, not at all.

  • - So, when you created Reese,

  • was the plan to give her cancer and kill her immediately?

  • - No, it wasn't, that was,

  • I decided to do that after I realized it got too far.

  • - Whose funeral was that?

  • - My cousin's.

  • - [Tracie] So your cousin died?

  • - Yeah.

  • - You went to your cousin's funeral and filmed it.

  • What?

  • (dramatic music)

  • - For me the real question is, what kind of discussions

  • have come up as a result of the fact

  • that you guys live in the same city?

  • - There's been multiple times where she's been close,

  • and then it's just not happened.

  • She actually had her friend drive by my house one night,

  • and she called me after the fact

  • and said she left a note on my jeep.

  • - Well what did the note say?

  • - Said like, I can't wait to see you tomorrow, Boo Bear.

  • She's even taken pictures of the outside of the work.

  • - And sent them to you?

  • - And sent them to me.

  • - That's creepy and kind of stalker-ish.

  • - [Mike] Yeah, it's scary at times.

  • In a sense, I was being watched.

  • - You have a stalker.

  • - [Mike] It's.

  • - You've probably met this person.

  • (dramatic music)

  • Why are you torturing yourself?

  • - How can I just leave somebody who I'm that tied to?

  • I love who she is, and I can't break free

  • of the hold she has on me.

  • - [Max] You okay?

  • - Yeah.

  • (suspenseful music)

  • - Nice to meet you.

  • - Nice to meet you, too.

  • - Nev.

  • - Nice to meet you, Markie.

  • Wow.

  • - [Nev] You're very excited.

  • - I'm very, very excited.

  • I'm trying not to like jump into her arms

  • and plow her down to the floor.

  • (laughing)

  • - That's not exactly the reaction that I expected.

  • - [Max] Yeah, if anything, we've been kind of ready for--

  • - The worst?

  • - I mean, look, we all wanna be excited, obviously,

  • but I just wanna get some things out of the way first.

  • - Of course.

  • - Well if you guys wanna go sit down

  • at that table in the shade.

  • - So okay, from what we gathered from Blaire's story was

  • that you didn't come to New York,

  • and then she got a strange phone call

  • from you like a couple days afterwards,

  • saying that you were in a hospital of some kind

  • and that you weren't gonna come

  • and you were still in love with your ex girlfriend,

  • and that it was over.

  • - I never got answers, I never got reasons,

  • and that's all I want is why?

  • - So, I was 17, and the man pretty much didn't kidnap me.

  • I went on my own.

  • - What, what?

  • - He persuaded me to go with him

  • because of issues that would happen in New York that he saw.

  • - He saw issues, how could he?

  • I don't get this.

  • - [Nev] Is he an ex of yours?

  • - No.

  • - So I don't know who, just he?

  • - It's a very private situation.

  • I can't really let out names.

  • What had happened was I had a dream I went to New York

  • and I died, and I told you about the dream,

  • and he told me that if I didn't go and repent my sins

  • I guess, I don't know, he didn't make it clear, but

  • he told me pretty much if I didn't confess everything

  • to him, I would die in New York,

  • and so that pushed me to the limit as to where

  • I felt like I needed to go for you, for me, for my family,

  • so I could stay alive.

  • - Where were you, were you like far away

  • in the middle of no where?

  • - I was up in the mountains.

  • - Why does this person have so much influence over you?

  • - He was a close, personal friend.

  • - You don't think you could have told this guy you need

  • to let me know that you're not coming?

  • - No, because he didn't want to talk to you,

  • he didn't want anything to do with you.

  • - You couldn't talk to me?

  • - It's a terrible story, and I'm sorry

  • that I still don't, I don't--

  • - Fully understand.

  • - I don't understand it.

  • - I know this probably feels like an interrogation,

  • I don't want it to, but, does it come as a surprise

  • that you have a reputation for not telling the truth?

  • - No, because I have had people in my past say

  • that I have a lying problem,

  • but I do try my best not to lie to Blaire.

  • - But you still do it.

  • - I try not to.

  • - [Nev] Uh oh, wait a second.

  • (dramatic music)

  • - The (beeping) kinda (beeping).

  • - [Nev] I don't know what this is.

  • (dramatic music)

  • - I thought this ain't the (beeping).

  • (clapping)

  • (beeping) Is this?

  • - Hey man, wanna chill out a second?

  • - Shh.

  • - Excuse me.

  • - The (beeping) is man.

  • - Don't touch me.

  • - You better back up, man.

  • - Don't touch me.

  • - Better back up.

  • - The (beeping) kinda (beeping) is this?

  • - You better chill out, man.

  • - What the (beeping) kinda (beeping) is this?, man?

  • - We're talking.

  • Him and I are talking.

  • - You (beeping), you a (beeping).

  • - Hold on a second.

  • - He and I are talking.

  • I can tell you one thing right now, buddy,

  • one thing you're gonna like, you're gonna learn

  • to love it too.

  • - The hell are you talking about dude?

  • - I'm gonna be the one wearing the pants in this,

  • you understand that?

  • - The (beeping) kinda (beeping) is this?

  • - [Nev] You're being unreasonable.

  • - Straight up, the (beeping) kinda (beeping) is this?

  • - I'm just asking you to take it down a couple notches.

  • - Hey.