So, you're there

and you're diving in a pool. - [Eli] I'm in a thong.

I go in the pool,

and the guy comes in with a chainsaw.

(chainsaw revving)

- Hey, I'm James A. Janisse.

Some of you may know me as Dead Meat.

If you do, you probably already know

that I love to watch people die,

you know, like on screen.

I've always wanted to talk to before legends

who put those kills on screen

and find out what scares them,

and also if they could survive

their favorite kill scenes. (scream)

This is, Meat Up.

Today's guest, Eli Roth.

Eli Roth is making a kid's movie?

When are we going to get another Hostel...

Hey, man. Hey, how's it going? - How are ya dude?

Good to see ya. - Good.

I was just admiring your display here.

- Yeah, welcome to my new house.

- It's very lovely.

I like it, good location.

Yeah, you want to talk about it more over coffee?

- Yeah, I'd love too.

- Cool, lets go.

- Lets do it.

(jazzy piano music)

- Hey, we're here with Eli

at Commissary Coffee in West Hollywood,

a place that you actually picked out.

Is this your favorite coffee spot

- This used to be my Sunday spot,

kinda before I got into editing,

I would just walk down here with my dog,

have breakfast.

- Were any of your movies written here?

- I generally write at my house.

I usually go to coffee places to read.

I find if I get a script and I read it,

and I'm reading at my house,

I always fall asleep,

and that's just a bad, bad way to read a script.

Cuz, you're just cozy, and you have a snack,

and you just fall asleep.

But, you know, in a coffee place you're like,

Oh, by the time this coffees done

I'll be finished with the script.

- Cool. I just ordered whatever you ordered.

What'd we get?

- I went for the iced almond milk cappuccino,

because they have a nice almond milk here.

I make my own almond milk.

I'm really like an almond milk snob.

(James giggling) But, I cut out sugar.

So, I'm super hard-core, no sugar.

I had a real sugar addiction problem

that I certainly indulged on Death Wish.

(James chuckling)

So, for House of the Clock, I was like,

I gotta do something, man.

And I 100% cut out sugar,

just so I'd get off being addicted to the taste of it.

So I stay off it now.

- Haven't you actually been labeled

as one of the fittest directors before?

- That was actually a great scam

that I pulled - Oh Yeah?

- Yeah. One of the early scenes,

Back when your IMBD trivia was kind of everything

and a journalist would just look for that.

A friend of mine from college

was doing an article for Men's Fitness Magazine

or Men's Health Magazine

and he was like,

hey, can I put you as most fit director?

And, I was like,

absolutely you can. - Nice.

- So, he put me as most fit director

and man did that piss off the other directors.

I really did it to (bleep) with the

other directors.

- Did anyone in particular

say like - All of them. Quentin's like,

I'm taking your (bleep) title (James laughs)

And Edgars, Edgar Rowe's like,

(in nasally voice) oh, it's the most fit director

(James laughs)

I'm gonna take your (bleep) title next year,

and then you'd see like

director, I saw Rich Kelly's all jacked up.

He's like, guess who's going to be most fit director?

So, it's funny that,

you know once I got labeled that,

so of course I put it on my IBMD trivia,

and then it just got into the vernacular of Eli Roth,

the most fit director.

And that's just like,

it's just,

I didn't think I was going to win an Oscar

with Cabin Fever, so it's just a good way

to needle everybody. - Yeah, sure.

- It's like I might not have that, but I do have this title.

(island drum music)

- With you're new movie

it's rated PG.

Did you feel like you had to approach the set differently

then you would for Green Inferno? (laughs)

- Yeah, sure.

I mean, Green Inferno we were in the Amazon,

and it was all adults.

But look, there were kids around in the village

in Green Inferno, but they didn't speak English.

That was the difference.

I wanted to make a PG movie.

I miss PG movies.

I miss scary PG movies.

You know, I miss movies like Gremlins, Goonies,

Poltergeist, ET, Raiders.

The movies people are still watching

are Gremlins and

Beetle Juice and films like that.

There isn't that movie that's your stepping stone

to really scary, intense horror.

I mean I didn't start out, I mean I was the exception.

Yeah, I started out with Alien

- Yeah. - The Exorcist, but most kids,

(James chuckles) they didn't start out with

Texas Chainsaw Massacre.

A lot of those violent movies,

I remember seeing Texas Chainsaw Massacre

when I was 12 or 13 because these are VHS movies.

But the movies that I saw in the theaters,

with your parents that were scary and fun,

or at a birthday party, a whole group of kids would go see.

Those are the ampler movies.

Those were big, fun, scary theatrical experiences.

And the movies were fun,

and they had a sense of humor too.

But they got you excited about scary,

they showed you the fun of being scared.

And the thing about those ampler movies was

they always did something you were like,

Whoa! Can they do that in a kid's movie?

- Yeah. - Like even in ET

when he was like, it was nothing like that penis breath,

and we were like, (James laughs)

did they really just say that in this movie?

It was like, even when ET is dead in the movie

you're like,

Oh my God, they really killed him.

And they were like leaving.

- Yeah. - I was crying. I was a mess

when Et died.

Then the plant, the flower goes up

and you're like,

the flower, look at the flower.

So, all those moments,

they really push you to that emotional extreme,

and Spielberg's hits me.

I had a really great meeting with him before

and he was like, make it scary.

Really, really, make it scary.

Cuz kids love to be scared. They love it.

I think people are getting that

fix with Stranger Things. - Yeah.

- I think they're getting it in other places.

But, there isn't the movies that's like,

wow, that's darker than I thought it was going to be.

- Yeah. - A movie that was scary,

properly scary. - Yeah.

(light instrumental music)

- So you mentioned History of Horror,

that's your latest project?