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  • Welcome back! T-34-85 Part 2: Turret and Interior!

  • Now the turret, of course, big difference between it

  • and the earlier model to accommodate the larger gun,

  • also meant you had a three man crew.

  • This is great, the TC could spend his time commanding the tank

  • and not performing multiple duty.

  • Now initially T-35-85 turrets had about 75mm of armour on the front

  • and about 52 on the sides and rear.

  • However, later models, by the end of 1944,

  • you are starting to look at 90mm at the front

  • and 75 on the sides and rear.

  • The Turret was of cast construction,

  • although the roof was a simple sheet of metal

  • which got welded in place.

  • TC of course has his own cupola now.

  • It's a fixed cupola, the vision ports are fixed,

  • you can't rotate them around.

  • However, he can rotate the roof with the hatch.

  • So by lifting up the lever here, it's on rollers,

  • it rotates fairly simply.

  • Now the hatch itself, after I lock this back into place.

  • Very simple, one piece, it's locked in place by a simple locking latch

  • and there is a torsion bar spring to help lift it open.

  • That's the outside, let's go in.

  • Now the Commander's seat, is not really the most comfortable

  • that I've ever been in,

  • it's actually a good incentive to fight with your head out.

  • Now for reasons which elude me it seems the TC has a choice

  • of two different foot pedals.

  • The first one is below the gunner's seat.

  • In order to get to fold down,

  • you have to lift up the gunner's seat to give it room

  • and then let the gunner's seat fold down.

  • Now with this set of food pedals he's aiming pretty much

  • his legs in a forward direction,

  • so he's quite comfortable.

  • The downside though is that with his knees lower down,

  • he's more of a risk of hitting the gunner in the back.

  • The other set of foot rests,

  • which is part of the gunner's seat itself,

  • the advantage is now my knees have been lifted up not quite

  • as intruding into the gunner's space.

  • The downside though is that now my knees are angled over at forty degrees,

  • and so I'm fighting with my body twisted

  • and it doesn't strike me as being particularly comfortable

  • for any length or duration.

  • To see out, TC isn't doing too badly.

  • He's got five of these individual vision points around here,

  • which, if it looks like you're taking fire,

  • you can actually pull down and it will protect the port.

  • To his front here he has a binocular or unity sight,

  • which is adjustable in elevation,

  • and, in theory, traverse, although this one is a little bit stiff.

  • He doesn't have any other controls.

  • He's along for the ride.

  • No TC's override, he's got some stowage facilities

  • around him so it looks like a little bit sparse

  • but otherwise his job is, quite simply, command the tank.

  • Probably a nice relief for T-34 Commanders

  • who used to have to do multiple duty

  • in earlier versions of the tank.

  • Other than that, the only thing I can really say is that if I've got no gunner,

  • I can stretch my legs out

  • and I can still control the turret and get her around.

  • Not really a three man crew because you've got no sight

  • but it's comfortable.

  • The better way to control the gun, of course,

  • is from the gunner's seat, so that's where I'll go next.

  • That was easy.

  • So this is an example of elegance in operation:

  • it's a crude tank but it can also be elegant.

  • So you sit and here and you go

  • 'Well, where is the control for the powered traverse'

  • because, obviously you've got manual traverse,

  • you have manual elevation.

  • Where is powered traverse?

  • Because, ordinarily, there would be another set of controls.

  • Well, no, not in this -

  • they saved space.

  • All you do is move the manual control to the top left,

  • pull out the handle and now you're in a powered traverse mode.

  • It's not precise, but it's a lot faster than cranking.

  • So, if I try spinning to the right

  • POWER!

  • Alright, so similarly, going back,

  • again note how there's momentum in the turret,

  • it continues to spin even after I go back to the zero position.

  • So this is a case of traversing quickly to get roughly on target.

  • More or less straight, then you go back to manual mode,

  • and that's how you conduct your final lay and service the target that way.

  • And again, you saw how fast this thing spins, being a loader,

  • holding that big 85mm shell, while the turret spins,

  • unpredictably,

  • because you don't control it, you want to pay attention.

  • To engage the target the gunner is supposed to have a TSh-15 sight.

  • As you can see, it's somewhat missing.

  • It did have an electric light bulb so you could have an illuminated reticle

  • for firing at night

  • and by January of 1945 it came with a heater to prevent it from fogging.

  • This primary toy is the S-53 85mm cannon.

  • 54.6 calibres in length and it has 56 rounds to play with.

  • Maximum service range: 5,200 metres.

  • The gun has two ways of firing, electrical or manual.

  • The electrical trigger is located on the elevation handle.

  • The manual trigger is located next to the solenoid here.

  • It would be a string that you pull and it would release the firing pin.

  • Just behind the solenoid and manual firing trigger is an elevation quadrant.

  • You can use this to engage targets at night

  • if you are firing from a range card for example,

  • so you can't actually see the target,

  • you know what the range is.

  • Or alternatively perhaps, for indirect fire,

  • although without an azimuth indicator,

  • at least not a precise one,

  • I'm not entirely sure how that would be performed.

  • There is a basic azimuth indicator on the left hand side.

  • It's a simple pointer.

  • There is a graduated scale on the inside of the turret ring and

  • that will give you an approximate way of telling

  • which way you are facing compared to the hull.

  • To his front he has selectors for the main gun and the coaxial machine gun.

  • Curiously, you can have them both on or both off at the same time.

  • I'm not entirely sure that's how it's supposed to work,

  • so we'll have main on, and coax off.

  • The coaxial is a 7.62mm DT

  • and he has over 1800 rounds of ammunition to play with in drums.

  • To his left he has a pistol port,

  • there is another one on the other side of the turret.

  • You unscrew it, bring it down,

  • you can then push out the port plug

  • and engage targets with what was usually a revolver.

  • It was preferred by the tankers over the semi-auto apparently.

  • And you just put it back in, lock into place, and off you go.

  • Last thing on the right hand side.

  • This is a recoil guard with a travelling position.

  • So, the release latch would be here, unfortunately,

  • its locked into place, so I can't release it to demonstrate going up and down.

  • However, sufficed to say, it can theoretically be done.

  • Last thing to say for the gunner,

  • he doesn't have a foot rest of his own

  • but because he is in control of when the turret traverses,

  • it's probably less critical.

  • That's the gunner's side.

  • Loader next.

  • Now, we're over on the loader's side

  • and this is where things start getting a little bit nasty.

  • For starters, of course, there is no turret baskets

  • so I'm standing on ammunition boxes which are on the hull floor,

  • so I've got to be careful as I'm wandering around inside the tank.

  • I've seen the turret on this thing move under electrical power.

  • It is actually very fast,

  • which means you have a tripping and leg-cutting-off hazard for the loader.

  • Now it is possible for the Loader to have a Loader's seat,

  • however, I've never ever seen a loader sit in a loader's seat

  • when performing the loading operation.

  • It's usually more for road marches or long distance travelling.

  • So perhaps this is why it isn't in this particular tank,

  • perhaps the loader just got sick of it being in the way.

  • He has enough problems of his own to deal with.

  • As you can see, I'm…

  • Let me stand up and I can show you how little room I have to stand.

  • So that shows you where the floor is,

  • and what kind of angle my legs are on right now.

  • So, yes, I know I'm taller than most people,

  • a foot isn't a difference though,

  • it takes more than a foot and a difference to do this.

  • You would have to be particularly short to work on this.

  • The Ammunition, as you can see, is not particularly short.

  • 85mm of course, much stronger than the earlier one.

  • So once I insert the round in,

  • it's not going to go in all the way because the breech has been welded up.

  • But you can see how the back of the round rests on this spring-loaded deflector.

  • It's is actually a relatively neat little thing here.

  • What it will do is it will take some of the weight off of the long round

  • and make it easier for the loader with his left hand,

  • his weak hand usually, to throw the round in

  • without also having to support its weight.

  • Of course it springs up out of the way

  • to let the empty shell casing fall to the floor,

  • where the loader can then trip over it.

  • The loader does have another periscope of his own.

  • It's of course adjustable in elevation and rotation.

  • Forward of that is a dome light on the turret roof

  • mounted over the machine gun -

  • which I have to say is rather convenient -

  • if he wants to change ammo belts in the dark.

  • The loader has sixteen rounds of ready ammunition available to him.

  • Four are on the turret wall behind him,

  • and the other twelve are located in the bustle.

  • The rest of the sixty rounds of 85mm, in the hull.

  • Now unlike an American Tank which have removable panels

  • which basically make a false floor,

  • the T-34-85's ammunition boxes are stowed in the open,

  • giving an uneven footing for the loader

  • as he's attempting to navigate his way around inside.

  • So the astute of you will realise this segment is filmed

  • in a different tank on a different day.

  • We had a small incident involving a memory card and the turret monster.

  • However, this is the bow gunner's position on the T-34,

  • and I have to say this is rather miserable,

  • not because it's uncomfortable,

  • which is my normal complaint about such things,

  • in fairness, the seat is actually very nice,

  • and you can see my leg is actually absolutely straight.

  • I can put both legs absolutely straight into the bow of the tank.

  • No, what really concerns me more is the fact that he can't see a damn thing.

  • Your only view of the outside world, except maybe the driver's hatch,

  • is from this small little hole through

  • which you shoot your DT machine gun.

  • Outside of that, you can imagine the noise of battle

  • and you have no idea what's coming at you.

  • You just have this small little hole.

  • Oh, by the way, what happens when you get hit?

  • Well, there is actually, at my feet a very small escape hatch.

  • Very small. Still, slightly bigger than the Matilda's I guess.

  • For his machine gun he's got 22 drums scattered around

  • in double depth here,

  • single here and then there is a vertical row

  • and of course you got one on the gun itself.

  • Held in place by a very simple travel lock,

  • just unscrew it a little bit and there you go.

  • It's very solidly in place.

  • You almost don't need to put your shoulder up onto it.

  • You certainly have no need for the shoulder guard here.

  • Radios if mounted in the hull,

  • would be in the front right corner here.

  • However, this particular tank has moved the radio to the bustle.

  • Outside of that, all he has to worry about is

  • not getting in the way of the driver and the gear stick.

  • Now the other thing to point out in here firstly is

  • the interior space is largely taken up,

  • rather heavily, by the suspension units you can see here and here.

  • Now this is the downside with the Christie Design.

  • In order to get that large range of travel,

  • the large springs eat up a lot of your internal volume.

  • So the interior space here is a lot narrower

  • than it would be on any other tank.

  • Now it's not entirely wasted though,

  • if you have a look behind, there are fuel tanks

  • in between the suspension units,

  • and oil tanks further back.

  • So, not totally wasted, but still narrower than you would like.

  • The last thing in here, if you look at the far corner you can see

  • one of the locking systems for the idler-wheel.

  • So again, if you're going to tension the track,

  • unlock it from inside here, adjust the tension on the outside,

  • and then you lock it back into place.

  • Outside of that, the only thing blocking

  • his legs is the axel for the front road wheel,

  • and the next stop is the driver's hole!

  • Alright, so moving into the driver's position, definitely,

  • you can see my knees are up.

  • This is more for the shorter people in the crew.

  • To see out he has two prisms to his direct front

  • and course the hatch will simply move up out of the way.

  • It's lifted by a large cylindrical spring here.

  • So you undo the two locking levers, push forward,

  • it springs up and it's held in place by use of a screw here.

  • Make sure you do it tightly enough.

  • There we go.

  • Nice and secure and we have a little bit more light.

  • So, quick tour of the driver's station.

  • My foot is now on the clutch.

  • That's as far down as it goes.

  • There is a service brake in the middle, and an accelerator on the right.

  • Steering of course, controlled by the two tillers.

  • These are also brakes.

  • Now, this is a two stage steering system.

  • You pull back to the first stage,

  • all that happens is that the clutch disengages.

  • You have power going to one track only.

  • You pull back to the second stage,

  • and this now applies brakes on the inside.

  • Now the disadvantage with this,

  • and this is why you see it's so jerky when a T-34 is turning,

  • is that it's not very efficient on the power.

  • The tank will slow down as you're going around the curve.

  • Advantage?

  • It's very simple to build. It's also a little bit tiring for the driver.

  • So starting around on the left hand side,

  • this is the control valve for the high pressure engine start system.

  • Now there are two ways of starting this thing.

  • You got the standard electrical starter motor,

  • or if for some reason that doesn't work there is a compressed air system.

  • Now the bottles for that are in the very bow of the tank.

  • Release the level and a blast of high pressure air will come down,

  • cycle the engine -

  • it's a compression system so no electrics required.

  • Engine roars to life and hopefully your alternator will then take over

  • and you will have electrical power for the tank.

  • The high pressure air is only filled by mechanics

  • it's not re-pressurised by the system,

  • and that's why it's not the primary means of starting.

  • So the last thing I'll mention in here is

  • that I can't help but notice I'm behind the turret ring,

  • pretty much down to my midriff,

  • which means that the driver has probably got to be leaning forward at all times,

  • otherwise he's going to have a serious issue of the turret traversing around

  • and various large, heavy metal components interfacing

  • with his head with a lack of clearance.

  • I don't know, how much of a problem that this was in practice.

  • I guess after the first couple of knocks you learned a couple of lessons,

  • however, I just pointed it out as something

  • that strikes me as being a bit unfortunate.

  • So that's it for this little sequence.

  • Through the wizardry of editing we are now going to go back

  • to our original location.

  • Alright, we're going to have a crack at moving this thing.

  • The starter process of course, warm engine,

  • because the mechanic has been helping us a little bit,

  • and frankly, we've been practicing.

  • So the gear lever is in neutral,

  • foot brake must be applied,

  • and there's a reason for that we'll come back to, I just learned!

  • Press down on the clutch.

  • Hand Brake, correction, hand accelerator about half way up.

  • Then it's pump, horn, let everyone know you're starting, and starter.

  • So if all is well, let's see what happens!

  • Okay, we seem to be idling.

  • Now to get her into first, you've got to put her in reverse.

  • Hopefully, I've done that.

  • Take off the brake -

  • just push down and release -

  • and let's see what happens!

  • Little bit of clanking.

  • Not bad.

  • Barely touching the speedometer

  • and we'll come to a halt here.

  • To go back into neutral,

  • I've got to put it in reverse again.

  • Okay, so my gear stick says I'm in neutral.

  • I let go of the clutch...I'm in neutral.

  • Now I've got to go backwards again,

  • all the way forwards with the gear stick.

  • Don't ask. I'll try both hands.

  • Ow! That's a heavy clutch as well by the way.

  • Okay, reverse works.

  • Okay I'm now stopped.

  • I put it back into neutral.

  • Not quite neutral.

  • You've actually got to put it back into first in order to totally disengage the gear.

  • So now, in theory, if I let golet's try it again

  • okay I've disengaged the gear.

  • Cut the hand throttle and then set the parking brake.

  • So what happened there was,

  • when I pulled back into first gear to disengage from reverse,

  • I went a bit too far.

  • I engaged first and took my foot off the clutch, the tank crept forward.

  • So to disengage from first, back into neutral,

  • back, just touching the reverse gear,

  • should disengage first, came back into neutral again,

  • let go of the clutch, and that was the end of that!

  • And that is why the foot brake has to be set

  • before you start the engine,

  • because you don't know if the last gear was properly disengaged.

  • The fact that you can move or turn the gear levers

  • side to side has no bearing as to

  • whether you are in gear or not, which is a little bit disconcerting.

  • And the other thing which is a bit disconcerting if you didn't notice,

  • was just how much force it was taking me to push or pull into gear.

  • Not very relaxing!

  • Still an interesting educational experience.

  • Alright, so with what little strength I have left in my left leg

  • after holding down the clutch for so much,

  • it's not a light clutch,

  • I'm going to attempt to egress in the traditional manner out the driver's hole.

  • I am told head first, chest up is the preferred technique.

  • Not having my foot stuck is probably a good start.

  • Oh to hell with the preferred technique!

  • Okay, who put the steering lever in the way?!

  • Half way there...

  • As I almost fall off the front slope.

  • Fortunately, the spare track links almost broke my fall.

  • You know, if the tank's on fire, I'm going to get out the turret.

  • Now the Russians are going to hate me.

  • I don't like this tank very much.

  • Now don't get me wrong, I respect it immensely.

  • As a strategic war-winning vehicle, this thing served the Red Army supremely.

  • However, as a tanker,

  • it strikes me very much that it was designed purely

  • with the needs of the state in mind

  • and the needs of the crew really didn't get much of a look in.

  • Perhaps it is simply a cultural thing but as a western tanker,

  • that concept doesn't sit well with me.

  • Still 35,000 of the things were made,

  • and if you add to that,

  • the production run of the earlier T-34s, this brings you nearly to 80,000,

  • that alone cements the T-34's place into the annals of Tank History.

  • By the close of the war, the Tank was starting to show its age a little bit,

  • and indeed about ninety percent of anti-tank gun hits

  • on the T-34 would penetrate the vehicle.

  • However, the fact that it was still a perfectly serviceable vehicle

  • at the end of the war is a testament

  • to how good of a fundamental design T-34 was back

  • in 1940, at the beginning of the war.

  • It was, however, a bit of an evolutionary dead end.

  • A lot of the features that made the T-34 so awesome at the beginning of the war,

  • such as the Christie Suspension, the strange drive system,

  • the all-around sloping armour.

  • They were dispensed with in later Soviet Tanks as well.

  • It would continue on to see service throughout the world,

  • it was widely exported, for many, many years.

  • Now it got to the point that anybody with basic mechanical skills

  • could keep this operating.

  • There was a case in Hungary about ten years ago.

  • Some protesters found a T-34 that was used as a monument,

  • they fired it up and used it to attack the police,

  • unfortunately, they forgot about some basic fundamentals of tank warfare -

  • they left their supporting infantry behind.

  • The police walked up to the tank and they lobbed tear gas

  • down the hatches, which they also forgot to close.

  • So there is an example as to why it is important

  • that crew training is just as much of a factor as the tank itself.

  • That was the T-34.

  • I hope you found it somewhat amusing and informative.

  • I'll see you on the next one.

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