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  • You know the car they bring money to the bank? - Mhm.

  • Yes.

  • What part did you rob? The truck or the bank?

  • I robbed the truck.

  • How did you do that?

  • How did you know all the difference between all this stuff?

  • I watch movies.

  • Hi, what's your name?

  • I'm Jessie.

  • I'm Anthony.

  • Nice to meet you.

  • Nice to meet you.

  • My name is Celine, nice to meet you.

  • Wow! That's very professional.

  • Thank you.

  • I like that coat, you look very professional.

  • Thank you.

  • Okay, so what are we here to talk about?

  • Uh, what do you think?

  • Do you know why you're here?

  • I do.

  • Why are we here?

  • 'Cause of something that you did in 2008.

  • Are you a bank robber?

  • I was a bank robber.

  • Yes!

  • You're a bank robber?

  • Basically a bank rob- well, kind of a bank robber.

  • I was addicted to drugs, and that's a whole different story.

  • So it made me really, really, think kinda stupid.

  • Why did you say a bad word?

  • What did I say?

  • Stupid.

  • I did?

  • Look, I wasn't very smart.

  • During the robbery, were you on drugs?

  • I was always on drugs.

  • What part did you rob? The truck or the bank?

  • I robbed the truck.

  • How did you do that?

  • How did you know all the difference between all the stuff?

  • I watch movies.

  • Okay, well, yes, I robbed a Brinx armored car.

  • Society, like, idealizes, like good heist movies like Oceans Eleven, or Thomas Crown.

  • Those are great movies.

  • I was kind of like, too fascinated in your story.

  • That's probably not a good thing.

  • What is exactly your story?

  • I placed an ad like I was an employer for people to show up at the bank at the same time.

  • And when people responded saying, "Yes, I'd like the job,"

  • I wrote back and I said, "Okay, show up at the bank at eleven. Make sure to wear a blue shirt, a blue hat and a safety vest."

  • The same outfit that I was wearing.

  • The day of the robbery, the armored car pulls in; the guy gets out, and he's just doing his thing, kinda walking by him, and then turns to him, pepper sprays him, takes the money and then takes off.

  • How do you get away with the money?

  • I had a landscaper or like a yard worker's outfit on with a wig and I ripped all of this stuff off and I threw it on the ground in a pile and I had a totally different outfit on.

  • Okay?

  • So what are people gonna say?

  • "Who robbed the bank?"

  • "Person wearing the orange did."

  • Duh da duh da duh.

  • You, you, you.

  • That's right. Was I wearing orange anymore?

  • [Both Children] No, you weren't.

  • I was last seen running towards this highway and on the other side, there's this little stream that no one really knows about and - you know what an inner tube is?

  • Yeah.

  • I went down, threw the money into the inner tube, got on my back and pulled myself upstream, went up this little hill, got in the trunk of a car, and my buddy drove off.

  • I went home to my wife and two-year-old, and fifteen-day old baby.

  • Wow.

  • Why did you do it when you were in such a good position?

  • I was desperate.

  • And it was like we had this house, on the outside you' be like, wow, you know, he's got everything, but I was losing everything.

  • How much money did you steal?

  • I stole four hundred thousand.

  • I thought you stole 9 million.

  • Are you not- I don't know if he's supposed to be impressed.

  • He's not impressed!

  • I'm not impressed.

  • You should work hard for your money, like get a job, not like steal money.

  • You're very right.

  • I shouldn't have stolen that money.

  • Wait, so you hide the secret?

  • It was a secret, yes.

  • Like Spiderman hiding his suit?

  • Except Spiderman was doing good things.

  • Yeah.

  • So obviously there was one flaw in your plan.

  • Yeah.

  • A week and a half before the robbery happened, I was doing a time run.

  • Time is very important, you know why time is so important when you are committing crimes? - Yeah.

  • Now I'm teaching you guys how to commit crimes.

  • Why do you think time is so important?

  • Is it the math times?

  • Oh I know, if you're like going to work and you are still sleeping in bed, the time just smacks you in the head like smack.

  • I have no idea what you guys are talking about.

  • So I did a time run to get from the bank to the creek, to the creek to the car.

  • Now I don't think I'm doing- in my head- I'm not doing anything wrong that day.

  • This homeless man is like, "Hey, I know what that stuff is."

  • And I blew him off, okay?

  • What happened is this guy called in the police, it was enough for them to basically get survelliance and follow me around.

  • Meanwhile, the crime happened a week later and I had gone to a gas station, thrown away a bottle, okay?

  • They waited until I drove off, retrieved the bottle.

  • Tested it for DNA.

  • Ding, ding, ding!

  • I was caught by a homeless guy.

  • Did you think you would get caught?

  • No.

  • Why would I do it if I did?

  • That's kinda how a criminal thinks.

  • Right?

  • Stupid?

  • Ha! You said it. That's right, yes!

  • Have you seen Batman?

  • I have.

  • And you know the Joker wearing masks and stuff?

  • He was a bank robber too.

  • The bad guy landed...

  • Bad guy? Am I a bad guy?

  • No, you're not. - Yes!

  • There, there.

  • Did you go to jail for it?

  • I went to jail.

  • So how long have you been in jail?

  • I was sentenced to six years in prison.

  • Prison is just like absolutely wretched place in the movies, like, you know, what was it like in real life?

  • Like, when you watch a TV show, there is somebody getting stabbed all the time or whatever.

  • No, like, that does happen but it's not violent and crazy all the time.

  • It's just so depressing that you can almost feel it. It's like in the air.

  • That's something they probably wouldn't show in a movie.

  • Yeah.

  • I remember that I used to visit my dad in prison.

  • And then my dad came back from prison.

  • And what was that day like?

  • It was the happiest day of my life.

  • I bet you it was the happiest day of your dads too.

  • What would have happened if you hadn't got caught?

  • I would have kept doing other stuff.

  • It would have gotten bigger and bigger and bigger.

  • So are you glad you got caught?

  • Yes. Absolutely.

  • Would you do it again?

  • No.

  • You know why? The main reason why?

  • It's not so much prison and that I got punished and all the, you know, things that happen in prison.

  • It was that I was away from my kids.

  • I cared about them, right?

  • Right.

  • And so I started drawing them pictures, and I would send them home and I knew they were little,

  • but they'd look at the picture probably for a second and then they'd put it away, but at least they would know that their daddy drew that picture for 'em.

  • And I started making books for 'em.

  • Like, happy birthday book.

  • And then I would make stories, I really got into drawing books.

  • Well, when I came home from prison, I just made my own books.

  • At first, no one bought 'em.

  • But then, I had one book that became a best-seller.

  • I got really, really lucky.

  • And I was able to again buy a house, so my family could all live together again.

  • Do you make a lot of money writing books?

  • I am making more money writing books than when I did when I was a criminal.

  • These are based after my daughters.

  • What are their names?

  • Isabella and Lila.

  • They're detectives in that.

  • And they've gotta find out who stole the cake.

  • Isn't that ironic?

  • It's very ironic.

  • Do you think you're a good role model for kids?

  • No, there's a lot to learn from people who fail.

  • I'm a great example of what not to do.

  • Yeah, I learned my lesson.

  • You learned your lesson? From me?

  • Yeah.

  • That's good, that means-

  • Never rob a bank.