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  • Kim Sakariassen: So, thank you for allowing me to interview you this time

  • Mike Portnoy: Sure, I'm an open book.

  • KS: You're 50 years in three weeks

  • MP: Yeah, yeah...

  • KS: Is that strange to think about?

  • MP: I guess so, yeah... I mean it's just strange... Time goes fast, time is fleeting. You know,

  • not only is it strange to be turning 50 but it's just strange that it's 2017. I remember

  • when I was young and seeing the movie, like "2001 a Space Odyssey" and thinking "oh my

  • god, that's like you know just so futuristic, oh my god, will we even be alive", and here

  • we are it's already 16 years past that, you know...

  • So time is a strange thing but yeah my... you know, my kids are now growing up and you

  • know, it's just time... time gets faster as we get older

  • KS: And you're celebrating your 50 years by doing a special tour as well with "Shattered

  • Fortress"?

  • MP: Well it was never supposed to be a tour, to be honest. I mean it was only ever going

  • to be just a set at my 50th birthday bash on "Cruise to the Edge" and you know, as you

  • know now that... now that it's already happened, you know, that show was supposed to be something

  • that celebrates my whole career so we had Transatlantic and Flying Colors and did some

  • Liquid Tension music. And of course I had to play Dream Theater music. So it seemed

  • like it was the perfect time and place to finally do the 12 steps suite.

  • And honestly it was never my intention to do anything more than just that, and then

  • once the word got out then suddenly "Night of the Prog" in Loreley [Germany] invited

  • me and then "Be Prog, My Friend" in Barcelona invited me and I was like "all right, well,

  • you know, maybe not everybody can go to the cruise... it's very expensive". So you know,

  • being that I'm already up and running and rehearsed why not, you know... But only now,

  • this is it. So I figured it's, you know, my 50th birthday year and I'll do this in some

  • select markets and it will be special for the fans and good for me to get it out of

  • my system and...

  • But that's it. Just one time only.

  • KS: How did you choose the people to go with you on that tour?

  • MP: Well, um, I guess it dates back a few years... Haken was doing a US tour and my

  • son's band "next to none" was was opening for them. And at the final show of the tour

  • they asked if I would come up and play the mirror with them... Haken, I'm talking about...

  • And so I went up and played the mirror with them and they just killed. It was perfect.

  • So in the back of my mind, I thought if I ever was going to do the 12 steps suite, this

  • is the band... You know, they're all incredible musicians individually and even as a band

  • I think Haken is the new... this new generations, like, prog metal super-band. I think they're

  • just... they are kind of like what - you know - what I used to do with Dream Theater reminds

  • me of, but a modern-day version..

  • KS: Yeah they're one of my favorite bands as well...

  • MP: Yeah so I knew in the back of my head I wanted to have them as my backing bands

  • if I was to ever do the 12 steps suite and then... But then I had the idea of also adding

  • Eric Gillette because Eric plays with me in the Neal Morse Band and of all the guitar

  • players I've played with through the years he reminds me the most of John Petrucci. He

  • just has got such a similar style. So I knew I wanted him to be a part of it as well, so

  • you know, here we are now - with three guitar players. You know, because Haken has two guitar

  • players... I wasn't going to do one without the other, and then Eric as well. So it's

  • now a big kind of Dream Theater Orchestra.

  • KS: So, you're doing 12 step suite on this tour, are you doing other Dream Theater songs

  • or other songs from your catalog as well?

  • MP: Uhm... Other Dream Theater songs that are my lyrics, you know... I stay only with

  • that. But there's a lot, you know, there's a lot of songs I wrote the lyrics to. And

  • whenever I wrote the lyrics, I wrote the vocal melodies, and I also did a lot of singing

  • usually within those songs. So yeah, inevitably, you know, it's all about the 12 steps suite...

  • But inevitably, some of these shows we're going to have, you know, a little extra time...

  • maybe a 90 minutes show or whatever... So there will be some extra songs as well...

  • KS: How's the Neal Morse Band tour going now? This tour that you're on now?

  • MP: It's been great, you know, we're doing "The Similitude of a Dream" from start to

  • finish and, as I've talked about so many interviews, to me it's a very special album... For me...

  • It is to me one of my favorite albums of my entire career, and one of my favorite albums

  • of Neal's entire catalog as well. So yeah it's a very special album for us and it just...

  • it seems to be really being received really well, you know, it's like - this music is

  • so dramatic but also so emotional. Like, every night I can see grown men crying in the audience,

  • you know, and it's amazing that people are being moved as much as they are by this music

  • and this story and the emotions of it.

  • KS: So when Neal Morse did transition from just "Neal Morse" to "Neal Morse Band", how

  • did that change for you creatively? How did you do drums in Neal Morse vs Neal Morse Band?

  • MP: Well, the drumming isn't changed. But it's the creative process that's very, very

  • different. For me the drumming is just a very very small bit of what I do but the creative

  • process changed immensely. With all the previous neal morse albums, you know, that I did from

  • 2002 through 2014 or so - those were Neals albums. His music, you know... Randy and I

  • would occasionally have a suggestion here or there but for the most part, you know,

  • Randy and I were just the drums and the bass and it was all Neals music but...

  • Neal put together this band. He did YouTube auditions back in 2014 or so, and that's where

  • he found Bill Hubauer and Eric Gillette as well as Adson [SodrĂ©] who was in the band

  • at that time. Yeah. But we went off on the momentum tour with this band, and it was just

  • such an amazing band. Like Bill plays every instrument from violin to clarinet to mandolin

  • to flute, you know... He's just an amazing all-round musician. And then Eric is this

  • crazy talent, like I mentioned already, you know, really reminds me of John in a lot of

  • respects in terms of his guitar playing. But he's also an incredible keyboard player, an

  • incredible drummer, incredible singer; he auditioned for Neal's band on every instrument

  • actually...

  • So anyway we have this... this great, great band and, you know, halfway through the momentum

  • tour Neal said: "you know, this is such a great band, it would be great to actually

  • utilize everybody's creativity and write together and have everybody singing, and you know"...

  • So that's when we decided to add the word "band" to "Neal Morse Band" - just that one

  • little word makes a huge difference because now, you know, we write the music together,

  • there's multiple singers, you know... Bill and Eric are doing a lot of lead vocals. I'm

  • doing a lot of singing. So the dynamic is very, very different from the older "Neal

  • Morse" albums.

  • KS: It's more fun this way?

  • MP: Uh, that's... You know, it's definitely more creative... Creatively satisfying...

  • But fun? I don't know... I have a different take on what makes a band fun. To me, sometimes

  • being in a band with four or five or six different chefs in the kitchen... It's great, it's a

  • great creative process, but it's also incredibly frustrating. Like, you know, in Dream Theater...

  • In all those years in Dream Theater I very much had a lot of creative control. And John

  • and I, you know, produced the albums together and then, you know, we wrote the music together...

  • But then from that point I had a lot of creative control and there's something to be said for...

  • The process is a lot easier that way, you know... After I left Dream Theater every band

  • I've done - Flying Colors, The Winery Dogs, Adrenaline Mob, Metal Allegiance, The Neal

  • Morse Band now - every one of these bands are kind of... you know... you know... democratic

  • bands where everybody has creative input, and... That's great because you get a little

  • bit of everybody in it but it's also very frustrating, you know... Like every single

  • aspect, there's like 100 emails, you know, and I'm in like 4-5 different bands at a time

  • so every question for every band branches off to million emails so that's not fun yes

  • not too much fun it's a lot easier when you can make a decision and just move forward...

  • KS: Especially when you want to be in control and you have that desire to kinda...

  • MP: Well, to be honest, after all those years of Dream Theater I was very happy to be, you

  • know, a team player and, you know, for The Winery Dogs and Flying Colors, you know, actually

  • I'm very comfortable being a team player. I think I have this reputation of being a

  • control freak, but no... I actually like working together. It just sometimes can be very frustrating

  • and sometimes makes things take 10 times longer than they need to. But yeah, in terms of is

  • it more fun for the Neal Morse Band to write together and make decisions together: It's

  • definitely a special band and, you know, a great, great chemistry.

  • KS: So do you follow newer progressive music? What's your take on branching off like Djent

  • or stuff... like more Jazzy influences?

  • MP: I love it! I mean, I... you know, uh, when I did those progressive nation towards

  • back in 2008-2009, the whole idea was to try to give some exposure to these bands like,

  • you know, Between the Buried and Me on the 2008 tour or Big Elf on the 2009 tour. You

  • know, those are... Right there two completely different types of progressive music, you

  • know, Big Elf is more more retro in the vein of Beatles, Pink Floyd and King Crimson whereas

  • Between the Buried and Me, you know, more in the djent kind of way. I love a lot of

  • these, you know, 8 string guitar bands like Periphery and Animals as Leaders and I...

  • You know, even my son's band Next to None is... Their new material is very, very much

  • in that vein. It's all detuned and a million time signatures and screamo vocals. To me

  • it's all part of the evolution of progressive music, you know, the word prog can mean anything

  • from Porcupine Tree to, you know, Periphery and I... I like it. I think it's important

  • for, you know, for the for the genre to do new things and not just be, you know, bands

  • that sound like Genesis and Yes, you know... I think it's important to have these kind

  • of heavy elements.

  • KS: Do you get inspired by that and want to create some...

  • MP: Oh, absolutely! To be honest I... I can't... It's already well beyond my abilities, you

  • know, even the stuff that my son Max is doing. He's outplaying me, you know, the drumming

  • on his upcoming album is insane, you know... Doing all these blast beats and... I can't

  • do things like that. I see all these YouTube drummers and players doing these... these

  • things that are way beyond my capabilities.

  • KS: So Max is the better drummer in the family, is that what you're saying?

  • MP: Well, technically? Possibly, yeah. You know...

  • KS: that's good, he has to have gotten it from somewhere

  • MP: Well, Drumming is all an evolution, you know, they're, you know... Max wouldn't be

  • doing what he's doing if it wasn't for him growing up listening to me and Chris Adler

  • and Joey Jordison. I wouldn't do what i do if it wasn't, you know, growing up listening

  • to Neil Peart; Neil Peart wouldn't be doing what he did if it wasn't, you know, growing

  • up listening to Keith Moon and Michael Giles... It's all... It's all that... The evolution

  • of drumming. And you know, you could say drummers today are technically better and faster and

  • more capable, but you know they would not be doing what they were doing if somehow Ringo

  • Starr didn't do it first 50 years ago, you know, so it's all about an evolution.

  • KS: And people always look like they're in the current and they're looking at the past

  • and looking at Ringo and "Oh, he's not a good drummer" and that's just false. Cause then

  • they're not looking at it from the period that he was in...

  • MP: Yeah, every, you know... Every band, Every drummer has its place in history and it's

  • all an evolution. You know, I grew up with the Beatles of Pink Floyd and Kiss and none

  • of those drummers are necessarily technical, but they were a big part of shaping who I

  • am.

  • KS: So what's your take... this is actually the 25th year since images and words were

  • released, that means for you this has been 25 years where you can actually call music

  • your full time career. You couldn't do that with When Dream And Day Unite, how has music