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  • Welcome to Gospel Solutions for Families.

  • I'm your host, Amy Iverson.

  • The scriptures remind us over and over to wait upon the Lord.

  • Former Apostle Elder Neal A. Maxwell put it this way:

  • "Faith in God includes faith in His timing."

  • If you've ever wondered about the Lord's timing in your life,

  • you'll want to join us today.

  • I'll be talking with Lisa Lund.

  • In 2004, Lisa married Russell Lund.

  • Today, hanging on a sign in Lisa's home is this quote:

  • "Once in a while, right in the middle of an ordinary life,

  • love gives you a fairy tale."

  • Lisa's fairy tale didn't come the way she expected.

  • Her fairy tale took faith in the Lord's timing.

  • So Lisa, you, growing up, I feel like,

  • had a very early dose of thinking fairy tales happen.

  • And a big part of that was because of your parents--

  • Absolutely.

  • --even the way they joined the Church.

  • Tell that story.

  • My parents met at Bradley University in Peoria, Illinois.

  • And when they got to the point where

  • they were deciding that they wanted to get married,

  • my dad asked my mom, "Would you investigate the Mormon Church

  • with me?"

  • And my mom said, "Yes, I'd be happy to do that,

  • as long as you would investigate the Catholic church."

  • That's fair.

  • She had been raised Catholic; he really

  • hadn't been raised with religion.

  • But the story goes back 10 years earlier,

  • when my dad with his family came from Illinois.

  • And they went across the United States

  • just on a summer vacation.

  • And my grandma really wanted to see the Mormon Tabernacle

  • Choir, so they stopped at Temple Square.

  • And as they were finishing that tour,

  • and they were leaving to get back in their car,

  • my grandma tells the story that my dad, at 14,

  • turned around and said, "I don't know about the rest of you,

  • but someday I'm going to be a Mormon."

  • Just from the Mormon Tabernacle Choir.

  • Yes, just from being on Temple Square, the Spirit he felt.

  • It was 10 years later that that conversation

  • happened with my parents as to, would my mom

  • investigate the Church.

  • And my mom tells the story that when the missionaries were

  • talking to them, instantly my dad knew

  • he wanted to join the Church.

  • My mom was a little bit more hesitant.

  • She calls herself more of the stubborn side

  • of the relationship.

  • And it wasn't until they started talking about families being

  • together forever--she said that's when the Spirit told her

  • this was right.

  • And they were married in 1959 in the Peoria, Illinois, church.

  • And it was about three years after that when my sister

  • and I--Lynn was two and a half; I would have been one

  • and a half--that they came to Utah and we were sealed

  • as a family.

  • And what's really special about that is,

  • your mom really must have been close to the Spirit

  • to have the fact of forever families

  • be the thing that touched her, because of a tragedy that

  • happened later.

  • Right, it was.

  • When I was nine, I had just finished the third grade.

  • And it had been the best year ever,

  • that when I finished school, Mrs.

  • Jimas, my third-grade teacher, had written on my report card,

  • "When this little girl goes, a part of my heart

  • goes with her."

  • And I felt the same way about her.

  • It had been the best year.

  • And we were planning our annual summer vacation

  • to go back to Illinois.

  • We had moved to Utah, and we were

  • planning our summer vacation to go back to Illinois.

  • And my dad left for work on June 1, and he never came home.

  • He was killed in a car accident.

  • And overnight our world went from being,

  • I would consider, perfect to "What's going to happen now?"

  • My mom had four little kids--a 10-year-old, a 9-year-old,

  • a 6-year-old, and a 3-month-old.

  • It had only been four years before that

  • that they had moved from Illinois to Utah.

  • My dad had been recruited by ZCMI

  • to come out and be in charge of their advertising department.

  • And now she was left with four little kids,

  • and the closest relative was 1,500 miles away.

  • But they had made the decision to raise their family in Utah,

  • and she stayed.

  • She had the faith to know this is where

  • she wanted to raise her family.

  • The morning after the accident, she gathered the four of us

  • together and told us what had happened.

  • And you think of someone, 34 years old--she had been

  • a stay-at-home mom for 12 years, and instantly her world was

  • turned upside down.

  • And she had the faith to gather her little family

  • and kneel down and pray for the years

  • we had been together as a family and that we all

  • needed to live our lives that someday we

  • can be reunited again.

  • Well, she became your hero.

  • Absolutely, absolutely.

  • And now she's 81 years old, this cute little

  • short Italian woman.

  • And she is.

  • She is one of my greatest heroes.

  • So an eventful childhood for your family.

  • And as you grew older, your mom played

  • another role when we're talking about fairy tales,

  • because your sister became engaged, your younger sister.

  • My older sister.

  • Oh, your older sister, OK.

  • And your mom was a little worried about money.

  • So tell that wedding dress story, because that is a hoot.

  • Yes.

  • Lynn and Kirby got engaged.

  • And Lynn and I are just 14 months apart in age.

  • And my mom told us that she was on a tight budget.

  • And she knew we would be getting married close together,

  • and so we needed to pick out a wedding dress together.

  • And so we went shopping together,

  • found a beautiful wedding dress that Lynn

  • wore when she got married.

  • That was in 1981.

  • I got married in 2004.

  • [LAUGHS] So you didn't wear the dress.

  • So not only was the dress not in style,

  • but I couldn't have fit in it.

  • So that's in your 20s, when your sister gets married.

  • And in my life, anyway, that's when most of my friends

  • were married.

  • That's college time.

  • Exactly.

  • And it didn't happen for you in your 20s.

  • What were you feeling at that time?

  • You know what?

  • There are choices and consequences

  • that come from those choices.

  • And a big part of it is because of choices I had made.

  • And I think that I can look back and say, "I wish."

  • But my life was a wonderful life.

  • I've had wonderful opportunities.

  • I never looked at it as, "Why me?"

  • There were times--a dear friend of mine called me up and told

  • me that she was engaged.

  • And I was so excited for her, but I said,

  • "Let me call you back."

  • I hung up the phone, and I cried.

  • Not--I was so excited for her.

  • But it was one more friend getting married, and I wasn't.

  • And I think part of it was choices, consequences,

  • and feeling like, "Have I put the Atonement in place

  • for myself?"

  • And did you realize that was the case in your 20s?

  • Or has that come over time?

  • I think it's come over time, to realize

  • that I needed to be able to put the past behind me,

  • that I had been forgiven of things.

  • But had I forgiven myself?

  • Had I realized that the Atonement was not just

  • for everyone else, but for me?

  • And so you felt like that was a barrier

  • to you and relationships.

  • Absolutely.

  • So in your 20s, you had a little conflict of emotion,

  • it sounds like.

  • And then your 30s came, and you still

  • hadn't found the love of your life.

  • Right.