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>> Jimmy: HOW ARE YOU?
>> I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD, I'M GOOD.
>> Jimmy: THANKS FOR COMING.
I HAVE SO MANY QUESTIONS FOR
YOU.
IT'S WEIRD TO SEE YOU IN GREEN,
THOUGH, I HAVE TO SAY.
IT'S LIKE IT'S UPSETTING IN A
WAY.
>> WELL, MAYBE I JUST WANT TO
PAY, YOU KNOW, A LITTLE HOMAGE
TO LARRY BIRD.
>> Jimmy: YEAH, YEAH.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
OR HOMAGE TO ALL THE MONEY YOU
JUST GAVE LeBRON.
>> WE GAVE HIM A LOT.
>> Jimmy: YEAH, RIGHT, YOU DID.
>> THE LAST TIME I WAS HERE, I
GOT IN TROUBLE.
>> Jimmy: I KNOW.
>> MAKE SURE I DON'T GET IN
TROUBLE TODAY.
>> Jimmy: YOU KNOW, I GOT IN
TROUBLE TOO.
PEOPLE WERE MAD AT ME BECAUSE
THERE WAS A FINE ASSESSED.
THE LEAGUE TAKES THESE FREE
AGENT CONVERSATIONS VERY
SERIOUSLY.
>> $500,000.
>> Jimmy: $500,000 AS A RESULT
OF YOUR APPEARANCE ON THIS SHOW.
>> AND WE HAVE A GOOD TIME TOO.
[ LAUGHTER ]
BUT THE THING I WOULD MAD AT,
EVERYBODY OUT HERE, JIMMY DIDN'T
CALL ME TO SAY, HEY, I'MA THROW
IN $100,000, $3 200,000.
>> Jimmy: NO.
>> I THOUGHT YOU WERE GOING TO
CALL SAYING, I'M GOING TO HELP
YOU OUT.
>> Jimmy: YEAH, NO.
WELL, DON'T YOU GET LIKE $800
FOR BEING HERE?
[ LAUGHTER ]
THAT'S MY CONTRIBUTION.
>> OKAY, YOU MADE YOUR
CONTRIBUTION THAT WAY.
>> Jimmy: A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO
YOU ANNOUNCED IF YOU WERE UNABLE
AS PRESIDENT OF BASKETBALL
OPERATIONS TO BRING A MAJOR FREE
AGENT TO THE LAKERS, YOU WOULD
QUIT, YOU WOULD RESIGN, YOU
WOULD CONSIDER YOURSELF TO BE A
FAILURE.
AT THAT TIME DID YOU HAVE A GOOD
IDEA THAT YOU WERE GOING TO GET
LeBRON?
>> NO.
>> Jimmy: YOU DID NOT.
>> NO.
BUT I HAD CONFIDENCE IN MYSELF
AND ALSO THE LAKER BRAND, THE
LAKER YOUNG PLAYERS THAT WE
HAVE.
LUKE WALTON AS THE COACH.
YOU KNOW, ROB POLINKA AND I WILL
DO OUR HOMEWORK, AND WE REALLY
THOUGHT WE HAD A GREAT PLAN TO
INTRODUCE TO LeBRON.
WHEN YOU GOT AN OWNER LIKE
JEANIE BUSS, I THINK ALL THOSE
THINGS -- I THINK WE HAD A
STRONG ARGUMENT TO HIM TO COME
JOIN THE LAKERS.
AND SO I COULDN'T WAIT TO GET IN
FRONT OF HIM BECAUSE I HAD
WATCHED ALL THE FILM ON HIM WHEN
HE WAS WITH CLEVELAND, THE FIRST
TIME, WHEN HE WAS WITH MIAMI,
THEN WHEN HE WENT BACK TO
CLEVELAND.
SO I HAD A SENSE OF HIS GAME.
AND WHAT HE WANTED IN TERMS OF
WHAT HE WAS LOOKING FOR.
BUT I HAD TO GET IN FRONT OF HIM
TO JUST --
>> Jimmy: SELL HIM ON IT?
>> WHERE WE ARE, THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Jimmy: IT'S INTERESTING HOW
IT WORKS.
YOU MENTIONED THAT FINE.
BECAUSE THE RULES ARE VERY
STRICT.
AT 9:01 P.M., THAT'S ON JUNE
30th, THAT'S WHEN YOU ARE ABLE
TO START SPEAKING TO LeBRON.
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
>> Jimmy: NOT A MINUTE BEFORE
THAT.
>> NOT A MINUTE BEFORE.
>> Jimmy: YOU DO GO TO HIS
HOUSE.
DID HE INVITE YOU TO HIS HOUSE.
DO YOU CALL AND SAY, I'D LIKE TO
COME TO YOUR HOUSE?
>> THAT'S GOOD.
[ LAUGHTER ]
YEAH WE HAD TO CALL AND ASK FOR
PERMISSION.
>> Jimmy: I SEE, YES.
>> TO HAVE A MEETING.
BUT ROB CALLED, HIS AGENT.
AND WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT RICH
PAWS, HIS AGENT.
WE TALKED AND SAID LeBRON WOULD
LOVE TO HAVE A MEETING WITH THE
LAKERS BUT HE WANTS TO HAVE IT
WITH MAGIC SO THAT'S WHAT
HAPPENED.
>> Jimmy: THEN WERE YOU EXCITED?
GREAT, I GET TO BE IN THERE BY
MYSELF?
OR DID YOU RATHER ROB WAS THERE,
THE WHOLE TEAM WAS THERE?
>> I WAS READY, MAN.
>> Jimmy: YOU WERE READY TO DO
IT.
>> YEAH, YEAH.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
I WORK BEST BY MYSELF.
I SHOWED UP AT 8:00.
>> Jimmy: YOU SHOWED UP AT 8:00.
BEFORE YOU TOOK THIS MEETING
WITH LeBRON, DID YOU SPEAK TO
LONZO BALL'S FATHER TO MAKE SURE
IT WAS OKAY?
[ LAUGHTER ]
OKAY TO RECRUIT HIM TO BE A PART
OF THE TEAM?
>> I WOULD HAVE CALLED YOU FIRST
BEFORE I CALLED LAVAR BALL,
TRUST ME.
[ CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ]
NO, I DIDN'T CALLA VAUR.
>> Jimmy: YOU DID NOT CALL,
OKAY.
>> NO, AND ASK PERMISSION.
SO I GOT TO 8:00 --
>> Jimmy: YOU'RE AN HOUR EARLY,
WHAT DID YOU DO, SIT IN THE CAR?
>> THAT'S RIGHT.
I'M AN ON-TIME GUY.
I WAS JUST HOPING THAT I DIDN'T
HAVE TO GO TO THE BATHROOM.
I WAS LIKE, OKAY.
>> Jimmy: IT WOULD BE A WEIRD
WAY TO START.
>> EXACTLY.
I WOULD HAVE GOT FINED BECAUSE I
HAD TO GO EARLY, RIGHT?
>> Jimmy: YEAH, RIGHT.
THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANPEE, YEA.
YOU GET TO LeBRON'S HOUSE.
>> I'M SITTING OUT THERE.
I WAIT FOR 9:00.
SO AT 9:00 I INCH TO THE GHATE.
>> Jimmy: OKAY.
>> I DON'T RING THE BUZZER TILL
9:01.
>> Jimmy: THEY REALLY HAVE YOU
PARANOID.
>> OH, MAN.
THEY HAD ME SO SCARED.
>> Jimmy: IT'S CRAZY.
>> BECAUSE YOUR HALF MILLION
DOLLARS I WAS THINKING ABOUT
THAT.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Jimmy: YEAH.
AND IT WASN'T LIKE THAT BACK
WHEN YOU WERE --
>> NO.
>> Jimmy: -- PLAYING, RIGHT?
IT WAS DIFFERENT.
>> IT'S DIFFERENT NOW.
>> Jimmy: YOU SIT DOWN WITH
LeBRON.
AND HOW DO YOU OPEN IT?
LIKE HOW DO YOU START?
DOES HE START, DO YOU START?
>> OF COURSE HE GREETED ME AT
THE DOOR.
WE SAT DOWN.
AND I TELL YOU SOMETHING, JIMMY.
THIS GUY IS SO SMART.
>> Jimmy: WHAT WAS HE WEARING?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> THERE'S SOME SHORTS, YOU
KNOW.
HE HAD ON HIS LeBRON NIKE GEAR.
>> Jimmy: OKAY, ALL RIGHT.
>> AND LOOKING VERY SHARP.
>> Jimmy: GOTCHA.
>> YOU KNOW.
VERY RELAXED.
>> Jimmy: UH-HUH.
>> WE JUST, YOU KNOW, STARTED
TALKING ABOUT HOW WE BOTH GREW
UP, FIRST.
AND HOW WE HAD PROBABLY THE SAME
EXPECTATIONS OF, YOU KNOW,
PEOPLE EXPECTED US TO WIN AND BE
GOOD AND WE BOTH MIDWEST BOYS,
HIM FROM OHIO, ME FROM MICHIGAN.
WE STARTED THAT DIRECTION.
THEN WE HEADED TOWARD THE
LAKERS.
AND HE BROKE DOWN EVERY PLAYER
ON OUR TEAM.
THEIR STRENGTH AND WEAKNESSES.
HE ALREADY KNEW, YOU KNOW, THE
GUYS ON OUR TEAM.
>> Jimmy: YOU WERE IMPRESSED BY
THAT?
>> I WAS VERY IMPRESSED WITH
THAT.
THE FACT THAT HE KNEW HE COULD
FIT INTO THIS YOUNG CORE THAT WE
HAD.
AND SO WE JUST STARTED A
DIALOGUE.
AND BEFORE WE KNEW IT, YOU KNOW,
TWO HOURS HAD PASSED ALREADY.
BUT IT WAS A LOT OF LAKER
EXPECTATIONS AND OFFENSE,
DEFENSE, YOU KNOW.
HOW HE LIKES TO PLAY.
AND WHAT WAS GREAT IS THIS IS
HOW HE WANTS TO PLAY TODAY.
RIGHT?
THE WAY THE LAKERS PLAY, WITH
PACE.
HE'S GOING TO REALLY TAKE OUR
PLAYERS TO THIS LEVEL.
>> Jimmy: SURE HE IS.
>> MAKE THEM SO MUCH BETTER.
>> Jimmy: 24 HOURS AFTER THAT
GOLDEN STATE, WHICH THEY ALREADY
HAVE THIS UNBELIEVABLE TEAM,
THEY SIGN DeMARCUS COUSINS,
WHO'S ANOTHER ALL-STAR.
>> RIGHT.
>> Jimmy: IS THAT DISPIRITING
WHEN YOU HEAR THAT?
>> NO, NO, I LOVE COMPETITION.
I LOVE CHASING THE BEST.
THEY'RE THE BEST, SO WE'LL LOOK
FORWARD TO PLAYING AGAINST THEM.
>> Jimmy: I SEE.
DO YOU THINK AT THIS POINT THE
LAKERS, THE WAY THE TEAM IS
SITUATED RIGHT NOW, COULD BEAT
GOLDEN STATE?
>> I THINK, YOU KNOW, WE WILL
LOOK FORWARD TO THAT CHALLENGE,
RIGHT?
EVERYBODY EXPECTS GOLDEN STATE
TO WIN AGAIN.
BUT I WOULD LOVE TO HAVE THE
CHALLENGE AND TO PLAY THEM IN
THE WESTERN CONFERENCE FINALS.
>> Jimmy: RIGHT.
>> IF WE COULD GET TO THAT
POSITION.
SO I'M NOT -- I'M A COMPETITOR.
SO I'M NOT SCARED OF GOLDEN
STATE.
I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT GOLDEN
STATE.
THEY DON'T KEEP ME UP AT NIGHT.
I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A REALLY
SOLID TEAM, A GOOD TEAM, A
COMPETITIVE TEAM, AND A
TOUGH-MINDED TEAM.
AND WE GOT GUYS NOW WHO ARE
WINNERS.
LeBRON JAMES BRINGS A
CHAMPIONSHIP MENTALITY TO OUR
TEAM.
SO DOES RONDO.
HE'S WON A CHAMPIONSHIP WITH
BOSTON.
>> Jimmy: SURE, YEAH.
>> AND THEN JaVALE McGEE, WHO
USED TO PLAY FOR GOLDEN STATE,
HE'S WON TWO CHAMPIONSHIPS.
>> Jimmy: BEFORE YOU SIGN THESE
GUYS, DO YOU TALK TO LeBRON
ABOUT IT?
>> OH, FOR SURE.
>> Jimmy: YOU DO.
>> FOR SURE.
>> Jimmy: THAT WAS A COURTESY
THAT WAS EXTENDED TO YOU AS
WELL?
>> EXACTLY.
DR. BUSS, BEFORE WE MADE MOVES,
HE WOULD ALWAYS COME TO ME WHAT
DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS GUY?
WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THIS
TRADE?
AND SO I WANT TO MAKE SURE I DO
THE SAME.
BECAUSE LeBRON HAS PLAYED
AGAINST THESE GUYS.
SO HE KNOWS THEM EVEN BETTER
THAN MYSELF.
>> Jimmy: RIGHT, YEAH.
>> HE KNOWS WHAT'S UP HERE, HE
KNOWS WHAT'S IN HERE.
THAT'S IMPORTANT, TO KNOW IF
THEY'RE SMART, IF THEY'RE TOUGH,
IF THEY'RE TOUGH-MINDED, THAT'S
IMPORTANT.
>> Jimmy: DENZEL WASHINGTON WAS
HERE LAST WEEK.
AND I WAS ASKING HIM, HE'S
OBVIOUSLY A LAKERS FAN.
I ASKED HIM IF HE CALLED YOU
AFTER THE LAKERS SIGNED LeBRON.
HE SAID HE DID CALL YOU AND YOU
RUSHED HIM OFF THE TELEPHONE.
>> YOU KNOW I LOVE DENZEL.
>> Jimmy: WHO DOESN'T LOVE
DENZEL?
>> I HELPED DENZEL GET HIS
SEASON TICKETS ON THE FLOOR
THERE, RIGHT?
LONG, LONG TIME AGO.
>> Jimmy: HE NEEDED HELP?
>> OH, YEAH, YEAH, YEAH.
>> Jimmy: REALLY?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> HE NEEDED HELP, YOU KNOW.
I HELPED HIM OUT, YOU KNOW.
TOLD HIM TO CALL DR. BUSS, THAT
WHOLE THING.
>> Jimmy: WHO ELSE CALLED YOU?
>> EVERYBODY.
>> Jimmy: JACK NICHOLSON?
>> EVERYBODY.
>> Jimmy: POPE FRANCIS, DID HE
MAKE A PHONE CALL?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> EVERYBODY BUT THE POPE.
BUT I SAID SOME PRAYERS.
SO HOPEFULLY THE POPE PUT THEM
UP TO GOD FOR ME TO GET LeBRON.
>> Jimmy: HONESTLY, DID YOU AT
ANY POINT STOP AND PRAY THAT GOD
WOULD BRING YOU LeBRON JAMES TO
YOUR TEAM?
>> NO, I DIDN'T PRAY FOR LeBRON.
BUT I PRAYED FOR SUCCESS IN FREE
AGENCY.
>> Jimmy: YOU DID.
[ APPLAUSE ]
>> SO, YOU KNOW -- LISTEN, THIS
HAS CHANGED THE NBA FOR THE
BETTER.
IT HAS CHANGED LOS ANGELES AND
LAKER NATION FOR THE BETTER.
>> Jimmy: IT HAS CHANGED
CLEVELAND FOR THE MUCH WORSE.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> WELL, BUT YOU KNOW WHAT?
YOU GOT TO GIVE HIM CREDIT.
HE BROUGHT THEM THE
CHAMPIONSHIP.
>> Jimmy: HE CERTAINLY DID.
>> HE DELIVERED TO CLEVELAND.
>> Jimmy: AND I REMEMBER
SOMETHING THAT LeBRON TOLD ME
MANY YEARS AGO WHEN WE HOSTED
THE ESPYs TOGETHER.
AFTER WHEN PEOPLE WERE SO UPSET
WITH HIM FOR LEAVING CLEVELAND.
HE SAID, I'M FROM AKRON.
I'M NOT FROM CLEVELAND.
THEY MAKE FUN OF US HERE.
YOU KNOW?
AND I THOUGHT THAT WAS
INTERESTING.
>> BUT HE'S -- LISTEN.
HE IS A WONDERFUL MAN.
SMART.
HE'S A BUSINESSMAN AS WELL.
OWNS SOCCER TEAMS.
OWNED DIFFERENT BUSINESSES.
PIZZA, ON AND ON AND ON.
>> Jimmy: YES, HE'S VERY RICH.
>> YES, YES.
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> Jimmy: DID YOU SAY TO HIM,
YOU'RE LOADED, YOU'VE GOT SOCCER
TEAMS, PIZZA, MAYBE WE CAN DO
THIS FOR HALF PRICE?
[ LAUGHTER ]
>> I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO GET
A DISCOUNT, I DIDN'T GET ONE.
>> Jimmy: YOU DIDN'T ASK.
YOU'VE GOT TO ASK FOR THAT
DISCOUNT.
>> YOU KNOW WHAT, I WANTED HIM
SO BAD, I DIDN'T WANT WHEN TO
MESS UP.
>> Jimmy: RIGHT, YEAH.
NO, YOU DON'T WANT TO MESS UP
SOMETHING LIKE THAT.
>> NO, NO, LeBRON, I'MA PAY YOU
WHATEVER YOU WANT.