It's Feifei here.

And hello, it's Rob here too. Oh Feifei, why the glum face?

I didn't get it.

Get it?

I didn't get the job.

Oh yes yes, the job. You went for a new job, one you really really wanted, one that you said would be perfect for you.

Clearly I'm not. Look at this rejection letter, it says I did not have enough experience.

How dare they! But if I don't do the job, how do I get the experience?

Oh dear, it sounds like catch-22.

Catch-22? Is that some kind of qualification I need?

Nope, it just describes a situation where you can't win.

Basically, you can't do one thing until you've done another thing which you can't do until you've done the first thing.

So it's an impossible situation.

It is. Let's hear some examples of this phrase in action.

I need my parents' car, but my mum says I need permission from my dad, then my dad says I need permission from my mum.

I can't get permission from either.

So I'm in a catch-22 situation.

To apply for a short-term student visa to study English in the UK, you have to be able to speak some English, but you want to come to England to learn English!

It's catch-22 for many potential students.

You're listening to The English We Speak and Rob has told me I'm in a catch-22 situation.

That's a situation I cannot win.

Yes Feifei, so you can't get a new job without some experience of doing it, but you can't get the experience without doing the job.

So it's catch-22 !

It's a strange phrase, Rob.

Yes, it comes from the title of a book, Catch-22, written by Joseph Heller in 1961, which describes bureaucratic constraints on soldiers in World War II.

But look Feifei, don't be too sad about the job, you've got plenty of experience for doing this job.

That's because I've been here for 40 years!

Oh, yes. But we respect you for expertise, especially in one task.

What's that?

Making the tea. Now could you put the kettle on please?

Oh, I really need a new job.

Bye.

Bye.