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  • SPEAKER 1: Thank you all for coming.

  • I'm thrilled to be welcoming Kelly LeVeque to Google

  • today to talk about her wellness approach and her new book "Body

  • Love."

  • So Kelly, if you don't know, is a wellness expert,

  • nutritionist.

  • You have from many certifications--

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Too many.

  • SPEAKER 1: --under your belt. But I really

  • connected when I learned about Kelly

  • with her scientific approach to health and wellness

  • and nutrition, and just found it really fascinating.

  • And kind of for me-- cut through a lot

  • of the clutter that's out there and just confusion

  • around what advice to listen to-- so super excited

  • to have her here.

  • And just to kick off, Kelly, you have a really unique approach.

  • And you love using scientific studies,

  • evidence-based nutrition.

  • So can you tell us a bit about how you developed that strategy

  • and what led you to your overall nutrition philosophy?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Sure, so I'd have to take you guys all back

  • to the beginning of my career.

  • I had an eight year career in cancer and genetics

  • where my job everyday was to read studies and determine

  • if they were biased or unbiased, if they had

  • significant p-values like how many people were involved

  • in this study.

  • Who was funding it?

  • What was the goal?

  • And was it correlation versus causation?

  • Which you find a lot in nutrition studies,

  • because if you think about it, it's

  • really hard to determine if an apple a day is good for you

  • if one person's eating cheeseburger,

  • another person's eating fries, and another person's

  • having a Fab Four smoothie instead.

  • But what it was for me was always a passion, always

  • something that I've loved.

  • So I've loved health and nutrition

  • since I was probably 13 or 14 years old.

  • I was that girl who read diet books in high school when--

  • I mean we joked about this when I got here--

  • when I was not allowed to watch "The Simpsons" or "90210."

  • But I was allowed to read those books.

  • And it was something that obviously was a hobby

  • and then became more.

  • Because what I was able to do once

  • I learned how to read those studies and go into--

  • you guys have Google Scholar, which I love.

  • It's a great place to find studies.

  • I can look up what I'm--

  • something that I'm searching for whether it's the benefits

  • of curcumin, which is the active ingredient in turmeric.

  • Or what's better, two meals a day or six?

  • There's a lot you can get from the research.

  • And understanding how to read the research

  • allowed me to just mine that nutrition knowledge and figure

  • out what I thought was the most important.

  • And what I kept finding was that there

  • were a lot of things that overlapped.

  • Whether you're eating a Mediterranean

  • diet, or an Atkins diet, or a paleo diet, or a Keto diet,

  • or your blood sugar balance, or you were Weight Watchers,

  • I kind of just didn't want the eat and do not eat list.

  • I just wanted to understand the science

  • and say, how am I going to feel my best.

  • How am I going to stay fueled?

  • How am I going to stop snacking on junk

  • when I wanted to reach for Goldfish?

  • I grew up on Goldfish.

  • Those are great.

  • But for me it was really trying to decipher what was

  • the most important thing here.

  • And that came down to what do your--

  • what do your cells need to proliferate?

  • Because your body is constantly breaking itself

  • down and rebuilding itself.

  • You rebuild your body about nine times over your life.

  • So I wanted to know what did my cells need.

  • And then what's going to make me feel my best

  • and perform and function my best?

  • And so that's kind of what led me to my philosophy, which

  • is a light structure around eating that isn't an eat

  • and do not eat list.

  • Because I think for a lot of people who decide,

  • oh, I'm never going to eat rice again, well, what

  • happens when you go on a trip with your husband

  • to Japan, like I just went.

  • Am I not going to have sushi?

  • Of course I'm going to have sushi.

  • But it's understanding well, what

  • do these macronutrients do?

  • How do they break down in my body?

  • How do they make me feel?

  • And making choices around food based on that knowledge--

  • so that's also kind of how it all happened.

  • SPEAKER 1: So coming out of learning all that research,

  • what are some of the biggest biological takeaways that you

  • want to communicate to men and women?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Sure, well a lot of you guys

  • got a copy of my book.

  • And I talk about something called the Fab Four,

  • which are, I think, the four categories that I think

  • are important for you to be aware of,

  • the first being protein, the second being fat,

  • the third being fiber, and the fourth being greens.

  • And by greens I mean vegetables like leafy greens, things

  • deep in color.

  • And the reason for that is that you

  • have essential amino acids, which are from protein,

  • that your body needs.

  • You have protein stores in your body

  • that are used to rebuild these cells that we break down.

  • The programmed cell death is apoptosis.

  • So if your body says, oh, this cell is not functioning right,

  • you'll kill it off.

  • You'll rebuild it.

  • And that's what I was talking about when

  • I said your body breaks itself down and rebuilds itself.

  • So you need protein to do that.

  • I don't by any means think that you need 200 grams a day.

  • If you're on a bodybuilding website,

  • that might be the recommendation,

  • but something around 20 to 30 grams at each meal.

  • And there are going to be meals where there are less.

  • And there are going to be meals where there are more--

  • but just to keep those stores up.

  • Fat-- I think fat is really important.

  • And I think there was a big period of time where

  • people ditched fat, because it's higher in calories per gram.

  • And if you're a calorie counter, that's

  • a really easy way to cut calories, right.

  • But when it comes to satiety and feeling full and calm,

  • which is so much about my philosophy--

  • I'm just all about eating food that turn off--

  • turns off hunger hormones so you don't have to think about food.

  • Fat is really good at doing that.

  • When you eat fat, your body releases

  • a hormone called cholecystokinin,

  • which is a really strong satiety hormone.

  • I mean think about it.

  • If you're going to have chicken and steamed

  • broccoli versus chicken, broccoli, and a pesto sauce,

  • I mean obviously you're going to feel a lot more satisfied when

  • you're adding fat to that.

  • And that's also going to slow the digestion of that meal

  • and elongate your blood sugar curve,

  • so we aren't reaching for snacks,

  • which is another thing that I like people to do--

  • is add to their plate instead of depriving themselves.

  • And things to make something last longer in your body.

  • And fat does a really good job of helping you absorb all

  • of your fat soluble vitamins.

  • There was a study that came out on avocados.

  • And by adding avocados to a salad,

  • you're actually increasing phytochemical absorption

  • by over 300%.

  • So when you think about those nutrients

  • that you're trying to get, those anti-oxidants

  • that are fighting the oxidative stress of day-to-day life,

  • you're not going to get there without the fat.

  • So I love fat.

  • And then fiber and greens comes down to your microbiome.

  • It comes down to detoxification.

  • It comes down to feeling full.

  • So the physical stretching of your stomach does something.

  • It helps your body with the hormone called ghrelin.

  • And ghrelin I like to think of the gorilla hormone.

  • If you don't have that physical stretch of your stomach,

  • you're going to be starving.

  • You just want to eat all day long just grabbing for another

  • leaf, but-- or hopefully a leaf--

  • sometimes not-- but the real stretching of your stomach.

  • So when we grab a green juice--

  • I know juicing became really popular.

  • Grabbing a green juice, you're not really turning off

  • that hunger hormone.

  • So you're going to be hungry later.

  • And then the greens, specifically leafy greens,

  • great source of fiber, great source of phytochemicals.

  • But also the source of a sugar, a sulfur-based sugar that

  • feeds your probiotic bacteria.

  • So when you think about all of the gut

  • bacteria in your body, 10 cells of bacteria

  • to every human cell on your body,

  • you want to make sure that that's proliferating

  • and that you're just really a walking around ecosystem

  • of bacteria that's giving off gases, free fatty

  • acids, and things that tell your genes what to do.

  • So for longevity purposes, detoxification purposes,

  • whenever you can say, I'll just add a cup of spinach

  • to that smoothie, or I'll get a side salad to start my meal,

  • I mean it's a great way to stay full.

  • It's a great way to get really good nutrients, too.

  • So those four things, I think, is my way

  • of helping people turn off hunger hormones

  • and elongate their blood sugar curve

  • and eat an anti-inflammatory diet.

  • So instead of just saying, oh, I can't have this anymore.

  • And I can't have that anymore.

  • And I'm not having gluten, or I'm not having dairy,

  • or I'm not--

  • it's a lot of "I'm not," which creates a lot of food drama.

  • I like to say, OK, look at my plate.

  • Do I have a good source of healthy fat?

  • Can I add olive oil or avocado to this?

  • Can I add slivered nuts to this so

  • that it will make me feel a little more full.

  • So that 3 o'clock doesn't roll around and I don't go, oh,

  • is it time for a brownie?

  • Because we're all going to get that depressed feeling around 3

  • or 4 o'clock where a coffee, a brownie,

  • a cookie sounds awesome, and that's a hormonal thing

  • that's happening inside of you.

  • It's also due to the fact that whatever you had at lunch,

  • your blood sugar can go up and come down on average

  • about three hours.

  • So depending on when you eat lunch between 12:00 and 1:00,

  • that crash is going to happen.

  • And if we can elongate that window,

  • you don't have that crash.

  • And we can be aware of the way that we're hormonally

  • going to react at that time.

  • We can have strategies to deal with it, move through it,

  • and hopefully continue to eat clean.

  • SPEAKER 1: Yeah, so what are your top tips then

  • for elongating that blood sugar curve.

  • You touched on your Fab Four items.

  • But how does that actually play out in our bodies?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Right, so if any one of you guys have heard--

  • for example, if you had a sweet potato, or you

  • had a sweet potato with coconut oil, or almond butter,

  • or grass-fed butter on it.

  • The actual adding of fat slows down

  • the digestion and breakdown of your food.

  • And when you add greens and fiber, the breaking-- your body

  • has to physically digest those things.

  • And your digestion happens with two chemical byproducts,

  • hydrochloric acid.

  • Which if you have acid reflux, that's that feeling, right.

  • That's the acid.

  • You want that acid.

  • It's really, really good.

  • Actually, a lot of time when people have acid reflux,

  • we're finding that they actually have not enough acid

  • to bring their stomach acid down low enough

  • to shut the sphincter between your esophagus

  • and your stomach.

  • So would be interesting, if you do

  • have that issue, to talk to a functional medicine MD

  • and see if you can add a little hydrochloric acid to your diet.

  • And the other thing is enzymes.

  • So think about everything that you eat.

  • It needs to be digested like a brick wall.

  • And enzymes and hydrochloric acid dissolve the mortar.

  • And you absorb brick by brick or nutrient by nutrient.

  • So the more that you can add fiber and fat

  • to your meal, the slower that digestion happens,

  • and the longer you feel fueled and satisfied.

  • SPEAKER 1: That's great.

  • So here at Google we're presented with a really unique

  • food challenge.

  • Food is basically everywhere.

  • We're never more than a hundred feet away.

  • Most Googlers eat about two meals a day here.

  • Plus we have kitchens with snacks all the time.

  • So what do you think is a good, smart approach to buffet style

  • eating, constant presence of food situations?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, I mean you guys are definitely--

  • we call it-- well, you can call it a perk.

  • Or we can call it a challenge.

  • I think if I was here, I would be like, it's a perk.

  • Oh my gosh, it's a challenge, because it's almost like you

  • guys are on a cruise ship 24/7 or back

  • in college with the meal card.

  • I think you really have to focus on your hormones.

  • You really have to focus on shutting down those hunger

  • hormones early.

  • And I will say, I do have clients

  • that were in LA that work at Google,

  • that work at Netflix, that work at Facebook.

  • And they're challenged with these same type of perks.

  • And the thing that I would say is

  • it's probably really important that you fuel up

  • with a good breakfast.

  • And I talk a lot about the Fab Four smoothie in my book.

  • And what I talk about is that it does a really good job

  • of keeping people full, sometimes until 1:00 or 2:00

  • in the afternoon where they're not thinking about food.

  • Which is interesting, because a lot of times when people

  • have the opportunity to come in and have a buffet,

  • they decide--

  • they opt out of breakfast.

  • And they decide, oh, I'll just--

  • we get free food at work.

  • So I'll just wait until we're eating at work.

  • And then if you are getting to a place

  • where you're so hungry by the time lunch

  • rolls around, that hunger can really

  • derail those healthy choices.

  • Because when have you ever when you're starving,

  • and you're trying to make a healthy decision,

  • you order a salad.

  • And it comes with a French baguette.

  • And you're that hungry.

  • Odds are you're probably going to go for it.

  • So my advice would be know who you are.

  • Know how hunger affects you.

  • And if you can, if you're the person who ends up

  • over eating because they've waited too long,

  • and they're in a crash, craving, hungry state,

  • then do something about that in the morning.

  • Make that healthy choice.

  • And know that the perk is always here.

  • Right, you always have food all around you all the time.

  • Eating to satiety and making those meal choices over snacks

  • is going to serve you in the long run.

  • Back in the '60s, people didn't snack. '50s and '60s,

  • snacking wasn't a thing.

  • You had three meals a day.

  • We had way less disease states in regards to type 2 diabetes.

  • There wasn't insulin resistance.

  • We didn't have metabolic syndrome.

  • We weren't being faced with this.

  • And this is all based on the fact that there's food

  • around us all the time, right, and especially the food that

  • gives off dopamine.

  • Right, if you were to have a brownie or my Flaming Hot

  • Cheetos, or--

  • think about probably what you're being offered here.

  • Not only is that a source of fast blood sugar

  • that's going to hit your brain.

  • But it also releases dopamine like a drug,

  • sometimes as much as eight times as--

  • eight times as strong as cocaine.

  • So to feel like you're not addicted to those type of foods

  • and that you can just make non-emotional food decisions

  • around them is a little silly.

  • You're going to feel those connections.

  • And food is laced in with memories, and emotions,

  • and relationships.

  • So I would say especially here at work,

  • don't make the indulgences, the little mini kitchen,

  • crappy snacks.

  • Right, it's not-- it's not the healthiest decision.

  • So try to make sure that you're fueled up at meal time

  • so that you're not feeling the urge to do that as often.

  • SPEAKER 1: So we live in a really strong fad diet culture.

  • There's advice coming from a million different directions.

  • So how do you approach distilling

  • the right information and finding actual facts that you

  • believe in and want to promote?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Well, there's a lot of really amazing nutrition

  • research.

  • But we're in a state-- we're in a day and age where

  • we have Google, and Google Scholar,

  • and bloggers, and people like Tim Ferriss, or Dave Asprey,

  • or you name it, people who are sharing a lot of information

  • based on studies.

  • And I like to look at these as tools.

  • I don't over analyze them.

  • I think, I say, oh, intermittent fasting, that's

  • pretty interesting.

  • Tell me about that OK, well what is intermittent fasting?

  • It's a limited time of eating.

  • And how can that benefit someone?

  • It can increase insulin sensitivity.

  • It can lower hepatic or liver fat.

  • It can lower belly fat.

  • It can lower cravings.

  • It is really good and healthy, so how can I implement it?

  • I look at it as a tool.

  • And I say, OK, what kind of person am I?

  • Am I the kind of person that can get up in the morning,

  • just have coffee and tea, and not eat until 2:00 PM?

  • I'm not that kind of person.

  • I wouldn't probably be fun to be around.

  • But I also see, OK, that's really interesting.

  • How can I implement that in my life?

  • I'm definitely the kind of person

  • that I'll get up have breakfast, have a lunch,

  • maybe have a light snack at 3 or 4 o'clock and then say,

  • I'm going to skip dinner tonight.

  • But I'm going to eat to feel full and satisfied.

  • So making the choice to not--

  • to have a-- have a bone broth dinner or to skip dinner

  • is a lot easier than white knuckling it for me

  • until 2:00 PM where I can't concentrate and can't focus.

  • So all of these things are tools.

  • And if you understand them on a biological level,

  • like the bullet proof coffee is a great example.

  • Why is that popular?

  • Well, fat like we talked about really is a great--

  • does a great job at releasing a satiety hormone in your body.

  • It also has the less--

  • the least and lowest response of insulin.

  • So say you had to a donut for breakfast.

  • That donut immediately turns to blood sugar.

  • I like to joke around about emojis.

  • I think about the donut emoji floating in my bloodstream.

  • And that's my blood sugar ratcheting up, right.

  • Insulin's the hormone that picks up that sugar

  • and starts to put it away in your body.

  • It will store it in your liver, in your muscles.

  • And if there's no space left, it's storing as fat.

  • And the process of converting it to triglycerides

  • is a little bit inflammatory.

  • And insulin is one of those hormones, a chemical messenger

  • to store fat.

  • So what's so great about bullet proof coffee?

  • Well, it's going to turn off some hunger hormones.

  • Or it's going to release a satiety hormone in your body.

  • And it's not going to release a ton of insulin that's

  • going to make you store fat.

  • It's going to keep your body in that fat burning state.

  • So all of these things are just tools for you guys.

  • And generally if you can just think,

  • I want to generally eat healthy.

  • What do my cells in my body need?

  • Cool.

  • If you want to be paleo, or Keto, or vegan, or vegetarian,

  • that's fine.

  • But you still need to understand blood sugar.

  • I was telling a friend the other day,

  • I don't care if you're a Keto as long as your fat sources are

  • healthy, like clean sources of fat.

  • I don't care if you're vegan or vegetarian

  • as long as you understand your blood sugar

  • and you understand what's releasing--

  • what's turning into blood sugar and how much insulin

  • you're releasing.

  • And I don't care if you're paleo,

  • but let's pick healthy sources of protein.

  • Can you get in touch with a company like Butcher Box

  • to deliver grass-fed protein to your door?

  • Or can you go to a farmer's market

  • and make those healthy choices?

  • Because just because you're bucketing yourself

  • in a lifestyle diet doesn't mean that you're eating clean.

  • So it's more about understanding the biology

  • and then being able to say, oh, I'm Keto today.

  • Or I'm paleo tomorrow, or I'm vegetarians on a Friday.

  • But understanding your blood sugar

  • and understanding the science of that kind of sets you free.

  • And that's honestly what the book was about

  • was teaching people blood sugar so they

  • understood, when I eat something,

  • what's happening in my body.

  • I have that donut.

  • My blood sugar goes up.

  • My blood sugar is going to start crashing at 90 minutes.

  • And all of a sudden I'm going to want a morning snack.

  • I'm going to feel the crash.

  • I'm going to want a bar.

  • I'm going to want an apple.

  • I'm going to want to use caffeine to push myself

  • through to lunch.

  • And I'm going to release a ton of insulin.

  • And it's going to tell my body to start storing fat instead

  • of burning it.

  • And that insulin is going to last for six to eight hours.

  • So from a donut you start the time clock of insulin.

  • And you turn it off six to eight hours later.

  • So I like science, because I don't feel bad

  • when I make a decision to say, yeah, it's my anniversary.

  • And bring me the creme brulee and the glass of wine.

  • But I also know--

  • SPEAKER 1: And that way you're not cheating.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah.

  • SPEAKER 1: Or you're being aware.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: There's no such thing as cheating.

  • It's a choice and knowing, OK, so maybe I'm

  • going to release a lot of insulin.

  • And my blood sugar is going to go up,

  • and it's going to crash down.

  • And tomorrow morning, yeah, I'm probably going to want a bagel.

  • But how do I turn off my hunger hormones and push through that?

  • Maybe I make a chocolate almond butter smoothie.

  • And I feel calm and full and make it to lunch.

  • And then start the healthy train again.

  • SPEAKER 1: So what are two of the biggest mistakes that you

  • see people make eating a lot of the time

  • now in regards to their nutrition or fitness.

  • And what are your tips for avoiding or redirecting

  • from there?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, well I mean, I think everyone--

  • to each their own, right.

  • And we all have a different experience.

  • And there's a lot of bioindividuality.

  • But I will say that the idea that big bowls of acai

  • or big smoothies that are all fruit are healthy is a mistake.

  • There's no way that you would sit down

  • to a banana, an apple, and a pear,

  • and a whole head of Romaine and--

  • and eat all of that in one sitting.

  • And when you talk about the amount of fructose that is

  • and where it's metabolizing.

  • Fructose metabolizes in--

  • 100% in your liver.

  • And it's hard on your body.

  • It gives off free radicals.

  • Which is kind of interesting, because fruits

  • are high in anti-oxidants.

  • So I think that that's so amazing the way nature works

  • that we metabolize fruit.

  • We give off free radicals.

  • They have anti-oxidants to neutralize it.

  • I just think that that's super cool.

  • You just would never sit down to that many.

  • And I see people do it day after day after day after day.

  • And then they're having glasses of wine at night.

  • It's metabolizing in that same liver.

  • We don't need three to five servings of fruit a day.

  • A serving a day I think is great--

  • a great way to get anti-oxidants.

  • But to start your day on that blood sugar roller coaster

  • where half of the fruit is being metabolized to blood sugar

  • where you go up and down.

  • And half the fruit is being 100% metabolized in your liver

  • and giving off free radicals, I would say a serving is probably

  • a good place to start.

  • And then second would be the idea

  • that we need to be working out-- or eating before we work out.

  • There's a really big idea that we

  • should be having a small protein and fat-based snack before we

  • work out or a bar.

  • And people get worked up about it.

  • I have had clients who have always done it.

  • And so it's really scary to think,

  • I'm not going to have a bar before I

  • go to this HIIT training class.

  • And I'm going to feel nauseous, and I'm not

  • going to feel great.

  • But this is your opportunity for your body to kick in.

  • Not only will your liver release some blood sugar

  • so that you can actually get a great workout in.

  • But this is the time where your body will

  • release a hormone called glucagon

  • to bring blood sugar back up.

  • And what glucagon does is it lowers bad cholesterol.

  • It decreases belly fat.

  • It's anti-inflammatory.

  • I mean we just never use it, because we're always

  • eating and then having a snack and eating again.

  • And our blood sugar never gets low.

  • And our body doesn't bring it up naturally.

  • So there's also a really big benefit to working out fasted,

  • especially in the morning.

  • You get a huge surge of human growth hormone and testosterone

  • that does a great job of burning away fat

  • and holding on to lean muscle mass, which

  • is just great for the body.

  • SPEAKER 1: Awesome.

  • So you just published your first book this year,

  • "Body Love," which is awesome.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Thank you.

  • SPEAKER 1: What was your approach to writing the book?

  • And what did you most want it to teach readers?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Well, I do feel like there was a lot of-- there

  • are a lot of people out there that didn't really

  • understand blood sugar.

  • They might have read Atkins or Mediterranean--

  • the Mediterranean diet.

  • Or they might read about balancing their blood

  • sugar in "Health" or "Shape" or whatever magazine.

  • But I don't think that there were--

  • I didn't feel like there was a real understanding of how

  • it worked.

  • And I didn't see anything out there that simplified it enough

  • to say, no, this is exactly what happens when you're only having

  • a piece of toast for breakfast.

  • Your blood sugar goes up.

  • 90 minutes-- we're starting to crash.

  • You feel hungry automatically an hour and a half later.

  • At three hours, you're hitting that low blood sugar state.

  • You're feeling like, yeah, I absolutely

  • have to have a snack now, right.

  • And I just think knowledge is power.

  • And so I tried to simplify it and then give

  • people a really light structure, easy plan to say,

  • I can do this.

  • It isn't about deprivation.

  • It isn't about cutting things out.

  • It's really about enriching my life, adding to my plate,

  • and learning how to elongate those windows between meals.

  • Because a lot of the science is pointing

  • towards less meals being healthier for us

  • in the long run and elongated windows between meals being

  • really good at increasing fat burning and even

  • brain functioning, which is super cool.

  • SPEAKER 1: I've heard you talk a bit about your husband's

  • less healthy eating habits.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, that's real.

  • SPEAKER 1: And I think in this community, too, it surrounds--

  • I mean eating is a big thing here at Google.

  • We go to lunch with people.

  • We grabbed snacks or froyo with our teammates.

  • So how do you like to approach eating with people that you

  • love and making that a communal experience while still staying

  • true to what makes you feel your best?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Sure, so my husband's Instagram

  • is bebadbychris.

  • I'm bewellbykelly.

  • He is trolling me on the internet.

  • He posts pictures of pizza, and ribs, and burgers, and fries.

  • And he pops champagne bottles.

  • We keep it light, because that's real life, right.

  • So in no way do I eat 100% perfectly.

  • And no way am I, when I'm stressed out, feeling

  • like I don't want a brownie.

  • That's a real thing, right.

  • I want dopamine, and I know where to get it.

  • But the thing for me is in the celebration.

  • How often is it happening?

  • How often are you getting froyo with your team?

  • Is it every week?

  • Do we need to be celebrating a team meeting with froyo

  • every week?

  • And so what I tell people is start with the Fab Four.

  • If you go to a party, search out your protein,

  • fat, fiber, veggies.

  • I mean there's got to be a crudite somewhere

  • and some chicken somewhere.

  • And then think about the celebration.

  • And ask yourself who are we celebrating?

  • I mean is it your birthday or your coworkers?

  • Do you know the coworker who's birthday party it is?

  • Ask yourself who you're celebrating.

  • And save your celebrations for you.

  • Celebrate your anniversary.

  • Celebrate your birthday.

  • Celebrate on vacation.

  • I think we're always looking for reasons to celebrate.

  • And now we have all these horrible days

  • like National Brownie Day, National Donut Day.

  • It's Champagne Day.

  • And it's like an insta phenomenon.

  • But what I would say is just try to ask yourself,

  • am I celebrating myself or the people that I truly care about.

  • And if you are, then you need to celebrate, not

  • feel bad about it, and not take guilt forward into the future.

  • And then the second thing would be--

  • would be not only who am I celebrating,

  • but why am I-- why am I celebrating?

  • Or why am I drinking?

  • I think that's a really important thing to think about.

  • Are we drinking to feel comfortable in a networking

  • social situation?

  • Are we drinking with our best friends

  • and opening a bottle of wine to laugh like old times?

  • Because I think it's really different if you're just

  • feeling uncomfortable going into a networking event

  • and grabbing a glass of wine, because you're like,

  • oh, I don't know anyone.

  • Hurry, quick, feel comfortable.

  • And so I always challenge my clients

  • to never drink to feel comfortable.

  • Drink to celebrate.

  • SPEAKER 1: Totally, so we have some time now for the audience

  • to ask a few questions.

  • So you can think about questions you have for Kelly.

  • We can start that off.

  • AUDIENCE: Hi, thank you so much.

  • So my husband also doesn't eat super healthy.

  • And I try to cook healthy for us at night and whatnot.

  • But what do you--

  • I mean you love your husband, and you

  • want him to be around for as long as you're around, right.

  • Do you guys have conversations around how

  • the food that he's eating is impacting his health

  • and his cholesterol maybe?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah.

  • AUDIENCE: My husband has bad acid reflux.

  • And so he's taking Prilosec every day.

  • So what can I do to help him?

  • And then I'm going to pile on a little bit.

  • I chew gum a lot.

  • I wanted to know what you think about that.

  • What is that-- why am I doing that kind of thing

  • from a science perspective?

  • And then I also usually want a piece

  • of chocolate after my lunch.

  • And why am I doing that?

  • [LAUGHTER]

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: So we're going to attack this in three parts.

  • First, your husband.

  • Yes, I think it's always really important

  • to give positive reinforcement.

  • So for Chris, when we first got together,

  • he had chicken and rice.

  • That was his healthy meal.

  • And he had cereal for breakfast, but he

  • would have the whole box.

  • And then it really was up for grabs.

  • I mean we were young when we met in our early 20s.

  • And I mean he came from a frat house

  • to living with a bunch of guys.

  • And he was just eating out.

  • And so my whole thing is we have something

  • called "fat Chris Friday" where he gets

  • to order whatever he wants.

  • And if that means he--

  • and he's an adult. He can make all his own decisions.

  • I don't-- I care, because I want him to be here for the long

  • run, right.

  • And I want him to be healthy.

  • And I want him to feel good in his body.

  • And so yeah, I mean, that means he'll sometimes

  • order a pizza, burger, and fries on a Friday night.

  • That's the truth.

  • But the thing is when he knows he

  • has that, he'll make healthier decisions throughout the week.

  • And I just support him.

  • I make clean dinners.

  • And if he needs to have--

  • and he does this.

  • He'll have a rice cake with peanut butter

  • after if he doesn't feel satisfied by that.

  • Or he'll do-- and note that's a pretty healthy decision, right.

  • But he's on the green smoothie train.

  • So what I started doing when we first

  • moved in together six years ago was I'd make a green smoothie.

  • And I'd put peanut butter in it instead of almond butter,

  • because he likes that better.

  • And then I'd give him his.

  • And he got used to it and really liked the way he felt.

  • And it became something where I'd always

  • compliment him and say, oh my gosh, so much

  • vitamin K, so many phytochemicals.

  • You're just-- this is the most--

  • just lots of positive reinforcement and always

  • supporting the process.

  • And then I mean if it's a Reuben, fries,

  • and for IPAs when I'm not around,

  • or even when I am around, it's his life, right.

  • So I would say definitely support him.

  • Along with the acid reflux stuff,

  • I definitely would search out a functional medicine MD.

  • There's a company that's here in San Francisco

  • called Parsley Health.

  • It's a membership-based, VIP type of medicine company

  • where they're going to do gut bacteria.

  • They'll take cortisol test to see if there's stress.

  • They'll do an acid reflux test.

  • He might have a food allergy that's causing this acid.

  • He might also have a low acid, which

  • is causing an inability for his sphincter to close tightly

  • without having acid reflux.

  • You can also check to see if he has any type of hernia

  • there inside.

  • Second-- the gum thing.

  • So artificial sweeteners-- we taste sweet.

  • And some people's liver--

  • livers will-- or pancreas will overreact and release insulin

  • at just the taste of sweet.

  • So that's kind of interesting, because it's almost like you're

  • giving yourself a taste.

  • But you're never going all the way there with real sugar.

  • Right, my biggest recommendation for people who have a gum issue

  • is to get-- and I have one here.

  • It's an herb pharm.

  • It's an organic herbal spray.

  • And they do peppermint, spearmint, cinnamon.

  • It's a real essential oil.

  • And it's like old school Binaca, but it works great.

  • And you can give it a spray and--

  • to kind of clear your breath and also

  • stop the chewing, because you just don't want

  • to perpetuate sugar cravings.

  • Also fake sugars feed bad bacteria

  • like candida and yeast in your gut, which also,

  • when they overgrow, make you crave more sugar.

  • And we all have a certain amount of yeast--

  • candida and yeast growing in our body at all times.

  • You just never want that to overgrow.

  • Fake sugars like Splenda, aspartame, that all feeds that.

  • And then what was your third question?

  • AUDIENCE: The chocolate after lunch.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Oh, yeah, and so I have a fix for that.

  • It's called freezer fudge.

  • It's in the book.

  • It's a sugar free coconut oil, almond butter,

  • and unsweetened cocoa powder.

  • You blend it.

  • You melt it, blend it together, and put it in ice cube trays.

  • And you pop it.

  • And it's healthy fat, but it tastes like fudge.

  • And it can kill the craving.

  • You can use a little bit among fruit or a little bit of stevia

  • if you really need the sweet.

  • But also a dark piece of chocolate works great.

  • And I would just say, have it right after.

  • Don't wait.

  • Right, because if you wait, and then you just have the sugar,

  • then it becomes a blood sugar thing.

  • But if we have it together, we can actually

  • keep the fat and the protein.

  • And the mixed macronutrients of our meal

  • will help that elongated curve.

  • And that's a habit thing.

  • SPEAKER 1: The same thing with stevia.

  • Can stevia also make your--

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Unfortunately, yeah.

  • It's the newest-- the newest studies are showing that

  • we're getting--

  • we're not having the blood sugar response.

  • But we're getting the insulin response,

  • which is a bit of a bummer.

  • Because we can't have our cake and eat it too anymore.

  • Yeah, yes.

  • AUDIENCE: And since I'm the mic [? gal, ?] I'm

  • going to piggyback.

  • What percentage of-- or if it's dark chocolate,

  • do you have a percentage of cacao?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: I just go 70 up, yeah.

  • AUDIENCE: Hi, so you actually just

  • touched on what I wanted to ask about,

  • about having the dark chocolate or chocolate with--

  • close to the meal.

  • So I understand what sugar in the form of whatever it takes

  • does to your insulin.

  • I understand that fat helps turn off the hunger hormones

  • and provides a lot of satiety.

  • But I'm less sure about--

  • I hear a lot of if you're going to have a piece of white bread,

  • have it with fat and with protein.

  • And the overall insulin spike in your blood is not as high.

  • Is that true if I really can't give up a carb, which

  • I can't right now, in a meal?

  • Does having more of the good healthy fat,

  • like if I have toast with avocado on it,

  • does that actually really help my insulin spike, and how much?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, well, I'd have to--

  • we'd have to prick you and test you to find out how it really

  • works in your body, because everyone's a little bit

  • different.

  • And people's blood sugar response

  • also has a lot to do with their gut bacteria.

  • Because if you think about it, you

  • have this tube that runs through your human body.

  • And you have this layer of bacteria.

  • And if you don't have antibiotics,

  • take medications, and you have--

  • you eat fairly clean.

  • And that fiber and greens keeps that ecosystem growing.

  • Then they ferment a lot of the carbohydrates that we eat

  • and sugar, which can lower your blood sugar response.

  • So what I would say is yes, absolutely.

  • Try to choose whole grains, or maybe a sweet potato,

  • or a squash, or something like that.

  • And yeah, I would absolutely have it with the meal.

  • Keep it in a serving size.

  • A great rule of thumb is net 30 grams of carbohydrates.

  • So a lot of times if you look at the total carbohydrates

  • and the fiber, subtract the fiber from the total and that

  • will give you net.

  • So that would be, for example, a half a cup of quinoa.

  • A lot of times when I sit down with people,

  • they go to these places.

  • And I think you guys have one here

  • in San Francisco where you can literally not talk to a human.

  • And a quinoa bowl pops out of a microwave type of a box.

  • But that's two cups of--

  • two full cups of quinoa, which is

  • close to 100 grams of carbohydrates.

  • And there's only so much space in your body

  • to store that as fuel.

  • And when we store it as fuel, it's

  • like a little goes in our liver.

  • The rest goes in our muscles.

  • If there's no space left, your body

  • still has to bring that blood sugar down.

  • It's not just going to hang out high for very long.

  • So I would say yes to a starch.

  • I would try to maybe look at each meal of the day and say,

  • is there one meal where I cannot have a carbohydrate.

  • AUDIENCE: I was just about to ask, sorry, as a follow up,

  • if there were-- is it really better

  • to not have it with dinner versus lunch?

  • I mean I understand you're less active after dinner.

  • But I can run after dinner if it means I could

  • have a starch with dinner.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah.

  • AUDIENCE: Because I want it more with dinner

  • than I want with breakfast or lunch, but like--

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: I like bookending it.

  • So yeah, I would like for someone to either--

  • which is why I created the fruit free smoothie in my book.

  • It has protein.

  • It has fat.

  • It has fiber like chia flax.

  • It has a handful of greens.

  • It can be flavored like matcha.

  • It could be flavored like chocolate almond butter.

  • It doesn't have to-- it could be savory,

  • sweet, filling, thick, not like a thin juice.

  • Right, so you can skip that fruit spike in the morning.

  • And then I just tell my clients when

  • I meet with them one on one, can you

  • pick between lunch and dinner?

  • If you're more emotional at dinner,

  • and you can get away with making a big salad at your cafeteria

  • here, loading it up with veggies, adding avocado,

  • getting a good healthy fat on there, and you're like,

  • I can make it to dinner, great, you

  • should do that and not worry about

  • if one way or another is a little bit better.

  • What I would say if you're a big starch night person,

  • I would say, let's try to move dinner back.

  • Don't be the European 11:00 PM dinner person.

  • Can we pull dinner back?

  • Can we can we have dinner at 6 or 7 o'clock at night.

  • And if that's not feasible, maybe two nights

  • a week, you commit to having dinner at 5:00 or 6:00.

  • Then all of a sudden you're getting the benefits of what

  • would be an intermittent fast.

  • And you're letting your body deal

  • with the sugar consequence, no problem.

  • We work around.

  • AUDIENCE: OK, I like have kind of two questions.

  • So fasting, I was always under the impression it can slow down

  • your metabolism.

  • So I wanted to hear your thoughts about that.

  • And then also, I always wake up hungry.

  • Someone could feed me in bed.

  • That's how hungry I am when I wake up.

  • And so I'm wondering if that's a problem

  • or if it has anything to do with metabolism, too.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: No, OK, so first things first on fasting.

  • So there's a guy named Brad Pilon.

  • And he tried to do his thesis on--

  • his book is called "Eat, Stop, Eat."

  • He tried to do his thesis proving that fasting

  • killed your metabolism.

  • And he proved the opposite.

  • It actually increases your metabolism.

  • At 24 hours worth of fasting, your body

  • releases human growth hormone and testosterone, which

  • holds on to lean muscle mass.

  • And lean muscle mass is your metabolism.

  • You start to oxidize fat in your mitochondria

  • instead, which is super awesome, right.

  • But what happens when we are lowering our metabolism

  • is when people become at a calorie deficit.

  • If you decide that you--

  • your metabolic burn is, let's say, 1,800 or 1,500 calories

  • a day, and you go, oh, I want to lose all this weight.

  • I'm going to try and eat 900 or 1,000 calories a day,

  • which is crazy.

  • You should never do that.

  • Your body will eventually catch up and lower your metabolism.

  • Some things can happen like the lowering

  • of like your heart rate.

  • Your organ functioning goes down.

  • Your brain functioning goes down.

  • And that's your body going, oh, this is all we're getting.

  • So we're going to respond.

  • And the cool part about fasting is

  • you can eat the same amount of calories

  • and fuel yourself the same way in a smaller feeding

  • window, which is why intermittent fasting is

  • becoming so popular.

  • And then your second question was about eating in the morning

  • and being starving.

  • AUDIENCE: I always wake up hungry [INAUDIBLE] breakfast

  • immediately.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Cool, I think it probably has

  • to do with a number of things.

  • If you were a kid whose mom got you up and was like,

  • time for breakfast, and that's been a habit for you

  • for a long time, it's probably the case.

  • And honestly, if you have growling or you

  • feel sour stomach, and you're like,

  • yes, I want to eat something right away, the studies, I mean

  • granted they're a little bit older,

  • but they all show that breakfast eaters weigh less overall,

  • have less food anxiety, and have less scale change

  • than non-breakfast eaters.

  • So even though intermittent fasting and Bulletproof coffees

  • and all of these things are really popular right now,

  • I would say you got to stick with what works for you.

  • And if you're looking to tighten up

  • in any way, which you have a totally adorable frame, so you

  • don't need to do that, or push yourself,

  • I wouldn't start with breakfast for you.

  • I would say, can I do a fasted workout in the afternoon?

  • Or can I put a workout in the morning?

  • Or can I eat dinner earlier?

  • Or hey, let me switch out my rice for cauliflower rice.

  • Little things like that can make a bigger difference for someone

  • like you than trying to jump on a fad,

  • if it's not working for you personally, yeah.

  • Yeah.

  • AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE]

  • AUDIENCE: I just wanted to get your thoughts on multi-vitamins

  • or collagen powder and whether that's something

  • that you recommend.

  • And if so, which ones?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, I do really like collagen. Primal Kitchen

  • Collagen Fuel is great.

  • Vital Proteins is great.

  • Collagen was not popular for a long time,

  • because it's only a few amino acids versus something

  • like grass-fed whey or pea protein,

  • or even now the beef powder proteins like the paleo

  • proteins.

  • Because what we used to think is,

  • oh well, I need all the amino acids.

  • If collagen is only four or--

  • so-- and these other ones have 12 or 13.

  • They must be better.

  • Well, if you're eating protein at lunch and dinner

  • or have other sources of protein in your life,

  • collagen is a great source of protein.

  • Because not only are you getting the amino acids that your body

  • needs to synthesize protein, but there was an animal study that

  • showed that actually we don't-- what we used to think is that

  • you would digest and dissolve all of that collagen into its

  • individual amino acids.

  • But now we know that a certain percentage of those collagen

  • strands are being absorbed in their whole form, at least

  • in animal studies.

  • So it doesn't correlate to human studies.

  • But it is pretty cool that as we age,

  • we synthesize less collagen. So giving your body the inputs

  • to make it is great.

  • And then when it comes to multi-vitamins,

  • I would just be particular about the type of multi-vitamins.

  • All of the percentages on the side of those that say

  • recommended daily value are based on really old research.

  • So there's a company called Ritual which just came out

  • with a women's multi-vitamin.

  • And they took the studies and brought them up to date

  • and increased the dosages for current deficiencies in women.

  • But there are certain brands like Thorne and orthomolecular

  • products and certain multi-vitamins

  • that I think are good.

  • I think if you really wanted to know

  • if you needed to take a multivitamin,

  • you could do a vitamin testing with a type of functional MD.

  • But I always say my base is to get someone a multi-vitamin.

  • I think it's a good-- because I've had clients with a B12

  • deficiency or B6 deficiency.

  • And they're not hitting goals, and they don't know why.

  • And they're trying so hard.

  • And then we find out, oh, you have a vitamin D deficiency.

  • Or you're an inflammatory-- you have a high omega 6

  • content and low omega 3 serum content.

  • So the Ritual has the omega 3, the Ds--

  • the D, the Bs.

  • And I think it's another fun tech company that's

  • like $30 a month.

  • And they tell you everywhere they source their product.

  • The problem becomes when we walk into CVS

  • and just grab one off the shelf.

  • And it's not the bioavailable form.

  • Or It's kind of a me too product, too, with supplements.

  • People-- I could go out and make a supplement tomorrow.

  • I could call a company and say, I

  • want you to slap my name on the side of this bottle.

  • But for me it's like, I'm going to let the people who

  • are professional at doing this like a Ritual or a Thorne

  • or one of those do it, because they've proven themselves.

  • So I would say yes to collagen, yes to multi-vitamin.

  • My favorite things in multi-vitamins

  • would be B vitamins, omega 3, vitamin D.

  • And then on top of that if you have a sleep issue or digestion

  • issue, magnesium at night and a probiotic.

  • Those would probably be my--

  • I'm pretty minimal.

  • And if I can get it in one form, I'm like, that's perfect.

  • I could take two pills in the morning.

  • SPEAKER 1: OK, I think we could do one more question.

  • AUDIENCE: Thank you.

  • I just wanted to ask you about the connection between

  • [INAUDIBLE] and quality of sleep and those false cravings that

  • we have--

  • food craving.

  • And it seems like if you don't have enough sleep--

  • have more craving and vise versa.

  • So what's your thoughts about that?

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, you're absolutely right.

  • That feeling of wanting more food and specifically

  • carbohydrates is very real.

  • You have an increase in hunger hormones with lack of sleep.

  • I mean if you've ever had a really great night's

  • sleep, like eight hours, and it may be as a Friday,

  • and you wake up Saturday, and you don't feel as hungry

  • and can easily get away with smaller meals,

  • That's a real thing.

  • So there's an increase--

  • a decrease in the sensitivity of leptin with poor sleep, which

  • is a hormone that comes from fat cells that tells

  • your body that you're full.

  • And insulin sensitivity is decreased.

  • So we have a little bit of an issue putting blood sugar away,

  • which also makes us more hungry.

  • So yeah, I mean that's--

  • sleep is one of those things if I have goals for a client,

  • whether it be a movie role or red carpet, a wedding,

  • you name it.

  • If I have a timeline person, sleep

  • is one of the number one things we work on.

  • Because again-- really derail our progress, absolutely.

  • SPEAKER 1: Well, thank you so much.

  • KELLY LEVEQUE: Yeah, my pleasure.

  • SPEAKER 1: Yeah, Kelly will be here for a few minutes

  • if anyone wants to pop up, get a book signed, say hi.

  • But thank you so much.

  • Loved hearing from you, I hope everyone else did, too.

  • [APPLAUSE]

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